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The Black Adder
03-05-2019, 13:12
Hi all.

A couple of weeks ago I was sent the new PRIMO from Volumio to review.

I have finally got round to doing this so please accept my apologies for the delay.

So, let's get stuck in.

The Volumio Primo:

The Primo is the new music streamer from Volumio. From out of the box it looks very discreet. No functioning lights, not even on the front of the unit. No buttons either so as you can see, it's very minimalistic.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190503/a6f78566a28cfb7b7eb144bb32c93069.jpg


Out of the Box:
At first glance I thought it was a bit too bereft of lights n buttons but then realised that this matt black box simply doesn't need anything.

The finish on the unit is really nice indeed. It's matt black finish is really well done with no fiddly corners, lips or venty bits to gather dust. Just how I like it.

The rear of the unit is also very neatly arranged which includes:
x1 HDMI port
x4 USB
x1 Network socket
x1 High quality gold plated RCA sockets
x1 High quality digital out socket
x1 Wireless aerial socket.

Again, it's simple... Love it.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190503/1219b3196979027bde134d39ab2aee34.jpg


Setup:
Set up was a breeze too. I did however found an error in the easy set up guide which suggested an IP address to use to get the start up screen up. This just didn't want to connect so I simply used the normal 'volumio.local' and 'Ping..' we were cooking.

Existing users of volumio certainty don't neet to worry about using this unit. It's the same interface so very easy to use.

After the unit browsed my USB drive I set it going with the following:

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The Sound:
From the off it was a very nice sound indeed. Smooth, no harshness, no brittleness. Just a very natural sound.

This is very early days but I can say that the sound is really quite astonishing and this little cute discreet black box matches its performance beautifully.

The bass is full and is certainly tight. It's focused and powerful and in my experience with these things if the bass sets off on a good footing things can only get better. This is what makes my booty shake. ;)

The mid range is so natural, no over emphasis. Beautiful and smooth. It does however have a laid back feel which could be more defined but I always hold judgement on this as things burn in.

The high frequency range is also a little laid back but this I think will change as things get more established.

This is not a bad thing though because the sound is so well put together that the stage is full and very precise. Nicely spaced instruments with a bottom what makes the whole picture dovetail.

This is very quickly turning in to one of the best bits of hardare I've had the pleasure to review.

Resampling:
Okay... just had a little play with upsampling but if I wanted to then I'd have to say that I've always found 88khz 24bit to be the best rate IMO but WOW... this thing really rocks and can reach up to 768khz!!!

I've never been a fan of upsampling but trying some of these options on the Primo I'm pretty astonished. This thing doesn't miss a beat. No glitches, no pauses between tracks, simply solid all the way.

Stone cold crazy.

DSD playback:

YES! - The Primo handles DSD files beautifully and even with the highest resampling using the highest quality algorithm. What else could you want!! lol

Inside: (taken from the volumio website) - The techy bit so don't ask me what a Low Dropout Voltage Regulator is... lol
https://i2.wp.com/volumio.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/volumio-primo-hardware-1.jpg?resize=840%2C420&ssl=1
1. Voltage Isolator
2. 2x Low Noise Voltage Regulators
3. Low Dropout Voltage Regulator
4. ESS90x8Q2M DAC
5. High Precision Clock Oscillator
6. DAC Microcontroller
7. 26B RAM
8. Dedicated USB BUS


Versitility:
The Primo is very versatile and would be hard to beat sound wise in this price range but because it has a digital out I assume this could also be used as a head unit supplying a DAC of your choice especially with a small touch screen attached like this which Volumio sell for 229Euros.

https://i0.wp.com/volumio.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/VSTLP-1.jpg?fit=700%2C699&ssl=1

Streaming:

You can also stream from these using the Primo:
https://i0.wp.com/volumio.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Volumio-Primo-Audiophile-Player-Streamer-Features-logo.png?resize=840%2C38&ssl=1


Pricing:
The pricing of this exceptional bit of kit from Volumio ain't cheap. At 479Euros (around £410) It's certainly worth the price and it would be most welcome in my main system.

This is the only thing which is stopping me purchasing one of these.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190503/af6b0b4695c088dd1e78d6dfd144de9d.jpg

Its certainly too early to compare this to the Allo katana + Isolator but the one thing this has over the Allo so far is that it looks lovely and it's simple design makes it a joy to use.

I will be back now and then to update the OP so please keep checking.

