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Stryder5
06-12-2018, 13:56
Feeling bored this morning, had read good things about the CCA.
Took a trip to Currys.
So first impressions are very favorable, how can anything for £30 sound this good straight from the box?
Using some 3.5mm to RCA leads that I had lying around I played some familiar tunes. Tight, punchy and detailed, so musical.
Playing through my Audio Analogue Puccini SE amp to Ruark Templar 1 speakers, I'm impressed!
Waiting for Toslink lead to connect to my Jolida Glass FX Tube DAC to see any differences.
Gary
Waiting for Toslink lead to connect to my Jolida Glass FX Tube DAC to see any differences.
Oh you will, or at least you should. For a while I ran my CCA through a Jolida Glass FX DAC and it was a very pleasing sound.
Damn, I loved that Jolida DAC...
Stryder5
06-12-2018, 19:38
Oh you will, or at least you should. For a while I ran my CCA through a Jolida Glass FX DAC and it was a very pleasing sound.
Damn, I loved that Jolida DAC...
I am pleased with the DAC, it will be interesting.
Which valves did you use?
Gary
I used these babies:
https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?49658-Raytheon-CK5755-tubes-valves-Used-amp-NOS&highlight=Raytheon+jolida
I have a spare lightly-used pair of the Reliability Controlled tubes if you’re interested ;)
Stryder5
06-12-2018, 21:41
Will PM you
Gary
Magna Audio
07-12-2018, 21:31
I tried Chromecast Audio a couple of weeks back.
Optical in to my DSP DACs / X/O unit.
With a linear 5v supply it is very good. With a Ethernet to usb converter and removing the switching PSU and giving it linear power it's insanely good!
With either Spotify or Tidal it has the better of my laptop / Jriver / WaveIO I2S input route.
Spotify is very sensitive to nice clean power and good streaming signal it seems, as until Ethernet / linear it was clearly inferior to Tidal. Now it's a level playing field.
How or why that is / can be I cannot explain.
I'm going to give my router a linear power supply next..
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Stryder5
09-12-2018, 12:25
Connecting via DAC did indeed sound better all round, including soundstage.
Will look at power supply, as suggested above.
Gary
A PSU will help, something like the iFi iPower or perhaps a Chinese LPSU from eBay.
Lawrence001
16-12-2018, 18:32
Have started a new thread, but dumb question, what does the Chromecast offer to someone that doesn't stream, I want to "cast" my hard drive based music files round the house using my Rpi as source/transmitter?
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Well I took Gary's advice and got a Chromecast Audio yesterday and must say it's bloody impressive.
All I was using before was an old Galaxy S6 plugged into my amp via a headphone to RCA lead, the difference in sound is incredible.
Thanks for the recommendation
Magna Audio
05-01-2019, 11:47
I finally got RPi + Kali reclocker outputting using I2S into my Najda DSP XO DAC properly.
With good power clean Lan RPi has the measure of Chromecast Audio using Spotify on both.
I can honestly say, it's sounding so good I won't be continuing with Tidal..
There are more setting to tweak in PuTTY too..
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Not convinced by a clean power supply to an Internet based source, I think the battery in my phone is fairly clean but can't speak for the miles of cabling before my router
Magna Audio
05-01-2019, 12:27
Not convinced by a clean power supply to an Internet based source, I think the battery in my phone is fairly clean but can't speak for the miles of cabling before my routerI look at it this way.
The cabling to your router is handled by your ISP and the protocols used if high speed and stable are quite capable of supplying the bits reliably (with necessary error correction automatically done seemlessly), enough for HD TV, streaming music etc.. having a router near your HiFi on the same ring main with a switching mode PSU spitting noise out noise that other gear and the router had to deal with is a good thing to cut out.
Going forwards I'm sure we'll see more and more audiophile routers as we understand more about streaming. If it measures better and sounds better it's worth doing..
As I've done more of these things the happier I am with the sound..
Easy to go back and try without them to confirm (which I've done).
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Then we'll need to fill our rooms with audiophile air so that wireless streaming isn't compromised by dirty air.
Stryder5
05-01-2019, 14:36
Well I took Gary's advice and got a Chromecast Audio yesterday and must say it's bloody impressive.
All I was using before was an old Galaxy S6 plugged into my amp via a headphone to RCA lead, the difference in sound is incredible.
Thanks for the recommendation
Pleased your happy with it.
Did you set the SQ to the highest in Google Home App?
If or when you have a DAC you can run an optical cable from the CCA to DAC and get even better performance.
Gary
walpurgis
05-01-2019, 14:44
Then we'll need to fill our rooms with audiophile air so that wireless streaming isn't compromised by dirty air.
I believe ionising air filters are used by some. Possibly more in the US. I seem to recall seeing something about this, maybe targeted at reducing vinyl static though.
I believe ionising air filters are used by some. Possibly more in the US. I seem to recall seeing something about this, maybe targeted at reducing vinyl static though.
fancy one for coming summer, but a decent sized one isn't cheap
Magna Audio
05-01-2019, 16:16
Then we'll need to fill our rooms with audiophile air so that wireless streaming isn't compromised by dirty air.
Air quality is bordering audiofool :)
It would be more the movement of air due to sound waves than radio though.
Perhaps the London smogs didn't sound great :)
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walpurgis
05-01-2019, 20:31
Then we'll need to fill our rooms with audiophile air so that wireless streaming isn't compromised by dirty air.
Gary. Please put a recognisable location in your profile. Thanks.
dave2010
05-01-2019, 21:26
Gary. Please put a recognisable location in your profile. Thanks.Sounds like someone from ZZ9 plural Z alpha is going to be Terminated. :rolleyes:
Is it obligatory to have a recognisable earthly address? :)
Bloody Vogons.
Changed as requested
ZZ9 plural Z Alpha is easily recognisable if you've read Hitchikers Guide
Peasants :lol:
Now Google have killed Chromecast! I have 5 providing a very useful synchronised streaming through the house at surprisingly good quality particularly through the Beresford DACs .
I wonder how long they will remain supported, probably only a year or so. Any suggestions of what I could replace these with when the time comes? The Chromecasts replaced a bunch of old airport expresses that had lost support from Apple's networking set up software and I could never et properly time synchronised.
Kevan
dave2010
25-01-2019, 11:18
My Memory - https://www.mymemory.co.uk are selling these off at £24.99 or 2 for £42 today.
I thought I'd have one spare - but balked at getting two more.
Stryder5
25-01-2019, 14:17
My Memory - https://www.mymemory.co.uk are selling these off at £24.99 or 2 for £42 today.
I thought I'd have one spare - but balked at getting two more.
I just bought another one from My Memory as you say £24.99
Gary
I tried Chromecast Audio a couple of weeks back.
Optical in to my DSP DACs / X/O unit.
With a linear 5v supply it is very good. With a Ethernet to usb converter and removing the switching PSU and giving it linear power it's insanely good!
With either Spotify or Tidal it has the better of my laptop / Jriver / WaveIO I2S input route.
