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mad-moon
01-05-2019, 09:29
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-birmingham-45580105/west-midlands-police-spots-drivers-using-mobiles-from-bus
This is great...It should be used country wide...
MikeMusic
01-05-2019, 10:00
Hilarious !
walpurgis
01-05-2019, 10:06
Good idea. Anything to get mobile using morons off the road is fine by me.
yup i guess in this case the ends justify the means; even if it is a bit big brother-ish
Been doing that around here for last couple of years
£200 fine? Should be a flogging offence.
Getting stuck behind the wankers at traffic lights because they are on the phone and haven't noticed that the light has gone green. They need to be dragged out of their cars and shot at the side of the road. Double tap. In the face so the mothers can't give them an open coffin at the funeral.
Audio Al
01-05-2019, 12:02
Easy picking for the old bill , and money to be made , Try catching real criminals , What cost is involved hiring a dd bus and all the plod ? :hmm:
Assuming it is a normal bus then it will only cost them the bus fare.
It probably isn't though. I used to rent cars and vans to the cops, they've got bottomless pockets.
Assuming it is a normal bus then it will only cost them the bus fare.
It probably isn't though. I used to rent cars and vans to the cops, they've got bottomless pockets.
they get free travel
prestonchipfryer
01-05-2019, 12:46
Caught using your phone whilst driving should result in a crushed vehicle (or a fine to the value of if it's not yours) and a five-year driving ban and unlimited fine. Selfish bastards are those who do it.
unless you're on a hands-free ofc.
Yup, but it's still a distraction. Even chatting to someone else in the car or listening to music is a distraction whilst driving, or eating or drinking especially.
Essentially, to do the job as safely and efficiently as possible, you need to have 100% concentration on the road (especially with the levels of traffic these days and the idiots you're forced to share it with) - and that's exactly what should be enforced, with suitable punishments for non-compliance!
And yes, I favour your suggestions in that respect;)
Marco.
Yup, but it's still a distraction. Even chatting to someone else in the car or listening to music is a distraction, or eating or drinking especially, whilst driving.
Essentially, to do the job as safely and efficiently as possible, you need to have 100% concentration on the road (especially with the levels of traffic these days and idiots on the road) - and that's exactly what should be enforced, with suitable punishments for non-compliance!
And yes, I favour your suggestions in that respect;)
Marco.
you must be a right cheery bugger when sharing a car :ner:
all modern cars have handsfree built in so there is no excuse really now. any cars that dont you can add one fairly cheaply
you must be a right cheery bugger when sharing a car :ner:
Ha - I didn't say I didn't do any of those things (although I certainly never eat or drink whilst driving), but that factually, they are a distraction:)
Marco.
Bigandbouncy
01-05-2019, 15:32
Easy picking for the old bill , and money to be made , Try catching real criminals , What cost is involved hiring a dd bus and all the plod ? :hmm:
You’ve obviously never had to pick parts of people off the road after they have been hit by someone distracted by talking on a mobile phone.
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Reminds me The Sweeny was good last night. Early episode where Reagan gets fitted up.
Audio Al
01-05-2019, 15:42
You’ve obviously never had to pick parts of people off the road after they have been hit by someone distracted by talking on a mobile phone.
You would be surprised :eek: at what I have seen as a HGV driver for 30 years
Easy picking for the old bill , and money to be made , Try catching real criminals , What cost is involved hiring a dd bus and all the plod ? :hmm:
I so love that thinking.
What exactly is real criminal in your view?
Obviously not somebody committing an act that could very easily kill or maim an innocent person or cause the loss of, or damage to, thousands of pounds worth of property?
Your chances of loss of your life, serious injury or financial loss are infinitly higher as a victim of a road traffic collision than they are as a victim of a burglary, robbery, assault or murder but still people think the police are wasting their time by penalising dangerous acts on the roads
Audio Al
01-05-2019, 16:35
I so love that thinking.
What exactly is real criminal in your view?
Obviously not somebody committing an act that could very easily kill or maim an innocent person or cause the loss of, or damage to, thousands of pounds worth of property?
Your chances of loss of your life, serious injury or financial loss are infinitly higher as a victim of a road traffic collision than they are as a victim of a burglary, robbery, assault or murder but still people think the police are wasting their time by penalising dangerous acts on the roads
Why not do the same for people who walk the streets staring at their phone's , oblivious of the world around them , More easy money fine them as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYgTM1pPjKQ
I expect when pedestrians kill or seriously injure 176,000 people in one year they might consider doing so
Why not do the same for people who walk the streets staring at their phone's , oblivious of the world around them , More easy money fine them as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYgTM1pPjKQ
Ah, iZombies.... Few things are remotely more ridiculous!:lol::mental:
Nutters, the lot of them.
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
01-05-2019, 17:15
The police I feel took their eye off the ball years ago, when speed cameras took on the role of policing the roads. the result being a huge increase in the numbers of speed-aware knobheads. They tend to drive within the speed limits, but that's the only thing they do right. Lane swapping, undertaking, using the wrong lane in order to gain ground on the other users then barging in further down the road, and tailgating to bully other drivers into moving out of the way. These tossers are getting away with all this because there aren't any real coppers to worry about.
So I would welcome any initiative that would hold these drivers to account. I have a feeling that this latest exercise may be more a revenue raiser than an attempt to improve road safety. How about all these £200 fines going into a fund for the bereaved families? No, I thought not.
walpurgis
01-05-2019, 17:57
Defensiveness and obfuscation are pointless. Pointing at other bad driving habits does not lessen the problem of mobile use. There is no argument, as the indefensible cannot be defended.
Pigmy Pony
01-05-2019, 18:10
No obfuscation here. (Admittedly I had to look it up) :)
All aspects of bad driving, including mobile use are going largely unpunished because speed cameras are of no use. We need more real live human coppers. Can't be clearer than that.
The police I feel took their eye off the ball years ago, when speed cameras took on the role of policing the roads. the result being a huge increase in the numbers of speed-aware knobheads. They tend to drive within the speed limits, but that's the only thing they do right. Lane swapping, undertaking, using the wrong lane in order to gain ground on the other users then barging in further down the road, and tailgating to bully other drivers into moving out of the way. These tossers are getting away with all this because there aren't any real coppers to worry about.
So I would welcome any initiative that would hold these drivers to account. I have a feeling that this latest exercise may be more a revenue raiser than an attempt to improve road safety. How about all these £200 fines going into a fund for the bereaved families? No, I thought not.
100% agree with all the above
Well said
The police I feel took their eye off the ball years ago, when speed cameras took on the role of policing the roads. the result being a huge increase in the numbers of speed-aware knobheads. They tend to drive within the speed limits, but that's the only thing they do right. Lane swapping, undertaking, using the wrong lane in order to gain ground on the other users then barging in further down the road, and tailgating to bully other drivers into moving out of the way. These tossers are getting away with all this because there aren't any real coppers to worry about.
So I would welcome any initiative that would hold these drivers to account. I have a feeling that this latest exercise may be more a revenue raiser than an attempt to improve road safety. How about all these £200 fines going into a fund for the bereaved families? No, I thought not.
Good post. The standard of driving in the UK these days is atrocious!
It's not just the standard of driving ability its as much the lack of courteousness.
It's not just the standard of driving ability its as much the lack of courteousness.
Agreed - tolerance, patience, courtesy, and the ability to 'read the road' have all fallen by the wayside.
It was another good Sweeny tonight, Haskins got fitted up.
It was another good Sweeny tonight, Haskins got fitted up.
Love the Sweeny, John Thaw was gritty in that.
Why's everyone missing out the 'e'? Has it become fashionable?;)
Anyway, yes, it was one of the best shows ever to grace a TV screen!
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
02-05-2019, 06:03
Agreed - tolerance, patience, courtesy, and the ability to 'read the road' have all fallen by the wayside.
I think perhaps an increased reliance on "driver aids" is contributing. Also we are children (or grandchildren) of Maggie. Some have resisted (us lot) :), some have embraced it (the selfish and arrogant drivers whose journey is always more important than everyone else's) and some have grown up thinking it is normal and acceptable behaviour, and their getting away with it just confirms this.
Pigmy Pony
02-05-2019, 06:11
Why's everyone missing out the 'e'? Has it become fashionable?;)
Anyway, yes, it was one of the best shows ever to grace a TV screen!
Marco.
Not fashionable in Yorkshire. E, that Marco, what's he like :)
How tall is Dennis Waterman? He looks quite tall when stood next to John Thaw, but when I saw him on Little Britain years later he looked positively tiny.
prestonchipfryer
02-05-2019, 07:37
Easy picking for the old bill , and money to be made , Try catching real criminals , What cost is involved hiring a dd bus and all the plod ? :hmm:
Yeah, easy picking up the pieces of dead flesh off the carriageway isn't it? When people kill others then they are criminals. Cheers.
MikeMusic
02-05-2019, 08:58
Makes me feel vulnerable when I'm on the bike and see a driver on a mobile phone.
Favourites around here
Van drivers
Women in 4x4s
Yup, the latter are among the biggest idiots on the road, especially the mindless bints on 'school runs'!!:doh::guns:
And the stupid cows can can never park them properly either!
One law I'd introduce is to ban the use of 4x4s in town centres during rush hour, and most importantly ban anyone who doesn't NEED what is ostensibly an an off-road vehicle, from buying one in the the first place!!! You'd need proof of a valid reason for owning one, such as living in a remote rural area, or on a farm, before being allowed to own a 4x4.
'Feeling safe', I'm afraid, isn't a good enough reason for owning one, especially when said 'feeling of safety' leads to unbridled arrogance and selfishness on the road, and thinking along the lines of 'I'm high up inside my nice big 'bus', so can do what I like'.
No, you fucking can't! Boils my piss, so it does....
<Rant over>;)
Marco.
Yup, the latter are among the biggest idiots on the road, especially the mindless bints on 'school runs'!!:doh::guns:
One law I'd introduce is to ban the use of 4x4s in town centres during rush hour, and most importantly ban anyone who doesn't NEED what is supposed to be an off-road vehicle, from buying one in the the first place!!! And the stupid cows can can never park the fuckers properly either.
'Feeling safe', I'm afraid, isn't a good enough reason for owning a 4x4, especially when said 'feeling of safety' leads to unbridled arrogance and selfishness on the road, and thinking along the lines of 'I'm high up inside my nice big 'bus', so can do what I like'.
No, you fucking can't! Boils my piss, so it does....
<Rant over>;)
Marco.
ive noticed around here anyway that women seem to be driving huge vehicles(that they cant drive properly as they cant gauge the size) and the men are all driving small cars these days.
Not sure why, but guessing its a show of woman power.. "My mates all have big cumbersome cars so, I will too"
bizarre is all i can say, especially as they only park them where you could get a bus in, and even the, its done badly:eyebrows:
oh yes most seem to have artificial blonde hair pulled tight enough to stop the blood flow:doh:
Aye, and their backsides are often the size of a bus, too!
oh yes most seem to have artificial blonde hair pulled tight enough to stop the blood flow:doh:
Yes, that'll be 'Cassandra'... Aged 32, but stretch-marked to buggery, botox'd to buggery, false-boobed and fake-tanned to buggery, and when going 'out with the girls', make-up'd and false eye-lashed to buggery, who thinks the skin colour 'burnt orange' is in, wears skirts with an elasticated waistband two sizes too small (as she's fatally insecure about her weight) and short enough to count the crabs on her cunny, has a penchant for vacuous celebrity culture, so never misses an episode of 'Love Island' (as she feels emotionally 'in touch' with all the other fake people), never stops posting 'selfies' of herself on Instagram, for others to laugh at, holidays in Lanzarote and thinks 'prawn cocktail' is a colour of nail varnish.
Do you recognise her?:D
Marco.
mad-moon
02-05-2019, 10:10
Now now girls...you'll be snapping each others beads next.....
I thought you might've recognised her from one of your 'past conquests'?:eyebrows:
Marco.
You'd be surprised at how many of these SUVs aren't actually 4WD.
Vast majority. And the ones that are, are mostly only on occasion.
Tbh 4wd is pretty unnecessary and expensive for 95% of the population
The ones I'm referring to are, but let's call it anything big and bulky (high up) that looks like a 4x4, 'driven' (I use the term loosely) by a vacuous bint.
Marco.
The ones I'm referring to are, but let's call it anything big and bulky (high up) that looks like a 4x4, 'driven' (I use the term loosely) by a vacuous bint.
Marco.Yup.. My brother used to have a land rover and got rid of 4wd as soon as he didn't really need it as its expensive and mostly pointless unless belting about fields
Let's face it, if you live in a (busy) city, then something like that is the LAST thing you should be driving. It should be a Smart car, or better still, a bicycle!! They need taxing to the hilt to own, to put some of these idiots off of buying them.
Marco.
Let's face it, if you live in a (busy) city, then something like that is the LAST thing you should be driving. It should be a Smart car, or better still, a bicycle!! They need taxing to the hilt to own, to put some of these idiots off of buying them.
Marco.
But then what if you need to drive a few hundred miles? Not much fun in some teeny eco car that takes 10 minutes to get to seventy. And then having arse-ache for the rest of the day when you do finally get there. So now you need to have two cars. One for city ands one for everything else. Most people just don't have the dosh. Or the parking space.
As for the pointless 4x4 logically it is all true what you say. But it's an Englishman's - and by extension an Englishwoman's - God-given right to drive about in whatever massively unsuitable vehicle they damn well please to as long as it is road-legal. And long may it continue.
But then what if you need to drive a few hundred miles? Not much fun in some teeny eco car that takes 10 minutes to get to seventy. And then having arse-ache for the rest of the day when you do finally get there. So now you need to have two cars. One for city ands one for everything else. Most people just don't have the dosh. Or the parking space.
Actually, a lot of small cars are great on long distances these days, and pretty comfortable. It's obvious you don't drive or are very up-to-date with what's happening now, car-wise.
But it's an Englishman's - and by extension an Englishwoman's - God-given right to drive about in whatever massively unsuitable vehicle they damn well please to as long as it is road-legal. And long may it continue.
In terms of freedom of choice up to a point, yes (and that also applies to Scottish, Welsh and Irish men and women, or any other nationalities - what's special about the English?), but there needs to be something done to actively discourage both men and women driving those types of vehicles in city centres, especially at rush hour, and causing all sorts of traffic chaos.
You don't drive, so are never (or rarely) inconvenienced by it, and trust me, it can be a nightmare!
Marco.
Pollution in towns and cities with these motors is as much the issue. Poisoning the damn air
Actually, a lot of small cars are great on long distances these days, and pretty comfortable. It's obvious you don't drive or are very up-to-date with what's happening now, car-wise.
In terms of freedom of choice up to a point, yes (and that also applies to Scottish, Welsh and Irish men and women, or any other nationalities - what's special about the English?), but there needs to be something done to actively discourage both men and women driving those types of vehicles in city centres, especially at rush hour, and causing all sorts of traffic chaos.
You don't drive, so are never (or rarely) inconvenienced by it, and trust me, it can be a nightmare!
Marco.
I don't drive myself but I travel in cars every day to and from work at rush hour in a city. So I know all about traffic, inconvenience and so forth.
Minstrel SE
02-05-2019, 19:20
Taking another slant on this how are the number of police officers in service going to enforce 100% concentration on the road?
I wonder what percentage of accidents are caused by mobile phone use. Everything is a distraction including music in the car or chatting to others. Kids in the car could be as distracting as mobile phone use
Ok its bad but I do tend to see it as a revenue earner like these cops are told to get out there and meet a target.
I don't drive myself but I travel in cars every day to and from work at rush hour in a city. So I know all about traffic, inconvenience and so forth.
Ok that's cool, but it's not the same as being behind the wheel, trust me. You feel the frustration more, as you have to make all the decisions.
Marco.
Ok that's cool, but it's not the same as being behind the wheel, trust me. You feel the frustration more, as you have to make all the decisions.
Marco.
Of course it is magnified if you are the driver, completely agree. But I'm not so dense as to not already have appreciated that. Ultimately in principle it's a the difference between having freedom of choice as much as possible within reason and having loads of extra laws to try and ensure society functions as efficiently as possible. The second option appeals to me less.
Love the Sweeny, John Thaw was gritty in that.
Why's everyone missing out the 'e'? Has it become fashionable?;)
Anyway, yes, it was one of the best shows ever to grace a TV screen!
Marco.
It was Macca Sir!
U-boat strikes again :D
Pigmy Pony
02-05-2019, 20:36
Taking another slant on this how are the number of police officers in service going to enforce 100% concentration on the road?
I wonder what percentage of accidents are caused by mobile phone use. Everything is a distraction including music in the car or chatting to others. Kids in the car could be as distracting as mobile phone use
Ok its bad but I do tend to see it as a revenue earner like these cops are told to get out there and meet a target.
A positive move toward safer roads would be to force parents to ferry their precious cargoes in little "city cars". In the same way that I know I would ride more cautiously if I wasn't wearing a crash helmet, these parents might be more considerate and careful in their driving habits if the safety of their offspring was at stake.
Also, a smaller car (with a correspondingly small interior) would bring their kiddies into slapping range, so they are less likely to be a distraction :)
Nice to see a decline in the use of "Baby on board" stickers, I used to get a bit miffed when sometimes a car sporting a sticker was being driven like a bat out of hell, with no kids on board. So it was ok to drive like a total spaz when their kids were safely elsewhere, and bollocks to the rest of us.
Ninanina
02-05-2019, 20:42
Easy picking for the old bill , and money to be made , Try catching real criminals , What cost is involved hiring a dd bus and all the plod ? :hmm:
My thoughts exactly.....
I was always getting pulled over for not wearing my seat belt, them in their £70k BMW's.... go catch real criminals and leave me alone...
Even buses are too good for them...in my opinion...
I have some very good reasons why I have no time for them.. but don't get me going on that one because you wouldn't believe me if I told you the reasons..;)
Pigmy Pony
02-05-2019, 20:54
My thoughts exactly.....
I was always getting pulled over for not wearing my seat belt, them in their £70k BMW's.... go catch real criminals and leave me alone...
Even buses are too good for them...in my opinion...
I have some very good reasons why I have no time for them.. but don't get me going on that one because you wouldn't believe me if I told you the reasons..;)
Oh now, you can't leave it like that, you have to tell us!
Ninanina
02-05-2019, 21:25
Oh now, you can't leave it like that, you have to tell us!
It's a long story Steve... and nobody would believe me anyway... ;)
Pigmy Pony
02-05-2019, 21:55
Apparently you are themosthonestpersonIwillevermeet, so I'm prepared to believe you, no matter how mental it is :)
mad-moon
02-05-2019, 21:57
Yup, the latter are among the biggest idiots on the road, especially the mindless bints on 'school runs'!!:doh::guns:
And the stupid cows can can never park them properly either!
One law I'd introduce is to ban the use of 4x4s in town centres during rush hour, and most importantly ban anyone who doesn't NEED what is ostensibly an an off-road vehicle, from buying one in the the first place!!! You'd need proof of a valid reason for owning one, such as living in a remote rural area, or on a farm, before being allowed to own a 4x4.
'Feeling safe', I'm afraid, isn't a good enough reason for owning one, especially when said 'feeling of safety' leads to unbridled arrogance and selfishness on the road, and thinking along the lines of 'I'm high up inside my nice big 'bus', so can do what I like'.
No, you fucking can't! Boils my piss, so it does....
<Rant over>;)
Marco.
perhaps they should drive something like this...
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/3246/wffp.jpg
or maybe one of these....
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9c/76/a4/9c76a4f91fad88f416fd93634ceed80f.jpg
Ninanina
02-05-2019, 22:38
Apparently you are themosthonestpersonIwillevermeet, so I'm prepared to believe you, no matter how mental it is :)
Well I certainly am just that... honest....
You asked for it so here we go..:
For years I never wore a seat belt, don't ask, I've been a bit of a rebel in my time I guess... I wear one now...
Those lovely cop peeps were always pulling me over for no seat belt as if they've got nothing else better to do... round here, and probably elsewhere, if you have someone break into your home they don't want to know but pulling someone over for not wearing a seat belt is just too easy point scoring for them... like I said don't get me going on it :doh:
Now.... I belonged to a particular boat club and there was a chap that used to use the club car park who visited the pub across the road every single evening and everytime I saw him try to get back into his car after a few bevvies (oh that's me!!) he just couldn't manage it... I have never seen such a paralytic person attempting to get back into a car to drive home... seriously he could hardly stand up let alone find the car door key hole.... to me it was like a loaded gun just waiting for somebody to be badly injured, or killed, by this guy....it really was that bad...
I'm not one for 'reporting' stuff to the police but I thought it my duty to report this guy to them, so I did on numerous occasions... but everyday I continued to see him climb into his car totally loaded and definitely not capable of driving at all let alone safely..
So on one of my frequent seat belt 'pull overs' the said cop couldn't work out why I was so rude to him.... I'm not a rude person at all, only with these peeps... so after pointing out to him that while he'd pulled me over 'why doesn't he just check my tyre condition' that way it'd make it worth his while pulling me up... they'd score a few extra points that way.... as I'm sure a couple of my tyres probably wouldn't pass inspection at the time...
My answer to him about my rudeness to him was to explain that I'd reported this guy many many times and they did nothing about it.... useless... now this is the bit that I don't expect you to believe... his answer to me, and I quote..."the next time you see this guy as drunk as a skunk getting into his car... follow him and call us while you are tailing him and we will "intervene".... so they wanted me to do their job for them.... I kindly pointed out that I didn't have a 'hands free' mobile at that time and they'd probably pull me over again for using my mobile while driving...
Seriously you couldn't make it up could you ?
I've had one other 'experience' of the lovely cops and that involved Colin having £1K fraudulently removed from his bank account and, again they were totally useless... I could explain but I'm going off to cool off now....
mad-moon
02-05-2019, 22:56
Well I certainly am just that... honest....
You asked for it so here we go..:
For years I never wore a seat belt, don't ask, I've been a bit of a rebel in my time I guess... I wear one now...
Those lovely cop peeps were always pulling me over for no seat belt as if they've got nothing else better to do... round here, and probably elsewhere, if you have someone break into your home they don't want to know but pulling someone over for not wearing a seat belt is just too easy point scoring for them... like I said don't get me going on it :doh:
Now.... I belonged to a particular boat club and there was a chap that used to use the club car park who visited the pub across the road every single evening and everytime I saw him try to get back into his car after a few bevvies (oh that's me!!) he just couldn't manage it... I have never seen such a paralytic person attempting to get back into a car to drive home... seriously he could hardly stand up let alone find the car door key hole.... to me it was like a loaded gun just waiting for somebody to be badly injured, or killed, by this guy....it really was that bad...
