Those Denon Micro Systems

[southall-1998_mk2]

Any good? Thinking about getting one for the spare room.

S.

[Lurch]

Xmas 2017, saw me buying a pair of Dali Zensor5 from the classifieds of hifi choice being sold by a local guy. When I went to ick them up he had them on the end of a Denon all in one midi system which he used to demo them. I was shocked as to how good this little 30wpc lump of plastic sounded. SQ was at worst the equivalent of say a modern budget Cambridge amp (am 10). So provided you put a reasonable pair of speakers on then end of it (QA 2010/20i, Dali Zensor 1 etc) all should be good.
Can't remember if it's in the classifieds here or the WAM but there is a network cd/streaming midi unit with QA 2020i and audioquest SC for £250 which seems pretty fair to me.

[Pigmy Pony]

If that's the ad I'm thinking of, it's Onkyo with Q Acoustics speakers, and some other bits. Looks so good I wanted it myself, even though I have nowhere to put it! The ad is in Private Exhibitions page 5, user name studiohertz. £250 delivered, and it looks like it hasn't sold. Them Q Acoustics speakers look cool.

[Sherwood]

Electronics are unbeatable for price. Not so keen on speakers so would pair with other brand!


Xmas 2017, saw me buying a pair of Dali Zensor5 from the classifieds of hifi choice being sold by a local guy. When I went to ick them up he had them on the end of a Denon all in one midi system which he used to demo them. I was shocked as to how good this little 30wpc lump of plastic sounded. SQ was at worst the equivalent of say a modern budget Cambridge amp (am 10). So provided you put a reasonable pair of speakers on then end of it (QA 2010/20i, Dali Zensor 1 etc) all should be good.
Can't remember if it's in the classifieds here or the WAM but there is a network cd/streaming midi unit with QA 2020i and audioquest SC for £250 which seems pretty fair to me.

[Spectral Morn]

Denon or Onkyo all in ones from say 7 years ago are all pretty good. As said match with a pair of good speakers and these deliever good sound, which is more sins of omission than commission. Want mini separates then the Teac 300 series is very hard to beat.

JVC also once upon a time made nice micro systems as well, but you need to go back to the early 2000s for these. And while I am thinking about it Sony over the years has made some nice micros as well.

[southall-1998_mk2]

Has anyone heard this model? - https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/audio-and-headphones/audio/hifi-systems-and-speakers/denon-dm-41dab-wireless-traditional-hi-fi-system-premium-silver-10164499-pdt.html

S.

[Sherwood]

Had earlier model which was excellent.

Go for different speakers though!


Has anyone heard this model? - https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/audio-and-headphones/audio/hifi-systems-and-speakers/denon-dm-41dab-wireless-traditional-hi-fi-system-premium-silver-10164499-pdt.html

S.

[southall-1998_mk2]

I have mordaunt Short MS10i that should suffice for a while. Had them for years!

S.

[simon g]

I had a couple of Denons; pretty good sound quality (a bit too soft and warm for me) but both mine went wrong fairly quickly (bought new, failed at around 18 months or so).

I now use a TEAC CR H 101, paired with Dali Zensor Micro. SQ from the TEAC is significantly better than the Denon IMO, plus it's quite a flexible bit of kit. The overall sound quality with the Dalis is sensational, especially so given the low price. I could easily live with it as my only system, if such circumstances arose.

[southall-1998_mk2]

I had a couple of Denons; pretty good sound quality (a bit too soft and warm for me) but both mine went wrong fairly quickly (bought new, failed at around 18 months or so).

I now use a TEAC CR H 101, paired with Dali Zensor Micro. SQ from the TEAC is significantly better than the Denon IMO, plus it's quite a flexible bit of kit. The overall sound quality with the Dalis is sensational, especially so given the low price. I could easily live with it as my only system, if such circumstances arose.

Do you mean Dali Pico? I'm guessing they are even smaller then the Zensor 1!

S.

[antonio]

Here's the TEAC, free post from Germany. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TEAC-CR-H101-mikro-cd-receiver-Black-Black/362235453660?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.M BE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20170920101022%26meid%3Dfa4294 1b771b40d8ad33890660db1b5d%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D1 %26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D362235443977%26itm%3D36223545366 0&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109

[simon g]

Do you mean Dali Pico? I'm guessing they are even smaller then the Zensor 1!