Spotify is very sensitive to nice clean power and good streaming signal it seems, as until Ethernet / linear it was clearly inferior to Tidal. Now it's a level playing field.
How or why that is / can be I cannot explain.
I'm going to give my router a linear power supply next..
Sent from my Moto G (5) using TapatalkCan you recommend a power supply for it?
I was thinking a portable phone charger/powerbank but unsure about the cleanliness of that as a supply
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Magna Audio
28-01-2019, 17:19
Can you recommend a power supply for it?
I was thinking a portable phone charger/powerbank but unsure about the cleanliness of that as a supply
Sent from my SM-G965F using TapatalkA big phone charger battery is better than the wall plug (switching mode power supply).
I tested these against a linear PSU I got and preferred the linear supply by a good margin.
I got 3 from eBay.
One 5v and two 12v..
Each one can power two pieces of equipment.
Seem to be out of stock at the moment..
Have to cut off the DC plug and solder on a cut off usb cable / plug though..
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Sounds like someone from ZZ9 plural Z alpha is going to be Terminated. :rolleyes:
Is it obligatory to have a recognisable earthly address? :)Just a town if big is sufficient or county
A big phone charger battery is better than the wall plug (switching mode power supply).
I tested these against a linear PSU I got and preferred the linear supply by a good margin.
I got 3 from eBay.
One 5v and two 12v..
Each one can power two pieces of equipment.
Seem to be out of stock at the moment..
Have to cut off the DC plug and solder on a cut off usb cable / plug though..
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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190128/19da0c157a73bca30e4481eb7248f73f.jpgI'd love it if I could power it using a car battery
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Magna Audio
29-01-2019, 13:45
I'd love it if I could power it using a car battery
Sent from my SM-G965F using TapatalkYou need 5v for CCA.
I got the 12v supplies for two routers I have ;)
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You need 5v for CCA.
I got the 12v supplies for two routers I have ;)
Sent from my Pixel XL using TapatalkShame :/ Still even if I don't use the CCA that much it's still a bargain at £27.50
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Magna Audio
29-01-2019, 17:25
Shame :/ Still even if I don't use the CCA that much it's still a bargain at £27.50
Sent from my SM-G965F using TapatalkYou could probably find a DC socket inline to USB plug on eBay..
Here you go..
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F 401513956461
There are loads, this was just the first one up..
Have to make sure the diameter of the DC socket fits the plug on the PSU though..
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You could probably find a DC socket inline to USB plug on eBay..
Here you go..
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F 401513956461
Have to make sure the diameter of the DC socket fits the plug on the PSU though..
Sent from my Pixel XL using TapatalkIf it does fit, the CCA won't accept a 12V will it?
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Firebottle
29-01-2019, 19:25
No it won't accept 12V otherwise it will be rather like your username.
No it won't accept 12V otherwise it will be rather like your username.Yeah didn't think so, shame
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wee tee cee
31-01-2019, 11:18
12v dc-5v dc converter with usb output....
12v dc-5v dc converter with usb output....DC-DC Converter Step Down Module 12V to 5V 3A 15W USB Output Power Adapter https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01G8PZS84/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_fUTuCbVMWKY07
???
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wee tee cee
31-01-2019, 11:38
yup thats the idea....havent tried it myself but some folk have with theyre RPIs to good effect...
yup thats the idea....havent tried it myself but some folk have with theyre RPIs to good effect...I'd give an arm and a leg for that to work powering the CCA alongside the SEG/Capella off the same battery
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anubisgrau
31-01-2019, 13:14
what can you do with chromecast that you can't with for example SB touch?
what can you do with chromecast that you can't with for example SB touch?Not sure they're at the same price point though?
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anubisgrau
31-01-2019, 13:43
sure not, but touch is out of production for mere 5 years so not really comparable - i asked wondering should i sell SB touch and get this one?
sure not, but touch is out of production for mere 5 years so not really comparable - i asked wondering should i sell SB touch and get this one?Not if it's working perfectly well, I have a CCA and it's ok for the money and handy for Spotify window shopping and background listening.
Thing is you'll find the CCA at around £30 so no need to sell your SBT it's cheap enough to buy, try and sell on if don't like.
sure not, but touch is out of production for mere 5 years so not really comparable - i asked wondering should i sell SB touch and get this one?
Not if gapless playback is important to you. As good as the CCA is, the lack of gapless playback lets it down.
wee tee cee
31-01-2019, 15:24
Not if it's working perfectly well, I have a CCA and it's ok for the money and handy for Spotify window shopping and background listening.
Thing is you'll find the CCA at around £30 so no need to sell your SBT it's cheap enough to buy, try and sell on if don't like.
with a decent glass optical and good dac its pretty bloody good...a proper hi fi bargain IMHO
with a decent glass optical and good dac its pretty bloody good...a proper hi fi bargain IMHOHearing it on your system for the first time I thought you were pulling my leg "a Google Chromecast cast?! Sounds good?! Pfft aye right" but I was honestly pleasantly surprised, it's very good for it's price point
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wee tee cee
31-01-2019, 16:08
still a wee bit sibilant to my ears on the standard psu but bloody impressive none the less.
havent got round to going off grid with it-but will in time
still a wee bit sibilant to my ears on the standard psu but bloody impressive none the less.
havent got round to going off grid with it-but will in timeJust got it rigged up, will need a good few hours to get my head around it but can confirm it runs off of a portable phone charger/power bank:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190202/96f3ca016f5eb9ff6c74e3ac7747797d.jpg
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Magna Audio
02-02-2019, 16:25
Just got it rigged up, will need a good few hours to get my head around it but can confirm it runs off of a portable phone charger/power bank:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190202/96f3ca016f5eb9ff6c74e3ac7747797d.jpg
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Is that an optical 3.5mm to toslink cable I spy?
Next upgrade is the Lan to USB converter Google make (but you'll want to butcher it to get away from the Wall wart Power supply that's integrated into it).
Inevitable slippery slope ;)
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Cool :)
Is that an optical 3.5mm to toslink cable I spy?
Next upgrade is the Lan to USB converter Google make (but you'll want to butcher it to get away from the Wall wart Power supply that's integrated into it).
Inevitable slippery slope ;)
Sent from my Pixel XL using TapatalkIt is indeed, I was shocked when I read the CCA had optical out, really nice of Google to include that.
Does the lan to usb do anything other than increase the connectivity (since it's a wired connection)? If so I don't see it as necessary, I think the wireless connection is quite spot on. Can take a wee while booting up, especially if I've moved it from room to room but once it's going for a bit it seems flawless
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Magna Audio
03-02-2019, 08:24
It is indeed, I was shocked when I read the CCA had optical out, really nice of Google to include that.
Does the lan to usb do anything other than increase the connectivity (since it's a wired connection)? If so I don't see it as necessary, I think the wireless connection is quite spot on. Can take a wee while booting up, especially if I've moved it from room to room but once it's going for a bit it seems flawless
Sent from my SM-G965F using TapatalkThe Lan does indeed improve sound quality further.
In my case it is NOT due to poor WiFi. My router is just 1.5m from the CCA and low ping / very good down and upload speeds.
