Should I hardwire my Mac to my Network

[Pepperamip]

I use Audirvana on my macbook which goes to volumio on my rpi/digione.

My rpi/digione is hardwired to the network but I use my mac wirelessly and its only just dawned on me that I probably need to get this hardwired too.

So do I use a 5/6m ethernet so I can still use it as the controller or do I have a short run and leave it with the other components and use the phone app?

Would there would be any issues with an android controller with AV being on an IOS machine?

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[struth]

if its feasible i'd run an ethernet to the mac and keep it all wired

[Pepperamip]

Thanks Grant, it is feasible so thats what I shall do.

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[struth]

The duronic stuff is very good value.

[Jimbo]

I have same set up Audirvana on Mac then Ethernet cable to router. I then have Pi3 + Boss1.2 Ethernet cable to router.

Control Pi via Volumio/Audirvana. Audirvana controlled by Audirvana + on IPad.

[Pepperamip]

Found a suitable ethernet cable and have just realised my macbook air has no RJ45 socket. When did apple come up with that great idea?

Luckily you can buy USB to gigabit ethernet so one is on order.

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[struth]

Sounds complicated. Who doesn't give a ethernet port..
After saying that my zbook looked like it didn't have one, but it turned out one if the slots opens up wide to become one. Sort of spring loaded.
Think it was because its a thin laptop

[Pepperamip]

It surprised me.

Anyway this little gizmo should sort things out for £6 v official apple one for £28https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190507/7fe2c2aecd225211d80a7d9766a8f664.jpg

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[Jimbo]

Found a suitable ethernet cable and have just realised my macbook air has no RJ45 socket. When did apple come up with that great idea?

Luckily you can buy USB to gigabit ethernet so one is on order.

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They do stupid things like that and removing standard headphone sockets from phones. Unnecessary and just plain annoying!

[Pepperamip]

Yeah it is.

I think the latest x series apple phones are massively overpriced at the moment too (on or off contract) which is why I went for a Huawei p20 Pro but that's a different argument for another time maybe.

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[twotone]

I'd be wary of buying a non Apple connector, I bought a cheap £6 aftermarket lightening>Hdmi adaptor to watch movies on my phone>LCD TV when I was abroad. I have 'bought' the movies from the Apple store/itunes legitimately but I couldn't play the movies on a TV from the phone I could however see the phone and all the other stuff from the phone on the TV but no movies.

The Apple connector is £50 and apparently works for movies to a TV via the phone/connector but Apple can and have changed what that connector does with subsequent upgrades, also there's a small PCB inside the connector which Apple upgrade the software on.

Tony

[struth]

yup, you can never tell if they have tampered with some aspect to screw more cash out of you. Was with them for ages and they are great products but their greed knows no end

[Pepperamip]

yup, you can never tell if they have tampered with some aspect to screw more cash out of you. Was with them for ages and they are great products but their greed knows no end100% agree with this. Never started this way but their products of late force you to buy newer comparable ancillaries purely to squeeze more money out of their existing customers.

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[twotone]

100% agree with this. Never started this way but their products of late force you to buy newer comparable ancillaries purely to squeeze more money out of their existing customers.

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There's nothing really wrong with that business model Paul, Apple products are excellent although I'd disagree that they are pricey, yes maybe to buy but the products (phones and laptops & computers) certainly hold their value so cost of ownership isn't really that expensive especially if you keep their laptops and phones for a few years, my current MacBook Pro is a mid 2015 retina model and it's still as good as the day that I bought it.

I bought an HP Spectre laptop a couple of months ago (need it for business use). I bought it second hand and paid £725 for it, it was purchased on January 19th 2019 for £1199, that's some hit on a three month old laptop.

And, being honest I'm really struggling to use WIN 10 but I'll need to get used to it but Apple stuff just works, buy a new laptop and it hooks up to your phone and all of your settings are on the laptop ready to use, text, email etc etc not the case with Windows 10 I've still not managed to set up an email account on the HP.

Apple MacBook pros three and four year old are still about the best part of a grand to buy SH.

However £50 for an adaptor is pretty much in rip off territory but the thing is that it works whereas the aftermarket one was a completely waste of money.

[Pepperamip]

Tony you are right about their laptops and desktops. They are well worth the money and work well for many years. I've got a macbook air and apart from it not allowing a wired Internet connection I'm very happy with it.