I'm not one for 'reporting' stuff to the police but I thought it my duty to report this guy to them, so I did on numerous occasions... but everyday I continued to see him climb into his car totally loaded and definitely not capable of driving at all let alone safely..
So on one of my frequent seat belt 'pull overs' the said cop couldn't work out why I was so rude to him.... I'm not a rude person at all, only with these peeps... so after pointing out to him that while he'd pulled me over 'why doesn't he just check my tyre condition' that way it'd make it worth his while pulling me up... they'd score a few extra points that way.... as I'm sure a couple of my tyres probably wouldn't pass inspection at the time...
My answer to him about my rudeness to him was to explain that I'd reported this guy many many times and they did nothing about it.... useless... now this is the bit that I don't expect you to believe... his answer to me, and I quote..."the next time you see this guy as drunk as a skunk getting into his car... follow him and call us while you are tailing him and we will "intervene".... so they wanted me to do their job for them.... I kindly pointed out that I didn't have a 'hands free' mobile at that time and they'd probably pull me over again for using my mobile while driving...
Seriously you couldn't make it up could you ?
I've had one other 'experience' of the lovely cops and that involved Colin having £1K fraudulently removed from his bank account and, again they were totally useless... I could explain but I'm going off to cool off now....
perhaps this will cheer you up a bit Bev...My pal Mick...who I worked with in a small garage, was out one day picking parts up and he didn't wear his seatbelt...He was pulled by a cop and was questioned about not wearing a seat belt, to which he replied..yeah work in a garage and I'm in amd out of cars all day, sorry just forgot...The lady traffic cop wasn't wearing it and gave him a ticket....Now my mate Mick was a doorman at a nightclub in Newcastle 3 nights a week...and this particular night...a group of 30 or so women turned up at the club....and he spotted...guess who...put the traffic cop who ticketed him for no belt..he asked her to step out of the queue and let the rest of the girls in...he then said to her...you don't recognize me do you?....she said no, should I...Mick replied 3 days ago you gave me a ticket for no seatbelt.....just doing my job she said...Mick replied, well I reserve the right to refuse entry to this club and you're not coming in...It was her sisters Hen night...Oh dear....
Ninanina
02-05-2019, 23:19
perhaps this will cheer you up a bit Bev...My pal Mick...who I worked with in a small garage, was out one day picking parts up and he didn't wear his seatbelt...He was pulled by a cop and was questioned about not wearing a seat belt, to which he replied..yeah work in a garage and I'm in amd out of cars all day, sorry just forgot...The lady traffic cop wasn't wearing it and gave him a ticket....Now my mate Mick was a doorman at a nightclub in Newcastle 3 nights a week...and this particular night...a group of 30 or so women turned up at the club....and he spotted...guess who...put the traffic cop who ticketed him for no belt..he asked her to step out of the queue and let the rest of the girls in...he then said to her...you don't recognize me do you?....she said no, should I...Mick replied 3 days ago you gave me a ticket for no seatbelt.....just doing my job she said...Mick replied, well I reserve the right to refuse entry to this club and you're not coming in...It was her sisters Hen night...Oh dear....
Love it Alan... I'm glad Mick got his own back...
Bigandbouncy
03-05-2019, 06:20
Well I certainly am just that... honest....
You asked for it so here we go..:
For years I never wore a seat belt, don't ask, I've been a bit of a rebel in my time I guess... I wear one now...
Those lovely cop peeps were always pulling me over for no seat belt as if they've got nothing else better to do... round here, and probably elsewhere, if you have someone break into your home they don't want to know but pulling someone over for not wearing a seat belt is just too easy point scoring for them... like I said don't get me going on it :doh:
Now.... I belonged to a particular boat club and there was a chap that used to use the club car park who visited the pub across the road every single evening and everytime I saw him try to get back into his car after a few bevvies (oh that's me!!) he just couldn't manage it... I have never seen such a paralytic person attempting to get back into a car to drive home... seriously he could hardly stand up let alone find the car door key hole.... to me it was like a loaded gun just waiting for somebody to be badly injured, or killed, by this guy....it really was that bad...
I'm not one for 'reporting' stuff to the police but I thought it my duty to report this guy to them, so I did on numerous occasions... but everyday I continued to see him climb into his car totally loaded and definitely not capable of driving at all let alone safely..
So on one of my frequent seat belt 'pull overs' the said cop couldn't work out why I was so rude to him.... I'm not a rude person at all, only with these peeps... so after pointing out to him that while he'd pulled me over 'why doesn't he just check my tyre condition' that way it'd make it worth his while pulling me up... they'd score a few extra points that way.... as I'm sure a couple of my tyres probably wouldn't pass inspection at the time...
My answer to him about my rudeness to him was to explain that I'd reported this guy many many times and they did nothing about it.... useless... now this is the bit that I don't expect you to believe... his answer to me, and I quote..."the next time you see this guy as drunk as a skunk getting into his car... follow him and call us while you are tailing him and we will "intervene".... so they wanted me to do their job for them.... I kindly pointed out that I didn't have a 'hands free' mobile at that time and they'd probably pull me over again for using my mobile while driving...
Seriously you couldn't make it up could you ?
I've had one other 'experience' of the lovely cops and that involved Colin having £1K fraudulently removed from his bank account and, again they were totally useless... I could explain but I'm going off to cool off now....
OMG you couldn’t make that up! I can’t believe the cops were harassing you for only repeatedly breaking the law in an un-roadworthy car. That’s shocking. No wonder you have an axe to grind.
I can’t understand either why the cops wouldn’t have time to sit outside your boat club and stake it out for hours to catch a different type of law breaker? I would contact your MP.
Police set to tackle kids speeding and texting on their skateboards
http://i68.tinypic.com/fq3y0.jpg
Pigmy Pony
03-05-2019, 06:53
Well done to Alan's mate Mick for recognising the bint-bobby, and using his "position of power" to dispense some all-too-rare personal justice!
Bev, I totally believe you about the coppers and their apparent uselessness - it wouldn't surprise me if that drink-driver turned out to be a copper himself! And they will always take the path of least resistance when deciding who to go after. Sorry to hear about Colin's misfortune, no doubt the police found that case to be too much like hard work.
I suspect most of this "inactivity" comes from decisions made by coppers higher up in the pay scale, who decide what makes the most amount of revenue from the least amount of effort.
Bigandbouncy
03-05-2019, 07:04
perhaps this will cheer you up a bit Bev...My pal Mick...who I worked with in a small garage, was out one day picking parts up and he didn't wear his seatbelt...He was pulled by a cop and was questioned about not wearing a seat belt, to which he replied..yeah work in a garage and I'm in amd out of cars all day, sorry just forgot...The lady traffic cop wasn't wearing it and gave him a ticket....Now my mate Mick was a doorman at a nightclub in Newcastle 3 nights a week...and this particular night...a group of 30 or so women turned up at the club....and he spotted...guess who...put the traffic cop who ticketed him for no belt..he asked her to step out of the queue and let the rest of the girls in...he then said to her...you don't recognize me do you?....she said no, should I...Mick replied 3 days ago you gave me a ticket for no seatbelt.....just doing my job she said...Mick replied, well I reserve the right to refuse entry to this club and you're not coming in...It was her sisters Hen night...Oh dear....
Haha, love it. That will teach her to save lives on the roads by doing her job!
I think ‘I just forgot’ should have got him off with that offence. In fact I think the ‘plod’ should replace tickets with ‘sorries’. Perhaps one sorry for a seatbelt and ten sorries for killing someone’s child because your tyres are bald and you can’t stop in time? A bit like a confession box in a church with the ‘Hail Marys’
I’m going to write to my MP and suggest it.
