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Ninanina
11-06-2019, 20:25
So a new thread...

What three things are important to you?

Don't include your health or friends & family or having enough money to pay your bills or hifi as I think those are all a given...

After the obvious things my three things are:

1) Having fun
2) Own transport
3) Contact lenses

stairpost
11-06-2019, 20:38
1) My little bunny girls
2) Good manners
3) Art/Creativity

Joe
11-06-2019, 21:05
Access to good library/libraries

Proximity of open spaces

The ability to laugh at myself

Ninanina
11-06-2019, 21:09
1) My little bunny girls
2) Good manners
3) Art/Creativity

Little bunny girls... tell us more Rich....

stairpost
11-06-2019, 21:18
Little bunny girls... tell us more Rich....

Ossie & Goldberg, in my avatar. The most gorgeous little furry bundles ever.

Not whatever it was that was going through that mind of yours :)

Ninanina
11-06-2019, 21:22
Not whatever it was that was going through that mind of yours :)

:rfl:

Absolutely things were certainly going through my mind Rich... however those furry bundles do look lovely

Primalsea
11-06-2019, 21:25
1) learning new things - I’ve always made an effort to teach myself new things - Electronics, photography, guitar...
2) being proactive about my fitness - at 40 I got fed up of over 10 years of daily back pain and chose to do something about it. Nowadays I can spend an hour kickboxing and another hour grappling (Brazilian Jujitsu) and have no back pain at all.
3) being able to shower when I want - I have 2 teenage daughters who seem to just take forever in the shower.

Alex_UK
11-06-2019, 21:28
Brilliant question Bev, and very tough... Not necessarily in the right order...

1. Being a “gear head” - love to be involved with anything that has an engine, especially if it is being used as it was intended

2. Principles - I respect (and expect) honesty & integrity in the world though often disappointed!

3. Nature - this planet and everything on it is magical - though unexplainable in equal measure. Fascinating.

I think I need more than 3!


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Ninanina
11-06-2019, 21:31
I know it's so tricky to keep to just 3 things... I could have mentioned so much more but keeping to just 3 focuses the mind I reckon

southall-1998_mk2
11-06-2019, 21:58
1. Good mental health
2. Money
3. Hobby/Hi-Fi

S.

Ninanina
11-06-2019, 22:00
1. Good mental health
2. Money
3. Hobby/Hi-Fi

S.

Shane I did say not to mention health, money or hifi...

southall-1998_mk2
11-06-2019, 22:10
Well sorry about that. Nothing else is important to me. I'll grab my coat.

S.

Ninanina
11-06-2019, 22:18
Don't be sorry Shane....

southall-1998_mk2
11-06-2019, 22:21
Don't be sorry Shane....

Was just being mildly sarcastic, Bev. ;)

S.

Ninanina
11-06-2019, 23:45
Okay doky Shane

Ian7633
11-06-2019, 23:56
Chocolate biscuits...….actually chocolate in general
The ability to laugh at myself, I try to get in before anyone else
Swearing, so expressive at the right moment

Ninanina
12-06-2019, 01:41
Funny but I’m not that ‘into’ chocolate. I prefer savoury things

Minstrel SE
12-06-2019, 04:13
1) A clear horizon with no stress. (as much freedom from petty rules and people)
2) My free time to do nothing in particular = bliss
3) The wisdom and serenity to know whats really important in life

Oh and my 12" Harley Quinn figure on its way from China :)

antonio
12-06-2019, 07:17
Sense of humour.
To still be able to pick out the winners at the up and coming Royal Ascot.
Able to enjoy sex.

stairpost
12-06-2019, 13:18
I couldn't get by in life without

1) My memory
3) My numeracy skills
c) My attention to detail

Andy831
12-06-2019, 14:15
1. My Dog

2. My Car

3. My Garden

None of which are especially good or different but all are very important to me.

hifinutt
12-06-2019, 20:16
A] being able to look after people`s spiritual and housing needs
2] The state of the nhs
3] Winegums !

Ninanina
14-06-2019, 22:51
Maybe we should also have 3 things that are the least important to you?

Joe
15-06-2019, 09:31
Maybe we should also have 3 things that are the least important to you?

TV soaps

'Reality' TV

Slebs

Marco
15-06-2019, 09:44
Taking also the love of your pets as a given, and ignoring material possessions... I'm most in tune with Martin (Minstrel) so far. For me, mental and spiritual well-being: having a 'happy head', as it were, is vital, so these are my three 'biggies':

1) Happiness and feeling a genuine sense of fulfilment and contentment with life. Waking up every morning with a smile on my face, looking forward to the day ahead, facing no real worries or stress. [Tick]

2) TIME to do what I want, when I want, on my own or with those I care for, and divorcing myself (as far as possible) from the most odious influences of today's world - and just enjoying LIVING, rather than merely existing. And experiencing a genuine sense of FREEDOM. [Tick]

3) Being in CONTROL, as far as possible (God allowing), not of the people I know or live with, but of MY FUTURE, based on making MY DECISIONS, standing or falling on them, rather than being controlled by the decisions of others. [Tick]

If I could squeeze one more in there, I'd be loving NATURE: appreciating the wonder and majesty of the trees and the flowers and the sky that surround us, and all of God's creatures and creations: the very things that allow our (now crying) earth to BREATHE.....

