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orchardaudio
29-05-2019, 02:25
There will be a double blind demo of multiple Rpi DACs including the PecanPi in Hamburg.
It is completely free.
For more info and to register email linux@kompage.de
More info here:
https://forum.volumio.org/volumio-soundcheck-invitation-for-hamburg-germany-t5918-120.html#p63722
Pepperamip
29-05-2019, 06:32
Can't make it but will be very interested in the results.
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orchardaudio
29-05-2019, 12:03
Can't make it but will be very interested in the results.
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Results will be posted in that thread on volumio forum.
ALLO.com
14-06-2019, 20:36
Soundcheck results are out
PecanPi , Katana tested in double blind tests with 2 different amps
Katana and even Boss 1.2 comes on top on every amp
Read more here https://forum.volumio.org/volumio-soundcheck-invitation-for-hamburg-germany-t5918-140.html
Bigman80
14-06-2019, 20:56
Soundcheck results are out
PecanPi , Katana tested in double blind tests with 2 different amps
Katana and even Boss 1.2 comes on top on every amp
Read more here https://forum.volumio.org/volumio-soundcheck-invitation-for-hamburg-germany-t5918-140.htmlI can't see the Pican either.
ALLO.com
17-06-2019, 10:13
I had a talk with Judi, across all the amps tested the panel found the fallowing
Hypex amp with 0.0015 THD+N
1. DacBerry pro+
2. Katana SQ AND Primo
3. Boss AND iQAudio DAC pro
Rotel RB-1552mkII measured at 0.03 THD+N
1. Katana SQ AND Primo
2. Boss (not really shure about this placement)
3. DacBerry pro+ AND iQaudio DAC pro
This was a double blind test. I think that at this level the differences are rather small and it comes down to preferences . All the tested DACs were found pleasant to listen to.
Pepperamip
17-06-2019, 13:11
Has anyone had a try of the DacBerry Pro+?
99 bucks for a top pi dac seems very reasonable to me.
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Has anyone had a try of the DacBerry Pro+?
99 bucks for a top pi dac seems very reasonable to me.
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Don't think they're on general sale yet but I may try one when they do...
orchardaudio
20-06-2019, 13:11
Judi states:
"The PecanPi was inconspicuous, which means it has mastered all disciplines well."
Also
"Here, in this round all boards were rated first class."
https://forum.volumio.org/volumio-soundcheck-invitation-for-hamburg-germany-t5918-150.html#p64189
So I am in agreement with assessment of other members that in the end it boiled down to prefrence as all devices were rated as first class. Also the Amps seemed to make a big difference in the results so the DAC + AMP combo is a big portion of the results.
I am planning on sending them my BOSC amp for future evaluations.
From all of the units tested the PecanPi is the only one that offers a built in Hi-Fi headphone amplifier. It is also the only device which offers XLR connections without requiring modifications/soldering.
With the XLR connection you would get an extra 6dB of SNR.
All units were evaluated using RCA.
orchardaudio
20-06-2019, 14:15
It looks like the PecanPi was not a part of all tests because they ran out of time:
"We did second round on analog amp only with the 5 boards, because short of time (after 10pm), as i wrote before. PecanPi could have won round two, but we don't know now."
Bigman80
20-06-2019, 14:37
It looks like the PecanPi was not a part of all tests because they ran out of time:
"We did second round on analog amp only with the 5 boards, because short of time (after 10pm), as i wrote before. PecanPi could have won round two, but we don't know now."I have to say, I find this grossly disappointing. The fact it wasn't included in all the listening isn't right IMO. I don't think a clear winner can be defined from this effort in Munich.
scotty38
20-06-2019, 15:36
Agreed. It matters not one jot to me which won as I own none of them but yep, how kit (that is there and supposedly part of the tests) can not be included and then a winner declared is laughable.
ALLO.com
21-06-2019, 10:28
I think that Soundcheck is not really to declare a winner. Rather they show what a panel of judges have preferred on a double blind test using multiple amps .
Judy testing shows that your specific amp (and probably speakers) can change how a specific DAC sounds (of course) in a home setup
PecanPI, Khadas , Katana and Primo were tested(even more boards) first on a Ncore amp
This is what Judy said on the findings : "i think it's clear. We likedPecan Pi, but we liked 5 boards better than PecanPi. we did second round on analog amp only with the 5 boards, because short of time (after 10pm), as i wrote before. PecanPi could have won round two, but we don't know now."
On the second amp , they took the first 5 DACs and listened again .
Judy is very clear that all DACs were very good , its just sound preferences that make the difference (splitting hairs).
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