Anyone else using Exact Audio Copy to burn CDs onto a hard drive?

[bumpy]

If so can you explain why mine takes about 1 hour per CD?

[montesquieu]

If so can you explain why mine takes about 1 hour per CD?

Are you transcoding into something that requires significant number crunching? That can take time depending how powerful your computer is.

Worth checking your settings.

Got the latest version?

[bumpy]

Are you transcoding into something that requires significant number crunching? That can take time depending how powerful your computer is.

Worth checking your settings.

Got the latest version?

Thanks Tom. I have just downloaded the latest version of EAC and am burning as WAV files. What would be a typical time to burn an entire CD, and what settings should I check?

[montesquieu]

That's very strange, WAV files are pretty close to what's on the CD originally same bit rate and resolution so shouldn't take long to rip at all. On my Mac I'd expect to do it in 5 minutes and I'd expect a PC to do the same.

Are you close to using all your disk space on the PC? Or have limited RAM available - the latter can be helped if you shut eveything else down and reboot, just open the CD software.

Setting really ... just check you aren't upsampling to some higher resolution or bit rate, or applying some really high compression rate. Is the CD drive internal or external?

[The Black Adder]

As far as I remember it can depend on if the CD is scratched and if you are using a high level of accuracy.

It will re-check on errors which can take ages.

Did you calibrate your drive in eac?

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[bumpy]

As far as I remember it can depend on if the CD is scratched and if you are using a high level of accuracy.

It will re-check on errors which can take ages.

Did you calibrate your drive in eac?

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I haven't calibrated my drive and its the same on new or old discs. The drive is internal, but I will check the speed with just the burner running. I never had this problem on my older computer (5-10 minutes for full CD) and it was lower spec than my current one :(

[Edward]

Try a different ripping tool (e.g. cueripper within cuetools, or dbpoweramp) and if that works fine then EAC is at fault (reinstall it?), if still slow then your cd drive has a fault.

dbpoweramp has a 'burst' mode which bypasses error checking.

[struth]

Sounds like the drive is struggling and ripping very slow. I have a internal that does this, especially if it gets hot

I also find eac to be touchy with drives and some os.

Try a decent external one if you can.
Or trial jriver

[bumpy]

Sounds like the drive is struggling and ripping very slow. I have a internal that does this, especially if it gets hot

I also find eac to be touchy with drives and some os.

Try a decent external one if you can.
Or trial jriver

Bit of a novice at this sort of thing. Can one buy a USB external burner which is plug and play?

[struth]

Bit of a novice at this sort of thing. Can one buy a USB external burner which is plug and play?Most are plug n play these days.
Try amazon or ebay. But first thing is to get a free trial on say jriver. Not costs involved. Think you get a month. It does everything and is well worth the price.

[Alex_UK]

It certainly doesn't sound right. Try different software, but if you need an external drive try one of these - I've bought dozens of them for work (as PCs these days have no drives) and had no problems for a tenner - albeit never used one to rip to FLAC. https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00SWRBADE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[Lawrence001]

Same thing happened to me. I rebuilt my laptop as it was generally slow and reinstalled EAC, also changed the settings to reduce the checks/accuracy of the rip. It then took about 8 minutes. I suspect most of that improvement was from the settings in EAC, have a look in options (or advanced options, and you might need to change from simple user to advanced or whatever it's called IIRC) and reduce error correction etc. If your CDs are clean and not scratched it won't make any difference to the SQ.

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[Kit1cat]

I found Foobar 2000 very good for ripping cd’s, a lot quicker then EAC and also free.

[NRG]

As above use foobar or even iTunes.

[Sherwood]

As far as I remember it can depend on if the CD is scratched and if you are using a high level of accuracy.

It will re-check on errors which can take ages.

Did you calibrate your drive in eac?

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+1

EAC will rescan until it gets a "perfect" read. I only use it when I am trying to rip a very dodgy CD

[Stratmangler]

I haven't calibrated my drive and its the same on new or old discs. The drive is internal, but I will check the speed with just the burner running. I never had this problem on my older computer (5-10 minutes for full CD) and it was lower spec than my current one :(

The drive needs auto calibrate.
Click on EAC button at the top left of page, and click on drive options.
Move around the tabs, and in one of them you'll find a detect button.
Click on that, and let it do its thing - you will need a CD in the drive before you click it.