How many of us these days, when out walking wherever we are, ever take the time to look around, AND UP, rather than simply straight ahead or down, and appreciate the above [or worse are glued to our bloody mobile phones], while we're constantly chasing our tails and running around like headless chickens, weighed down by the burdens and pressures of modern life...?

Marco.

stairpost
15-06-2019, 10:03
TV soaps

'Reality' TV

Slebs

I'd replace TV soaps with social media and be in complete agreement on the other two.

Marco
15-06-2019, 10:09
Isn't this place a form of social media?;)

But I get your point and agree... If all the servers controlling the platforms of Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat [and all similar pish] crashed and burned tomorrow, with no hope of recovery, I wouldn't bat an eyelid!!

Marco.

RobbieGong
15-06-2019, 10:48
Taking also the love of your pets as a given, and ignoring material possessions... I'm most in tune with Martin (Minstrel) so far. For me, mental and spiritual well-being: having a 'happy head', as it were, is vital, so these are my three 'biggies':

1) Happiness and feeling a genuine sense of fulfilment and contentment with life. Waking up every morning with a smile on my face, looking forward to the day ahead, facing no real worries or stress.

2) TIME to do what I want, when I want, on my own or with those I care for, and divorcing myself (as much as possible) from the most odious influences of today's society - and just enjoying LIVING, rather than merely existing.

3) Being in CONTROL, as far as possible (God allowing), not of the people I know or live with, but of MY FUTURE, based on making MY DECISIONS, standing or falling on them, rather than being controlled by the decisions of others.

If I could squeeze one more in there, I'd be loving NATURE: appreciating the wonder and majesty of the trees and the flowers and the sky that surround us, and all of God's creatures: the very things that allow our (now crying) earth to BREATHE.....

How many of us these days even take the time to look around, AND UP, rather than simply straight ahead or down, and appreciate the above, while we're constantly chasing our tails and running around like headless chickens, weighed down by the burdens and pressures of modern life...?

Marco.

Can only agree as these strike a cord with me being aspects of my life that are fundamentally my hopes and aspirations towards my own personal fulfillment.

And yes, I spend a lot of my life waiting on others in one way or the other.

It feels as if my wants and needs are either out of my hands or remain on the back bench which leaves me often sad and frustrated - not in control and something I have to change somehow, not easy.

Marco
15-06-2019, 11:14
Can only agree as these strike a cord with me being aspects of my life that are fundamentally my hopes and aspirations towards my own personal fulfillment.

And yes, I spend a lot of my life waiting on others in one way or the other.

It feels as if my wants and needs are either out of my hands or remain on the back bench which leaves me often sad and frustrated - not in control and something I have to change somehow, not easy.

Yes Rob, but you have kids, which adds a totally different dimension to your life, and so if you're a good parent, which I know you are, your priorities and time revolve around doing what's best for *them*, not you, which makes achieving some of what I've outlined above rather difficult.

However, it's about embracing the essence of those concepts and, as Martin (Minstrel says), having, I quote: "the wisdom and serenity to know whats really important in life" [clue: not money or material possessions], and not taking your eye off that ball:)

Marco.

Haselsh1
15-06-2019, 11:23
A roof, food, a means to pay my way.

RobbieGong
15-06-2019, 11:23
Yes Rob, but you have kids, which adds a totally different dimension to your life, and so if you're a good parent, which I know you are, your priorities and time revolve around doing what's best for *them*, not you, which makes achieving some of what I've outlined above rather difficult.

However, it's about embracing the essence of those concepts and, as Martin (Minstrel says), having, I quote: "the wisdom and serenity to know whats really important in life" [clue: not money or material possessions], and not taking your eye off that ball:)

Marco.

True Marco and perceptive of you.

My kids, wife and family are no. 1, throw in work, church life and church commitments / meetings as a member of the church leadership does indeed sometimes leave barely a smidgeon for me stuf, BUT yeah, I do get my priorities right and can look myself in the mirror which has to be a good thing ;)

Haselsh1
15-06-2019, 11:24
Maybe we should also have 3 things that are the least important to you?

Anything that is merely an embellishment.

Marco
15-06-2019, 11:30
True Marco and perceptive of you.

My kids, wife and family are no. 1, throw in work, church life and church commitments / meetings as a member of the church leadership does indeed sometimes leave barely a smidgeon for me stuf, BUT yeah, I do get my priorities right and can look myself in the mirror which has to be a good thing ;)

Cool - and *that*, my friend, [and liking what you see, I don't necessarily mean in a physical sense, but as they say, your eyes are the window to your soul - and so only by liking who/what YOU are, can you hope to love or like others], is VERY important.

And yes, I'm quite a perceptive person. Too many broken/damaged people out there, spending their 'lives' hating the world and everyone in it, as a result of not liking what they see when they look in that mirror....

Getting rather deep today, aren't we?:D

Marco.

Marco
15-06-2019, 11:39
Anything that is merely an embellishment.

Digital photography?;)

Marco.

Haselsh1
15-06-2019, 11:55
Digital photography?;)

Marco.

:eyebrows:

Haselsh1
15-06-2019, 11:56
It's good Marco but it is no substitute for the real thing

;)

stairpost
15-06-2019, 12:04
Isn't this place a form of social media?;)


Marco.

Yes, I'd think so. That's why I never say a bad word about enjoying a little bit of hypocrisy now and again :lol:

Marco
15-06-2019, 12:09
Too right, bro! :lolsign:

Marco.

Scooby
15-06-2019, 14:36
1. Keeping my weight down.
2. Having order around me
3. Freedom to work, rest and play when I want.

Joe
15-06-2019, 15:16
Cool - and *that*, my friend, [and liking what you see, I don't necessarily mean in a physical sense, but as they say, your eyes are the window to your soul - and so only by liking who/what YOU are, can you hope to love or like others], is VERY important.

And yes, I'm quite a perceptive person. Too many broken/damaged people out there, spending their 'lives' hating the world and everyone in it, as a result of not liking what they see when they look in that mirror....

Getting rather deep today, aren't we?:D

Marco.

But isn't that a bit like marking your own homework? Look in mirror, see self, happy with what you see, job done.

But as Rabbie Burns put it:
'O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us
To see oursels as ithers see us!'

Marco
15-06-2019, 15:38
See it more as a form of introspection.

The fact is, many people don't actually LIKE THEMSELVES or who they are, and if that's the case there's little chance of them learning to like, or love, others. And those are the people who usually spend their whole 'lives' (read as miserable existences) as haters of everything and everyone, often with rather disastrous results.

Marco.

mad-moon
15-06-2019, 16:06
Oxygen
Water
Food

Macca
15-06-2019, 22:47
Oxygen
Water
Food

Or water - food -shelter. Oxygen you get whether you want it or not. Unless you're trying to live under the sea like Stromberg in 'The Spy Who Loved Me.' But he did have it all planned out, fair play to him.

Lawrence001
15-06-2019, 23:25
Or water - food -shelter. Oxygen you get whether you want it or not. Unless you're trying to live under the sea like Stromberg in 'The Spy Who Loved Me.' But he did have it all planned out, fair play to him.Oxygen (or rather clean air) is not a given in our cities anymore. Here in London there are primary schools next to busy main arteries like the north circular and the air around them is in breach of all standards. Rates of asthma are terrible. This is not good.

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Macca
16-06-2019, 08:17
Well that's different, Try living round here with an 8 lane highway just a couple of hundred yards away. Usually its windy so not so bad but on a warm, still day the air quality is horrendous. Diesel engines. I said that would be a disaster 20 years ago when they started incentivising them.

Joe
16-06-2019, 08:28
For a very brief period in the 1950s, London's air quality improved when the Clean Air Act was passed. Then they tore up the tram lines and replaced the trams with diesel-fuelled buses.

Macca
16-06-2019, 08:47
And now they are putting the trams back at massive expense whilst claiming they don't have enough money to run essential services...

Marco
16-06-2019, 08:49
Oxygen (or rather clean air) is not a given in our cities anymore. Here in London there are primary schools next to busy main arteries like the north circular and the air around them is in breach of all standards. Rates of asthma are terrible. This is not good.


Indeed, and one of the reasons I wouldn't live in London if you paid me!;)

Marco.

Joe
16-06-2019, 08:51
And now they are putting the trams back at massive expense whilst claiming they don't have enough money to run essential services...

In Bristol, the council spent millions planning a tram system before deciding they couldn't afford to build one.

Marco
16-06-2019, 08:53
Well that's different, Try living round here with an 8 lane highway just a couple of hundred yards away. Usually its windy so not so bad but on a warm, still day the air quality is horrendous. Diesel engines. I said that would be a disaster 20 years ago when they started incentivising them.

Absolutely, and I say that even as a diesel car-driver.

I've often wondered though, what drove you to Stoke? With respect, it's not one of the nicest places, at least what I've seen if it, and the above (in bold) is just another reason NOT to live there... So was it your job that took you there or what? You don't have a partner or kids to think of, so you must've had choices.....

Unless you had a very good reason to go to Stoke, IMHO, you'd have been far better off in Liverpool, and nearer your mum!:)

Marco.

Marco
16-06-2019, 08:55
In Bristol, the council spent millions planning a tram system before deciding they couldn't afford to build one.

Yeah, like elsewhere, the money as usual would've gone to keeping the 'fat cats' in the style that they've become accustomed to!:rolleyes:

Marco
16-06-2019, 09:00
For a very brief period in the 1950s, London's air quality improved when the Clean Air Act was passed. Then they tore up the tram lines and replaced the trams with diesel-fuelled buses.

Trams, if the correct infrastructure has been put into place, which of course requires some proper planning and financial investment, are an absolutely superb modern invention, and the answer to easing city-centre congestion and pollution. Same goes for a proper underground system, both of which should feature in every major city in the civilised world.

Trams should NEVER have been done away with in the UK. Look how the likes of Amsterdam benefits! London should learn that lesson.

Marco.

Macca
16-06-2019, 09:37
Absolutely, and I say that even as a diesel car-driver.

I've often wondered though, what drove you to Stoke? With respect, it's not one of the nicest places, at least what I've seen if it, and the above (in bold) is just another reason NOT to live there... So was it your job that took you there or what? You don't have a partner or kids to think of, so you must've had choices.....

Unless you had a very good reason to go to Stoke, IMHO, you'd have been far better off in Liverpool, and nearer your mum!:)

Marco.

My girlfriend at the time still had 2 years to go on her degree course when I finished mine so I stuck around, by the time she finished I had made lots of friends locally, had work, and had got to like the place.

