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Goldminer
06-05-2019, 20:36
I am thinking about upgrading my speakers at home. My music system is now located in a much larger open plan space, measuring roughly 10m x 8m by 3m (c 8500 cubic feet!) which is not a perfect rectangle. The kit is located about halfway down the long side and faces slightly away from centre into a sitting area. This is not a dedicated listening space, but I will listen to plenty of music either seated or whilst working in the kitchen.

I have a system of Cymbol separates (see below) designed by Tony Brady, formerly Onix and now Exposure, plus B&W 603 S2 floorstanders. The Cymbols sound (and look!) great, as do the B&Ws, but I am wondering if a different set of speakers might fill the space better. I get 60w output from the amps currently but I am in the process of picking up a second so I can bi-amp my speakers. I get a very easy sound to listen to at the moment: warm but detailed and a bit of heft when required. I have a pretty eclectic taste in music, listening to classical/choral as well as jazz/rock/pop.

I would appreciate any thoughts on speakers which might fill my space. They need to be relatively easy to drive and able to cope with a broad range of music. I’ve been recommended Spendor SP2/3R2s, but I’ve not been able to track any down. Any other ideas?

System:
Cymbol CDP6 CD player
Cymbol CDAB1 DAB tuner
Cymbol CA3 integrated amp
Cymbol CP3 power amp
B&W 603 S2 speakers

Lawrence001
06-05-2019, 21:05
Not sure about the 603s' sensitivity, but if I wanted to play music loud in a large room with most modern speakers I'd be looking at 120-150wpc to have plenty of headroom on dynamic passages myself. If they're 90db plus then maybe not.

Edit: realised you said you're getting a second amp, I'd wait to get that to see how the 603s sound if you fundamentally like their sound.

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Pharos
06-05-2019, 23:34
I was offered a job with Cymbol in '97, but it never materialised even though I went with them to the Hi-Fi News show.
They went broke I think.

I repaired a power amp at my interview, and wasn't particularly impressed with it.

It is my opinion that you should buy amps to drive speakers after choosing speakers, because they determine the requirements of an amp to a great extent.

Lurch
07-05-2019, 05:15
There's a nice air of Impulse H2s for sale on the WAM.
https://hifiwigwam.com/forum/topic/133400-fs-impulse-h2/

AJSki2fly
07-05-2019, 05:51
There's a nice air of Impulse H2s for sale on the WAM.
https://hifiwigwam.com/forum/topic/133400-fs-impulse-h2/

Yes they do look good and a very good price, usually go for around £1.5k in good condition

Macca
07-05-2019, 07:14
Big room, twice the size of mine, you could do anything in that.

Don't waste money bi-amping though!

Don't know what the budget is but I'd start with big Tannoys or JBLs and then work backwards. If you've got the cash JBL 4365 would be killer in that room.

Frazeur1
07-05-2019, 07:52
That is a pretty huge space overall. I guess it would depend on your expectations, but I am with Macca, find something that is decently efficient/easy to drive and has the capability of moving some air. Obviously you have to like whatever speaker you chose, so the efficiency thing is only part of the equation. Have fun, could be an interesting journey!

Beobloke
07-05-2019, 11:43
Sounds like the ideal sort of room for a pair of Goebel Divin Majestics...

http://goebel-highend.de/products/divin-majestic.html

hifinutt
07-05-2019, 11:51
some nice tannoy stirling be good or even kensington if you have a spare 8-10k !!

https://www.audioemotion.co.uk/tannoy-stirling-gr-loudspeakers-452-p.asp

walpurgis
07-05-2019, 13:30
Sounds like the ideal sort of room for a pair of Goebel Divin Majestics...

http://goebel-highend.de/products/divin-majestic.html

Fugly!

icehockeyboy
07-05-2019, 15:36
Usher CP 6371’s are a great speaker, quite large with a ‘big’sound.

philv
08-05-2019, 19:59
JBLs!
Might have some 4312mk2 up for sale soonish.

Alex_UK
08-05-2019, 22:07
I’ve been recommended Spendor SP2/3R2s, but I’ve not been able to track any down.

I don't think SP2's would be man enough for that sized space. Harbeth Monitor 40.2's would. :)

Lawrence001
08-05-2019, 22:15
Usher CP 6371’s are a great speaker, quite large with a ‘big’sound.I think I had those for a while, highly recommended.

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steve-z
10-05-2019, 12:28
Not sure how much you want to spend, if you’re thinking under a grand the Q Acoustics 3050i’s would probably fit the bill, they’re 92db sensitivity so plenty of volume from very little power, a friend of mine has a pair in a pretty big room and drives them with a Cambridge CXA60 with plenty of power in reserve, I have the same amp and drive QA Concept 40s but can’t comment as to how they’d handle a larger room.


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graham67
10-05-2019, 21:45
Some 15" Tannoys in a big cabinet or Spendor sp100 will love having that amount of space.
If you want more modern neutral sounding speakers, the big pro style monitors (with the spider basket) from PMC will be awesome.

graham67
10-05-2019, 21:49
JBLs!
Might have some 4312mk2 up for sale soonish.

Yes these will work nicwly too. I first heard JBL 4311 in a huge single room warehouse conversion and they filled the space easily. 4312 mk2 are a classic so I would speak to Phil about his and twist his arm.��

walpurgis
10-05-2019, 21:55
There's an obvious candidate that nobody's mentioned, the Klipschorns. Glorious sound and effortless oomph! Deep pockets needed though.

Macca
10-05-2019, 22:10
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If you want more modern neutral sounding speakers, the big pro style monitors (with the spider basket) from PMC will be awesome.

Good call but they are mega-money.

Ninanina
10-05-2019, 22:12
There's an obvious candidate that nobody's mentioned, the Klipschorns. Glorious sound and effortless oomph! Deep pockets needed though.

That's exactly what I was thinking....Klipschorns.. they are amazing in a large room...

hifinutt
12-05-2019, 14:17
I use something similar to this in my fairly large room . RFC is one of the best guys in the industry for improving speakers . it would take a lot to beat these

https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?63608-Impulse-h6-revamped-by-RFC

crimsondonkey
12-05-2019, 14:29
Horns, the answer is horns, and big ones!

Lawrence001
12-05-2019, 17:01
What about Chris' (Hornucopia) big Leaks, my mate had some and they filled his reasonably big room beautifully.

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hifinutt
12-05-2019, 17:12
you might have to put a link lawrence

Lawrence001
12-05-2019, 21:14
Sorry I meant these

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheartofsound%2Enet%2F forum%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D62890&share_tid=62890&share_fid=4177&share_type=t

I/C Leak 3090s possibly for sale

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