UPDATE:

After a few weeks of using the Primo it's time to conclude my experience with it.

Although I didn't have the unit for too long I can honestly say that if you are in the market for a streamer then the Primo is must certainly be one on your list. It's ease of setup is a huge plus point. A lot of streamers are fiddly to set up to some people who, lets face it are coming in cold from a CD player. For those people it's a dream to just plug a few things in and it works. No in-depth messing with IP addresses or wifi setup. The Primo just works.

The sound of the Primo is lush. It's agile signature is a lovely thing to behold. No harshness, a voluminously focused bass and a nicely spaced sound stage. What is there not to like?

If it was to compare with the ALLO Katana I would say that, given more time to really let it flex it's muscles I feel it would certainly be a most respectable rival. It has a slightly different presentation to the ALLO but it's by no means a negative. If you want something to sound like peaches and cream then the Primo has it. :)

The price will put some off but what you will be getting is something discreet, well made, adaptable, easy to set up and performance bostingly good.

Jo :)

struth
03-05-2019, 13:27
Good write up Josie..:)

The Black Adder
03-05-2019, 13:36
Thanks, Grant.

It's certainly a lovely little thing.

Pepperamip
03-05-2019, 14:40
Well written and informative. Would love to compare this to my digione.

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The Black Adder
03-05-2019, 14:46
Indeed, Paul.

I've never tried the digi one so that might be a good thing to check out maybe?

I'm updating the OP as I go so please keep checking.

bronzeage
03-05-2019, 15:03
Can you stream Qobuz with this gizmo? It might be what a dummy like me could do with.

Edit: I checked the website, and yes you can. Could onto something here...

The Black Adder
03-05-2019, 15:29
Yep, you can stream all of these:

https://i0.wp.com/volumio.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Volumio-Primo-Audiophile-Player-Streamer-Features-logo.png?resize=840%2C38&ssl=1

mikeyb
03-05-2019, 16:43
Can you stream Qobuz with this gizmo? It might be what a dummy like me could do with.

Edit: I checked the website, and yes you can. Could onto something here...Do it for 1/3 the price if you buy a Pi a DAC Hat and install Volumio yourself. Then run Bubble UPnP on an Android phone or tablet and still have access to Qobuz, Tidal, Spotify etc.

Might not look as pretty but do the same job [emoji6]

The Black Adder
04-05-2019, 15:21
Indeed.. I'm sure there are other ways of doing this but that would be for the more technically minded.

This is a very nicely packaged unit, easy to use and set up which is very appealing.

IMO for someone requiring an extraordinarily nice sounding streamer which is simple to set up then this is a no brainer.



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Edward
04-05-2019, 15:26
Looking forward to trying this out.

bronzeage
04-05-2019, 15:58
Do you have to pay extra to stream Qobuz/Tidal? I saw that mentioned in a different review, as in, extra to Volumio, not just the streaming subscription.

struth
04-05-2019, 16:18
Do you have to pay extra to stream Qobuz/Tidal? I saw that mentioned in a different review, as in, extra to Volumio, not just the streaming subscription.

if you want it within volumio then yes, but you could sent it to it from say your pc for free.

the primo deal may give you a period for free

mikeyb
04-05-2019, 18:21
Do you have to pay extra to stream Qobuz/Tidal? I saw that mentioned in a different review, as in, extra to Volumio, not just the streaming subscription.If you have an Android tablet or smartphone you can use Bubble uPnP app to control Qobuz, Tidal plus others.

No need to pay for Volumio just use the standard Volumio and Bubbles your uncle [emoji106][emoji23]

Jimbo
04-05-2019, 19:04
Thanks for the review Josie.

Bencat
10-05-2019, 06:23
I think a more interesting comparison is with the Touch Screen version they sell which given the screen etc seems to be a very fair price .

AndreVOLUMIO
21-05-2019, 07:52
Looking forward to trying this out.

Good morning!
I believe the unit is on the way!

AndreVOLUMIO
21-05-2019, 07:54
I think a more interesting comparison is with the Touch Screen version they sell which given the screen etc seems to be a very fair price .

Bencat,
have you seen this...
https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/05/11/volumio-motivo-gorgeous-audio-streamer-sopine-a64-som/

more info soon...

The Black Adder
21-05-2019, 07:59
It's on its way, Edward. You should have it today.

Kindest regards
Josie

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The Black Adder
21-05-2019, 08:01
Bencat,
have you seen this...
https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/05/11/volumio-motivo-gorgeous-audio-streamer-sopine-a64-som/

more info soon...Wow... That looks really slick.