Not so their phones though both in terms longevity and resale value. In fact the iPhone has changed very little since its 7 iteration and yet the cost of owning that one and its latest one has virtually doubled. There are now dozens of different phones that do what any iPhone can do and in some instances surpass it yet apple still believe they can overcharge.

To me they take advantage of their loyal fan base which as you may have guessed does not include me [emoji3]

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[struth]

Yup I ended up with a Sony phone. Saved a fortune and its a great thing.
As for laptops my last one I still use 8hrs plus a day. The new one is a zbook for my Hifi and it's brilliant little thing too.
Google and Firefox keeps all my stuff connected

[twotone]

Tony you are right about their laptops and desktops. They are well worth the money and work well for many years. I've got a macbook air and apart from it not allowing a wired Internet connection I'm very happy with it.

Not so their phones though both in terms longevity and resale value. In fact the iPhone has changed very little since its 7 iteration and yet the cost of owning that one and its latest one has virtually doubled. There are now dozens of different phones that do what any iPhone can do and in some instances surpass it yet apple still believe they can overcharge.

To me they take advantage of their loyal fan base which as you may have guessed does not include me [emoji3]

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Let us know if the adaptor works Paul, can't quite get my head round a laptop without a wired internet connection though.

In saying that though I've never used a wired internet connection for my MacBook pro (or my old Sony Viao which is about 10 years old now) I'm not even sure the MBP has a socket for wired internet although there are two sockets with lightening symbols on them?

Just checked they're thunderbolt sockets so presumably you can use those for wired internet?

[Pepperamip]

Let us know if the adaptor works Paul, can't quite get my head round a laptop without a wired internet connection though.

In saying that though I've never used a wired internet connection for my MacBook pro (or my old Sony Viao which is about 10 years old now) I'm not even sure the MBP has a socket for wired internet although there are two sockets with lightening symbols on them?

Just checked they're thunderbolt sockets so presumably you can use those for wired internet?Yeah will do, just getting the odd drop out here and there with upsampled content I'm hoping will be irradicated by this device but that is of course only if it works as intended.

I shall report back in due course.

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[dave2010]

I think that wired comms are usually better, but it does depend what you want them for. I always assumed that wired would obvously be better, and deliver higher data rates, but in one flat we owned to my surprise wireless gave the same data rates as a Powerline link - though I appreciate that Powerline links are not quite the same as a truly wired link. In one room in another house I found that downloads across the room to a computer for updates took forwever (well 40-50 minutes) via wireless and just a minute or so via a dedicated cable - this really was a cable that time. However, trailing a cable across the living room floor is not something which others in the house appreciate as a permanent "solution".

Cables can get in the way, and if you have to go a long way can be a pain to get through the walls etc., and the benefits, if any, may be marginal.

Re Apple - yes the newer laptop models don't have ethernet, though there are adapters which work quite well. I have one, but in all honesty hardly ever use it. The point (for me) is that a laptop is portable, and can be moved around, and (in theory) I don't use it for anything which requires "serious" work. However, over the last year or so, I have been using the laptop more and more, and although I do prefer using a desktop with a large screen, it just doesn't happen much these days. Also my laptop is actually faster for some work, as it has an i7 processor, and USB 3, whereas my iMacs have slower processors, and only USB 2 - which can be a real pain nowadays. If I live long enough I'll get a new iMac and push the limits on speed etc., but right now that's not going to happen as other things have higher priority.

Lastly - the Apple Pencil which I have been using with my iPad Pro seems to have packed up completely in the last week. Total pita - I'll have to see if I can get Apple to replace it, or give me something in return. Given the amount of use I had out of it (not a lot), that seems really poor to me. I have tried the obvious things - trying to make sure it's charged up, and doing resets etc. on the iPad. So while I generally do like Apple, and I don't think they are really too overpriced as I do appreciate the fact that mostly things "just work" - which I thought was hardly ever the case with Windows - in some areas Apple are perhaps still providing poor service and unreliable products. I will be sad if I can't get the pencil to work, or a replacement or compensation, but I wouldn't rush to buy another one.

[Pepperamip]

Picked the adapter up yesterday. Switched WiFi off on the macbook and it worked straight out the box. Absolutely no configuration required. Very impressed.

USB fits snuggly into the port on the mac and so does the ethernet into the adapter.

£6 well spent so far!

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[twotone]

Thanks for the update Paul.:cool: