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Firebottle
17-07-2019, 07:39
Very recently took delivery of a single ended pentode Class A, a Ming Da Piccolo Mk2.
It is an integrated amp with selector and remote control volume, KT90 output operating in ultralinear.
http://i66.tinypic.com/f0cmmw.jpg
It has already been upgraded with Audyn coupling capacitors by Mark at Ming Da UK and sounds very good.
http://i67.tinypic.com/281wnk9.jpg
However it now sounds spectacular after fitting direct input sockets and completely bypassing the cheap volume control.
I am extremely pleased with the performance into my Quad ESL57's, it's a great match.
walpurgis
17-07-2019, 07:46
Looks nice. I like Ming Da (Meixing) gear.
Bigman80
17-07-2019, 08:47
Just uploaded my thoughts on this on my BigBlog lol.
The Black Adder
17-07-2019, 09:03
Looks like a fabulous amp, Alan.
What valves does it use?
Nice one Alan, your hunch for these little Chinese amps has paid off with a few adjustments!:)
I heard one of these at Mark's and they are very nice.
However it now sounds spectacular after fitting direct input sockets and completely bypassing the cheap volume control.
I am extremely pleased with the performance into my Quad ESL57's, it's a great match.
Does that mean you are effectively using it as a power amp? If so what are you using as the pre-amp or do you just have a single source with variable input?
scotty38
17-07-2019, 11:00
Just uploaded my thoughts on this on my BigBlog lol.
I have a Ming Da Cadenza so would be interested to read your thoughts... Where can I find this?
Scrub that, I found it :-)
scotty38
17-07-2019, 11:02
I heard one of these at Mark's and they are very nice.
Does that mean you are effectively using it as a power amp? If so what are you using as the pre-amp or do you just have a single source with variable input?
I understand that Mark offers this as an option to some of the integrated amps. As it happens I am using a passive pre as a switchbox to feed the amp and a separate headphone amplifier but had assumed the pre-amp option was bypassing more than just the volume pot. Does this mean that in effect the integrateds have a passive pre anyway?
Firebottle
17-07-2019, 13:52
Yes it's now being used as a power amp.
As built it has 3 sets of inputs running to a selector switch, then to an inferior volume control, then to the input stage grid.
I have fitted a relay to isolate the inputs and volume control, with additional sockets feeding the input stage directly.
It is surprising how much a conventional volume control strangles the performance, I and others have moved on to quality stepped attenuators, either Khozmo or Acoustic Dimension. These let the music through, the pre I am using is my active KIN which now sports an Acoustic Dimension attenuator.
It's a shame that Ming Da don't fit a quality attenuator as the performance cries out for it.
Firebottle
17-07-2019, 13:53
Looks like a fabulous amp, Alan.
What valves does it use?
KT90 output, 5Z3P rectifier and ECC82 driver/input.
Firebottle
17-07-2019, 13:54
Nice one Alan, your hunch for these little Chinese amps has paid off with a few adjustments!:)
It's not actually so little James, I think it weighs 22 kg.
It has quality iron on it which gives the great performance.
Hi Alan
That looks like a really nice peice of kit
Keeper ???
hifinutt
19-07-2019, 18:13
Heard marks stuff at shows and always good , seen a bit about the piccolo and glad it is sounding good . look forward to hearing it one day
Malvern Audio Research
20-07-2019, 18:57
Yes it's now being used as a power amp.
As built it has 3 sets of inputs running to a selector switch, then to an inferior volume control, then to the input stage grid.
I have fitted a relay to isolate the inputs and volume control, with additional sockets feeding the input stage directly.
It is surprising how much a conventional volume control strangles the performance, I and others have moved on to quality stepped attenuators, either Khozmo or Acoustic Dimension. These let the music through, the pre I am using is my active KIN which now sports an Acoustic Dimension attenuator.
It's a shame that Ming Da don't fit a quality attenuator as the performance cries out for it.
As a note, I agree with Alan, The pot is slightly inferior!
Sadly not everyone will pay for something better, they want easy remote etc. But Like Alan, I do offer an upgrade with a stepped pot, using little Dale resistors, but I agree relay and direct input to the grid is favourite!
Great Amps to "Pimp":):)
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