The improvement comes in turning off the wireless receiver / transmitter in CCA, which cleans up the sound.
I and others have found the same thing on PC and RPi based music servers too.
You can't beat copper.
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Next upgrade is the Lan to USB converter Google make (but you'll want to butcher it to get away from the Wall wart Power supply that's integrated into it).
Could be interested in this route. Is there a guide showing how to remove the integrated PSU?
Edit: An alternative solution
https://darko.audio/2018/07/letters-to-the-editor-3-ways-to-juice-your-chromecast-audio/
Could be interested in this route. Is there a guide showing how to remove the integrated PSU?
Edit: An alternative solution
https://darko.audio/2018/07/letters-to-the-editor-3-ways-to-juice-your-chromecast-audio/Damn, that guide is quite an eye opener.
I'm torn between clean power supply and clean signal. Do I power it from a battery pack and suffer under WiFi as the signal input or do I use ethernet and suffer under the power supply from the mains?
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The Lan does indeed improve sound quality further.
In my case it is NOT due to poor WiFi. My router is just 1.5m from the CCA and low ping / very good down and upload speeds.
The improvement comes in turning off the wireless receiver / transmitter in CCA, which cleans up the sound.
I and others have found the same thing on PC and RPi based music servers too.
You can't beat copper.
Sent from my Pixel XL using TapatalkI'd need to hear it and compare main power and wired connection Vs battery power and wireless connection..which improves sound more? Interesting experiment
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wee tee cee
03-02-2019, 12:41
There is a good thread over on TAS comparing the different power and signal implementations.
Wondering how the battery sounds compared to the mains?
wee tee cee
03-02-2019, 15:36
pulled the trigger on a power bank to do the business with the cca....will report back my findings
pulled the trigger on a power bank to do the business with the cca....will report back my findings
some powerbanks are better than others. not sure why, it may be the electronics in them.
There is a good thread over on TAS comparing the different power and signal implementations.
Wondering how the battery sounds compared to the mains?In my opinion there is a considerable difference between mains and battery. Considering I'm using a portable phone charger it's actually quite staggering the difference to the mains
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some powerbanks are better than others. not sure why, it may be the electronics in them.I wonder if there is any correlation between how well/fast it charges things (phone etc) and how good it sounds powering the CCA
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I wonder if there is any correlation between how well/fast it charges things (phone etc) and how good it sounds powering the CCA
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dunno. the imuto one ive got was a lot better than the other one whos name i cant remember even tho they had the same stats. it had a touch on off so may have been that. but difference was noticable. The big anker one is the best one ive got and it does different voltages.. shame they stopped making it
dunno. the imuto one ive got was a lot better than the other one whos name i cant remember even tho they had the same stats. it had a touch on off so may have been that. but difference was noticable. The big anker one is the best one ive got and it does different voltages.. shame they stopped making itHard to go wrong with Anker in most instances. The one I've got is good but can't escape the thought that there's one better [emoji39]
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Bigandbouncy
03-02-2019, 19:35
Hi, sorry to jump on the thread but I’ve not long had a chrome cast.
Does it make a difference in quality if I play Spotify from my phone through the chrome cast, or if I open the google home app and click on play music, which opens Spotify app as a different device?
Thanks
Dave
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190203/6c1ee1d62e3b52c745561c51b4f77a10.jpg
Nope both should just cast the same wirelessly
Make sure in the set up of cc that you have it set at hi quality sound.
Stryder5
04-02-2019, 08:38
No, the phone, tablet etc, are all just remote controls. The cast is from your router to the CCA.
Gary
Bigandbouncy
04-02-2019, 12:12
Cheers guys, I think I was getting confused with my other device which uses Bluetooth
I take it this is the setting for the higher quality audio?
Dave
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190204/cca036658aa1bcbf98d2b2cce79ab09b.jpg
yup, think so. been a while lol.. i use an rpi now
Stryder5
04-02-2019, 13:37
Yes from Google that's the setting.
On your Spotify account, go to settings, you will find a list of functions, one of them is sound quality ( I think that's what it's called, but it will be obvious) set that to the highest setting, that will enable highest output from Spotify, without doing this Spotify defaults to lowest speed.
Gary
Bigandbouncy
04-02-2019, 21:46
All sorted :-) am I right in saying the Chromecast has the facility for optical out and is there much of a difference in sound quality is using a separate DAC? I’ve been tempted to get a separate DAC for a while now, purely because I need something that will also drive my headphones if I’m not using the speakers.
Dave
Yup. Mini toslink. It's own dac is not bad for the money but can be improved on
You can also plug headphones into it
Stryder5
05-02-2019, 08:10
Improvement in SQ with mini Toslink to DAC.
If your dipping your toes into DAC, the Topping D30 at around £100 has good reviews, or Beresford DAC's are highly regarded.
Gary
My dilemma now is to use my powerbank to power the CCA or use a lan-USB? Battery vs mains, wireless vs wired. I guess a lan-usb is cheap enough to give it a try either way
wee tee cee
05-02-2019, 11:24
bought a cheap power bank off amazon to try with the cca-gave it a quick listen last night.
very noticeable improvement in detail retrieval and soundstage.
it produces far less sibilance than the standard supply....the bass is also tighter and far more multilayered.
fully charged it overnight will give it a proper listen tonight-well impressed tbh.
PhilofCas
05-02-2019, 17:20
Hi Tony, do you have a link to the one you got?
Thanks,
Phil.
Can't believe they dropped this, straight after I had ripped all my CDs to my phone, and was looking forward to having my whole music collection at my fingertips and readily searchable. Hoping China comes out with a clone of this.
plenty cc's about if you need one. probably still available new too
Stryder5
06-02-2019, 12:38
Mymemory still have them I believe.
Gary
Can't believe they dropped this, straight after I had ripped all my CDs to my phone, and was looking forward to having my whole music collection at my fingertips and readily searchable. Hoping China comes out with a clone of this.https://www.mymemory.co.uk/google-chromecast-audio.html
Quick delivery
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wee tee cee
08-02-2019, 11:54
Hi Tony, do you have a link to the one you got?
Thanks,
Phil.
Amazon sell a POWERADD 20000mha one for £20....works a treat
PhilofCas
08-02-2019, 18:44
Amazon sell a POWERADD 20000mha one for £20....works a treat
Cheers, thank you.
eisenach
14-02-2019, 14:14
Price at MyMemory dropped to £23,99 with free postage. Bought one. Don't know what I'll use it for!
dave2010
14-02-2019, 16:17
Price at MyMemory dropped to £23,99 with free postage. Bought one. Don't know what I'll use it for!
Darn - I should have waited! Mine was £24.99!
Re the battery power chargers - do they by any chance have high frequency switching or other circuits inside?
I don’t see how they can give a stable output without some circuitry, and if internal voltage changing is needed I don’t see how that could be done without either bulky and heavy transformers, or smaller ones with hf switching. Some circuit designs might avoid switching, but would then require more power stored and would be less efficient.
