Political flimflam (for those interested in this kind of thing)

[shane]

[Discussion moved from 'Audio East / West of Atlantic' thread in Blank Canvas].

Well, we're currently paying £1.10 per litre for petrol (sorry, gasolene). That equates to $9.61 per US gallon. As good a reason as any to leave the 750i in the garage, I guess...

[BajaGringo]

You will probably hate me then. Living here in Mexico we are only paying $2.70 USD per gallon - about £0.31 per liter, if I converted that correctly...

[Mike]

:unfair:

[Mike]

To be 'fair' (?!?)... a vast amount of what we pay in the UK go's straight into the government's coffers!

:steam:

[BajaGringo]

To be 'fair' (?!?)... a vast amount of what we pay in the UK go's straight into the government's coffers!

:steam:

I doubt that most people today realize how far government reaches into your pocket via taxes, fees, duties and the like. All this "protection" government gives us comes at a very high price. I really don't know why people fight the idea of socialism - we are almost there in many parts of the world.

The USA is not far behind the UK

[Mike Reed]

My Dear Yankee in Lower California,

You are not up to spec. with what is happening in these sceptred isles. The last ten/eleven years of socialism (a.k.a. New Labour) is being rapidly turned on its head.

With the very dubious exception of Sweden, there hasn't been a successful socialist government or country in history ('though Russians would have you think otherwise). Very good reason. It doesn't work, has never worked and flies in the face of man's evolution.

Centralisation and profligacy have ruined this economy. Just as in the States, the feelgood factor is fast turning to feelbad. This situation may well be globally exacerbated, but in our case, is govermentally aided and abetted to an amazingly detrimental degree.

Damn; got me going there. Could have sworn a thread was vergin' on the political yesterday! How does all this affect hifi?

Well........(stop there before I'm excommunicated) Thank Heavens my hifi set-up is a lot more balanced that my political views!!!

[The Grand Wazoo]

The last ten/eleven years of socialism (a.k.a. New Labour) is being rapidly turned on its head.

Blair/Brown - socialists? ............ Really?

[BajaGringo]

I know we are wanting to keep this non-political, but my point is that while "socialist" parties are not winning elections, the fact that government takes over more and more of our lives with higher taxes and fees and "services", we are turning into a defacto socialistic society, little by little.

OK, I will shut up and go eat a fish taco...

[Steve Toy]

Blair/Brown - socialists? ............ Really?


Yes very much so and like all socialists, authoritarians. OK there was a pragmatic nod to big business but there is still an agenda of centralisation, control, high taxation/government expenditure and big government/bureacracy.

There is very little difference between the government now and that of Callaghan 30 years ago.

[Filterlab]

Oi, if you want to talk about politics start a thread in the appropriate area


Blair/Brown

Do we have a thread for useless arseholes?

:D

[Marco]

LOL. They're all useless arseholes, not just those two!

Marco.

[Filterlab]

You said it mate!

[Steve Toy]

I say let it run but we can split the thread and move it at the right time.

Political discussions on AoS are fine in my book - in the right place. The decision to move things around rests with any one of us on the three admin team (plus appointed mods).

I don't think any of us here who run this place are right-on pinkos as Mick Parry would express, so a slightly right-of-centre political bias is fine for those of us who wish to protect our hi-fi buying power for the future of our own individual interests as well as those of the economy - global or UK based.

Remember, if those bastards screw up our economy, we have no money to buy kit which ultimately is a luxury.

Moreover, the hi-fi business is weak as it is and we at the Art of Sound wish to protect our future upgrade paths whatever they are from both consumer and producer angles. If any dealers/distributors/manufacturers go under as a result of economic mismanagement, we as members of this forum wishing to further our music listening aims and those who make an honest living out of the latter will suffer.

Thus politics does matter - in the right places.

[Iain Sinclair]

Right on! All power to the people! Up against the wall, motherfuckers! The revolution will not be televised! Everything you know is wrong! Carpe Diem!