S.

Yes, sorry, that's them. Really fun little 'speakers. Remind me somewhat of my original Tablettes, from back in the day. It is amazing what sound can be had from modern, well matched components, for not a great deal of money. Is my multi thousand pound system 25-30 times good as the TEAC/Dali? of course not, to answer my own question.

[RobbieGong]

I'm glad this thread came up as I intend on getting hold of a decent one of these 'silver' Denon systems for my lounge.

Have had the lovely Technics CA10 system for some years and it is very good for it's purpose - https://www.google.com/search?q=technics+ca10+system&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=H-dYrZKwLMb4PM%253A%252C4RPVFtKDgb9mOM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kRMXky3IXLSIZ_FIRsILKo0ciY05w&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiYqai0huHfAhWqUxUIHfWRA3QQ9QEwAHoECAQQB A#imgrc=H-dYrZKwLMb4PM:

The amp with it's VU's is particularly nice.

I too got rid of the original multi speakers and have always used it with Kef Q1's - Looks good and makes a lovely sound.

Only been contemplating the Denon simply for a change of decor in the lounge, from the black CA-10 set up to the silver of the Denon :)

When I do get the Denon, I'll search for some decent bookshelf speakers to pair it with ;)

[willbewill]

Any good? Thinking about getting one for the spare room.

S.I'm using one with a couple of wharfedale diamonds, bought it for TV, but it has made quite a good system in lounge.

TV connection via optical, it also has dab radio, squeezebox duet connection via aux, CD player and USB. Complete with remote.

Sounds very good indeed.

[hifinutt]

Has anyone heard this model? - https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/audio-and-headphones/audio/hifi-systems-and-speakers/denon-dm-41dab-wireless-traditional-hi-fi-system-premium-silver-10164499-pdt.html

S.

i shall be setting up this model for a friend who is changing from his denon 250pma amp and cd player . he will be using it with his old kef speakers and i have no doubt it will be fine , he is not an audiophile and has impaired hearing . also some years back set one up with some wharfdale for a friend and they have not stopped thanking me yet !

i might add the latest one was 179 in richer sounds so currys a bit overpriced even if it includes speakers

[Lawrence001]

One of the Teac ones a few years ago had a VRDS CD player in it, always thought I'd try one if I saw it come up local.

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[MrRadish]

I bought the Denon D-M41DAB very recently as Richer Sounds were selling it for £179 without speakers. It's an excellent unit and has a really good FM tuner, which was my primary reason for buying.

Hooked up to some Proac Tablette 10 as an experiment it has a good sense of rhythm but gets congested in complex tracks compared to the Exposure amp I was using. It sounds fine with simpler music and vocals. It's also on the warm side of neutral, which got rather noticeable at times. Better that than being too lean though, and it helps the system sound good at low levels. I'm still playing with speaker matching.

My Trio KT5550 and NAD 3120 definitely sound better, but they take up more space and the Trio tuner can be hissy by comparison. The Denon also has remote control and presets, which the Trio doesn't. Overall I'm happy I bought it.

[goraman]

This would fit the bill?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/teac-h500i-Reference-Hifi/132909445864?_trkparms=aid%3D333200%26algo%3DCOMP. MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20180409081753%26meid%3D387e2 27053ac41d2b48349a079b87258%26pid%3D100008%26rk%3D 1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D362235453660%26itm%3D132909445 864&_trksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Teac-Reference-600-Hifi-Mini-System-new-in-box/183520901265?hash=item2abab2b891:g:1uwAAOSwJ6Vb4KV i

I have the U.S. version of this CDP and it sounded better than my Music Hall.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/TEAC-CD-H750-from-japan-125/163239026023?hash=item2601cddd67:g:qS4AAOSwB8tbjpm M:rk:1:pf:0
Mine is in black , I use it as a transport to a Tube DAC but really love how the internal Dac sounds on it's own too.
This small CDP is a giant killer.

[Spectral Morn]

Back in the early to mid 90s Onkyo made some beautifully made and sounding micro components. Build quality was like Swiss made stuff. I remember selling these and in no way for the price were they poor cousins to full size similarly priced stuff. The Teac Reference series 300 and 500 kit is excellent, though the 300 series CD player can be a bit unreliable.