If there is complex circuitry in these devices (which I don’t know) is it not then possible that such circuitry might also have an adverse impact on the sound quality if connected to audio kit?
Darn - I should have waited! Mine was £24.99!
Re the battery power chargers - do they by any chance have high frequency switching or other circuits inside?
I don’t see how they can give a stable output without some circuitry, and if internal voltage changing is needed I don’t see how that could be done without either bulky and heavy transformers, or smaller ones with hf switching. Some circuit designs might avoid switching, but would then require more power stored and would be less efficient.
If there is complex circuitry in these devices (which I don’t know) is it not then possible that such circuitry might also have an adverse impact on the sound quality if connected to audio kit?I can't speak to the components in the powerbank I have but I can say it is a huge step up in quality over plugging the CCA into the wall. For ~£20 a powerbank is a no brainer even if it doesn't have the circuitry in question
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A few folk have opened these.. this was a cheap 3 quid job... you get a fair bit for your money.
https://averagemaker.com/2016/06/inside-power-bank.html
A few folk have opened these.. this was a cheap 3 quid job... you get a fair bit for your money.
https://averagemaker.com/2016/06/inside-power-bank.htmlThat's actually quite impressive for £3. Even if it's the same stuff in the more expensive ones that's still good value for money.
The most important thing obviously is how it sounds
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dave2010
14-02-2019, 17:09
That's actually quite impressive for £3. Even if it's the same stuff in the more expensive ones that's still good value for money.
The most important thing obviously is how it sounds
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Ok - looks as though I was right that there’s some circuitry, but some Li battery cells can output 3.7V or slightly more - https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/confusion_with_voltages
For a 3.7V output there’s thus no need for voltage changing circuitry, so the circuits are mostly for safety and charging. If other voltages are needed - to drive amps or some DACs then other circuitry will be needed. So I got this part wrong for a 3.6-3.7 volt device, but for other drive voltages more circuitry is needed. I’ll try my own chromecasts with my own storage batteries - from Lidl.
I’m not sure if there are battery units which do other voltages for other kit.
wee tee cee
14-02-2019, 17:10
had one of the troops across today for a brew and chinwag.
listened to the cca/power bank.....does 95% sonicaly of my main server/flac set up with spotify premium.
glad it was not just me hearing things
had one of the troops across today for a brew and chinwag.
listened to the cca/power bank.....does 95% sonicaly of my main server/flac set up with spotify premium.
glad it was not just me hearing thingsGot a long weekend off and I'm going to get my head around it because what I'm hearing from the CCA is astounding, I think it might be boarding on my FLAC set up also
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Bourneendboy
14-02-2019, 20:52
I'm still very interested in the sq difference between a CCA and a Raspberry Pi with a digital hat.
Any opinions?
I'm still very interested in the sq difference between a CCA and a Raspberry Pi with a digital hat.
Any opinions?I had a Pi/Allo Boss setup until recently and I thought that beat the CCA into my SEG no problem.
Just recently setup my Allo Sparky/Piano/Kali and that beats both the Pi/Boss and CCA. All using Spotify Premium and Qobuz HiFi.
For the money the CCA is decent enough but it's back in the cupboard for emergency use.
Bourneendboy
14-02-2019, 21:04
Interesting, I currently use a Pi/Boss v1.2 and also think this is better than a Pi/Digione/Seg combo.
I'm thinking about an external DAC and wondered what would be the best transport to go with it or stick as is.
Interesting, I currently use a Pi/Boss v1.2 and also think this is better than a Pi/Digione/Seg combo.
I'm thinking about an external DAC and wondered what would be the best transport to go with it or stick as is.The Project Stream Box S2 Ultra ( designed by John Westlake ) is highly rated by Hans Beekhuyzen ( check his YouTube channel ) reckons it's 80-85 as good as the SoTm Neo Ultra yet only half the price of the Neo.
It runs on Volumio. If Iwas thinking of trying one the Project would be high on my list. Needs a separate DAC of course.
https://youtu.be/7CX-pZRhbtI
Lawrence001
14-02-2019, 21:23
DC-DC Converter Step Down Module 12V to 5V 3A 15W USB Output Power Adapter https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01G8PZS84/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_fUTuCbVMWKY07
???
Sent from my SM-G965F using TapatalkJust purchased one of these. I'm thinking I can power my RPi with my Maplin 12v regulated psu with it..? That'll save me a few bob [emoji3]
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Just purchased one of these. I'm thinking I can power my RPi with my Maplin 12v regulated psu with it..? That'll save me a few bob [emoji3]
Sent from my BLN-L21 using TapatalkI'm really hoping it works for the Chromecast but if not there's always the current powerbank
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I had a Pi/Allo Boss setup until recently and I thought that beat the CCA into my SEG no problem.
Just recently setup my Allo Sparky/Piano/Kali and that beats both the Pi/Boss and CCA. All using Spotify Premium and Qobuz HiFi.
For the money the CCA is decent enough but it's back in the cupboard for emergency use.
Just out of interest we’re you running the cca with a Ethernet and linear ps?
Just out of interest we’re you running the cca with a Ethernet and linear ps?
Linear PSU and WiFi, tried the Google Ethernet PSU as well.
Unable to try Linear PSU and Ethernet, I know this is possible but a: I won’t do that as I’m not able to and b: the CCA is far enough behind my existing setup that it’s not worth the bother.
My SoTm streamer beats the CCA too, but note this is all combos in my system and with my hearing, your results may differ.
Cheers Mike,really didnt want to go down the pi route,but it looks like I may have to,I’m amazed at how good the cca is with “some” recordings through Spotify,do you need a computer turned on to stream Spotify through the pi?
Cheers Mike,really didnt want to go down the pi route,but it looks like I may have to,I’m amazed at how good the cca is with “some” recordings through Spotify,do you need a computer turned on to stream Spotify through the pi?If you use volumio on the pi you can link your Spotify to that and control it in the android app, I'm sure other operating systems on pi have that too
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Just purchased one of these. I'm thinking I can power my RPi with my Maplin 12v regulated psu with it..? That'll save me a few bob [emoji3]
Sent from my BLN-L21 using TapatalkJust a quick update. Received the dc converter linked today. Plumbed it in and magically it worked. Got my Capella, SEG and CCA running on battery.
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I’m using a Chromecast via its analogue output into my Leben amp. My Roon Nucleus works very well with it, as you’d expect due to Chromecast being ‘Roon Ready’. It works up to a max output of 24/96 or 24/88.2. I’ve used it with my old Arcam airDAC before but the clicking relays were quite annoying. Works fine straight out of its own 3.5mm output though.
Just a quick update. Received the dc converter linked today. Plumbed it in and magically it worked. Got my Capella, SEG and CCA running on battery.
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wee tee cee
19-02-2019, 16:13
Rabbit hole Nick....let us know your impressions.
I would be interested on your impressions of power bank v lead acid on the CCA.
Might get the band back together and run my CCA and Innous zen via battery....
Tried a mobile battery,really wanted to hear a difference,couldn’t so back to thinking about a linear ps and a Ethernet,just don’t want to shed money out to not hear a difference!