Would love to try that. Any idea of price?

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The Black Adder
21-05-2019, 10:22
An update.

The Primo is now on it's way to the next participant so it would be great to hear what Edward has to say about it.

The Black Adder
21-05-2019, 10:36
Update now added to OP.

AndreVOLUMIO
02-06-2019, 17:23
Hi to all,
Just a quick update on the travelling Primo unit... It safely arrived at the 2nd in line member.
I guess we should have some more news soon.
As one member dropped out, there is only 1 more left in line.

I guess we can extend the offer if more are interested but expect 3-4 weeks waiting time.

regards

The Black Adder
02-06-2019, 17:26
It would be great to know what Edward thought of it.



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webby60
24-07-2019, 13:05
It would be great to know what Edward thought of it.



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Bump!

The Black Adder
24-07-2019, 13:48
Thanks for the bump.

Who has this unit now please?

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AJSki2fly
24-07-2019, 14:45
Thanks for the bump.

Who has this unit now please?

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I was somewhere near the top of the list and been waiting for months to see it, I did try to contact Marco but got now response, does anyone know what's happening with it?

The Black Adder
24-07-2019, 15:42
I'll find out.

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Edward
24-07-2019, 15:47
I had to send the unit back to Andre as it developed a small fault. My understanding was that Andre would be sending another unit to the next in line.

webby60
24-07-2019, 16:16
I had to send the unit back to Andre as it developed a small fault. My understanding was that Andre would be sending another unit to the next in line.

Did you have it long enough to form any kind of opinion?

The Black Adder
24-07-2019, 16:21
Aah.. Okay

Hmm.. That's unfortunate.

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AJSki2fly
24-07-2019, 16:47
I'll find out.

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I meant Andre :doh:

webby60
30-07-2019, 06:26
It would be nice to hear from Andre regarding the current state of play.
I'm in the market for a new streamer and one of these would be on my shortlist.

mikeyb
30-07-2019, 17:23
Review here:

https://www.avforums.com/review/volumio-primo-network-audio-player-review.16218

webby60
30-07-2019, 19:25
Review here:

https://www.avforums.com/review/volumio-primo-network-audio-player-review.16218

Seems from reading the discussion after the review that many have reached the same conclusion as you at the beginning of this thread.Unless I missed it performance via spdif appears to have been ignored?

jonners
31-07-2019, 08:46
Volumio have a new streamer on the way: https://volumio.org/epic-journey-called-volumio-motivo/

EDIT: I see it's already been flagged up earlier in the thread.

The Black Adder
31-07-2019, 09:04
Volumio have a new streamer on the way: https://volumio.org/epic-journey-called-volumio-motivo/

EDIT: I see it's already been flagged up earlier in the thread.


Yes, it looks superb.

jonners
31-07-2019, 17:43
Yes, it looks superb.

This could be even superber, if that's a word. We'll just need an exchange rate miracle: https://www.oktoresearch.com/dac8stereo.htm

ben_hong_kong
30-09-2019, 14:29
Firstly, thank you to the OP for taking the time to write up the review of this device. I am looking at upgrading my Sonos Connect and have been looking at the Primo partly based on the review it got on Darko's youtube channel and the write-up above.

I am quite new to streaming so forgive what might be a newbie type of question. Can the Primo handle playback of the Tidal masters MQA file format? I haven't been able to get clarity on that from the online searching I've been doing over the last few days.

Any feedback/thoughts on the above would be hugely appreciated.

mikeyb
30-09-2019, 16:37
Firstly, thank you to the OP for taking the time to write up the review of this device. I am looking at upgrading my Sonos Connect and have been looking at the Primo partly based on the review it got on Darko's youtube channel and the write-up above.

I am quite new to streaming so forgive what might be a newbie type of question. Can the Primo handle playback of the Tidal masters MQA file format? I haven't been able to get clarity on that from the online searching I've been doing over the last few days.

Any feedback/thoughts on the above would be hugely appreciated.Here's the official thread on the Volumio forum, not sure if you'll find the answer there.

https://forum.volumio.org/volumio-primo-official-thread-t11397.html

jonners
30-09-2019, 17:46
The short answer is that Volumio will handle MQA files if you have an MQA-enabled USB DAC.
The longer answer is this thread: https://forum.volumio.org/mqa-t10205.html