Roxy Music

[Haselsh1]

I've just been reinventing the wheel or so it seems by rediscovering the first two Roxy CD's. I have the entire catalogue on CD re-issue but seriously only find the first two worth any merit. The set I have all have cardboard sleeves like LP replicas and a disc over print that looks like a vinyl record. Oh yeah, they are HDCD also but of course I have no HDCD compatibility.

I still find For Your Pleasure their greatest musical legacy though and cannot bring myself to listen to the later 'Ferry almost solo' works. Another great band that slid into dire mediocrity in the 80's.

Also love some of the covers of In Every Dream Home A Heartache that have been done over the years.

Hmm... after an extended listen maybe Siren is quite good also

;)

[Barry]

I have them all and like them all, though I have special affection towards 'Flesh and Blood'.

[Haselsh1]

I don't know what it is about their 80's work that I dislike so much but even Paul Thompson the drummer gave up and left at that point. I think his best work with them was quite possibly Love Is The Drug.

[AJSki2fly]

I've just been reinventing the wheel or so it seems by rediscovering the first two Roxy CD's. I have the entire catalogue on CD re-issue but seriously only find the first two worth any merit. The set I have all have cardboard sleeves like LP replicas and a disc over print that looks like a vinyl record. Oh yeah, they are HDCD also but of course I have no HDCD compatibility.

I still find For Your Pleasure their greatest musical legacy though and cannot bring myself to listen to the later 'Ferry almost solo' works. Another great band that slid into dire mediocrity in the 80's.

Also love some of the covers of In Every Dream Home A Heartache that have been done over the years.

Hmm... after an extended listen maybe Siren is quite good also

;)

If you struggle with their later stuff and like the earlier, then I would investigate Phil Manzaneera and 801 albums, 801 Live is a classsic IMO, most of them the band is incarnations of Roxy (without Ferry).

[struth]

ive got a couple of bryan ferry's solo jazz albums. they are very good. he is very talented

[Clive]

Also love some of the covers of In Every Dream Home A Heartache that have been done over the years.


I love the early stuff. As for In Every Dream Home A Heartache.....the words are fairly unique, there's aren't too many songs about blow-up dolls!

[Haselsh1]

Back in 1973 I was really disappointed that Eno was kicked out of the band for upstaging Ferry (if you believe the media of the time) as I thought he was a large part of what Roxy were back then. His effects on 'Dream Home' were stunning for that time although of course the song helped no end. I remember an interview in NME back in '73 with Brian Eno that didn't paint a very good picture of Bryan Ferry. It said that at that time, Roxy almost stopped as a band due to Ferry's actions. I was happy though with the release of the film 'Velvet Goldmine' as it featured a lot of Eno's and Roxy's music from those early years. It also marked a new friendship between Ferry and Eno after so many years.

[Pigmy Pony]

If I was dumped on a desert island and I could only take one Roxy album, it would have to be "For Your Pleasure" I feel this was their pinnacle, and is up there with Hunky Dory and Electric Ladyland as my all time favourites. So I guess it makes no sense that these days "Avalon" is my most played Roxy effort.

[Haselsh1]

If I was dumped on a desert island and I could only take one Roxy album, it would have to be "For Your Pleasure" I feel this was their pinnacle, and is up there with Hunky Dory and Electric Ladyland as my all time favourites. So I guess it makes no sense that these days "Avalon" is my most played Roxy effort.

Oh so very true Steve. I just cannot listen to that 80's male Sade muzak. For Your Pleasure captures them at their most energetic and watching the videos on YouTube just reinforces that.

[Pigmy Pony]

Oh so very true Steve. I just cannot listen to that 80's male Sade muzak. For Your Pleasure captures them at their most energetic and watching the videos on YouTube just reinforces that.

Shaun, from reading posts from the past few months I'd say we share pretty similar music tastes! Although I have to say that my Audion 300b/Zu speakers combination does a decent job of Deadmau5 (to my ears anyway), and "One Trick Pony" (4x4=12) is great for 'persuading' unwanted guests to leave early :D

[Barry]

If you want to get rid of unwanted guests, or those who have outstayed their welcome, then just put on 'Phaedra' by Tangerine Dream. It's very effective!

