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The Vinyl Adventure
02-05-2010, 11:41
A nice chap came into the shop the other day and gave me this

http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww282/hamish_gill/8abc1bf5.jpg

I'm guessing it's worth what I paid for it, but i like it... It actualy works too

http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww282/hamish_gill/8ac263b0.jpg

http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww282/hamish_gill/ed080ffd.jpg

there seems to be a problem with this switch though, it doesn't seem to actually select the speed it points to and for the most part doesn't work at all... For the most part I can only get it to work at 45rpm ...

http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww282/hamish_gill/5b5c8343.jpg

maybe it just needs a clean?

I can get the platter off either, any ideas how I might do that?

twelvebears
02-05-2010, 11:50
Hamish you have a problem dude.

I'm starting to feel rather more sympathetic towards Hanna all of a sudden.... :lolsign:

Rare Bird
02-05-2010, 12:00
Hamish the Styli cos a pretty penny if you can get one.

The Vinyl Adventure
02-05-2010, 12:00
coming from the man with half a tonne of slate in his lounge... means nothing mate ;)
he said he was gonna take it to the skip if i didnt want it... i couldnt have that...

The Vinyl Adventure
02-05-2010, 12:02
Hamish the Styli cos a pretty penny if you can get one.

if you notice in the top picture andre, there is a box fresh styli in a red packet in front of the speaker to the right..
you dont have any idea about the switch do you andre?

twelvebears
02-05-2010, 12:04
coming from the man with half a tonne of slate in his lounge... means nothing mate ;)
he said he was gonna take it to the skip if i didnt want it... i couldnt have that...

Actually it's only a quarter of a tonne... :)

The Vinyl Adventure
02-05-2010, 12:10
please excuse my french but ... fuckin 'el

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/B-O-BANG-AND-OLUFSEN-SP14-STYLUS-/220598007095?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_AudioVisualElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Complet eHifiSystems&hash=item335caa7537#ht_3111wt_939

i got 2 of these buggers i think

Rare Bird
02-05-2010, 12:11
if you notice in the top picture andre, there is a box fresh styli in a red packet in front of the speaker to the right..
you dont have any idea about the switch do you andre?

What switch the one infront of the arm?

DSJR
02-05-2010, 12:13
Right.. the Beogram 1000 which is the turntable bit suffers, as do ALL of these idler/belt hybrid Beogram models, from old vaseline like grease which as gone almost solid.. A darned good strip-down and clean is one option and a CAREFUL spray with a solvent cleaner/lubricant is another, but make sure you don't get lube on the idler or belt.

Another problem is the motor bearings sieze for the same reason and not all motors can be got into. Reluctant dealers used up B&O's stocks of replacements in ten years or so and many otherwise servicable motors were scrapped as replacement was easier and more profitable.

The arm should take an SP14 cartridge if the SP6/7/9 styli cannot be got and good cartridges can be bought cheaper than new styli..

The little internal amp is basic in the extreme, but the caps were of adequate quality in those days so may not need replacing due to bulging or leaks.

The speakers sound very fair when hung on a wall and better than Kans as I remember (:eek:). Beopeople are quite happy to replace the grotty original crossover caps with modern ones and all report improvements to Beovox's of various ages being re-capped.

Don't ditch it. It's a lovely stereo record player and well worth cleaning up/restoring...

The Vinyl Adventure
02-05-2010, 12:14
please excuse my french but ... fuckin 'el

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/B-O-BANG-AND-OLUFSEN-SP14-STYLUS-/220598007095?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_AudioVisualElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Complet eHifiSystems&hash=item335caa7537#ht_3111wt_939

i got 2 of these buggers i think

... oh, they are actually sp6-7, not 14... i cant find any of these on ebay...

DSJR
02-05-2010, 12:15
What switch the one infront of the arm?

Andre, it's the "microlift" cueing lever, which lifts the arm a couple of mm off the record (unlike the others of the era which lifted the stylus half an inch or more).

The Vinyl Adventure
02-05-2010, 12:16
What switch the one infront of the arm?

no, the one in picture 4... did you read the post at all andre ;)

The Vinyl Adventure
02-05-2010, 12:21
Right.. the Beogram 1000 which is the turntable bit suffers, as do ALL of these idler/belt hybrid models, from old vaseline like grease which as gone almost solid.. A darned good strip-down and clean is one option and a CAREFYL spray with a solvent cleaner/lubricant is another, but make sure you don't get lube on the idler or belt.

Another problem is the motor bearings sieze for the same reason and not all motors can be got into. Reluctant dealers used up B&O's stocks of replacements in ten years or so and many otherwise servicable motors were scrapped as replacement was easier and more profitable.

The arm should take an SP14 cartridge if the SP6/7/9 styli cannot be got and good cartridges can be got cheaper than new styli..

The little internal amp is basic in the extreme, but the caps were of adequate quality in those days so may not need replacing due to bulging or leaks.

The speakers sound very fair when hung on a wall and better than Kans as I remember (:eek:). Beopeople are quite happy to replace the grotty original crossover caps with modern ones and all report improvements to Beovox's of verious ages being re-capped.

Don't ditch it. It's a lovely stereo record player and well worth cleaning up/restoring...


(the peq3 is brill by the way)

i wasnt going to ditch it, i like it! ... im going to use it in our dining room i think ... im gonna plug an ipod dock into it too :eyebrows:
i might hae a go at cleaning it then... if i can get into the thing...

