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Just wondering if this is something at my end or AOS.s. Adverts have started appearing in individual posts. I cannot recall it happening previously.
Sherwood
26-10-2018, 13:50
Just wondering if this is something at my end or AOS.s. Adverts have started appearing in individual posts. I cannot recall it happening previously.
Ads have always been there but I agree they have suddenly become very intrusive and now take up much of the screen. Very irritating!
Ads appearing in places other than at the top and bottom of a page, are due to a change in Forum policy regarding site income and revenue from advertising. https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?60768-Reduction-in-site-income-due-to-changes-in-GDPR-and-the-sharing-of-personal-data&p=1023254#post1023254
As mentioned in the link, it is expected the software will 'learn' where it places the new adverts, and not have them appear within posts (which I agree is extremely annoying). If you really can't wait for the system to settle, then the only solution will be to install an ad-blocker, which will remove all advertising from the site. The downside is that if you click on some links that will take you off-site, you will be asked for permission (for a one-off allowance), the webpage will refresh and you will need to re-click on the link. This obviously takes up your time and the presence of ad-blocking software will affect the speed of your computer.
again, an ad block will get rid of on pc. if on a mobile then the tapatalk app is ad free and much easier to use than a browser, plus you get free image hosting...its a win win.
Wakefield Turntables
26-10-2018, 15:34
Ad block plus works really well in firefox on my laptop, I get NO adverts, but plagued by the bloody things on my iPad.
Ironically there is just such an embedded advert, for bras of all things, within the first post of this thread.
Thanks for the explanation and link. I should have had a search on the site before posting. I’ve been away and noticed it when I returned. I use an ad blocker on the PC but noticed them being intrusive on the iPad. No massive concern and happy with the explanation.
Guys,
This subject was covered at length only the other day, see here: https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?60761-Popup-and-ads
Plus, a notice has even been posted about it on the Noticeboard: https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?60768-Reduction-in-site-income-due-to-changes-in-GDPR-and-the-sharing-of-personal-data&p=1023254#post1023254
In future therefore, in instances like this, could all members please *read the forum first*, to see whether the issue concerned is already being/has already been discussed, before posting a new thread on the same topic?
Cheers!:cool:
Marco.
Ha ha bras! Is that because of my search history or yours?
Ironically there is just such an embedded advert, for bras of all things, within the first post of this thread.
Lucky you. I get adverts for holiday lets in Cornwall. I don't know why. I think their profiling algorithms need more work.
I like the bra adverts, they Brighton up the AOS page, especially when there is nothing much interesting happening.:D
i dont get any, unless i want them. never had them inside posts. currently ublock has filtered out 100% of them, but i will switch it off sometimes and check out ads in right place, and click on a few as it helps the software know wheres right..
Furthermore, and as an aside, it's pretty much de rigueur running some form of ad-blocking software on any computer, as most sites these days are littered with ads and pop-ups (the owners of such have to fund the running costs somehow), so the use of such software will improve your overall browsing experience throughout the Internet, not just when you're posting here!:)
Indeed, when we introduced the new system, we presumed that members would have already installed such on their devices, but forgot the kind of daftees we've got!:lol::D;)
Marco.
P.S Running ad-blocking software on any decent/up-to-date computer, with adequate resources/memory, shouldn't affect its speed. It certainly doesn't with mine.
doesnt slow down even my old one; on contrary it speeds it up as its not having to image the ads
I like the bra adverts, they Brighton up the AOS page, especially when there is nothing much interesting happening.:D
Can only assume your ip looks at bras etc;) Ive never had any
Can only assume your ip looks at bras etc;) Ive never had any
Not just bras!
Lucky you. I get adverts for holiday lets in Cornwall. I don't know why.
Easy, it's because you're now known as 'SAGA-boy, over-50 plan'... The system recognises you're an old git, and so will be interested in that kinda shit, innit?:D Look out next for ads appearing on caravanning, stairlifts and incontinence pads:lol:
Marco.
doesnt slow down even my old one; on contrary it speeds it up as its not having to image the ads
Exactly... Dunno where Barry obtained his contrary info:hmm:
Marco.
Exactly... Dunno where Barry obtained his contrary info:hmm:
Marco.
There's no such thing as a free lunch so any free software should be taken with a pinch of salt. I find it hard to believe that they are offering it free out of the goodness of their hearts. I've never downloaded any free software. Maybe there are some that are totally benign but the way I see it is why take a chance? Can't say that I am bothered by the odd advert.
I'm getting plus size bra adverts now!:eyebrows:
The well-known 'tried and tested' ad-blockers are absolutely fine [if they weren't, you'd know all about it], and if you use Google Chrome as a browser (as I do) Ad-Block+ simply comes with it:)
I find Chrome a great browser to use in general, as it's also the only one I know that offers to instantly translate websites in foreign languages.
Marco.
I've got ads for linked in and bras now and an ad for something which I don't know what it is.
I'm getting plus size bra adverts now!:eyebrows:
You been ogling at those MILF sites again?:D
Marco.
Easy, it's because you're now known as 'SAGA-boy, over-50 plan'... The system recognises you're an old git, and so will be interested in that kinda shit, innit?:D Look out next for ads appearing on caravanning, stairlifts and incontinence pads:lol:
Marco.
with ads on I usually get radio spares...
You been ogling at those MILF sites again?:D
Marco.
Difficult to explain to the other half why I keep getting bra adverts on a Hifi site!:lol:
The more it's mentioned the more they will appear. So stop typing. BRAS. PANTIES etc[emoji23]
Am I going to get panties adverts now you mentioned them?
The more it's mentioned the more they will appear. So stop typing. BRAS. PANTIES etc[emoji23]
I've added tags to the thread for bras and panties so let's see what happens.
Might get some of those Victoria's Secrets girls turning up. You never know.
Pigmy Pony
26-10-2018, 18:39
The more it's mentioned the more they will appear. So stop typing. BRAS. PANTIES etc[emoji23]
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Wakefield Turntables
26-10-2018, 19:18
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Now this would be really funny if this started cropping up. Although I wouldn't be able to see it!
Stupid adverts. Now I'm considering buying a 'Gorillaz' G shock watch.
No, not really.
Them Victoria's Secrets birds still haven't turned up. I've tagged the thread with that now too, see what transpires.
Obviously all of you with ad block will miss it if it does happen.
Exactly... Dunno where Barry obtained his contrary info:hmm:
Marco.
It was a message that now pops up when I switch the computer on. Words to the effect that you can speed things up by removing unnecessary add-ons, by which I assume means ad-blockers. Have to confess I haven't noticed much difference in general - I'm just delighted the ads have vanished.
I don't understand how the software will 'learn' where to reposition the adverts if you click on them.
I don't understand how the software will 'learn' where to reposition the adverts if you click on them.
It knows where each ad is on the screen and it compiles the number of clicks for each position.
It knows where each ad is on the screen and it compiles the number of clicks for each position.
So what do you have to do - click on an in-post ad, or not click on it. Will clicking on an in-post ad enough times move it to the top or bottom of the page?
Only click banner ads. Anything in a bad place should be ignored.
It's like punishing kids. Leave their crusts on and they soon get the message [emoji23]
Only click banner ads. Anything in a bad place should be ignored.
It's like punishing kids. Leave their crusts on and they soon get the message [emoji23]
That's what I thought. Makes sense, but I don't really understand the workings of the internet.
I can put up with banner ads (just!) - though I feel Big Brother is watching me when the banner ads are related to what I have recently bought on Amazon or eBay!
It was a message that now pops up when I switch the computer on. Words to the effect that you can speed things up by removing unnecessary add-ons, by which I assume means ad-blockers. Have to confess I haven't noticed much difference in general - I'm just delighted the ads have vanished.
That must be because you're using a 'gas-powered' laptop!:D I get no such message, and neither will anyone else who's not using a computer that's fundamentally slow because of other issues;)
I don't understand how the software will 'learn' where to reposition the adverts if you click on them.
Martin's pretty much nailed it. The more folks click on the 'x' to close the ad box concerned, the more chance there is of that ad box being moved to somewhere else on the site.
Bear in mind though, that you'll be competing not just with other members here, some of whom may be interested in the ad content (especially the lingerie fetishists among us:eyebrows:), but also hundreds, possibly thousands, of 'Guests', some of whom also may have clicked to view the ad content... And if they outnumber the 'x' clickers, closing the ads, then the ads will stay put...
On average, AoS gets 9000 page views per day, so the ad software will be influenced by the *collective* behaviour of the total number of visitors. Plus, in terms of the site being able to support itself, we WANT as many folks as possible to click on the ads, and view the content!
Marco.
That's what I thought. Makes sense, but I don't really understand the workings of the internet.
I can put up with banner ads (just!) - though I feel Big Brother is watching me when the banner ads are related to what I have recently bought on Amazon or eBay!
You could use a vpn then they can't track you
It takes me 50 seconds to reach the AoS site from switching on the computer: using a three year old HP laptop with an EE wireless 'dongle'.
I'm now confused about clicking, or not clicking, on in-post ads. Your comments contradict what Grant said.
It isn't complex in computing terms. You could program it on a ZX spectrum.
It takes me 50 seconds to reach the AoS site from switching on the computer: using a three year old HP laptop with an EE wireless 'dongle'.
I'm now confused about clicking, or not clicking, on in-post ads. Your comments contradict what Grant said.
If you want ads to remain appearing in posts then click on them. If you want them not to appear in posts then don't click them.
Although I don't think that will actually work. In post ads are here to stay.
It takes me 50 seconds to reach the AoS site from switching on the computer: using a three year old HP laptop with an EE wireless 'dongle'.
I'm now confused about clicking, or not clicking, on in-post ads. Your comments contradict what Grant said.
Lol.... It depends what you're clicking on. It's this simple:
If you want to try and 'convince' an ad box to appear somewhere else on the forum, then click the 'x' to close down that specific ad box. If you click on the ad box itself, you'll achieve the opposite, as you're 'telling' the software that you're happy where it is. If you ignore it completely, then you're not influencing matters either way.
Virtually as soon as I open my laptop, I'm on-line (must be significantly less than 10 secs).
Marco.
If you want ads to remain appearing in posts then click on them. If you want them not to appear in posts then don't click them.
Although I don't think that will actually work. In post ads are here to stay.
Then I'll let the ad blocker continue to do it's job.
If you want ads to remain appearing in posts then click on them. If you want them not to appear in posts then don't click them.
No, that's not strictly true. The only way to 'convince' the software to move an ad box, is to CLOSE it, not simply just ignore it. Also, in terms of in-post ads (or indeed any ads currently present on the site), they'll only be here to stay *if* the majority of folk either ignore them or open them, instead of closing them. Simples.
Of course, the best way of all is to permanently engage the use of ad-blocking software, and see HEE-HAW ads, EVER!;)
Marco.
Also if you get a goole ad you dont like, then click the X to get rid. you should then get a couple of boxes. one is to ask not to get tht ad again. the other box should tell you why you got the ad and also how to change the behaviour of the ads for you.
Also if you get a goole ad you dont like, then click the X to get rid. you should then get a couple of boxes. one is to ask not to get tht ad again. the other box should tell you why you got the ad and also how to change the behaviour of the ads for you.
True - but you don't get the option not to have the ad (any ad) appear in future. I'll stick with the ad blocker.
Also if you get a goole ad you dont like, then click the X to get rid. you should then get a couple of boxes. one is to ask not to get tht ad again. the other box should tell you why you got the ad and also how to change the behaviour of the ads for you.
Just ignoring them is best. Any reaction to the ad gives them data even if you click to close. All clicking to close will do is change your profile and the ad that you see, it won't reduce the number of ads you get. Since the middle man only gets paid by the advertiser if he gets hits there is no disincentive to discontinue the ads regardless of our reaction or non reaction to them.