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This poor sod had to track down the CCTV footage himself!
https://www.itv.com/news/london/2019-05-02/shocking-video-shows-car-hitting-cyclist-and-driving-off/
Truly shocking and best wishes to the young man. I cycle along this road quite often..... Worrying !. As a little aside this road as it winds further along is a famous challenge for roadies and is steeper climb than
anything encountered on the tour de France. And yes I have made it to the top. ;)Beware maniac drivers though !
mad-moon
03-05-2019, 09:06
Haha, love it. That will teach her to save lives on the roads by doing her job!
I think ‘I just forgot’ should have got him off with that offence. In fact I think the ‘plod’ should replace tickets with ‘sorries’. Perhaps one sorry for a seatbelt and ten sorries for killing someone’s child because your tyres are bald and you can’t stop in time? A bit like a confession box in a church with the ‘Hail Marys’
I’m going to write to my MP and suggest it.
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I take it you're a copper....or some other sort of do gooder....He just forgot about his seat belt....who's life was she saving??..have you ever heard the phrase...turning the screw??....your going on about baldy tyres now...confusing apples with oranges...and blowing it out of context....well here's another one for you....I parked up in Newcastle and got a ticket...a long time ago...My car was the only car with a ticket on it, because I was parked close to the entrance of a business..I wasn't blocking entry or exit...I approached the copper and asked him why I had been ticketed..and asked him to come and have a look where I was parked and went to guide him by his arm...He told me to take my hand off him, or he would arrest me for assault on a police officer....I put my hands up and left it there...at that time in my life...I was working for a small Garage in Hebburn as a mechanic....and we did do work on cars, that belonged to policemen....one namely a Detective Constable Much., from Hebburn Police Station....I serviced his car and added the cost of the fine of £28.00 to his Bill..
Oh I forgot to add...I wrote to the Chief Constable, which at the time was in Ponteland...explaining to him, what I had done....
A positive move toward safer roads would be to force parents to ferry their precious cargoes in little "city cars". In the same way that I know I would ride more cautiously if I wasn't wearing a crash helmet, these parents might be more considerate and careful in their driving habits if the safety of their offspring was at stake.
Also, a smaller car (with a correspondingly small interior) would bring their kiddies into slapping range, so they are less likely to be a distraction :)
Nice to see a decline in the use of "Baby on board" stickers, I used to get a bit miffed when sometimes a car sporting a sticker was being driven like a bat out of hell, with no kids on board. So it was ok to drive like a total spaz when their kids were safely elsewhere, and bollocks to the rest of us.The Baby on Board sticker is to alert the emergency services that a baby 'might' also be in the car, or in most cases of a bad RTC lying outside the car somewhere.
It's NOT to alert every other driver [emoji6]
The Baby on Board sticker is to alert the emergency services that a baby 'might' also be in the car, or in most cases of a bad RTC lying outside the car somewhere.
It's NOT to alert every other driver [emoji6]
Yes thats correct. Did like that joke though with a guy taking a corner on 2 wheels with a Bastard on Board sticker on the back !
Yes thats correct. Did like that joke though with a guy taking a corner on 2 wheels with a Bastard on Board sticker on the back !Classic [emoji23]
MikeMusic
03-05-2019, 10:41
This poor sod had to track down the CCTV footage himself!
https://www.itv.com/news/london/2019-05-02/shocking-video-shows-car-hitting-cyclist-and-driving-off/
Thanks fuzz.
That's a really bad one. They should have been all over that
Bigandbouncy
03-05-2019, 11:21
I take it you're a copper....or some other sort of do gooder....He just forgot about his seat belt....who's life was she saving??..have you ever heard the phrase...turning the screw??....your going on about baldy tyres now...confusing apples with oranges...and blowing it out of context....well here's another one for you....I parked up in Newcastle and got a ticket...a long time ago...My car was the only car with a ticket on it, because I was parked close to the entrance of a business..I wasn't blocking entry or exit...I approached the copper and asked him why I had been ticketed..and asked him to come and have a look where I was parked and went to guide him by his arm...He told me to take my hand off him, or he would arrest me for assault on a police officer....I put my hands up and left it there...at that time in my life...I was working for a small Garage in Hebburn as a mechanic....and we did do work on cars, that belonged to policemen....one namely a Detective Constable Much., from Hebburn Police Station....I serviced his car and added the cost of the fine of £28.00 to his Bill..
Oh I forgot to add...I wrote to the Chief Constable, which at the time was in Ponteland...explaining to him, what I had done....
Yes, you’ve got me. I’m a do gooder.
I like your story about you fraudulently adding money onto the bill of a member of the public who had put their trust in you, in order to take revenge against someone who worked for the same organisation. Then writing to the head of the organisation and telling them you had committed the fraud.
How long have you been telling that one in the pub?
Life really is too short to hold grudges. Just chill out and listen to some music.
OMG you couldn’t make that up! I can’t believe the cops were harassing you for only repeatedly breaking the law in an un-roadworthy car. That’s shocking. No wonder you have an axe to grind.
I can’t understand either why the cops wouldn’t have time to sit outside your boat club and stake it out for hours to catch a different type of law breaker? I would contact your MP.
Very well said.
It terrifies me how many people think only other people should be penalised for breaking the law or that only laws they agree with apply to them.
This is not aimed at anyone in particular, but please remember others do have opinions that may not be your opinions. Not saying anyone has crossed line but we could be heading that way..
Ta
Very well said.
It terrifies me how many people think that only laws they agree with apply to them.
That's pretty much the principle I work on. Politicians make the laws and I've no respect for them and no faith in their ability to make sensible laws. Rather trust my own judgment in that regard.
That's pretty much the principle I work on. Politicians make the laws and I've no respect for them and no faith in their ability to make sensible laws. Rather trust my own judgment in that regard.
So therefore you must trust others to use their judgement too?
Including those who drive drunk, use mobile phones whilst driving and having bald tyres.
The main purpose of laws are to protect the majority from the minority, if everybody was allowed to simply use THEIR judgement we have something called anarchy
The Baby on Board sticker is to alert the emergency services that a baby 'might' also be in the car, or in most cases of a bad RTC lying outside the car somewhere.
It's NOT to alert every other driver [emoji6]
I think that may have been the original intended purpose.
Sadly theses days it advertises that despite the best efforts of the laws of nature and against Mr Darwin's theory, some mouth breathing knuckle dragger and his cousin have managed to reproduce and advertise this fact on the back of their Vauxhall Zafira
Actually it wasnt. It was just to warn other drivers of a baby in car and hopefully to curb their tailgating etc.
I prefer my interpretation lol
I think that may have been the original intended purpose.
Sadly theses days it advertises that despite the best efforts of the laws of nature and against Mr Darwin's theory, some mouth breathing knuckle dragger and his cousin have managed to reproduce and advertise this fact on the back of their Vauxhall Zafira
:lolsign:
With the result of further tainting the gene pool....
Mongrels breeding mongrels, I tells ya!;)
Marco.
So therefore you must trust others to use their judgement too?
Including those who drive drunk, use mobile phones whilst driving and having bald tyres.
The main purpose of laws are to protect the majority from the minority, if everybody was allowed to simply use THEIR judgement we have something called anarchy
I'm not advocating that everyone use their own judgement. That would need to be addressed on an individual basis.
walpurgis
03-05-2019, 16:00
:lolsign:
With the result of further tainting the gene pool....
Mongrels breeding mongrels, I tells ya!;)
Marco.
I too read Eysenck.
I'm not advocating that everyone use their own judgement. That would need to be addressed on an individual basis.
The quote
Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools comes to mind there, although who is to say who is wise?
I'm not advocating that everyone use their own judgement. That would need to be addressed on an individual basis.
But who decides on whose judgement is good?