Rare Bird
02-05-2010, 12:25
please excuse my french but ... fuckin 'el

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/B-O-BANG-AND-OLUFSEN-SP14-STYLUS-/220598007095?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_AudioVisualElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Complet eHifiSystems&hash=item335caa7537#ht_3111wt_939

i got 2 of these buggers i think

Nay SP7 styli was meant for that deck

Marco
02-05-2010, 12:25
Hi Hamish,


(the peq3 is brill by the way)


I didn't realise you'd ordered one, or did you buy Dave's? Anyway, I told you it was a fab piece of kit! :)

Marco.

Rare Bird
02-05-2010, 12:25
Andre, it's the "microlift" cueing lever, which lifts the arm a couple of mm off the record (unlike the others of the era which lifted the stylus half an inch or more).

yeh i know it is

Rare Bird
02-05-2010, 12:27
no, the one in picture 4... did you read the post at all andre ;)

Speed change 45/33/78!

The Vinyl Adventure
02-05-2010, 12:30
:doh: yeah I know what it does... I was asking if you knew what might be wrong with it...

The Vinyl Adventure
02-05-2010, 12:33
Hi Hamish,



I didn't realise you'd ordered one, or did you buy Dave's? Anyway, I told you it was a fab piece of kit! :)

Marco.

yeah bought dave's and Anthony very kindly lent me quicksilver audio sut... It's all a touch on the quiet side, but it's soundy stinking ... Hannah said yesterday "hey that's a record playing, it sounds as good as it does when you play music on that other thing" (she was talking about the majik) I did Have chuckle at that comment

DSJR
02-05-2010, 12:34
I didn't really need the PEQ3 and although I bought a laptop power supply with the intention of bodging it to work, Hamish's needs were greater than mine ;) Anyway, I now have a Quad 33 to fettle (and apparently they can be made good by today's standards with little effort - he says...).

Regard the Beogram 1500 as a stereo record player and then hopefully be delighted with it if it exceeds this. Service manuals can be got on fleabay and the Beoworld forum is a great source of help with vintage B&O, which can be better than you'd think if you choose right.


Forgive earlier spelling catastrophies, I get like this when knackered...

Rare Bird
02-05-2010, 12:35
:doh: yeah I know what it does... I was asking if you knew what might be wrong with it...

Yeh it wants tipping.

DSJR
02-05-2010, 13:53
Don't be so unkind Andre......... ;)

I love this old stuff and B&O actually made gear worthy of the HiFi tag back then (as they do once again now...)

Rare Bird
02-05-2010, 14:00
Don't be so unkind Andre......... ;)

I love this old stuff and B&O actually made gear worthy of the HiFi tag back then (as they do once again now...)

Ever heard of unreliable beyond belief?

DSJR
02-05-2010, 14:10
I SOLD the bloody things Andre and all that used to go wrong was the grease siezing up and mostly this was easily fixed, although we never stripped the motors out as I remember.

I currently have a beogram 3000 collecting dust while it awaits a trim piece that may happen one day. It works perfectly now the idler and all linkages have been cleaned, the power micro-switch has been re-aligned and the stylus replaced... The cosmetics just need a darned good clean now..

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/DSJR_photos/3000.jpg

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/DSJR_photos/BeogramTechnics.jpg

Rare Bird
02-05-2010, 14:15
Guess it's a case of me having bad luck about 8 times ;)

Rare Bird
02-05-2010, 14:17
I currently have a beogram 3000 collecting dust while it awaits a trim piece that may happen one day.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/DSJR_photos/3000.jpg



Is that the circular aluminium trim that belongs to the smoked perspex switch/selector?

DSJR
02-05-2010, 14:17
Tell me more..... :)


And yes, it is the circular trim I need, as it was stuck on and sometimes comes off over the years as the glue goes off.. I found the counterweight marks do come off to a degree - the 1202/03 don't suffer this as the lid is removed when playing..

Rare Bird
02-05-2010, 14:18
Tell me more..... :)

Id rather forget if you don't mind :lolsign:

Primalsea
02-05-2010, 18:13
Hamish, Hamish, Hamish, You've gotta slow down mate! Before long you'll be seeing bits of hifi when you close your eyes at night!

The Vinyl Adventure
02-05-2010, 18:23
Bah, balls, you haven't seen my camera collection :)
I gotta lot less hifi than I have camera

Primalsea
02-05-2010, 18:37
but for how long?

The Vinyl Adventure
02-05-2010, 18:56
Couple of weeks maybe... :)

The Barbarian
10-02-2014, 09:30
Don't be so unkind Andre......... ;)

I love this old stuff and B&O actually made gear worthy of the HiFi tag back then (as they do once again now...)

Hi Dave
I must stop winding people up in future :eyebrows: Yeh of course i love the older B&O stuff.. I have two '1500's a '1000' & a '1202'.. I was clearing some stuff out the other week & opened a box by mistake looking for mi 'Beolab 5000' amp to stumble upon a '1500'..I thought about this old thread strait away{Good Memory see}..

Here this particular one does not have a cartridge, but i know the others do.. I must stop this Magpie behaviour immediately

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/ELPFAN1968/1500.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/ELPFAN1968/media/1500.jpg.html)

:whistle: