What percentage of reviewers are high as F on crack?

[goraman]

I mean airplanes fly at 9,000ft.
The space station is 254 miles.
The Hubble is 353 miles.
And vacuum tube reviewers make those hights seem like standing on a kitchen step ladder to clean the top of the refrigerator!
There so high there suckin in dark matter!

[Bigman80]

I mean airplanes fly at 9,000ft.
The space station is 254 miles.
The Hubble is 353 miles.
And vacuum tube reviewers make those hights seem like standing on a kitchen step ladder to clean the top of the refrigerator!
There so high there suckin in dark matter!Got an example? Being a Valve fan, I am interested in where this is going!

[goraman]

I have the Genelax B59 ,Tungsol gold pins and standard Tung sols and these reviews could not be more wrong unless hearing them in a Dac has a totally different character .
I decided not to post the review in question as I don't need a law suit.

[User211]

That's a guitar players thread. Of course all good rock'n'roll guitarists are utterly fucked on drugs. It's traditional.

So no issues I can see.:D

[goraman]

The Tung sol Gold pin is voiced the same as the standard reissue but has a little more sparkle at the top .
It is not voiced completely different ,they are the same tube pretty much rolling both right now.

[Wakefield Turntables]

I mean airplanes fly at 9,000ft.
The space station is 254 miles.
The Hubble is 353 miles.
And vacuum tube reviewers make those hights seem like standing on a kitchen step ladder to clean the top of the refrigerator!
There so high there suckin in dark matter!

Just exactly what you saying?

[User211]

Post #3 link removed.

Don't try and use guitar threads for valve reviews.

They are much more interested in how a valve works when it is overloaded to the extreme.

Hi-fi amps operate them with reasonable limits.

How a valve breaks up and it's tone when overloaded is far more interesting to them.

[Macca]

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/okay-whats-up-with-tung-sol-12ax7-gold-pins.206141/

maybe?

[goraman]

The only difference I can see is gold pins and a small plate getter vs. halo getter, gold vs. white lettering.
But there is no huge difference in voicing between these tubes
I'm pretty sure the getter does not re voice a valve.

The B59 is far less dynamic and the whole presentation seems further away and slightly rolled off.
The B59 is like an upgraded Sovtek LPS is my best description.
The Tung sol is fantastic for music with soul, The B59 was made for Diana Krall I will say that.
The tung sol is great for guitars,piano brushes on a snare drum and detailed recordings, not just focused on vocals.

[goraman]

Martin I didn't leave the post for even 5 min. as I could see the reviewer getting mad and sueing me for for my crack comment so I nixed it.
Even though I am sure it was his honest opinion and not under substances. I guess a guitar review would be a different animal but it just seems to me there would not be such a huge difference in tone from the same tube.

[Macca]

Martin I didn't leave the post for even 5 min. as I could see the reviewer getting mad and sueing me for for my crack comment so I nixed it.
Even though I am sure it was his honest opinion and not under substances. I guess a guitar review would be a different animal but it just seems to me there would not be such a huge difference in tone from the same tube.

I agree if they are the same tube just one has gold plated pins it seems unlikely that there is any difference in how they perform regardless of the application. But musicians are just as bad as we are for this sort of 'angels on the head of a pin' stuff. So are a lot of the professional audio people - don't ever ask them about how recording desks sound different. If there's just one there you might get away with a ten minute lecture. If there's two or more they will argue the toss until the booze runs out.

[goraman]

I agree if they are the same tube just one has gold plated pins it seems unlikely that there is any difference in how they perform regardless of the application. But musicians are just as bad as we are for this sort of 'angels on the head of a pin' stuff. So are a lot of the professional audio people - don't ever ask them about how recording desks sound different. If there's just one there you might get away with a ten minute lecture. If there's two or more they will argue the toss until the booze runs out.

The funny thing is just how different the presentation is between the G.L. B59 and Tungsol , I did not expect such a complete difference between 2 12AX7 Russian tubes.
It also really forces you to make a choice, The B59 is so much more laid back and distant, The Tung sol is more like live music in a night club. Sounds more natural to me ,yet not neutral by any means.

The Tung sol is more fun to listen too. More engaging , piano keys just sing more and guitar strings are far more real sounding, bass is snappyer.

[Macca]

The funny thing is just how different the presentation is between the G.L. B59 and Tungsol , I did not expect such a complete difference between 2 12AX7 Russian tubes.
It also really forces you to make a choice, The B59 is so much more laid back and distant, The Tung sol is more like live music in a night club. Sounds more natural to me ,yet not neutral by any means.

The Tung sol is more fun to listen too. More engaging , piano keys just sing more and guitar strings are far more real sounding, bass is snappyer.

I'll take your word for it. I've owned very little valve equipment over the years and I've never tried tube rolling.

But in general I agree with the thread title, I read lots of reviews where I'm thinking 'Really?' about five times per page. I think it's the modern trend for having to be 'enthusiastic' or 'passionate' about stuff. That's for the salesman, not the reviewer. You didn't see that with the old reviewers back in the 1970s. They were jaded and cynical like any good reviewer should be.

[Stratmangler]

Martin I didn't leave the post for even 5 min. as I could see the reviewer getting mad and sueing me for for my crack comment so I nixed it.


I understand the paranoia Jeff, and it's hardly surprising given that you live in California, and absolutely frigging everything has a cancer warning on it.
If the review was on a guitarists forum just ignore it - the criteria by which things are judged is in a different ballpark, and neutrality and accuracy are not necessarily an element in the game played there.