[Ian7633]

If I was dumped on a desert island and I could only take one Roxy album, it would have to be "For Your Pleasure" I feel this was their pinnacle, and is up there with Hunky Dory and Electric Ladyland as my all time favourites. So I guess it makes no sense that these days "Avalon" is my most played Roxy effort.

Definitely agree with your choice Steve. On a slightly different tack and a Ferry solo effort I really rate Another Time Another Place, an album of covers but treated with the Ferry magic.

https://youtu.be/X12ic4D9g40

[Haselsh1]

If you want to get rid of unwanted guests, or those who have outstayed their welcome, then just put on 'Phaedra' by Tangerine Dream. It's very effective!

:lol:

[Haselsh1]

I thought that Phaedra was one of their finest albums

;)

[Pigmy Pony]

If you want to get rid of unwanted guests, or those who have outstayed their welcome, then just put on 'Phaedra' by Tangerine Dream. It's very effective!

I don't think I've heard that. Tangerine Dream is a band that passed me by. But I'll give some a listen when I'm done with the Freddie McGregor stuff I'm streaming at the moment.

[Haselsh1]

Brian Eno 'Thursday Afternoon' is an absolute ambient classic but make sure you are alone when you play it or at least with someone who understands your state of mind.

;)

[Barry]

I thought that Phaedra was one of their finest albums

;)

I didn't say it wasn't. What I did say was playing it is very effective at getting rid of unwanted guests. Another one might be Terry Riley's 'In C' or Stockhausen's 'Stimmung', though I haven't tried those. :D

By the way I do like 'Phaedra' and will often play it at the end of an evening's listening session before I go to bed.

[Barry]

Brian Eno 'Thursday Afternoon' is an absolute ambient classic but make sure you are alone when you play it or at least with someone who understands your state of mind.

;)

I do like his ambient work, but it's not for everyone - I'm sure it would bore the hell out of my partner

[Pigmy Pony]

When I played "My Life in the Bush of Ghosts', Mrs. P certainly wasn't impressed. But then she favours music with singing, and when one such track came on (singer may be Lebanese or something), she said it sounded like a cat being strangled. She feels the same about a Transglobal Underground album I have.

Perhaps the best way to rid yourself of overstayers would be the direct approach - changing into your jammies, then switching off the lights and going to bed should do the trick.

[Barry]

When I played "My Life in the Bush of Ghosts', Mrs. P certainly wasn't impressed.

I have that one as well - and have to say I'm not that impressed. But maybe I should give it another spin.


Perhaps the best way to rid yourself of overstayers would be the direct approach - changing into your jammies, then switching off the lights and going to bed should do the trick.

Well I don't wear 'jammies', and as I have said, I do sometimes play 'Phaedra' before I go to bed.

[Barry]

When I played "My Life in the Bush of Ghosts', Mrs. P certainly wasn't impressed.

I have that one - and have to say I wasn't too impressed either. But maybe I should give it another spin.


Perhaps the best way to rid yourself of overstayers would be the direct approach - changing into your jammies, then switching off the lights and going to bed should do the trick.

Well I don't wear 'jammies', so that would do the trick. :D

[Pigmy Pony]

I have that one - and have to say I wasn't too impressed either. But maybe I should give it another spin.



Well I don't wear 'jammies', so that would do the trick. :D

Playing a dangerous game there Barry - they may see the naked "I'm off to bed" as a come on :eyebrows: Need to know your audience first.

[Joe]

I've just been reinventing the wheel or so it seems by rediscovering the first two Roxy CD's. I have the entire catalogue on CD re-issue but seriously only find the first two worth any merit. The set I have all have cardboard sleeves like LP replicas and a disc over print that looks like a vinyl record. Oh yeah, they are HDCD also but of course I have no HDCD compatibility.

I still find For Your Pleasure their greatest musical legacy though and cannot bring myself to listen to the later 'Ferry almost solo' works. Another great band that slid into dire mediocrity in the 80's.

Also love some of the covers of In Every Dream Home A Heartache that have been done over the years.

Hmm... after an extended listen maybe Siren is quite good also

;)

Siren is where I jumped ship with Roxy Music. I bought Flesh and Blood some time after it was released, but only listened to it a couple of times. For some reason, I always think of Bryan Ferry as the Prince Charles of rock.