Bourneendboy
19-02-2019, 19:24
I'm still keen to know what a CCA is like up against a Pi into a decent DAC- what are your views fellas?
My digi one Into dac is way better than my cca's
I'm still keen to know what a CCA is like up against a Pi into a decent DAC- what are your views fellas?CCA falls behind the Pi but it is cheaper
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Rabbit hole Nick....let us know your impressions.
I would be interested on your impressions of power bank v lead acid on the CCA.
Might get the band back together and run my CCA and Innous zen via battery....It's fun to try different components so as much as I think new interconnects are the final piece of the puzzle I'm just kidding myself lol
I'll get my head around it soon. I'm really hoping it's better than the power bank but I don't think the internals of the powerbank are making a huge difference so I'm not sure the battery will improve on it.
Is your Zen currently battery powered?!
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eisenach
19-02-2019, 22:32
My Chromecast Audio arrived today. Via it's optical out to the MM30 DAC board in my Primare preamp, it sounds very good indeed. I'm very impressed by the whole thing. It may even get me into internet streaming. Qobuz CD quality at £9.99/month anyone?
Stryder5
20-02-2019, 08:26
I'm still keen to know what a CCA is like up against a Pi into a decent DAC- what are your views fellas?
It would be good to have this comparison, with the proviso that it's like for like where possible. Both have to be fed into the same DAC with an equivalent optical lead, ensuring that the software is set to optimum.
The supply should be of similar quality.
The costs of both should be declared to help define cost benefits.
Any ancillary equipment that is required to make them work should be stated.
For the non tech of us a brief outline of initial setup procedures.
Of course this will always be subjective.
Gary
It would be good to have this comparison, with the proviso that it's like for like where possible. Both have to be fed into the same DAC with an equivalent optical lead, ensuring that the software is set to optimum.
The supply should be of similar quality.
The costs of both should be declared to help define cost benefits.
Any ancillary equipment that is required to make them work should be stated.
For the non tech of us a brief outline of initial setup procedures.
Of course this will always be subjective.
GaryI tried Spotify via the CCA and the Pi. Fed to the same DAC, same optical, same headphones. Pi used volumio to stream Spotify.
Pi: quite bright for my ears but plenty of sound stage and separation.
CCA: far more neutral, preferred this. Separation and sound stage was good but a few points short of the pi.
Detail was the same via both.
The comparison I didn't like was between my MBP and the Pi. Using the same hard drive to feed the FLAC files. Not sure if it's because I'm used to my Mpb and I like the way it sounds as a feed that I couldn't get used to FLAC on the Pi. Pi wasn't worse as far as I could tell just different and I didn't really like it.
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Already been a couple of replies staying that the CCA is ok for the money but not as good as a Pi with add on DAC such as the Piano/Kali combo or the Digione.
I also mentioned it wasn't as good as my SoTm streamer, both CCA and SoTm into the same DAC albeit with different connections as one is optical and the other USB. CCA was a good bit behind in overall sound quality, soundstage less, bass less, not as detailed, treble had a slight harshness to it.
The CCA wasn't as good as my Amazon Fire TV using Spotify to my system via optical
Don't get me wrong, at under £30 the CCA is a great buy and would do well in most lower budget systems and is simple to set up and use. But in my system it couldn't compete.
As for like for like comparison with same setup, ain't gonna be easy, no easy way to get linear PSU AND Ethernet connection into the CCA ( I don't think off the shelf anyway ) and only a few of Pi DAC Hats use optical and those that do aren't as good as the Allo dacs.
So it would need someone with a bit of cash and the know how to bodge a linear/ethernet doohicky, simpler just stick to your budget and buy whichever one suits that.
Stryder5
20-02-2019, 08:57
@Silent.
Thanks for your quick reply, interesting, have you tried through your speaker system, if so were your observations the same?
Gary
@Silent.
Thanks for your quick reply, interesting, have you tried through your speaker system, if so were your observations the same?
GaryNo I've only tried the CCA through speakers, comparing it with the Spotify app on my TV, needless to say it blew the TV out of the water lol.
Im not in a position where I listen to my loudspeaker set up often and properly due to neighbors (I live in a flat) so I normally stick to my headphones. Which I prefer anyway
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Yatsushiro
20-02-2019, 09:44
... no easy way to get linear PSU AND Ethernet connection into the CCA ( I don't think off the shelf anyway )
There is:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CKC62DP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
There is:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CKC62DP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1Cool, that might do the job
There is:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CKC62DP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1:(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190220/df503a347102cd0dd438da505a055216.jpg
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Sent from my SM-G965F using TapatalkI see alternatives listed just below that one
I see alternatives listed just below that oneI know I just thought it was funny the first thing I seen was "Currently unavailable" after being told here's the solution lol
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I know I just thought it was funny the first thing I seen was "Currently unavailable" after being told here's the solution lol
Sent from my SM-G965F using TapatalkFunnily I did think that myself, but at least it shows there might be a simple solution out there
eisenach
20-02-2019, 12:52
£21,99 now on MyMemory.
£21,99 now on MyMemory.You would think the price would be going up since they got discontinued, not down
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Weeman1973
20-02-2019, 14:05
£21,99 now on MyMemory.
Balls!!!! I paid £34 a few weeks back from there after hearing it was being discontinued!
Weeman1973
21-02-2019, 10:04
Anyone else have issues using the Tidal app with CCA? it works fine when first set up but then trying to switch to another CCA or even change tracks, volume etc. crashes the whole thing?
need to restart the Tidal app continually - have reinstalled it several times & checked for updates on both Google Home & Tidal apps but still nothing helps.
Sansiiro
02-06-2019, 19:37
I read with great interest and enthusiasm about using chromecast audio, I use it myself as well.
I took a great advice to use battery-pack for powering the little dongle, with great benefit.
However few questions rose.
What about connecting the power-pack ITSELF to the wall, while it is powering the CCA?
Would you expect this to ruin the benefit? Has anyone done it? I can and will try it myself,
however I am curious about opinions, since I find people here to be very knowledgeable.
And another question: I read that giving it internet through a cable is beneficial since it
turns off the Wi-Fi apparatus on CCA, thus lessening the "pollution". But - are we not
through that opening a door for ANOTHER "pollution" which comes through the internet
cable from my (electrical) router? Hence - perhaps we cure one disease with another?
Thirdly - also I have read recommendations to use optical connection. I agree very much, since
that as far as I know guides the signal to, in most cases, to a better DAC. I do so and I am happy.
However - it is recommended to use good quality cable for that. I don't really understand that.
The way I see it - the binary code runs through that cable, runs straight to the DAC of my Receiver.
Perhaps I am stupid, but the way I see it - whatever how I download or upload data, say to
my computer, or phone or to Receiver or CCA, as long as it is in binary code, it CAN NOT lose
its quality. Am I really wrong? If I download the photo of Mona Lisa to my PC and take 2 hours
for it through the very worst wireless internet - the famous smile will still be exactly the same!
Is that not so? Have you ever lost data through bad connection? I don't see that happening - the
file either comes as perfect as it is, OR it wont come at all or it will come broken.
I would be hugely thankful if someone could shine a little light on this matter of expensive quality
cables for digital (binary) signals.
And for last I share something that I found interesting while using my equipment.
I am planning on upgrading but for now I have Onkyo TX-8220 receiver for amplification.
Having made the purchase hastily I noticed later, that the manual stated smth like this
"192 kHz/24-bit (PCM1754) Digital-to-Analog Converter*
* 96 kHz/24-bit D/A conversion. "
I immediately went bananas and asked them - which is it then? 192 or 96?
The answer was unexpected - they told me that this was PRINTED WRONG.
Since I saw the same info on 2 places on manual and ALSO at their website I was not
impressed and told them - if this is the case, at least do correct your own home page!!
And they again reassured that this was error and that they WILL correct it. It did not happen
for few weeks, but now it has happened. They have removed the * 96 kHz/24-bit D/A conversion.
However it still is printed on thousands of manuals.
Of course - I specially downloaded this file with 192kHz sample rate, and it worked fine.
But this also did not go without doubt and confusion :rolleyes:
In order not to use the DAC of CCA (and through so not test the Onkyo) I realized that
I need to connect CCA via optical cable. Yes, that I did. And to my delight the file ran
through the cable into the DAC of Onkyo, got processed to analog and exited through my speakers
as a moving air. All good so far.
Then I remembered that CCA support page states that CCA only is capable of 96 kHz file.
I realized that to test that inner DAC I need to connect it to Onkyo via analog cable.
Yep. Did it, and fed it the same 192kHz file. And NOT to my delight the music still played from speakers.
Why? Another thing that I can not understand. The limit don't seem to apply.
Or may be - perhaps it still CAN use the 192kHz file, just butchers it into 96kHz.
That seems to be the only logical explanation for me.
I thank anyone to have read my lengthy post and specially those who are willing to comment
on the problems and questions I have mentioned here. I am very much enjoying this forum
and learning about audio, also I have found new love for music as my setup is also
improving often now.
As far as I'm aware any battery you use to power the CCA can't be charged and discharged at the same time so the CCA never gets tainted by the power from the wall
As far as I'm aware any battery you use to power the CCA can't be charged and discharged at the same time so the CCA never gets tainted by the power from the wall
Although it is not recommended for some batteries, most of the Li ion power packs I have used can be charged and discharged at the same time (e.g. Ankaka, Anker, Castle). I cannot notice any real difference whether the charging cable is connected or not but I tend to remove the charging cable when listening anyway.
...I tend to remove the charging cable when listening anyway.
I'm the same, I don't find it much hassle to remove the cable before listening and reconnect after listening (to charge again).
I always feel like it will affect the sound even though I don't have any evidence it does
Mikeandvan
03-06-2019, 23:12
Can I just get some quick advice how to set up my new CCA - Xiang Sheng dac-01 - pre amp, got the mini toslink - toslink cable. Seems obvious, just don't wanna make any mistakes and damage something. Do you keep the cca plugged in at all times or is it chargeable? And err how far away from the dac can it be? Also what about the internet router connection? The last streamer I had - the Pioneer, the internet router connected to that directly, is that involved now? DO I connect it to the dac, or does the cca do everything? ta!
Sansiiro
04-06-2019, 05:04
It is not chargeable, so you keep it plugged in, that much I can tell you. CCA connects to your router via Wi-Fi, and to your dac via Toslink that you have.
jandl100
04-06-2019, 06:08
I hooked a CCA up yesterday.
It recognised my phone and can be controlled from that, but it doesn't connect to or recognise my PC. :scratch:
Do I need an extra bit of kit for that?
I hooked a CCA up yesterday.
It recognised my phone and can be controlled from that, but it doesn't connect to or recognise my PC. :scratch:
Do I need an extra bit of kit for that?You need to use something like Bubble UPnP app ( Android ) but any UPnP/DLNA app will do.
That can link to a Nas drive so I'm assuming PC too. Only thing is you'll need the PC fired up the whole time you're listening, I'm sure you'll be about to 'link' to your PC hard drive where you're music is kept.
Then you'll be able to choose the CCA as a renderer and control where it takes the music from.
I've added a screenshot of all the streaming devices in my house that Bubble sees and can use as a music renderer, plus another shot of my Nas drive on Bubble. So you can see what bubble can control.
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Can I just get some quick advice how to set up my new CCA - Xiang Sheng dac-01 - pre amp, got the mini toslink - toslink cable. Seems obvious, just don't wanna make any mistakes and damage something. Do you keep the cca plugged in at all times or is it chargeable? And err how far away from the dac can it be? Also what about the internet router connection? The last streamer I had - the Pioneer, the internet router connected to that directly, is that involved now? DO I connect it to the dac, or does the cca do everything? ta!Everything else you asked has been answered but another option for powering the CCA is POE (Power over Ethernet): Connect an ethernet cable to your router and the other end is a usb to your CCA and it provides power and a wired internet connection to your router. Upside is your connection will be quicker, downside is I don't know if POE sounds worse than powering the CCA with a portable battery pack. If you power your CCA from the wall already then there's no downsides to trying POE as far as I can tell
Official Power adapter with Ethernet
https://store.google.com/product/ethernet_adapter_for_chromecast
£15 inc free postage direct from Google
PS: don't worry you get a UK version ( not shown in photo )
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Official Power adapter with Ethernet
https://store.google.com/product/ethernet_adapter_for_chromecast
£15 inc free postage direct from Google
PS: don't worry you get a UK version ( not shown in photo )
[emoji106]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190604/606190adcfe8506161f2a3147253e70b.jpgThat's the one, lovely piece of equipment from the looks of it
I hooked a CCA up yesterday.
It recognised my phone and can be controlled from that, but it doesn't connect to or recognise my PC. :scratch:
Do I need an extra bit of kit for that?
use chrome browser.
jandl100
04-06-2019, 07:47
use chrome browser.
I am using Chrome. CCA doesn't see it.
can maybe be 5ghz usage on pc, .. 2.4ghz is often easier to use. depends on the router etc. 1st gen cca only used 2.4 the later ones can use 5.
jandl100
04-06-2019, 08:54
OK, thanks Grant - life's too short for fooking around with this stuff!
Current setup from laptop sounds great anyway. I've vague plans for a new laptop, so will wait for that.
try rebooting router. then just switch cca on and leave it. it may just appear later. can be odd little things but work well when they work. i stopped using them myself tbh. rpi is much more reliable
could also be the pc firewall.
Mikeandvan
04-06-2019, 09:12
try rebooting router. then just switch cca on and leave it. it may just appear later. can be odd little things but work well when they work. i stopped using them myself tbh. rpi is much more reliable
With rpi do you have to have a wired connection to your laptop/smart phone or is there a wireless option?
rpi3 has wireless built into it. i always use ethernet but you dont have to with the newer pi's
Pepperamip
04-06-2019, 09:22
With rpi do you have to have a wired connection to your laptop/smart phone or is there a wireless option?No your desired music player software (such as Volumio) will have an app if using your phone or an ip address if you are using a pc.