Why do you think your judgement is better that of others?
Not being argumentative just a genuine question.
Take speed as an example, you and I may have very different ideas of a safe speed for a given road, whose judgement is right?
You and I very probably perfectly fit and safe people to carry a knife, but that doesn't mean everybody is and who is the right person to decide who is or isn't a fit person to do so?
OMG you couldn’t make that up! I can’t believe the cops were harassing you for only repeatedly breaking the law in an un-roadworthy car. That’s shocking. No wonder you have an axe to grind.
I can’t understand either why the cops wouldn’t have time to sit outside your boat club and stake it out for hours to catch a different type of law breaker? I would contact your MP.
I would too, but he'll probably be out with the judge, taking a 'golden shower' at the local massage parlour, and be otherwise occupied having his diapered-butt spanked, while dressed as an adult baby, and the cops will be too busy snorting Charlie that they've mugged off the local drug dealer, to 'stake out' anything but a Big Mac and fries.
It's the world we live in, innit?
Marco.
walpurgis
03-05-2019, 17:17
Perhaps anyone who has to ask who should be making judgements is not qualified to decide who this should be. ;)
Ninanina
03-05-2019, 17:33
I'm normally law abiding, of course I am, but when money was tight the condition of my car tyres was not the most important thing to me, eating was more so... ;)
To be honest the tyres were not 'bald' as some have suggested but they weren't 100% either but probably could have passed the MOT at the time
However I think being stopped consistently for not wearing a seat belt when there was a paralytic, and potential killer, driving about the place is just nonsensical to me. Who was I going to kill by not wearing a seat belt? probably nobody, but someone that was as drunk as this guy was is totally different, for all I know he could well have injured or killed someone
I won't be drawn into discussing law breaking as I'm sure we've all done it at some point in our lives and I'm not perfect either
However I think being stopped consistently for not wearing a seat belt when there was a paralytic, and potential killer, driving about the place is just nonsensical to me.
Me too, but he was probably an off-duty cop, and so they were protecting their own! Wot - Police corruption?:eek: Never...;)
Marco.
But who decides on whose judgement is good?
Why do you think your judgement is better that of others?
Not being argumentative just a genuine question.
Take speed as an example, you and I may have very different ideas of a safe speed for a given road, whose judgement is right?
You and I very probably perfectly fit and safe people to carry a knife, but that doesn't mean everybody is and who is the right person to decide who is or isn't a fit person to do so?
I don't think my judgement is better than others. I just reckon it is good enough. I can't speak for anyone else.
Aside from that I think it is wrong to assume that by making something illegal it will stop people from doing it. That clearly doesn't work even for stuff that reasonable people would not do anyway -murder, theft, robbery, and so on happen all the time even though they are illegal.
Seems to me if you want to prevent people doing certain things making them illegal is futile. Far more effective to indirectly engineer the situation so they don't want or need to do those things. But politics is full of lawyers and lawyers are always keen on having more laws.
walpurgis
03-05-2019, 17:45
I won't be drawn into discussing law breaking as I'm sure we've all done it at some point in our lives and I'm not perfect either
The law, rules and authority are for other people in my book, I never signed up when I was born and decline to be opted in!
That said, being a decent, sensible and honest person, I don't do things that bother others anyway.
Ninanina
03-05-2019, 17:46
I must admit I'd not thought about the drunk being an off-duty cop.. you might be onto something there.. ;)
Ninanina
03-05-2019, 17:48
I'm not sure about the first bit Geoff but I totally agree with the second bit... as long as what you do doesn't offend others that's fine by me..
I must admit I'd not thought about the drunk being an off-duty cop.. you might be onto something there.. ;)
Or someone else in some way considered as 'important'....
Most of these 'institutions', Bev, when you scratch below the surface, are rotten to the core. You have to be able to think outside the box and grasp WHOM they are *really* designed to protect! Answer: the establishment. Ultimately, certainly not you or I.
Problem is, most folks refuse to entertain that notion, as the thought is too uncomfortable, so would rather bury their heads in the sand and live in la-la land...:rolleyes:
Btw, that doesn't mean that there aren't some very good (and also dedicated) policemen and women out there, doing a great job to the best of their ability, but ultimately they're just pawns, performing a role within a corrupt system.
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
03-05-2019, 18:25
The Baby on Board sticker is to alert the emergency services that a baby 'might' also be in the car, or in most cases of a bad RTC lying outside the car somewhere.
It's NOT to alert every other driver [emoji6]
Well I did not know that!
We know that people who have these stickers in their car do not remove them when they are travelling sans baby, so if one such driver got into a bad smash, rendering him/her unconscious or worse, how much time will the emergency services devote to searching the crash site for this baby? I imagine there'll be relief all round when they eventually find that the object of their fruitless search was actually enjoying a nice rusk at nan's all along.
I'm normally law abiding, of course I am, but when money was tight the condition of my car tyres was not the most important thing to me, eating was more so... ;)
To be honest the tyres were not 'bald' as some have suggested but they weren't 100% either but probably could have passed the MOT at the time
However I think being stopped consistently for not wearing a seat belt when there was a paralytic, and potential killer, driving about the place is just nonsensical to me. Who was I going to kill by not wearing a seat belt? probably nobody, but someone that was as drunk as this guy was is totally different, for all I know he could well have injured or killed someone
I won't be drawn into discussing law breaking as I'm sure we've all done it at some point in our lives and I'm not perfect either
It's also possible that the drink driver wasn't caught because police were too busy dealing with a crash where a driver with defective tyres had been unable to stop, crashed and gone through the windscreen, then having to go and inform the next of kin, you might be surprised at the resources taken up by that kind of thing.
But of course not wearing a seat belt isn't at all selfish is it?
It's only you that gets hurt.
Pigmy Pony
03-05-2019, 18:38
I think that may have been the original intended purpose.
Sadly theses days it advertises that despite the best efforts of the laws of nature and against Mr Darwin's theory, some mouth breathing knuckle dragger and his cousin have managed to reproduce and advertise this fact on the back of their Vauxhall Zafira
At least the signs were kept quite small. What the new parents really wanted was a sign that said "Yay! It's official! He's not firing blanks and I'm not barren! We've run out of friends and family to tell, so we thought we'd put this information out to a wider audience. We've got pictures, just pomp your horn if you want to see them and we'll pull in at the next layby :)", but it covered the entire rear window, and that wouldn't be good for road safety.
Pigmy Pony
03-05-2019, 18:46
I'm normally law abiding, of course I am, but when money was tight the condition of my car tyres was not the most important thing to me, eating was more so... ;)
To be honest the tyres were not 'bald' as some have suggested but they weren't 100% either but probably could have passed the MOT at the time
However I think being stopped consistently for not wearing a seat belt when there was a paralytic, and potential killer, driving about the place is just nonsensical to me. Who was I going to kill by not wearing a seat belt? probably nobody, but someone that was as drunk as this guy was is totally different, for all I know he could well have injured or killed someone
I won't be drawn into discussing law breaking as I'm sure we've all done it at some point in our lives and I'm not perfect either
I break the law most Saturdays, and when I wake up on Sunday I'm back to my old 'model citizen' self :D
Pigmy Pony
03-05-2019, 18:54
The law, rules and authority are for other people in my book, I never signed up when I was born and decline to be opted in!
That said, being a decent, sensible and honest person, I don't do things that bother others anyway.
:exactly: Spot on, my view, summed up perfectly. 10/10. With a gold star. Did I mention that I agree 100%?
Pigmy Pony
03-05-2019, 19:02
I must admit I'd not thought about the drunk being an off-duty cop.. you might be onto something there.. ;)
Oi! I said it first! :D That Marco is such a copy cat! :D When I became self employed I thought I'd left behind people who would nick my ideas to get in with the boss. Wrong again!
