WTD - Record cleaning machine

[dickydownes]

Looking to buy a used RCM.

Need to start cleaning my record collection i've amassed over the last few years.

Moth, VPI, Loricraft etc.

Let me know if you have anything available?

Cheers,

Richard.

[take5]

Hi, I have a MOTH that I am going to sell.

I’m in West Lancs.

£240

It is not one of the self assembled versions. Works perfectly.

[alcarmichael]

I have an Okki Nokki in white. Mint condition with little use. Comes with Mo Fi record cleaning brush.

It’s in Hull and I will be travelling west along the M62 in the not too distant future.

[dickydownes]

Hi,

Can you send me some pictures?

I'm new to this board so not sure if you can direct message people or not?

Richard.

[vintagesteve]

Hi,

Can you send me some pictures?

I'm new to this board so not sure if you can direct message people or not?

Richard.

Yes you can, just click on their name (at the top left of posts) and you'll see the option to send a message.

[struth]

Hi,

Can you send me some pictures?

I'm new to this board so not sure if you can direct message people or not?

Richard.

you need one more post for pm's to kick in

[dickydownes]

Ah, ok.

Moth RCM sounds interesting.

As does the Okki Nokki.

Never used either, and I guess they pretty much do the same thing to the same standard? Anyone have experience with either before I commit to buying one?

And how far behind a Loricraft are they in terms of cleaning?

[DiveDeepDog]

On an Ultrasonic track, a member DIY's the Velvet Vortex. The best cleaner I've used by far.

You can see his development here *
https://hifiwigwam.com/forum/topic/127148-homemade-ultrasonic-vinyl-cleaner/

I've cleaned over 200 of my own records , my collection started 40 years ago and I'm hearing more now than I ever have. The little ball of fluff on the end of the needle has disappeared from all the cleaned records, got to be worth it to prevent needle wear.

You won't get one 2nd hand, but they are reasonably priced.

*Apologies for linking to another forum, but we're all friends here:pub:

[scotty38]

My Project RCM stops the little ball of fluff too...

[Audio Al]

Are you aware of how LOUD the Moth and Okki Nokki are :eek:

Some people use ear defender when in use ;)

[Audio Al]

Ah, ok.

Moth RCM sounds interesting.

As does the Okki Nokki.

Never used either, and I guess they pretty much do the same thing to the same standard? Anyone have experience with either before I commit to buying one?

And how far behind a Loricraft are they in terms of cleaning?

Can I say you get what you pay for , The Loricraft is in a different league far superior and whisper quiet in comparison , I have the PRC3 :)

[struth]

used a moth for more than 10 years without issue... yes, its loud when sucking but it does a grand job. Loricraft is a bit fiddlier and much more expensive but quiet. just missed one actually as it sold the other day

[nuff]

Okki Nokki give you a life time guarantee even if bought second hand. I found this out when mine packed up. Excellent customer care.
I'd say they both perform the same. I now have a moth. Wish I kept the Okki Nokki, only because of the size difference.

[WESTLOWER]

On an Ultrasonic track, a member DIY's the Velvet Vortex. The best cleaner I've used by far.

You can see his development here *
https://hifiwigwam.com/forum/topic/127148-homemade-ultrasonic-vinyl-cleaner/

I've cleaned over 200 of my own records , my collection started 40 years ago and I'm hearing more now than I ever have. The little ball of fluff on the end of the needle has disappeared from all the cleaned records, got to be worth it to prevent needle wear.

You won't get one 2nd hand, but they are reasonably priced.

*Apologies for linking to another forum, but we're all friends here:pub:

Oh No ... not the dreaded DIY Ultrasonic thread! :doh: :lol:

[dickydownes]

Is the Loricraft worth twice as much as a Moth/ Okki Nokki?

It certainly looks a little more complicated, but maybe that's deceptive?

[DiveDeepDog]

Oh No ... not the dreaded DIY Ultrasonic thread! :doh: :lol:

I don't know whats dreaded about it. For transparency I know Spider and have visited a few times. It wasn't until I'd seen 'dreaded ultrasonic' clean records that were noisy and skipped play with barely a pop that I put my hand in my own pocket and payed for one.

Just offering the OP an alternative, access to ultrasonic baths is a fairly recent thing at reasonable prices. IMO, the VV is worth consideration?

[dickydownes]

The Ultrasonic bath looks interesting.

Might look into that a bit more as an alternative.

[vintagesteve]

I was that man who was looking to buy a record cleaning machine. Then I realised, unless it's something that you intend to use on a fairly regular basis, there's no point, buy in the service. So - via Keith Monks web site - I found someone local who would clean my whole collection. I agreed a reasonable fee with him and job done. No need to buy a machine, all my records are now perfectly clean. And BTW, KM machines are THE best, that's why the BBC use them.

[WESTLOWER]

I don't know whats dreaded about it. For transparency I know Spider and have visited a few times. It wasn't until I'd seen 'dreaded ultrasonic' clean records that were noisy and skipped play with barely a pop that I put my hand in my own pocket and payed for one.

Just offering the OP an alternative, access to ultrasonic baths is a fairly recent thing at reasonable prices. IMO, the VV is worth consideration?

The idea of trying to put such a contraption together fills me with dread. That’s all.
Yes it’s an alternative, and a valid heads up, as are off the shelf ready made ultrasonic options, albeit at a price.

I went for a reconditioned AudioDesk Systeme Glass, not as expensive as you’d imagine.
Pop the record in the slot push a button and come back to a dry, very clean record. Easy

For me personally, faffing with lots of bits and bobs, drying racks and a whole laboured process, fills me with dread.

Post Script!
Actually looking at Spider's approach takes a lot of my perceived faff out of the process.
So you were correct, they do look a viable option. I was referring to lower DIY threads that basically looked reeky difficult to put together and all a bit flimsy. This refined version spider has worked on
looks great value. The drying thing is still a little off putting, that aside, if i didn't have the AudioDesk Systeme Glass, for that sort of corn i'd have given it a spin (pun intended).

So consider my disparaging words eaten. Spider has taken a fair amount of the DIY out of it.

[Andy831]

I have an Okki Nokki, it works well but there is no way you would be able to listen to records while having a cleaning session the vacuum is too loud.

If you want to see and hear one in action come and have a listen to mine. Bring a couple of mucky ones and I will clean them for you so you can gauge for yourself if it's worth buying a RCM.

I am only over Cock Hill in Hebden. Otherwise know as (Côte d’ Oxenhope Moor)

Andy.

[Mickyricky]

I got one of Spiders ultrasonic cleaners as well. It does what he says it will do cleaning wise , takes a couple of minutes drying time afterwards but hey ho that’s the trade off ..Well worth it !

[dickydownes]

It does look an interesting take on record cleaning.

Does it really take 15 mins. per. record though?

Plus drying time?

[Mickyricky]

No !you can do 2 or 3 at a time with extra spacers takes just under 9 mins for perfection..

[dickydownes]

And do you just air dry them or hoover them?

[Audio Al]

I also have one of Spiders Ultrasonic machines , I use it as a first clean with new and boot sale find LP's then the Loricraft every 5 / 6 plays to keep the vinyl sparkling :)

I use one of these for drying

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Replacement-drying-rack-for-the-record-cleaning-device-washing-machine-NEW/292581734553?hash=item441f3af899:m:mZghleqXUaFqXmL OyqGijDg

[magoorty]

Could someone link to where you can buy one of these 'Spider's Ultrasonic Machines'? Had a quick look at the thread but don't see how. Is it a case of joining the forum and pm-ing him? How much are they?

[Audio Al]

Could someone link to where you can buy one of these 'Spider's Ultrasonic Machines'? Had a quick look at the thread but don't see how. Is it a case of joining the forum and pm-ing him? How much are they?

https://velvetvortex.com

[WESTLOWER]

https://velvetvortex.com

Post Script!
Actually looking at Spider's approach takes a lot of my perceived faff out of the process.
So DiveDeepDog, you were correct, they do look a very viable option.
I was referring to older DIY threads that basically looked bloody difficult to put together and all a bit flimsy.

This refined version spider has worked on looks great value.
The drying thing is still a little off putting, that aside, if i didn't have the AudioDesk Systeme Glass,
for that sort of corn i'd have given it a spin (pun intended).

So consider my disparaging words eaten. Spider has taken a fair amount of the DIY out of it. :clap:

[Spider]

Just a quick note to say the website is still under construction and the online order form does not work yet.
So best to PM me if you are interested.
Other information is all there just order forms not working yet.
Thanks

[Spider]

Website now working
Check it out
www.velvetvortex.com
:)

[pidge22]

Hi I have a Loricraft PRC4 for sale as per the below link if you are still lloking..

https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?64422-For-sale-a-Loricraft-PRC4-Record-cleaning-Machine&highlight=loricraft