Worth having the rpi hard wired to your router though if you can have it close enough to do that.
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Mikeandvan
04-06-2019, 11:05
No your desired music player software (such as Volumio) will have an app if using your phone or an ip address if you are using a pc.
Worth having the rpi hard wired to your router though if you can have it close enough to do that.
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Yeh can hard wire the rpi to my router, does that mean that I don't need any sort of wired connection from my laptop then?
Mikeandvan
04-06-2019, 11:05
rpi3 has wireless built into it. i always use ethernet but you dont have to with the newer pi's
thanks
Pepperamip
04-06-2019, 11:59
Yeh can hard wire the rpi to my router, does that mean that I don't need any sort of wired connection from my laptop then?That's right. You're app will control what's being streamed wirelessly without the steam being wireless (if you don't want it to be) if you see what I mean.
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Mikeandvan
04-06-2019, 17:28
That's right. You're app will control what's being streamed wirelessly without the steam being wireless (if you don't want it to be) if you see what I mean.
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Thanks, I guess the quality would be better that way? Can you do the same with the CCA?
Mikeandvan
07-06-2019, 09:22
Shit bought the wrong Toslink, its too big, so I need mini toslink to 3.5mm jack for CCA?
I bought this one https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FosPower-0-9M-3FT-24K-Gold-Plated-Toslink-to-Mini-Toslink-Digital-Optical-with/113705926441?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
if going to external dac you need a mini toslink to toslink cable. if taking analogue out you need a 3.5mm to 3.5mm or rca.
if you got a tos to tos you can buy a mini tos adaptor
jandl100
07-06-2019, 09:43
Shit bought the wrong Toslink, its too big, so I need mini toslink to 3.5mm jack for CCA?
I bought this one https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FosPower-0-9M-3FT-24K-Gold-Plated-Toslink-to-Mini-Toslink-Digital-Optical-with/113705926441?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
One of these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fisual-Pearl-Mini-Toslink-to-Toslink-Optical-Cable-1m/152154979962?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Pepperamip
07-06-2019, 09:46
Sounds like you've bought standard toslink with the same size plugs at either end.
You need the mini toslink at one end which looks like a headphone jack.
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Mikeandvan
07-06-2019, 10:34
One of these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fisual-Pearl-Mini-Toslink-to-Toslink-Optical-Cable-1m/152154979962?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Pretty sure that's the same as the one I bought, I need one toslink going into the Xiang sheng and then the 3.5 mm going into cca.
Mikeandvan
07-06-2019, 10:35
if going to external dac you need a mini toslink to toslink cable. if taking analogue out you need a 3.5mm to 3.5mm or rca.
if you got a tos to tos you can buy a mini tos adaptor
So when you say mini toslink you mean the 3.5mm end that goes into the cca? I have a standard toslink cable, the smaller end fits in the Xiang sheng, but the other end is the bigger toslink, obviously I need a 3.5mm for the CCA
Pretty sure that's the same as the one I bought, I need one toslink going into the Xiang sheng and then the 3.5 mm going into cca.
if it looks like that one then its the right one
yeng sheng takes a normal tos. the cca takes a mini. on the dac it only goes in one way so rotate it til it goes in
Mikeandvan
07-06-2019, 10:51
yeng sheng takes a normal tos. the cca takes a mini. on the dac it only goes in one way so rotate it til it goes in
This is weird, if you look at the link to the cable I bought above its too big for the Xiang, but my standard toslink cable fits, but obviously I need 3.5 mm jack on one end for CCA.
This is weird, if you look at the link to the cable I bought above its too big for the Xiang, but my standard toslink cable fits, but obviously I need 3.5 mm jack on one end for CCA.
no thats the right cable. it will fit
Mikeandvan
07-06-2019, 11:05
no thats the right cable. it will fit
No it doesn't fit, not sure whats going on here, but the toslink I bought is bigger than my standard toslink I already had.
No it doesn't fit, not sure whats going on here, but the toslink I bought is bigger than my standard toslink I already had.
Photo?
Pepperamip
07-06-2019, 11:11
The end you think is too big (the dac end) probably just needs twisting through 90/180/270 degrees as it will only slot in one way unlike the mini toslink end
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jandl100
07-06-2019, 11:14
Pretty sure that's the same as the one I bought, I need one toslink going into the Xiang sheng and then the 3.5 mm going into cca.
The one I linked to is correct.
I have one used with my CCA.
Mikeandvan
07-06-2019, 11:17
Photo?
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48018282736_11cc47ee9e.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2gadfwu)IMG_20190607_121338079_HDR (https://flic.kr/p/2gadfwu) by Mike Van (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145505522@N02/), on Flickr
thats a tos and both are same size. there is only one size.
Pepperamip
07-06-2019, 11:25
Look at Jerrys link again Mike that's a different lead altogether
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Mikeandvan
07-06-2019, 11:27
Look at Jerrys link again Mike that's a different lead altogether
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How is it different?
Pepperamip
07-06-2019, 11:28
It's long and pin like at one end which goes into the CCA. The one you pictured won't fit a CCA
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Mikeandvan
07-06-2019, 11:28
thats a tos and both are same size. there is only one size.
the gold one looks bigger to me, for sure I can't get it in the Xiang, not matter how much I force it!
Look at Jerrys link again Mike that's a different lead altogether
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he is showing 2 different cables as a comparison to size only. they look same size give or take. ive never come across one that is too big. have you tried it in every configuration.?
if so its badly made
Mikeandvan
07-06-2019, 11:33
It's long and pin like at one end which goes into the CCA. The one you pictured won't fit a CCA
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oh sorry, it has 3.5mm jack at one end for the cca, the end I showed was to go into the dac, but it doesn't, unless I get my hammer perhaps?
Mikeandvan
07-06-2019, 11:35
he is showing 2 different cables as a comparison to size only. they look same size give or take. ive never come across one that is too big. have you tried it in every configuration.?
if so its badly made
Yep, over under sideways down, doesn't it look bigger to you though?
Pepperamip
07-06-2019, 11:38
The plugs jacket looks bigger but that shouldnt make any difference.
Are there any deformities on the plastic shell around the centre pin?
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Yep, over under sideways down, doesn't it look bigger to you though?
not really, but it could be slightly. it looks cheaply made so could be it. i would go with fisual or better. a good plug is a better fit. My latest one was a bit more expensive but a superb quality plug and cable..Supra.
Mikeandvan
07-06-2019, 11:40
The plugs jacket looks bigger but that shouldnt make any difference.
Are there any deformities on the plastic shell around the centre pin?
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Not that I can see, i'll just return it and get the one Jerry linked to, being plastic it should slide in easier.
If you want the proper one sent to you by tomorrow I could order one with my Amazon prime account for tomorrow delivery.
0.5m 1.0m or 1.5m ?
KabelDirekt 1m Mini TOSLINK Optical Digital Audio Cable (Mini TOSLINK > TOSLINK) PRO Series https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00KNQR4UK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_02K-CbD7YE1GW
If that suits you send me your address and we can sort out payment later.