[Haselsh1]

Siren is where I jumped ship with Roxy Music. I bought Flesh and Blood some time after it was released, but only listened to it a couple of times. For some reason, I always think of Bryan Ferry as the Prince Charles of rock.

LOL that is such a funny comment to those of us who were there. It was so sad to see bands such as Roxy Music, Genesis, Status Quo and quite a few others turn into 80's drivel, quite an embarrassment ! Regarding Roxy, I guess that Siren is indeed a good album with some still classic drumming by Paul Thompson before he got pissed off and quit. There are so many good tracks on that album but like Joe, I cannot go further than that and would rather take my chances with a Max Bygraves album.

[Haselsh1]

Regarding Phaedra, I love it because I think it was their first album with sequencers. Gotta love analogue sequencing.

;)

[JimK]

Phaedra is good stuff.

I also really like the b side of Roxy's Love Is The Drug single, a track called Sultanesque. Give it a listen if you've never heard it. In fact I'm going to get dig it out now and give it a spin

[The Black Adder]

For your pleasure is my favorite roxy album... It's got some seriously good tracks.

I got to know this album in the early 90s.

Simply brilliant.

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[Minstrel SE]

I never really got into them and I tend to think they are overrated. I dont warm to Ferry (hes a raving Tory for a start) and thats important when considering a band. Avalon and that later stuff is just soppy drivel in my opinion. I picked up the greatest hits and had to get rid of it because of all the soppy drivel. It was only a quid on vinyl and it didnt change my opinion

The better tracks didnt save it...I wasnt having that in my collection. Eno was the driving force was he not. I just think there is better music out there. Its one of those bands where I dont even want to give them a chance now.

[The Black Adder]

I can agree on part of that. Eno did make them. Their first album and for your pleasure were the best IMO.

I never got in to ferry's white suit indulgence and romanticism. I always thought it was a bit naff... A bit too theatrical and cheesy sophistication. It seemed like it was for the city bankers to quaff glasses of pink champagne too in their chrome and black Ash River side flats. Lol



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[Barry]

I think Ferry's 'These Foolish Things' is an excellent LP.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51FECbDRVWL.jpg

[Haselsh1]

I so have to agree with Martin and Josie's comments as for me it was stunningly new with Brian Eno doing his stuff on tracks like 'In every dream home a heartache' and I was only 14 at the time so clearly influenced. The album 'Stranded' is obviously missing Eno's input and influence and the rest go downhill rapidly from there. For me personally their worst output was 'Flesh and Blood' but others that followed were probably just as bad. Even their reunion concert had the synth player apparently triggering samples of Brian Eno's solos from his VCS3 according to the music media of the time but by the album 'Avalon' I had become engrossed in other types of music that sounded way more exciting than an album of Max Bygrave classics.

[Pigmy Pony]

For your pleasure is my favorite roxy album... It's got some seriously good tracks.

I got to know this album in the early 90s.

Simply brilliant.

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+1. Their finest by some margin IMO.

[Pigmy Pony]

I never really got into them and I tend to think they are overrated. I dont warm to Ferry (hes a raving Tory for a start) and thats important when considering a band. Avalon and that later stuff is just soppy drivel in my opinion. I picked up the greatest hits and had to get rid of it because of all the soppy drivel. It was only a quid on vinyl and it didnt change my opinion

The better tracks didnt save it...I wasnt having that in my collection. Eno was the driving force was he not. I just think there is better music out there. Its one of those bands where I dont even want to give them a chance now.

That's a shame, Bryan speaks highly of you :D

Their early work is so different (better) to their later stuff, that it must be Ferry's voice that you can't be doing with. Perhaps if you could take a sideways step and listen to something by Phil Manzanera, it might be a step towards appreciating the considerable talents that lay with the rest of the band.

Unless you have already made up your mind, in which case, as you were :)

[Minstrel SE]

Yes I agree there is something there. Every Dream home is a very good track which I have. All downhill since Eno left is the general feeling I have about them. Im not denying there is talent within the band but Ive got to be in a cheesy hyped mood for the later stuff

I read there was a Ferry Eno feud. I dont really get my rocks off on tracks like love is the drug or do the strand. They are ok but there is something missing for me. Maybe I should be giving all the earlier stuff a good listen.