Marco
16-06-2019, 09:41
Ok, cool... May I ask what you liked about it? As aside from its history with pottery, I can find little redeeming features, just from what I've seen... But unlike you, I don't know Stoke! Go on then, put on your 'Stoke tourist board' hat and sell me Stoke as somewhere I could take Del to visit for the day!:cool:

You may include history, architecture, museums, as well as cool places to eat and drink, and nice shops to visit.....

Marco.

P.S When you retire, why not go back to Liverpool? Plenty of cheap gaffs there, which with the sale of your place, you could probably buy outright. Your mates could come and visit, and vice versa.

Macca
16-06-2019, 10:07
It was better in the late 1980s as almost nothing had changed since the war. I loved that. In the last 20 years it's all been modernised and sanitised and a lot of the character has gone. Now it's just like anywhere else. I find the local history fascinating but that's just me. I'm not sure you would want to visit as a tourist unless you had a particular interest in ceramics, in which case a day would not be enough. It's the people that make a place, anyway.


House prices in Liverpool are twice what they are here so not much chance of me moving back there. I could probably afford a 1 bed flat in one of those skyscrapers by the docks. Can't see it happening though.

Marco
16-06-2019, 10:19
It was better in the late 1980s as almost nothing had changed since the war. I loved that. In the last 20 years it's all been modernised and sanitised and a lot of the character has gone.


The first bit I get and can relate to. However, from what I've seen of the town centre, I don't see too many signs of 'sanitisation'!!:eek:;)


Now it's just like anywhere else. I find the local history fascinating but that's just me. I'm not sure you would want to visit as a tourist unless you had a particular interest in ceramics, in which case a day would not be enough. It's the people that make a place, anyway.


Yes, we both have an interest in ceramics. Are there any 'leafy green' affluent areas of Stoke?

It's the 'grey urban misery' of it all, I find so depressing. Don't get me wrong, I'm not 'ganging up' on or singling out Stoke; the same could be said for most other cities around the UK, but it's that kinda shit that gets me down, and why I like disappearing into the countryside or seaside when I can, to see nature and breathe in some fresh air!


House prices in Liverpool are twice what they are here so not much chance of me moving back there. I could probably afford a 1 bed flat in one of those skyscrapers by the docks. Can't see it happening though.

I'd have thought it would depend on whereabouts, though... Personally, I'd rather live in the cheapest half-decent place I could in Liverpool, than in Stoke, knowing that I'd have access to such a cool city, with so much to offer, on my doorstep.. But each to his or her own:cool:

Marco.

Macca
16-06-2019, 11:04
The first bit I get and can relate to. However, from what I've seen of the town centre, I don't see too many signs of 'sanitisation'!!:eek:;)



Yes, we both have an interest in ceramics. Are there any 'leafy green' affluent areas of Stoke?
.

Yes there are some posh areas, I live in one of the poorest areas which might have skewed your impression a bit. A lot less crime here than in Liverpool though. And it's quiet, which I like.

Lawrence001
16-06-2019, 11:10
Yes there are some posh areas, I live in one of the poorest areas which might have skewed your impression a bit. A lot less crime here than in Liverpool though. And it's quiet, which I like.Any signs of these county lines drugs gangs yet they seem to be fuck1ng up previously safe areas of the country by all accounts?

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Marco
16-06-2019, 11:40
Yes there are some posh areas, I live in one of the poorest areas which might have skewed your impression a bit. A lot less crime here than in Liverpool though. And it's quiet, which I like.

I think so, because that and the city centre is pretty much all I've seen.

Got a linky to the "posh areas"? And by that, I mean leafy suburbs full of old properties with character, not some soulless 'posh' modern housing estates. I'd rather live where you are, among real people than within those plastic monstrosities.

You obviously like Stoke, and I understand that, which is fine, but there *must* be some equally quiet areas of Liverpool, with affordable housing, even if they're in outlying districts... For me, as long as I was within a single bus/train ride of town, it wouldn't bother me:cool:

Marco.

Macca
16-06-2019, 16:21
This is a posh area just up the hill from me:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penkhull


And just down the road

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Villas

Ninanina
16-06-2019, 16:27
For us Portsmouth is considered kinda the poor area and Southsea the posh & expensive area

I live in the Portmouth bit as does Colin

When Colin was buying his house we looked at houses in Southsea but for the same money you can get a house twice the size in parts of Portsmouth, which is what he did...

Alex_UK
16-06-2019, 20:37
My sister moved to Fazakerley in Liverpool about 25 years ago. I hired a van and helped her move from leafy Brampton in Cambridgeshire. Fazakerley was a shock to a 25 year old East Anglian! :eek: I'd never seen houses with metal roller shutter doors protecting all the windows/doors, or razor wire coiled on extension roofs. She bought a place in Aintree bordering the racecourse a couple of years later which was a much nicer area.

Alex_UK
16-06-2019, 20:40
And just down the road

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Villas

Possibly the weirdest entry I've ever read on Wikipedia...

"The area gained national attention in January 1973, when Polish immigrant Demetrious Myicuria was found dead in his bed. Apparently terrified of a vampire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire) attack, Myicuria had strewn his room with salt and garlic in ritual fashion.[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Villas#cite_note-4) A post-mortem examination showed he had choked to death on a pickled onion, although PC John Pye believed it to have actually been a clove of garlic"

:eek:

stairpost
16-06-2019, 21:05
Possibly the weirdest entry I've ever read on Wikipedia...