All clicking to close will do is change your profile and the ad that you see, it won't reduce the number of ads you get.
No, but it *will* help to move the ad concerned from its current position (say within a post), if enough folks close it. That's precisely how it 'learns' where to be, and how the software works.
Therefore, if you genuinely want to influence the current positioning of ads, the ONLY way is either to close them or open them. Close = possibly 'convincing' the ad to appear somewhere else on the site. Open = 'tells' the ad that you're happy where it is, and we subsequently get approx 8p for the click.
Ignoring them completely simply maintains the status quo.
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
27-10-2018, 06:58
No, but it *will* help to move the ad concerned from its current position (say within a post), if enough folks close it. That's precisely how it 'learns' where to be, and how the software works.
Therefore, if you genuinely want to influence the current positioning of ads, the ONLY way is either to close them or open them. Close = possibly 'convincing' the ad to appear somewhere else on the site. Open = 'tells' the ad that you're happy where it is, and we subsequently get approx 8p for the click.
Ignoring them completely simply maintains the status quo.
Marco.
Let's have an organised "click day", to raise as many 8p's as we can, followed by a big piss-up day where we take all the 8p's to a centrally-located pub.
Good plan, daftee... Or it could go towards paying for *your operation*:eyebrows::D
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
27-10-2018, 17:12
Good plan, daftee... Or it could go towards paying for *your operation*:eyebrows::D
Marco.
:lol: I've had "the procedure" done already - now I need to get someone drunk enough to appreciate my baldy-head, combined with oversized ladyparts. Which is why I suggested the piss-up. :)
Or I could just move to North Wales, no need to get them drunk, just need to learn the Welsh for "stick it in there before I change my mind" :D
Lancashire lass once said "stop muckin'bout an get knob in"
Pigmy Pony
27-10-2018, 17:37
Sounds about right - me and a friend were once in a nightclub, and he said to this girl "Your tit's hangin' out" She promptly took it out and replied "You'd better put it back then". Which he did.
Nowt classier than a drunk northerner. :)
Lancashire lass once said "stop muckin'bout an get knob in"
So much funnier read back in a Lancashire accent... :)
So much funnier read back in a Lancashire accent... :)
it was yes...
dave2010
14-11-2018, 17:53
Not been on this forum for a while, and at first I didn't notice any difference. This is presumably because my default browser on my MBP is Firefox + an ad blocker. If I come across a site which doesn't work, and I really want it to, then I switch browsers - usually to Safari, but sometimes to Chrome.
Consequently I've not seen any "problems" which affect me. I understand the funding issues.
Does this site have to be funded by advertising? On the whole I thoroughly detest advertising - for example on TV, but I understand that other funding models don't always work well.
I use Wikipedia quite a lot, and I do on occasions fork out to support that web site. While I guess that many members here would perhaps not wish to subscribe, and also that there would be extra work involved by the site providers to get a different funding model operating, perhaps a modest subscription ("voluntary donation?") might relieve the problem and compared with the cost of a high end DAC or pickup cartridge etc., would be relatively insignificant for those who find this site worthwhile.
Hi Dave
A voluntary donation system is in the process of being implemented. Details to follow.
dave2010
14-11-2018, 18:06
Hi Dave
A voluntary donation system is in the process of being implemented. Details to follow.Good to hear that. Mixed mode models could also work. Even though I'm not a huge fan of adverts, that could also be a viable option. There are other possibilities - I don't know which would work best for this site, but I could, and probably would, fork out £10 to keep it going, though not necessarily on an annual basis. Over the years I've had more than ten quids worth of fun and help from this resource.
Another site I use is IMSLP - Petrucci Music Library - which has also changed its interface over the last year, and now for around £20 per year heavy users (subscribers) get immediate access to music scores. Light users can in most cases still get free access, but with a delay. See IMSLP (https://imslp.org/).
Hi Dave,
Contributions tab is now active, see here: https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?61282-You-can-now-Contribute-to-Support-The-Art-of-Sound&p=1032554#post1032554
:cool:
Marco.
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