Its become one of those bands where I just cant be arsed sourcing the albums. As I said I dont warm to Ferry hes a bit of a tory smarmball to me. I know he speaks highly of me so I feel a bit bad :)

[Minstrel SE]

Im being over simplistic and this was a good read even from an American perspective.

http://www.thegreatalbums.com/blog/2016/5/21/discog-fever-rating-and-reviewing-every-roxy-music-album

I will have a listen through some albums and see what I make of it

[Pigmy Pony]

Thanks for that Martin, interesting to read an American perspective on Roxy's output. The author seems to like my second and third favourites (Stranded and Avalon), but finds my favourite (For Your Pleasure, by a long way) a bit "out there". Still, be a boring world if we all liked the same.

Warming up the 300b valves to give my vinyl "Stranded" an outing, not played it for a couple of years :)

[Haselsh1]

So true Steve, what would be the point if we all liked the same..? There'd be only one band and one sound. My elder sister absolutely loves Avalon and got to see Ferry in Germany many years back but for some of us it just has to be their early sound pretty much like my love of early Genesis. For Your Pleasure is just so bloody energetic when compared to their later stuff and the Eno influence for me just made the band. It's interesting though to read the media about Roxy and how it would appear that Ferry just got pissed off that Eno was way more popular than he was and so sacked him from the band. I don't wonder in interviews that Eno has such a wry smile.

[Pigmy Pony]

So true Steve, what would be the point if we all liked the same..? There'd be only one band and one sound. My elder sister absolutely loves Avalon and got to see Ferry in Germany many years back but for some of us it just has to be their early sound pretty much like my love of early Genesis. For Your Pleasure is just so bloody energetic when compared to their later stuff and the Eno influence for me just made the band. It's interesting though to read the media about Roxy and how it would appear that Ferry just got pissed off that Eno was way more popular than he was and so sacked him from the band. I don't wonder in interviews that Eno has such a wry smile.

Yeah, and you know if you were on a night out with them, Eno would be a good laugh and interesting, and would end up getting a bit wasted, while Ferry would be too busy trying to smarm his way into your bird's knickers. Or maybe that was just the seventies - they don't like being called birds any more

[AJSki2fly]

Earlier this week I traded some unwanted vinyl and in some of those I got was Roxy's 1st album, a 1st pressing NM copy. I know this and most of the Roxy Music albums pretty well having been a fan of them Phil Manzaneera, 801 and Brian Eno offerings since I was 14.

I remember very well my best friend turning up at my parents house clutching a cassette of Roxy Music 1st album, and enthusiastically saying you have to listen to this. I remember it completely took me by surprise and stunned me, there was nothing like it at the time, way ahead of many that followed. Of course Ferry's distinctive vocals had quite a bit to do with it, but it you listen carefully, not only does Eno contribute a lot, but Andy Mackay(Sax/Oboe), Paul Thompson(Drims), Graham Simpson(Bass), and of course Phil Manzanera(guitar) all contribute greatly to the whole to produce the Roxy sound. If you look at their history the core of the band Ferry, Manzaneera, Mackay and Thompson have remained constant, with a brief outage by Thompson 81-83.

Personally I think all their albums have their individual merits. Yes the first two are more distinct probably due to Eno's influence, however I know some here have criticised the later albums but I think sales figure of them says it all really, every later album I believe has charted high here in the UK. If you listen IMO you can hear Roxy Music evolve over time and become more sophisticated and probably due to having more money they have more time in recording studios to get it right and polished. That is not to say I do not think the first two albums are not great they are, they have an immediacy and punch that is compelling.

I think all the Roxy Music albums are good in their own right.

[Pigmy Pony]

Earlier this week I traded some unwanted vinyl and in some of those I got was Roxy's 1st album, a 1st pressing NM copy. I know this and most of the Roxy Music albums pretty well having been a fan of them Phil Manzaneera, 801 and Brian Eno offerings since I was 14.