Bigandbouncy
03-05-2019, 19:06
Me too, but he was probably an off-duty cop, and so they were protecting their own! Wot - Police corruption?:eek: Never...;)
Marco.
‘probably an off duty cop’?
The statistic probability of it being a police officer and an example of corruption is finite. The probability is that the poster fell out with someone at the boat club and wanted to get him stopped for drink driving, but didn’t want done for her own infractions, such as the unwillingness to wear a seatbelt and use road legal tyres is much higher.
The police were happy to act on it if she rang them when he was in the act of doing it. She states that she didn’t have a ‘hands free kit’. The likelihood is that she did, as they have been supplied with phones long before the legislation came in in 2003 (i.e. a hands free ear piece) that we’re perfectly legal to use until the new legislation came in around 2017 which she could have used to assist the police in achieving her aims of bring the recidivist during driver to justice, if she so wished.
Unfortunately this suggestion of police corruption only goes to fuel the anti police rhetoric.
You need to remember that the majority of police officers would run towards danger to protect your family and the fact that one may have put your nose out of joint, by telling you off for not wearing a seatbelt in 1978 does not alter this.
I think you need to lighten up a bit, Dave! Are you always this much fun?;)
Anyway, I stand by the main thrust of the post you've quoted. And what if you've experienced police corruption, first hand, on more than one occasion, and could wax lyrical about it? Would that simply be fuelling "anti police rhetoric?
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
03-05-2019, 19:12
:sofa: It's all starting to look a bit angry, time for me to go and torment some other threads :)
Bigandbouncy
03-05-2019, 19:13
It's also possible that the drink driver wasn't caught because police were too busy dealing with a crash where a driver with defective tyres had been unable to stop, crashed and gone through the windscreen, then having to go and inform the next of kin, you might be surprised at the resources taken up by that kind of thing.
But of course not wearing a seat belt isn't at all selfish is it?
It's only you that gets hurt.
Good point made, though the rear seat passengers not wearing a seatbelt have in the past caused fatal injuries to front seat passengers and the driver not wearing a seatbelt is less likely to be able to be in a position to control the vehicle and may cause further collisions.
:sofa: It's all starting to look a bit angry, time for me to go and torment some other threads :)
Well everyone was advised:
This is not aimed at anyone in particular, but please remember others do have opinions that may not be your opinions. Not saying anyone has crossed line but we could be heading that way..
Well everyone was advised:And you wonder why I bother.. Well I wonder.. [emoji21]
Bigandbouncy
03-05-2019, 19:23
I think you need to lighten up a bit, Dave! Are you always this much fun?;)
Anyway, I stand by the main thrust of the post you've quoted.
Marco.
I am fun Marco. I have Christmas socks and everything.
Everyone likes to have a go at cops because they may have had a bad experience with one years ago. I’ve long since stopped thinking all lorry drivers are murderers just because Peter Sutcliffe was one.
I regularly work with police officers as part of my role and find them caring and devoted people who are trying their best to keep people safe in the face of adversity
The law, rules and authority are for other people in my book, I never signed up when I was born and decline to be opted in!
That said, being a decent, sensible and honest person, I don't do things that bother others anyway.
Interestingly I didn't sign up to, or opt into, any laws either.
Hypothetically that means you'd have no objection to me murdering your entire family simply because I disagree with your opinion?
Extreme example obviously but we benefit from the protection that laws afford us as well as suffering from the loss of liberties they cause.
It's a balancing act between the two, it may not be perfect but it's better than giving everybody free reign to do whatever they choose because they didn't agree with, sign up to or opt into the rules or laws whether those laws are by statute or just Common decency
I am fun Marco. I have Christmas socks and everything.
Everyone likes to have a go at cops because they may have had a bad experience with one years ago. I’ve long since stopped thinking all lorry drivers are murderers just because Peter Sutcliffe was one.
I regularly work with police officers as part of my role and find them caring and devoted people who are trying their best to keep people safe in the face of adversity
Noted on the former, so maybe show a bit more of your fun side?;)
As for the latter in bold, I said as much in post 96, but that doesn't negate the wider point I was making, which is the unfortunate reality. It's the system that's fundamentally corrupt, and that simply spreads its way down the line.
Marco.
I think you've made some fair points Dave.
walpurgis
03-05-2019, 19:35
Hypothetically that means you'd have no objection to me murdering your entire family simply because I disagree with your opinion?
You missed the point, I said the law was for others. Like murderers for instance.
mad-moon
03-05-2019, 19:56
I am fun Marco. I have Christmas socks and everything.
Everyone likes to have a go at cops because they may have had a bad experience with one years ago. I’ve long since stopped thinking all lorry drivers are murderers just because Peter Sutcliffe was one.
I regularly work with police officers as part of my role and find them caring and devoted people who are trying their best to keep people safe in the face of adversity
My cousin was a copper...just finished his 30....my future son inlaw has just joined the police force....I could tell you a few more tales...but I'll leave it there....I wouldn't like to upset you further....
You missed the point, I said the law was for others. Like murderers for instance.
But what if the murderer thinks like you, they didn't agree to or opt into the law?
Pigmy Pony
03-05-2019, 20:06
My cousin was a copper...just finished his 30....my future son inlaw has just joined the police force....I could tell you a few more tales...but I'll leave it there....I wouldn't like to upset you further....
There are good people and bad people in every walk of life. thing is, if your window cleaner is a complete turd, you may not have your windows cleaned as frequently as the invoice would suggest. When a copper is a toss pot, it impacts people's lives more.
However I do believe the majority of policemen are decent caring people - it's the decision makers higher up the pay scale I wonder about.
My cousin was a copper...just finished his 30....my future son inlaw has just joined the police force....I could tell you a few more tales...but I'll leave it there....I wouldn't like to upset you further....
I think you and I, Alan, are largely on the same page;)
Marco.
However I do believe the majority of policemen are decent caring people - it's the decision makers higher up the pay scale I wonder about.
Indeed, and that's where your problem lies; moreover, who controls them, and so on and so forth, right to the top of the tree, until you reach the *real* corrupt bastards behind everything, known as 'The Elite'! Dig deep enough on the 'net, and all will be revealed - that is if you can handle the truth...!;)
However, your first point is undoubtedly true, but that doesn't alter the bigger picture.
Marco.
Can we just have a think about this conspiracy theory for a minute?
Let's say our drink driver is one of these connected people who are supposedly immune to the law, a call goes into the 999 system about a drink driver, what happens next?
How do this mysterious brotherhood prevent an officer from being dispatched to deal with it?
Are all police call handlers involved?
Is the IT system preprogrammed with the details of all these protected people?
Does a senior officer oversee all several hundred 999 calls in case one of his brethren is involved, even at 3am when all senior officers are in bed?
Is every single beat cop in the country au fait with the name and car registration of every protected person in the country?
Come on somebody explain
Indeed, and that's where your problem lies; moreover, who controls them, and so on and so forth, right to the top of the tree, until you reach the *real* corrupt bastards behind everything, known as 'The Elite'! Dig deep enough on the 'net, and all will be revealed...;)
That said, your first point is also undoubtedly true, but that doesn't alter the bigger picture.
Marco.. Indeed, who is H ?
Lol - Line of Duty rules! Unfortunately, some of it is too close to the truth for comfort....;)
Marco.
Can we just have a think about this conspiracy theory for a minute?
Let's say our drink driver is one of these connected people who are supposedly immune to the law, a call goes into the 999 system about a drink driver, what happens next?
How do this mysterious brotherhood prevent an officer from being dispatched to deal with it?
Are all police call handlers involved?
Is the IT system preprogrammed with the details of all these protected people?