"The area gained national attention in January 1973, when Polish immigrant Demetrious Myicuria was found dead in his bed. Apparently terrified of a vampire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire) attack, Myicuria had strewn his room with salt and garlic in ritual fashion.[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Villas#cite_note-4) A post-mortem examination showed he had choked to death on a pickled onion, although PC John Pye believed it to have actually been a clove of garlic"

:eek:

Brilliant! Did they have Wikipedia in the 18th & 19th centuries? :)

Marco
17-06-2019, 07:13
This is a posh area just up the hill from me:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penkhull


And just down the road

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Villas

Interesting... The bottom one (Villas) looks right up my street! Both in terms of the style of architecture/history of the properties and the 'leafy' surroundings. Approx how much do they go for?:)

Marco.

Marco
17-06-2019, 07:18
My sister moved to Fazakerley in Liverpool about 25 years ago. I hired a van and helped her move from leafy Brampton in Cambridgeshire. Fazakerley was a shock to a 25 year old East Anglian! :eek: I'd never seen houses with metal roller shutter doors protecting all the windows/doors, or razor wire coiled on extension roofs.

That must've been the posh bit, as mental shutters wouldn't protect much against grenades.

Marco.

Macca
17-06-2019, 07:37
Interesting... The bottom one (Villas) looks right up my street! Both in terms of the style of architecture/history of the properties and the 'leafy' surroundings. Approx how much do they go for?:)

Marco.

About a quarter of a million.

Macca
17-06-2019, 07:39
My sister moved to Fazakerley in Liverpool about 25 years ago. I hired a van and helped her move from leafy Brampton in Cambridgeshire. Fazakerley was a shock to a 25 year old East Anglian! :eek: I'd never seen houses with metal roller shutter doors protecting all the windows/doors, or razor wire coiled on extension roofs. She bought a place in Aintree bordering the racecourse a couple of years later which was a much nicer area.

Liverpool was a fun place in the 1980s/early 1990s :)

Marco
17-06-2019, 07:45
About a quarter of a million.

Yup, I kinda had that figure in mind. Thing is, in most parts of the UK you can easily pay £250k, for some new-build piece of shit in a soulless housing estate...

Amazing that properties like that are so near your place. Wonder if they still have their original interiors or most of the old features?:)

Marco.

Macca
17-06-2019, 07:54
Some of them do.

Macca
17-06-2019, 07:56
When they were built it was all countryside. All the other houses round about were built 40 to 60 years later.

Marco
17-06-2019, 08:20
Some of them do.

Cool:)

Marco.

Marco
17-06-2019, 08:25
When they were built it was all countryside. All the other houses round about were built 40 to 60 years later.

That's a bit like our place. Before the modern houses surrounding our property were built, it was miles of land/fields, representing part of Acton Hall estate, which led to the old hall itself, and that our gatehouse was part of. There's an identical lodge to ours at the other end of the estate, which is now council owned.

You can see the images here of bygone times, the gates in front of our lodge, and the old hall itself, which sadly has been knocked down: https://www.google.com/search?q=acton+hall+wrexham&oq=acton+hall&aqs=chrome.3.69i57j0l5.3803j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 or https://www.google.com/search?q=acton+hall+wrexham&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=gDO3AnMslOLR_M%253A%252CDX8OKOP_a5CKOM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kTYPcwAwLuifG40G4Fcs-gBs_wyXA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiQ6LWxi_DiAhUIQxUIHWLZD3QQ9QEwBXoECAcQD g#imgrc=gDO3AnMslOLR_M:

Lots of history:)

Marco.

Macca
17-06-2019, 11:22
Yes, so many fantastic old places have been ripped down by idiots. They mostly get away with it too.

Marco
17-06-2019, 11:24
I know.... With local councils, if the back-hander received is suitably generous, then let's just say many 'doors' can be opened;)

Marco.

Beobloke
17-06-2019, 11:50
For us Portsmouth is considered kinda the poor area and Southsea the posh & expensive area

I live in the Portmouth bit as does Colin

When Colin was buying his house we looked at houses in Southsea but for the same money you can get a house twice the size in parts of Portsmouth, which is what he did...

Those of us from Southampton consider the whole of Portsmouth, Southsea, Gosport and Fareham to be the 'poor area'...

:D ;)

Marco
17-06-2019, 12:03
Yesh, but you don't have a hammock!:ner::D

Marco.

Beobloke
18-06-2019, 09:21
True, but I do have a hot tub!! :o)

To be fair, Southampton is a bigger s*it-hole than Portsmouth these days. The only time we ever go into the city centre is if we need to visit John Lewis. We went there on Sunday and were amazed by how many buildings have been demolished since we were last there, which was probably a year ago or more!

Then again, Southampton doesn’t have a ‘nuclear bomb test’ joke about it... ;o)

Marco
18-06-2019, 09:39
I wouldn't thank you to live in any of these congested big cities, especially down south! If I were you, I'd stick to the relative peace and tranquility of rural Hampshire;)

Marco.

walpurgis
18-06-2019, 09:43
Gravesend is the place. I'm surprised they don't make more movies there, as it manages a pretty good 'post apocalyptic' look.

Beobloke
18-06-2019, 12:33
I wouldn't thank you to live in any of these congested big cities, especially down south! If I were you, I'd stick to the relative peace and tranquility of rural Hampshire;)

Marco.