I remember very well my best friend turning up at my parents house clutching a cassette of Roxy Music 1st album, and enthusiastically saying you have to listen to this. I remember it completely took me by surprise and stunned me, there was nothing like it at the time, way ahead of many that followed. Of course Ferry's distinctive vocals had quite a bit to do with it, but it you listen carefully, not only does Eno contribute a lot, but Andy Mackay(Sax/Oboe), Paul Thompson(Drims), Graham Simpson(Bass), and of course Phil Manzanera(guitar) all contribute greatly to the whole to produce the Roxy sound. If you look at their history the core of the band Ferry, Manzaneera, Mackay and Thompson have remained constant, with a brief outage by Thompson 81-83.

Personally I think all their albums have their individual merits. Yes the first two are more distinct probably due to Eno's influence, however I know some here have criticised the later albums but I think sales figure of them says it all really, every later album I believe has charted high here in the UK. If you listen IMO you can hear Roxy Music evolve over time and become more sophisticated and probably due to having more money they have more time in recording studios to get it right and polished. That is not to say I do not think the first two albums are not great they are, they have an immediacy and punch that is compelling.

I think all the Roxy Music albums are good in their own right.

I agree, all of Roxy's output has merit, they only fall down a bit when compared to the early stuff. And over the years their sound became more refined and "radio friendly" and I don't mean that in a bad way.

1972 was the year I got started buying records. And that summer gave us "Silver Machine", "School's Out", "All The Young Dudes" and of Course "Virginia Plain". A good year I think. After buying "Virginia Plain", then "Pyjamarama" I skipped buying the first album and went to "For Your Pleasure", and that was it. The album that defined them for me.

[AJSki2fly]

I agree, all of Roxy's output has merit, they only fall down a bit when compared to the early stuff. And over the years their sound became more refined and "radio friendly" and I don't mean that in a bad way.

1972 was the year I got started buying records. And that summer gave us "Silver Machine", "School's Out", "All The Young Dudes" and of Course "Virginia Plain". A good year I think. After buying "Virginia Plain", then "Pyjamarama" I skipped buying the first album and went to "For Your Pleasure", and that was it. The album that defined them for me.

Sorry I have to disagree with ""For Your Pleasure", and that was it. The album that defined them", maybe for yourself, but certainly not for meow others I suspect. Yes "For Your Pleasure" is a stunning album in its own right and probably one of their best outings in some musical respects. However Stranded, Country Life, Manifesto and Flesh + Blood are all extremely good albums and there are many shining tracks on all of them that lots of people associate as being Roxy so I would say that these are probably the more defining albums for most.

Cheers

Adrian

[Barry]

Good post Adrian.

I have all of Roxy Music's output and love them all for various reasons. Certainly their eponymous title was a stunning debut: new, fresh, exciting and different. How much of this was due to Brian Eno's contribution I don't know; but IMO Roxy Music did not 'go downhill' after Eno's departure.

Several of my friends who were unimpressed with Roxy's early career, think 'Avalon' to be a superb album.

It is all a matter of taste - myself I cannot stand Genesis, but that is something for another thread. :sofa:

[Haselsh1]

Yeah, and you know if you were on a night out with them, Eno would be a good laugh and interesting, and would end up getting a bit wasted, while Ferry would be too busy trying to smarm his way into your bird's knickers. Or maybe that was just the seventies - they don't like being called birds any more

:lol: I'll bet that is just so true.

[Haselsh1]

I noticed that Adrian commented on Ferry's distinctive vocals but they were no more distinctive than say David Sylvian ten years or so later or maybe Bowie's vocals at the same time as For Your Pleasure. Even Bolan at that time was remarkable for his voice as he was earlier with John's Children. Eno, at the time of Roxy's inception was doing something that hadn't been heard before. Manzanera played a guitar, Mackay played a sax, Thompson played drums. Eno did what..? He was so new and radical that the story goes they (the band) didn't even know what to put on the album cover so they titled him with 'synthesiser and tapes'. Together of course they were there when it mattered the most. I'm so glad I was too.

[hifinutt]

Earlier this week I traded some unwanted vinyl and in some of those I got was Roxy's 1st album, a 1st pressing NM copy. I know this and most of the Roxy Music albums pretty well having been a fan of them Phil Manzaneera, 801 and Brian Eno offerings since I was 14.