In my kitchen I run an Onkyo micro and Proac Super Tablets, very nice sound, works well.

[goraman]

Back in the early to mid 90s Onkyo made some beautifully made and sounding micro components. Build quality was like Swiss made stuff. I remember selling these and in no way for the price were they poor cousins to full size similarly priced stuff. The Teac Reference series 300 and 500 kit is excellent, though the 300 series CD player can be a bit unreliable.

In my kitchen I run an Onkyo micro and Proac Super Tablets, very nice sound, works well.

I can say with absolute certain tee , My Teac CD H750 is truly amazing for it's price. I had a Music Hall CD 25.2 and the Denon sounded so much better,
dac chip? I don't know but it replaced it . I use a tube DAC so the Denon just has transport duty. I know ones and zeros should not make a difference but I still prefer the Teac.
I some times think the DAC chip is a very small component in the over all sound and the over all circuit and filtering has more to do with it. I invite those with more knowledge to enlighten me.

Below are the specs for both.

https://musichallaudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/music-hall-audio-cd25.2-cd-player-manual.pdf

http://audio.teac.com/product/cd-h750/


My DAC http://www.musicdirect.com/documents/pdf/AJDFXTDAC.pdf

[Minstrel SE]

Denon are a good company and their mini units get good reviews. They paired up with Mission making the speakers at one point

I prefer bigger sized separates though. I was dabbling with the Teac range of mini systems and you have to go 300 or 500 series. The older 100 series looked cute but was not really hi fi with a chip amp. Also when the cd player fails they seem harder to service with planned obsolescence based on my limited experience. I would rather stack up some Nad amps and other equipment even if it doesnt look as pretty

The new prices they charged for the original 100 series components were quite shocking really and more a lifestyle system where sound quality is not a priority. I was picking it up at rock bottom, used prices on ebay. Some people still want £650 for the 300 series stack. I think calling it reference is very cheeky marketing though. Those of you with good systems wouldnt call that reference by any stretch of the imagination.

Then again a small Denon unit for a spare room.... plug and go....you could do far worse :)

[Theadmans]

Bought a new Denon DM40 and Q Acoustics 3020 speakers for the mother-in-law's new flat about a year ago.

She hasn't been using it and says it is too complicated (but of course it is not). So I took the whole lot back off her. Stuck it all in a spare room at my house as a second system for when the family are watching crap on TV in the lounge (and I can't listen to my main system).

Have a Raspberry Pi with Wolfson Audio Card feeding a fully modified Caiman SEG (Latest Firmware, Clock Mod, Dorado etc) connected to the Denon's AUX IN.

Actually gives my main Creek / AVI system a run for it's money.

It is warmer and the treble detail from my AVI Neutron IVs is not all there. But - it is not that far off the Creek 50A / Creek 50CD / AVI system.

I have bought some QED XT-25 speaker Cable and QED interconnects for the Denon (which have brightened things up a tad).

Amazing for the £250 quid I spent in a Richer's deal on the Denon DM40 and Q Acoustic 3020 speakers combined.

The mother-in-law has gone back to her Bose CD/Tuner with a built in speaker. The Bose sounds like a glorified clock radio (but she finds it simpler to use).

[goraman]

I had a Denon mini cdp I believe it was in the DCD F100 series, I used it at work. It held up well but sonicly lacked impact, Just didn't impress me.
I don't think it had a remote either .

[antonio]

Where's the OP gone?

[southall-1998_mk2]

Where's the OP gone?

Nowhere!

:lol:

S.

[antonio]

^^^^^^^^^^

Well Shane I didn't know whether your were :dance: or :comatose:

[Jason P]

Had one of the earlier 40s for a bit. Very impressed, stuck a pair of early B&W Matrix floor standers on it and it sounded very good indeed. Even the input from Spotify via my iPhone sounded fine. For casual listening hard to beat, and surprisingly adept at more critical stuff. The CD player was very good too. Built well, easy to use... get one at the right price and it's a no-brainer.

[hifinutt]

set up the dm41 with some kefs this week at a friends house . it replaced a denon 250pma and a denon cd player . beautiful compact package and not a bad sound at all in their system . brilliant for a kitchen or bedroom system