Oh we plan to, don’t worry! :)

Pigmy Pony
19-06-2019, 16:00
1. Good mental health
2. Money
3. Hobby/Hi-Fi

S.

Uncanny Shane, your three are at the top of my 'wants' list...

Pigmy Pony
19-06-2019, 16:11
1. To be able to give my brain a 'spring clean' every couple of weeks or so (don't ask!)

2. Not letting item 1 wreck my short term memory

3. Dammit! I had it, but I've forgotten it again :(

Ninanina
19-06-2019, 18:03
:rfl:

You never fail to crack me up Steve

Marco
19-06-2019, 19:59
1. To be able to give my brain a 'spring clean' every couple of weeks or so (don't ask!)


Brain? Is that what you call that tiny piece of stagnant grey matter, floating between your ears?:D

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
19-06-2019, 21:26
Brain? Is that what you call that tiny piece of stagnant grey matter, floating between your ears?:D

Marco.

Doesn't need to be big, there's still plenty of room for both my brain cells to move about.

Anyway, ask any of my ex's, they'll all tell you I think with my dick :)

alphaGT
20-06-2019, 06:01
It would seem to me, that our lives up to this moment have shaped these three things we hold dear.

1. Being able to play music!
(To me, getting with the mates and rocking out a
few songs brings joy! And emotional release!)

2. Eating GOOD food!
(After nearly starving to death for 6 years, I have
a unique appreciation for the finer foods, it
satisfies many primal urges, and is truly one of
simple pleasures in life)

3. Peace and Quiet
(I think we all understand this, I live in a small
Cottage deep in the woods, and it is so
Relaxing and peaceful here, it’s good for the
Soul.)

Russell

struth
20-06-2019, 06:11
Peace and quiet from noisy ignorant neighbours should be one of them.
Many of course would just want a place to live, a job etc.

No good answer for all

Marco
20-06-2019, 09:40
It would seem to me, that our lives up to this moment have shaped these three things we hold dear.

1. Being able to play music!
(To me, getting with the mates and rocking out a
few songs brings joy! And emotional release!)

2. Eating GOOD food!
(After nearly starving to death for 6 years, I have
a unique appreciation for the finer foods, it
satisfies many primal urges, and is truly one of
simple pleasures in life)

3. Peace and Quiet
(I think we all understand this, I live in a small
Cottage deep in the woods, and it is so
Relaxing and peaceful here, it’s good for the
Soul.)

Russell

I like your '3', Russell, and indeed are fundamentally good for the soul and to feel happy. Simple pleasures, but fundamentally important:)

I simply couldn't function without peace and quiet. The world today is so 'noisy', for all sorts of reasons, and people are always stressed out and shouting at each other, screaming kids, etc, all of which for me stands out like a sore thumb when entering the 'real world', and I'm forced to leave my tranquil repose at home, where the noisiest thing I'm exposed to is the purring of my cats...

Marco.

Marco
20-06-2019, 09:42
Peace and quiet from noisy ignorant neighbours should be one of them.


And if you don't get it, teach them some manners and silence the fuckers!:guns:

Marco.

alphaGT
21-06-2019, 03:45
Doesn't need to be big, there's still plenty of room for both my brain cells to move about.

Anyway, ask any of my ex's, they'll all tell you I think with my dick :)

They say, “ignorance is bliss”, and there is something to that. If you’ve ever had to endure the company of the less fortunate, you realize they are completely unaware that they are not smart. Being smart is only important to smart people.

Russell

alphaGT
21-06-2019, 03:51
I like your '3', Russell, and indeed are fundamentally good for the soul and to feel happy. Simple pleasures, but fundamentally important:)

I simply couldn't function without peace and quiet. The world today is so 'noisy', for all sorts of reasons, and people are always stressed out and shouting at each other, screaming kids, etc, all of which for me stands out like a sore thumb when entering the 'real world', and I'm forced to leave my tranquil repose at home, where the noisiest thing I'm exposed to is the purring of my cats...

Marco.

A time and place for everything. I go play music and make all kinds of noise! I find that the louder we play, the more fun it is! Perhaps this is a primal reaction as well? We do try not to ring our ears, but on rare occasion we slip a little.

But after doing so, the peace and quiet of home is that much more enjoyable, a bit of ying and yang, striking some balance in life.

Russell

Marco
21-06-2019, 06:32
Oh yes defo, I should've stated music, aside! I *love* playing my favourite music loudly, in the car or at home [and I live in a detached house, so I bother no-one]:hairmetal::fingers:

No, what I'm talking about is the ever-increasing levels of 'ambient noise' in today's aggressively loud world, mobile phones constantly bleeping, greater levels of traffic and industrial noise, yapping dogs, screaming kids, and worst of all stressed out, ill-tempered people shouting at each other, continually having arguments - *that* kind of noise...

It's an alien world to me, and feel uncomfortable being exposed to it, as aside from any noise I choose to create, such as when listening to music, my home environment is one of calm, peaceful serenity!:)

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
21-06-2019, 06:33
They say, “ignorance is bliss”, and there is something to that. If you’ve ever had to endure the company of the less fortunate, you realize they are completely unaware that they are not smart. Being smart is only important to smart people.

Russell

So true Russell, being smart has never been important to me! In fact I think I'll have your slogan made into a tramp-stamp, just above the tattoo that says "If you can read this I'm probably in prison" :)

Marco
21-06-2019, 06:37
So true Russell, being smart has never been important to me!

And may I say, you wear it well!:D

Marco.

alphaGT
22-06-2019, 04:35
Oh yes defo, I should've stated music, aside! I *love* playing my favourite music loudly, in the car or at home [and I live in a detached house, so I bother no-one]:hairmetal::fingers:

No, what I'm talking about is the ever-increasing levels of 'ambient noise' in today's aggressively loud world, mobile phones constantly bleeping, greater levels of traffic noise, yapping dogs, screaming kids, and worst of all stressed out, ill-tempered people shouting at each other, continually having arguments - *that* kind of noise...

It's an alien world to me, and feel uncomfortable being exposed to it, as aside from any noise I choose to create, such as when listening to music, my home environment is one of calm, peaceful serenity!:)

Marco.

I agree! I just spent 6 days on the 9th floor of a hospital. Right smack in the middle of the city. 24 hours a day, 3 am or 3pm was no difference. It did quiet down about midnight, right after the nurse’s shift change. As I lay in bed, trying to sleep, I could hear 8 or 9 conversations going on. Young nurses having conversations about boys, patients talking to nurses, TV sets going, but when it got fairly quiet, if I listened very far away, you could always hear someone screaming. A sad reality in the hospital. The gentleman in the bed next to me was a half wit, schizophrenic. Apparently he was drunk and hearing voices, so he fell down the stairs and broke his arm, jumped in his truck to go to the emergency room, and wrecked the truck, breaking his leg and a huge hematoma on his brain! His stupid mouth never stopped, hoards of doctors rallied around, plying him with ice cream to tell them all about his schizophrenia. Oh! And the beeping! Constant beeping and alarms going off! It was maddening, I was never so glad to leave anywhere in my life! The first two days at home, I never turned on the radio or tv, I just laid here in silence, loving every minute.

Russell

alphaGT
22-06-2019, 04:45
Peace and quiet from noisy ignorant neighbours should be one of them.
Many of course would just want a place to live, a job etc.

No good answer for all

I recall back in Psychology Class, some guy named Abraham, ( I think?), had the levels of wants, I forget the classy name they gave it. But it was something like, the first thing we want is air! Next is water, then food, then shelter, then sex, and so forth and so on. A man with no food is not concerned with shelter or sex, a man with no air is not concerned about food. The list continued, but that was the gist of the lesson. Seemed rather obvious really.

Russell

Joe
22-06-2019, 05:29
I recall back in Psychology Class, some guy named Abraham, ( I think?), had the levels of wants, I forget the classy name they gave it. But it was something like, the first thing we want is air! Next is water, then food, then shelter, then sex, and so forth and so on. A man with no food is not concerned with shelter or sex, a man with no air is not concerned about food. The list continued, but that was the gist of the lesson. Seemed rather obvious really.

Russell

Maslow's 'hierarchy of needs'. We covered it in A level Economics, more years ago than I care to remember. It seemed rather obvious to me, too, but then so did almost everything we studied in Economics..

alphaGT
22-06-2019, 12:57
Maslow's 'hierarchy of needs'. We covered it in A level Economics, more years ago than I care to remember. It seemed rather obvious to me, too, but then so did almost everything we studied in Economics..

That’s it! Your memory is far better than mine. Abraham Maslow, I thought they made too big a deal of his writings, because, as we said, it’s so obvious.he just happened to be the first to write it down.

So, I suppose once all of his needs are met, peace and quiet follow close behind? Although there are people who love the city! They love the hustle and bustle of city life, they love New Years Eve in Times Square! But, I suspect that at some point, even they need a moment of peace and quiet to collect themselves?

So back to the topic of this thread, the three things that are most important, while peace and quiet will eventually be important for everyone, will it make their top three? And does it become more important with age? I suspect that 25 years ago, my answers would have been much different.

Russell

Joe
24-06-2019, 08:43
That’s it! Your memory is far better than mine. Abraham Maslow, I thought they made too big a deal of his writings, because, as we said, it’s so obvious.he just happened to be the first to write it down.

So, I suppose once all of his needs are met, peace and quiet follow close behind? Although there are people who love the city! They love the hustle and bustle of city life, they love New Years Eve in Times Square! But, I suspect that at some point, even they need a moment of peace and quiet to collect themselves?

So back to the topic of this thread, the three things that are most important, while peace and quiet will eventually be important for everyone, will it make their top three? And does it become more important with age? I suspect that 25 years ago, my answers would have been much different.

Russell

I've always preferred peace and quiet to noise and bustle. Maybe because I grew up in a crowded house with five other people, where it was hard to escape their noise (usually my two sisters arguing with each other).

Once I've ticked the 'obvious' boxes (food, drink, shelter), books, and somewhere quiet to read them, probably top the list. I could, at a pinch, even manage without music, if the choice came down to one or the other.

alphaGT
25-06-2019, 03:43
I've always preferred peace and quiet to noise and bustle. Maybe because I grew up in a crowded house with five other people, where it was hard to escape their noise (usually my two sisters arguing with each other).

Once I've ticked the 'obvious' boxes (food, drink, shelter), books, and somewhere quiet to read them, probably top the list. I could, at a pinch, even manage without music, if the choice came down to one or the other.