I remember very well my best friend turning up at my parents house clutching a cassette of Roxy Music 1st album, and enthusiastically saying you have to listen to this. I remember it completely took me by surprise and stunned me, there was nothing like it at the time, way ahead of many that followed. Of course Ferry's distinctive vocals had quite a bit to do with it, but it you listen carefully, not only does Eno contribute a lot, but Andy Mackay(Sax/Oboe), Paul Thompson(Drims), Graham Simpson(Bass), and of course Phil Manzanera(guitar) all contribute greatly to the whole to produce the Roxy sound. If you look at their history the core of the band Ferry, Manzaneera, Mackay and Thompson have remained constant, with a brief outage by Thompson 81-83.

Personally I think all their albums have their individual merits. Yes the first two are more distinct probably due to Eno's influence, however I know some here have criticised the later albums but I think sales figure of them says it all really, every later album I believe has charted high here in the UK. If you listen IMO you can hear Roxy Music evolve over time and become more sophisticated and probably due to having more money they have more time in recording studios to get it right and polished. That is not to say I do not think the first two albums are not great they are, they have an immediacy and punch that is compelling.

I think all the Roxy Music albums are good in their own right.

last summer i found myself on the top floor room of a hotel with wonderful views overlooking a wonderful italian lake . next door was a very aged rocker called davy o`list . fascinating to chat to him . he played in roxy music before manzaneera replaced him . interesting chap

[AJSki2fly]

Davy O’List OMG a great musician, he was in the Nice, did some classic albums, if you have not heard any of there stuff have a go. Try The Thoughts of Emerlist Davjack. Emer is from Keith Emerson who hopefully you will know of.

[Minstrel SE]

I stand by my opinion of them. I dip in for a few tracks but as an overall body of work I do think they are overrated.

I think we have bands like that...we may dip in for a few tracks but if you were to ask me to sum up everything I would just think a bit meh. Hard Rain was a reasonable cover but Dylan has done all the work there

Avalon... Dance away...oh yeah just make me cringe really so I absolutely did not like the way they were going. I dont really understand how people like that cheesy pop. I skipped through that BBC programme the other night and Ferry just comes over as a smarmy crooner.

So I do feel right in my opinion...some promise in the early days, some moments but nah...way overrated

[Clive]

Re Roxy Music being overrated; are they rated that highly except by their fans? I'd wager they're not generally thought of as being as famous as The Beatles, Stones, Pink Floyd, ELO, Black Sabbath, ELP, Dire Straits etc. Roxy Music had a few hit singles and Brian Ferry became a bit of a sex object so there are some who recall this but rated highly in general? Maybe they are high up on a list somewhere that I've not seen but most people wouldn't put them in a list of leading groups. I have much of their music and particularly appreciate their early music.

[Spectral Morn]

I kind of feel the best thing about Roxy is the album covers, particularly, For Your Pleasure.

I have most of their music on CD and some on vinyl and I just don't get them. Someday I might, like one day I did get the doors, but I am rapidly running out of time to make that break through, maybe on my death bed I will suddenly rate them. Till then they are a band with some great album cover art, but music wise over rated.

:sofa:

[Joe]

This whole under-or over-rated thing is daft. There's no objective scale of good, better, best for music or any other creative art form, only a critical consensus, which will almost certainly change over time. If something stands the test of time, it's probably amongst the best (eg Mozart, Bach and Beethoven in music, Shakespeare in literature, Rembrandt in painting), but that still doesn't mean that everyone will, or should like it.

[Barry]

This whole under-or over-rated thing is daft. There's no objective scale of good, better, best for music or any other creative art form, only a critical consensus, which will almost certainly change over time. If something stands the test of time, it's probably amongst the best (eg Mozart, Bach and Beethoven in music, Shakespeare in literature, Rembrandt in painting), but that still doesn't mean that everyone will, or should like it.

Excellent post Joe. We all have different tastes, and the world is a better, more interesting place for it.

Roxy Music, like most other rock bands, became more polished, sophisticated and smoother as their career progressed; loosing the 'edge' and what made them exciting and novel in the first place. It happened to others: The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Doors - even to groups such as T-Rex, The Stranglers, and dare I say it, to Genesis and to Pink Floyd.