Mikeandvan
07-06-2019, 11:50
If you want the proper one sent to you by tomorrow I could order one with my Amazon prime account for tomorrow delivery.
0.5m 1.0m or 1.5m ?
KabelDirekt 1m Mini TOSLINK Optical Digital Audio Cable (Mini TOSLINK > TOSLINK) PRO Series https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00KNQR4UK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_02K-CbD7YE1GW
If that suits you send me your address and we can sort out payment later.
Thanks Mike, but I just ordered the one jerry linked to, I think plastic is better if its a bit tight in there.
Thanks Mike, but I just ordered the one jerry linked to, I think plastic is better if its a bit tight in there.No worries [emoji4]
Mikeandvan
08-06-2019, 15:58
The cable Jerry linked to has arrived and fits, so great, now to set it up, that's the easy bit right?
The cable Jerry linked to has arrived and fits, so great, now to set it up, that's the easy bit right?Just plug the ends into each device and then open up Google Home on your Android device and away you go. No need to set any audio changes as the digital output on the CCA sets itself to high res automatically.
Mikeandvan
08-06-2019, 22:01
Laptop can't find cca but android phone can seem to, but I want to use cca with laptop. ?
jandl100
09-06-2019, 05:35
Laptop can't find cca but android phone can seem to, but I want to use cca with laptop. ?
I have the same problem.
https://support.google.com/chromecast/answer/6279402?hl=en-GB
Mikeandvan
09-06-2019, 09:01
How do I even know if the cca is on?
there is a small light. orange initially then when on stream it goes white
Do you have the Google Home App installed on your tablet or smartphone yet?
If not install that and then let it search for your CCA you can control it from there and add apps for it to use such as Spotify, Deezer, tuneinradio etc etc
Mikeandvan
09-06-2019, 09:14
Do you have the Google Home App installed on your tablet or smartphone yet?
If not install that and then let it search for your CCA you can control it from there and add apps for it to use such as Spotify, Deezer, tuneinradio etc etc
I am using a laptop, I tried installing the Google home app, but it says cannot find any devices, and so cannot install. I went into setting and Bluetooth does find the cca but it cannot connect to it.
you cannot set it up on a laptop now apparently. needs a mobile app
Mikeandvan
09-06-2019, 09:17
you cannot set it up on a laptop now apparently. needs a mobile app
Shit really? Another streaming device destined for the bin then, I need to stream on laptop.
Once set up it should work with a laptop. Just needs set up on a mobile first with the app.
They pulled the setup on pc afaik
Shit really? Another streaming device destined for the bin then, I need to stream on laptop.You don't own a smartphone, tablet or iPad?
Google Home works in Android or iOS
Just buy a long USB cable [emoji6]
Mikeandvan
09-06-2019, 09:27
You don't own a smartphone, tablet or iPad?
Google Home works in Android or iOS
yes I do but I wanted to run spotify from my laptop, i'll try what grant said above.
yes I do but I wanted to run spotify from my laptop, i'll try what grant said above.Cool, just install Google Home and then let it find the CCA, this can sometimes be tricky and take a few attempts, might need 'location' switched on.
https://youtu.be/g33L7P1ZEgA
jandl100
09-06-2019, 10:20
https://support.google.com/chromecast/answer/6279402?hl=en-GB
Ah, thanks for that.
Spotify now works OK from my laptop with CCA :thumbsup:, but YouTube 'works' but is gltchy in sound - sounds like it's momentarily cutting out every second or so. :scratch:
Mikeandvan
09-06-2019, 10:29
Doesn't work from my phone either, **** this!!!
Doesn't work from my phone either, **** this!!!Do you have WiFi switched on in your smartphone?
Location switched on?
Is the CCA powered up?
I did warn you it might take a few attempts to find it, mine was temperamental to setup to begin with
Yup you have to search initially for cca's own WiFi then enter your WiFi no etc. Just chill and try a few times. It's usually something simple.
We've all gone through the initial hair pulling mate [emoji3526]
Mikeandvan
09-06-2019, 12:08
So, Google home app says 'no eligible devices for app install'.
have you searched for cca's wifi set up address in phones list of wifi's in phone settings
Mikeandvan
09-06-2019, 12:13
Dantes inferno needs to be updated to accommodate another circle of hell.
its a learning circle alas. its easier if someone can come in and show you. if you think cca is difficult then try a rpi.:lol: although they are much easier now too.
pity you werent local, i would have popped over and shown you mate.
first is finding the cca's transmission in your list of wifi's on phone. if it doesnt show switch it off and then start again. it only puts it out for so long.connect your phone to it and then go to the app again and it will then ask you to put in your home wifi
Mikeandvan
09-06-2019, 12:19
Might ask the girlfriend when she's finished making me chicken soup, got a chest infection.
Stratmangler
09-06-2019, 13:02
Actually making you chicken soup?
If it's from scratch she must love you!
My ex's idea of cooking chicken soup was opening a can, pouring the contents into a pan, and heating it up.
Even then she'd burn it.
The woman could burn water :doh:
Persevere with the Chromecast Audio - it isn't difficult to get working.
Magna Audio
09-06-2019, 13:11
Actually making you chicken soup?
If it's from scratch she must love you!
My ex's idea of cooking chicken soup was opening a can, pouring the contents into a pan, and heating it up.
Even then she'd burn it.
The woman could burn water :doh:
Persevere with the Chromecast Audio - it isn't difficult to get working.That's hilarious, a bit sad but hilarious!
Mikeandvan
09-06-2019, 14:29
GF managed to get it working through phone, on Spotify. Don't ask me how.
GF managed to get it working through phone, on Spotify. Don't ask me how.
Because it isn’t rocket science?!?
Mikeandvan
11-06-2019, 21:51
Is there a break in period on this Xiang sheng? Also is it much different in 'tube' mode? At the mo sounds a bit thick and warm.
Pepperamip
12-06-2019, 14:52
Have a good old listen in both states Mike playing the same tracks in as quieter conditions as you can muster and see what you prefer.
Play a familiar track in tubless mode then play the exact same track again with the tube in the chain. I reckon you will hear a difference even if only a small one.
However what you prefer might take time to work out.
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Mikeandvan
15-06-2019, 20:20
Don't like this Xiang Sheng dac, presentation is too warm with my Quad 909, should I get a Topping dac instead?
jandl100
16-06-2019, 04:06
Don't like this Xiang Sheng dac, presentation is too warm with my Quad 909, should I get a Topping dac instead?
I liked the XiangSheng, but I moved on to the Topping D30 and found it a bit brighter and quite a bit more detailed and open sounding. I think the Topping is a better DAC.
Is there a break in period on this Xiang sheng? Also is it much different in 'tube' mode? At the mo sounds a bit thick and warm.Why don't you just try the tube mode? All you need to do is move the RCAs.
You can easily change the sound by changing the valves.
I dislike solid state DACs as this isn't an option.
I don't think it changes with burn in. Mind you I don't think anything gets much different with burn in. If you don't like it move on to something else.
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