Does a senior officer oversee all several hundred 999 calls in case one of his brethren is involved, even at 3am when all senior officers are in bed?
Is every single beat cop in the country au fait with the name and car registration of every protected person in the country?
Come on somebody explain
Calls going out to the "999 system", or indeed police officers attending a reported incident, doesn't necessarily result in any action being taken. if as you say, you're 'connected';)
In terms of my wider point about 'The Elite', and establishment corruption, consider how Jimmy Saville was able to carry out his paedophile activities for so long, without detection, or rather what had been 'detected' by some for years, but who were silenced and prevented from reporting it?
Answer: Saville was 'connected', and at the highest level.
Then along came Jill Dando, who was determined to expose him and all involved with his activities [right to the TOP of the tree - I'm talking government/Royal Family level], and we all know what happened to her, which poor Barry George ended up taking the wrap for....
The fact is, if you sufficiently piss off the wrong people in this life, you'll eventually succumb to the 'men in grey suits', as indeed also happened to Princess Diana...
I shall say no more, but if you dig DEEP enough into these matters [and its all there if you know where to look], you'll discover stuff that will make your toes curl.
Marco.
Bigandbouncy
03-05-2019, 20:52
Lol - Line of Duty rules! Unfortunately, some of it is too close to the truth for comfort....;)
Marco.
I’m embarrassingly late to the table for Dexter, but wonder if the crime scene people could dispose of some of the worst baddies :)
I don’t know of any cops who would let someone off with drink driving, no matter who it is. Most have families to provide for and prof standards to try and catch them doing it. It’s just not worth losing a pension for anyone else’s stupidity.
A lot has changed since the 90’s and it’s not right to tar modern professionals with the Sins of their retired colleagues.
Now go back to post 1 say that cop
on the bus is a beat cop sick of seeing motorists texting whilst driving (and dealing with the accidents and paperwork it causes) and is sitting on a bus (no cost) to watch them doing it and radioing to a colleague in a marked car behind to stop them and tell them off.
Is that really the worst thing in the world and evidence of a corrupt service protecting the illuminati or some sensible policing that we should all be supporting?
mad-moon
03-05-2019, 20:55
Wish I hadn't started this thread...I only wanted to point out that the police were using public transport to catch drivers using mobile phones whilst driving....one of the more extremely dangerous things to do behind the wheel of a car and I'm all for it...A mechanic, who forgot about his belt momentarily, could have been sent on his way with a harsh word in his ear...and a lecture about the dangers of not wearing his seatbelt...which would have averted the events which followed....If I had been parked illegaly, I would have put my hands up and paid the fine, which I have done in the past...but...just because someone wears a police uniform, doesn't mean they are always right..The coppers do the best job they can, with the intructions they have received, however...they are shackled a lot of the time, hands behind their backs, with their own handcuffs...discipline has gone out of the window..very few people fear the police, not even children..Less and less people are taken into courts, as the CPS won't allow it, unless there is an extremely high percentage chance, of getting a prosecution..It's a mad world.
Spot on!:clap:
Fancy discussing the subject of 'fit ups' next?;)
Marco.
Bigandbouncy
03-05-2019, 21:23
Wish I hadn't started this thread...I only wanted to point out that the police were using public transport to catch drivers using mobile phones whilst driving....one of the more extremely dangerous things to do behind the wheel of a car and I'm all for it...A mechanic, who forgot about his belt momentarily, could have been sent on his way with a harsh word in his ear...and a lecture about the dangers of not wearing his seatbelt...which would have averted the events which followed....If I had been parked illegaly, I would have put my hands up and paid the fine, which I have done in the past...but...just because someone wears a police uniform, doesn't mean they are always right..The coppers do the best job they can, with the intructions they have received, however...they are shackled a lot of the time, hands behind their backs, with their own handcuffs...discipline has gone out of the window..very few people fear the police, not even children..Less and less people are taken into courts, as the CPS won't allow it, unless there is an extremely high percentage chance, of getting a prosecution..It's a mad world.
Completely agree with everything you have said there Alan
I think this thread proves one thing, this sort of debate should be done in Person with a beer in hand. Typing stuff doesn’t encourage a good debate :-)
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Bigandbouncy
03-05-2019, 21:27
Spot on!:clap:
Fancy discussing the subject of 'fit ups' next?;)
Marco.
Some coppers recon the type of wire that charges their radios improves the quality of transmission.
My mate places a small foam triangle on top of his radio. He says it improves the ‘top end’
Fun enough ;-)))
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mad-moon
03-05-2019, 21:30
Spot on!:clap:
Fancy discussing the subject of 'fit ups' next?;)
Marco.
I could go on all night....
stairpost
03-05-2019, 21:55
My cousin once worked in a video rental store, she wouldn't let me join without the appropriate ID.
Some coppers recon the type of wire that charges their radios improves the quality of transmission.
My mate places a small foam triangle on top of his radio. He says it improves the ‘top end’
Fun enough ;-)))
Ha - very good!:D
Marco.
mad-moon
03-05-2019, 22:25
My cousin once worked in a video rental store, she wouldn't let me join without the appropriate ID.
I should think not too...
They allowed you into that crossdressers convention though, even without a frock on!:lol:
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
04-05-2019, 06:17
Wish I hadn't started this thread...I only wanted to point out that the police were using public transport to catch drivers using mobile phones whilst driving....one of the more extremely dangerous things to do behind the wheel of a car and I'm all for it...A mechanic, who forgot about his belt momentarily, could have been sent on his way with a harsh word in his ear...and a lecture about the dangers of not wearing his seatbelt...which would have averted the events which followed....If I had been parked illegaly, I would have put my hands up and paid the fine, which I have done in the past...but...just because someone wears a police uniform, doesn't mean they are always right..The coppers do the best job they can, with the intructions they have received, however...they are shackled a lot of the time, hands behind their backs, with their own handcuffs...discipline has gone out of the window..very few people fear the police, not even children..Less and less people are taken into courts, as the CPS won't allow it, unless there is an extremely high percentage chance, of getting a prosecution..It's a mad world.
You should have led with that :D
Next up - why are there no firemen playing world class snooker and pool, what with all the practice they get :)
You should have led with that :D
Next up - why are there no firemen playing world class snooker and pool, what with all the practice they get :)
Don't know but one of the current semi finalist in world snooker championship supplements his income with taxi driving. Believe he takes scenic route to press conference !. Lets go.
Pigmy Pony
04-05-2019, 13:00
Don't know but one of the current semi finalist in world snooker championship supplements his income with taxi driving. Believe he takes scenic route to press conference !. Lets go.
Is that the same taxi driver that appeared on 'Mastermind' a few years ago? He had his chair turned round so his back was to Magnus. Only way he could answer the questions.
mad-moon
04-05-2019, 16:45
Are ju talkin to me?
Is that the same taxi driver that appeared on 'Mastermind' a few years ago? He had his chair turned round so his back was to Magnus. Only way he could answer the questions.
Yeah, very good. Bloomin heck magnus thats going back to the year dot I don't know about a few years !. Taxi driver Fred Housego did actually win it back in the early days. dddd.......dd, more D s than M.O.T D
Ninanina
05-05-2019, 17:14
Next up - why are there no firemen playing world class snooker and pool, what with all the practice they get :)
I know a couple of ex firemen and that statement is so true... ;)
They are both some of the richest people I know as well
walpurgis
05-05-2019, 17:32
I know a couple of ex firemen and that statement is so true... ;)
They are both some of the richest people I know as well
I used to train with a couple of firemen. Really strong blokes they were.
I know a couple of ex firemen and that statement is so true... ;)
They are both some of the richest people I know as well
Did you get to handle their hose?:eyebrows:
Marco.
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