[Haselsh1]

I stand by my opinion of them. I dip in for a few tracks but as an overall body of work I do think they are overrated.

I think we have bands like that...we may dip in for a few tracks but if you were to ask me to sum up everything I would just think a bit meh. Hard Rain was a reasonable cover but Dylan has done all the work there

Avalon... Dance away...oh yeah just make me cringe really so I absolutely did not like the way they were going. I dont really understand how people like that cheesy pop. I skipped through that BBC programme the other night and Ferry just comes over as a smarmy crooner.

So I do feel right in my opinion...some promise in the early days, some moments but nah...way overrated

I have to agree with you Martin. I watched the show up until it became a cringe. Roxy Music these days would be seen as absolutely ridiculous but at the time they were ground breaking a bit like the Human League I guess ten years or so later. Also, out of nine (?) albums they had one outstanding product. I'd call that overrated.

[Pigmy Pony]

I kind of feel the best thing about Roxy is the album covers, particularly, For Your Pleasure.

I have most of their music on CD and some on vinyl and I just don't get them. Someday I might, like one day I did get the doors, but I am rapidly running out of time to make that break through, maybe on my death bed I will suddenly rate them. Till then they are a band with some great album cover art, but music wise over rated.

:sofa:

Sounds like you may be better off selling your Roxy vinyl and buying something else instead. I'm after a minty copy of their first album, and 'Siren' to complete my collection. Call me :D

[Spectral Morn]

Sounds like you may be better off selling your Roxy vinyl and buying something else instead. I'm after a minty copy of their first album, and 'Siren' to complete my collection. Call me :D

One is a reissue Capital Limited Edition, For Your Pleasure, and an original Avalon. Though I had more, I don't.

[Haselsh1]

I have an anniversary edition of 'For Your Pleasure' for sale on vinyl that has only been played maybe four times.

[Pigmy Pony]

My copy is an early one on Island Records, and in spite of my best efforts is still pretty good nick.

But I am still short of 'Siren' and their first, which I only have on CD. Oh and there's another one, which someone was playing at Cranage last year. Seemed to be an album of Roxy remixes (don't know who by) and I quite liked it. Should have made a note. Anyone any idea what it might be?

[AJSki2fly]

Re Roxy Music being overrated; are they rated that highly except by their fans? I'd wager they're not generally thought of as being as famous as The Beatles, Stones, Pink Floyd, ELO, Black Sabbath, ELP, Dire Straits etc. Roxy Music had a few hit singles and Brian Ferry became a bit of a sex object so there are some who recall this but rated highly in general? Maybe they are high up on a list somewhere that I've not seen but most people wouldn't put them in a list of leading groups. I have much of their music and particularly appreciate their early music.

Clive this is not aimed at you but whole host of posts, basically saying Roxy Music were overrated or no good after their first two albums, and were not a particularly big or important band.

Well I think the facts speak for themselves just look at what they achieved in charts https://www.officialcharts.com/artist/14677/roxy-music/ singles and albums and this is only in the uk.

I’m sorry but whether you like them or not, millions of others did and still do, which speaks for itself.

[Pigmy Pony]

Who cares about ratings anyway? I like what I like, and balls to what "the masses" think.

I'm guessing many members on here are around my age (61) and grew up listening to Roxy's early stuff, loving their innovative quirky style. Some of us will have stayed fans over the following years of "refining" their sound, becoming more radio-friendly, and some will have moved on to other music. I don't believe that their earlier music was necessarily better than what followed, just different.

I have said before though, that even though "For Your Pleasure" is my favourite Roxy album, it's "Avalon" which I play most at the moment.

[Clive]

Clive this is not aimed at you but whole host of posts, basically saying Roxy Music were overrated or no good after their first two albums, and were not a particularly big or important band.

Well I think the facts speak for themselves just look at what they achieved in charts https://www.officialcharts.com/artist/14677/roxy-music/ singles and albums and this is only in the uk.

I’m sorry but whether you like them or not, millions of others did and still do, which speaks for itself.

That's interesting. One No 1 single and four No 1 albums. Album buyers from that era I've always thought more discerning than singles buyers. Like them or not (I do), we can't dispute they were successful, given that they were they deserved it.