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Have a new preamp coming which has a pretty good built in headphone amp, so thought I’d revisit having a decent set of cans.
Doing more late night movie n music listening, so looked into a good set of headphones that wouldn’t limit the sound of my Pre.
Secondary to listening to the main system, but still wanted something decent.
After a fair bit of reading over on HeadFi the choice (to a novice)seemed to swing between ultra revealing monitor style cans or ones meant more for musicality.
Wanted the latter, so after a bit of humming and hawing plumped for a set of Beyerdynamic Amiron.
https://kenrockwell.com/audio/beyer/amiron/5DSR0533-1200.jpg
Well reviewed over on head-fi, and the sound quality being described was what I was looking for.
https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/beyerdynamic-amiron-home.21982/reviews
Another review that swung it for me here:
https://kenrockwell.com/audio/beyer/amiron.htm
So pretty good then...sorted. :thumbsup:
A question for headphone guru’s (Tony, you there? :))
Is it worth swapping out the cable for something premium?
By all accounts the supplied one is pretty good, but just wondering.
Thanks much.
Lawrence001
29-12-2018, 11:01
From my experience, where a headphone is already supplied with a good quality cable, the main advantage of upgrading (in my case mainly to good value Chinese silver plated copper litz type cables) tends to be a moderate increase in transparency and soundstage.
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Cool, good to know.
Thanks.
shoulda went wireless ;) nice cans those Amirons. not heard them tho
Didn't know they did wireless...damn. :)
aye they do wireless ones too but dearer. ive just got nuraphone wireless hd cans. learning your hearing etc. not for everyone tho
wee tee cee
29-12-2018, 16:14
Mixed feelings Gary....
you might get sonic gains but what is often overlooked is the efforts the big boys make to isolate the cable from your clothing....dome cables can generate awful mechanical noise.
Brian tried my alternative cable on the 650s and came to the same conclusion as me...minimal sonic difference but an awful lot of noise when moving about.
Mind and give them a couple of hundred hours to bed in before making any judgements.
It would be interesting to hear them against the 650s/700s!!!
wee tee cee
29-12-2018, 16:16
Oh bye the way, if you need an extension the Grado is a goodun.....
paulf-2007
29-12-2018, 18:51
A whole new can of worms like vinyl.
I have had my grado 325 for years and swapped the metal cans for walnut ones, not much difference if any. Then a while back I bought a little dot 1+ headphone amp and thought it better but nothing special. Then a couple of weeks ago someone here was looking for a little dot 1+ and Norman came up with one and talked about op amps and valve swapping. Bought mullard cv4014 valves and LT1364 op amp and bingo, best I've heard and as good to listen to as my main kit in a dedicated, treated listening room. Only downside is the foam pads on grado's are like wearing a hair shirt and the ones I have now are not the standard ones but just as uncomfortable. So I wish you luck and hope your combination of phones and amp work for you.
Mixed feelings Gary....
you might get sonic gains but what is often overlooked is the efforts the big boys make to isolate the cable from your clothing....dome cables can generate awful mechanical noise.
Brian tried my alternative cable on the 650s and came to the same conclusion as me...minimal sonic difference but an awful lot of noise when moving about.
Mind and give them a couple of hundred hours to bed in before making any judgements.
It would be interesting to hear them against the 650s/700s!!!
Only heard them playing from my phone, sound good but will know better at the weekend when the new Preamp drops.
From what I’ve read the cable it comes with is plenty good enough.
As you say Tony, won’t make any judgements till they have some time on them.
Welcome to hear them any time mate, be interesting to compare to the Senn’s.
Only heard them playing from my phone, sound good but will know better at the weekend when the new Preamp drops.
From what I’ve read the cable it comes with is plenty good enough.
As you say Tony, won’t make any judgements till they have some time on them.
Welcome to hear them any time mate, be interesting to compare to the Senn’s.
sure you'll like them. get a good rep as top cans
wee tee cee
05-01-2019, 14:35
ive found the senns really need about 200hrs on them to settle down....dare say yours will need quite a bit of time.
dont know if yours have inner foams but my preference is for removal-akin to removing speaker grills,worth experimentation if an option.
remember you have to re calibrate your ears when on the cans-very different to the big eddies flapping your jeans!!!
Have a new preamp coming which has a pretty good built in headphone amp, so thought I’d revisit having a decent set of cans.
Doing more late night movie n music listening, so looked into a good set of headphones that wouldn’t limit the sound of my Pre.
Secondary to listening to the main system, but still wanted something decent.
After a fair bit of reading over on HeadFi the choice (to a novice)seemed to swing between ultra revealing monitor style cans or ones meant more for musicality.
Wanted the latter, so after a bit of humming and hawing plumped for a set of Beyerdynamic Amiron.
https://kenrockwell.com/audio/beyer/amiron/5DSR0533-1200.jpg
Well reviewed over on head-fi, and the sound quality being described was what I was looking for.
https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/beyerdynamic-amiron-home.21982/reviews
Another review that swung it for me here:
https://kenrockwell.com/audio/beyer/amiron.htm
So pretty good then...sorted. :thumbsup:
A question for headphone guru’s (Tony, you there? :))
Is it worth swapping out the cable for something premium?
By all accounts the supplied one is pretty good, but just wondering.
Thanks much.
they look HUGE :ner:
Those headphones will really benefit from a dedicated headphone amp at 250 ohms the little dot III version 2.0 can use 6H30 tubes and with the EF95 vishod tubes , RCA and Mullards it is truly a mind blowing experience for not much money.
I will not listen to a good pair of cans with out a good tube amp.
I have spent lots of money on headphone extensions, I started with the cheap Grado Labs extension, it was ok. I moved up to the DiMarzio Big Red very good cable. For a cable that is to good to be true and you can make it your self . Canare L-4E6S and Amphenol connectors. You can easily make an inexpensive 7 meter cable that is as transparent as my far more expensive Di Marzio.
The Canare is star quad 4x 21 awg with a heavy copper shield, use the shield as ground solder the 2x blue leads for R channel and the 2x white leads for L and now you have a 13 awg. extension. (no micro-phonics)
The Amphenol gold plugs are the easiest to fit and solder and the quality is AAA+. I like them better than Switch craft and Nutrik. A little heat shrink in the right places and now you have something darn nice for cheap.
From my experience, where a headphone is already supplied with a good quality cable, the main advantage of upgrading (in my case mainly to good value Chinese silver plated copper litz type cables) tends to be a moderate increase in transparency and soundstage.
Sent from my BLN-L21 using TapatalkJust have to watch out for noise from the cable during movement if you get a customer cable
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brian2957
06-01-2019, 20:57
they look HUGE :ner:
He's got a big heid :lol:
He's got a big heid [emoji38][emoji23]
Just have to watch out for noise from the cable during movement if you get a customer cable
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go hd blootooth and no cable to worry about.
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