Be patient, as it can take a while.

[Gazjam]

Not all disc rippers are created equal, be careful.
For the most “accurate” rip (some may not care or even notice, which of course is ok) from experience I’d use either EAC or DBPoweramp, the latter being my preference.

Ripping speed can depend on your drive and computer grunt, but the two I mentioned above give the most accurate rip imo.
Aside the most accurate ripping tools DbPoweramp also does a data bit check on each track it rips, and compares your rip to it’s database of other users rips of that same CD.
So know your rip is accurate.

Free full functional 30 day trial available, downgrades to free version after that, where you lose the most accurate ripping settings.
Not expensive for full version, worth it if you rip a lot of CDs

[Sherwood]

Not all disc rippers are created equal, be careful.
For the most “accurate” rip (some may not care or even notice, which of course is ok) from experience I’d use either EAC or DBPoweramp, the latter being my preference.

Ripping speed can depend on your drive and computer grunt, but the two I mentioned above give the most accurate rip imo.
Aside the most accurate ripping tools DbPoweramp also does a data bit check on each track it rips, and compares your rip to it’s database of other users rips of that same CD.
So know your rip is accurate.

Free full functional 30 day trial available, downgrades to free version after that, where you lose the most accurate ripping settings.
Not expensive for full version, worth it if you rip a lot of CDs

My preference is also for DbPoweramp. You can fine tune the "accuracy" of the ripping. I only resort to EAC when DbPoweramp can't rip without errors. Well worth purchasing a license.

[bumpy]

After trying all sorts of solutions without success I remembered I had an old DELL Inspiron laptop which was destined for the knackers yard many years ago. So I loaded the EAC software and Accuripped a full album in 5 minutes. Way to go :)

[struth]

After trying all sorts of solutions without success I remembered I had an old DELL Inspiron laptop which was destined for the knackers yard many years ago. So I loaded the EAC software and Accuripped a full album in 5 minutes. Way to go :)

interestingly i used to use it on a xp and vista laptop but on won 8 or 10 it never worked right for me or was basically unusable. not sure if it worked on win 7

[bumpy]

interestingly i used to use it on a xp and vista laptop but on won 8 or 10 it never worked right for me or was basically unusable. not sure if it worked on win 7

Mine is running Windows Vista, and goes like a steam train :champagne:

[montesquieu]

There's a lot of bloatware that comes with newer PCs now - I was shocked at how much when I was setting up my wife's fancy touch screen Lenovo she uses for work, all sorts of games, pointless utilities, trial applications and so on, much of it set to load into memory on start-up. It took an hour or more to get rid of it all. I suspect though that some people would be reluctant to delete this junk as it 'comes with the machine'. That could be part of your problem with the original PC or laptop. That and the fact that the program itself needs updating to run properly on modern operating system versions.

https://www.computerworld.com/article/2966113/bloatware-what-it-is-and-how-to-get-rid-of-it.html

[bumpy]

There's a lot of bloatware that comes with newer PCs now - I was shocked at how much when I was setting up my wife's fancy touch screen Lenovo she uses for work, all sorts of games, pointless utilities, trial applications and so on, much of it set to load into memory on start-up. It took an hour or more to get rid of it all. I suspect though that some people would be reluctant to delete this junk as it 'comes with the machine'. That could be part of your problem with the original PC or laptop. That and the fact that the program itself needs updating to run properly on modern operating system versions.

https://www.computerworld.com/article/2966113/bloatware-what-it-is-and-how-to-get-rid-of-it.html

Thanks Tom for the info. That makes good sense as the old laptop was wiped of all stuff ready for dumping. It wont even go on the Internet, which means I lose some of the labelling bits of EAC, but I don't care.

[Stratmangler]

Thanks Tom for the info. That makes good sense as the old laptop was wiped of all stuff ready for dumping. It wont even go on the Internet, which means I lose some of the labelling bits of EAC, but I don't care.

I take it you're entering track details manually, before ripping?

[bumpy]

I take it you're entering track details manually, before ripping?

Can live without it. I just use the CD jewel case or I cant be bothered to even move then I use Shazam :)
Not a lot different to reading a vinyl album cover.

[Edward]

Chris, why can't the old machine go on the internet? Have you tried connecting the machine to your router with an ethernet cable? I find even with ancient machines, so long as it boots, connecting to the internet with ethernet always works.

EAC has an excellent hit rate for finding correct metadata. And if you want to find metadata for rips you have already done use mp3tag.

[Stratmangler]

Can live without it. I just use the CD jewel case or I cant be bothered to even move then I use Shazam :)
Not a lot different to reading a vinyl album cover.

If you're sure it's the way to go .......

[Stratmangler]

Chris, why can't the old machine go on the internet? Have you tried connecting the machine to your router with an ethernet cable? I find even with ancient machines, so long as it boots, connecting to the internet with ethernet always works.

EAC has an excellent hit rate for finding correct metadata. And if you want to find metadata for rips you have already done use mp3tag.

He's ripping to WAV - metadata not supported.
That said, at least the files would be correctly named...

[Edward]

He's ripping to WAV - metadata not supported.
That said, at least the files would be correctly named...

Well that certainly has been true for most of the time tagging was implemented Chris. However since recently (2016?) tagging in wav files in a standardised way has been implemented by most audio software. ID3v2 tags are now (can be) added to an extra chunk at the end of the wav file. MP3tag, JRiver, Microsoft to name but three software packages implement embedded wav tagging.

[Stratmangler]

Thanks Edward.
Last time I looked (and I'm fairly sure it was within the last couple of years, although it could easily have been longer) it wasn't supported.
I've just done some WAV ripping using dBPoweramp, and I can read tags using Mp3Tag.

[Edward]

Thanks Edward.
Last time I looked (and I'm fairly sure it was within the last couple of years, although it could easily have been longer) it wasn't supported.
I've just done some WAV ripping using dBPoweramp, and I can read tags using Mp3Tag.

Cool huh!

Pity that EAC has not been updated since about 2015 and hence does not include this functionality. But it is real easy to run MP3tag over ripped wav files especially if artist and album details are present.

In the past I did extensive testing between flac and wav (and alac a bit) and honestly did not determine much difference (if at all) between them in terms of sq. Some people do.

JRiver has a neat feature whereby you can take a lossless file (e.g. wav) and it will downsample a snippet to various different resolutions and then will play them back 'blind'. The user then selects what s/he thinks it is and a score is given at the end. An interesting excursion into self embarrassment. :lol:

[Stratmangler]

I can't hear a difference between the WAV files I just ripped and the FLAC compressed ones.
I'm going to stick with FLAC.
It makes for more efficient transmission over the network, and the storage requirement is less.

I have used the blind testing plugin in Foobar a few times, and it's brought some interesting results :eyebrows:

[PaulBarnett]

Just for completeness....

I use either 'asunder' or 'sound juicer' to rip CDs (running in linux) to flac files. They both get the meta-data over the network, but asunder sometimes finds the data when sound juicer dosn't.

I hear no difference in sound quality.

[struth]

Ive noticed since last update of JRiver25, it is now using a secure rip system similar to EAC. much slower and comes up with a dialogue re how it ripped each track etc.
Ive not found any info re this but thought i'd mention it. Thought my drive was faulty at first it was ripping so slow in comparision lol

[Yomanze]

I can't hear a difference between the WAV files I just ripped and the FLAC compressed ones.
I'm going to stick with FLAC.
It makes for more efficient transmission over the network, and the storage requirement is less.

I have used the blind testing plugin in Foobar a few times, and it's brought some interesting results :eyebrows:

Yup, I ABX tested FLAC and WAV using some STAX electrostatic ‘phones. Zero difference, and man I did try to find some. Also tested FLAC vs “LAME Insane” 320kbps CBR and did notice a very small, but worthwhile difference: a touch more air and space with FLAC.