I’d say a quiet place to read books would be a very good top 3 item? Even having a personal library of books to read may make the list?

Russell

Marco
25-06-2019, 07:24
So back to the topic of this thread, the three things that are most important, while peace and quiet will eventually be important for everyone, will it make their top three? And does it become more important with age? I suspect that 25 years ago, my answers would have been much different.


Lol yeah, age defo plays a part in that... There's 'noise' though, and there's NOIZE, if you see what I mean...? When I was younger, would the noise of a rowdy party or the din of a very busy bar/nightclub bother me? Not in the slightest... Would it bother me now? Without a doubt, as I'm no longer in that 'zone' [therefore an age thing].

However, when I was younger, would the NOIZE of my parents (and/or brothers and sisters) constantly arguing or screaming, as Joe's just touched upon, bother me? Almost certainly. Would it bother me now, if I had to put up with such from my wife (and/or kids)? Absolutely! [Therefore, not an age thing].

Peace and quiet [living in an oasis of calmness and tranquility] at home is what I've largely always been used to, and so it sticks out like a VERY sore thumb, when I venture elsewhere where that's not the case, and my ears are subsequently assaulted by the din...! That's why the former is *so* precious to me, and I protect it as much as I can.

You even get some folk who, rather bizarrely, can't function in a quiet environment, and so need some form of 'noise/NOIZE' around them, in order to feel comfortable... Now, WTF is *THAT* all about?? :scratch:

Marco.

struth
25-06-2019, 07:28
pattern noise is the worst. your brain just locks on to it, even if its not loud. like a beat of a video game soundtrack as its just a loop

Marco
25-06-2019, 07:32
Yeah, like constantly bleeping mobile phones [every time they receive some form of notification]... Can't stand it!:steam:

And yet you get folks who have their phones sat next to their beds at night, bleeping away, keeping them awake in the process. Then they moan next day because they're tired!!:doh::rolleyes:

Utter muppetry.

Marco.

Alex_UK
25-06-2019, 14:02
I hardly ever sit in quiet at home. Even when I'm on my own I have background music or local radio on. However I love going out into the country or the local park and enjoying the peace and quiet of nature. Relatively speaking, of course - birds, wind, water can be "noisy" - but all very relaxing and calming. (Except when the seagulls kick off!)

alphaGT
26-06-2019, 04:39
It seems to me the man made noises are the worst offenders. Beeping, buzzing, ring tones, Jack hammers, typewriters, those sorts of things are maddening! But, I’ve been on the beach when the surf was deafening! You literally had to shout to be heard, but somehow that sound of the swells and crashing waves is therapeutic. I used to go to Nags Head, less than 4 hours from me, for a whole week, once a year, to a rented beach front house. And laying in bed at night you could still hear the ocean, and the house on stilts would sway in the wind, enough to tell. And it was most relaxing. After commercial construction work all year, it really cleared my mind and recharged my batteries.

But there are a few sounds that don’t bother me, like the sound of a Harley off in the distance. Rumbling thunder before a storm, or the sound of a babbling brook near by. That is truly a strange phenomena, camping near a creek, as you are about to doze off, the babbling water really does sound like human voices, like many people whispering, and your mind tries to pick one out, tries to catch a word, but of course you never do, it always seems to strike just as you are on the edge of sleep. And contrary to how it sounds, it is a most pleasant experience.

Russell

Joe
26-06-2019, 08:36
Growing up, I lived very near a railway line, and the sounds of the trains going to and fro would lull me to sleep. I also lived near a railway line when I was a student, and again in the first house I owned. I'm sure the noise would drive me crazy now, though, as my tolerance for noise pollutions gets lower and lower.

Again, I used to be able to work with noise in the background, and indeed preferred to have music playing when doing DIY, or studying. These days, I need silence to work in, otherwise I get distracted from what I'm doing.

Beobloke
27-06-2019, 07:19
I think the point about man-made noise is pertinent. When I’m in bed at night, I prefer the room pitch dark and completely silent, which is exactly what we get at home, being out in the sticks.

However, we do an annual winter spa trip to Portugal with friends in February/March. The hotel is right above the beach and I love to leave the balcony door open at night and fall asleep to the sound of the sea.

Macca
27-06-2019, 07:34
I can sleep through anything except a ticking clock. If there's a ticking clock in the room no way am I getting to sleep no matter how tired I am.

stairpost
28-06-2019, 16:33
It seems to me the man made noises are the worst offenders. Beeping, buzzing, ring tones, Jack hammers, typewriters, those sorts of things are maddening!

Russell

I agree, but I have to say as much as I love having birds around, when they are singing, chirping and squawking from before dawn on a summer's morning, it might as well be an alarm going off. But that's the rough with the smooth I guess.

alphaGT
29-06-2019, 08:23
I agree, but I have to say as much as I love having birds around, when they are singing, chirping and squawking from before dawn on a summer's morning, it might as well be an alarm going off. But that's the rough with the smooth I guess.

A house I lived in some 30 years ago, had aluminum awnings over the windows. And every Spring birds would build nests in the bedroom window awning! Damn little chicks screaming for food, raising cane at 5:30am! I hated to disturb the nest, but I couldn’t work with all that noise! A coworker advised me to place a fake snake in it, and they would stay away, so I took some black fuel line and laid it up in the awning and it worked! No more birds in my awnings. I love birds singing and such, but at a distance.

Russell