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philv
19-10-2018, 20:39
I have a thorens td-160 super with rb300 and sumiko pearl cartridge.

If i use an acronat of 5mm thick, will thatbbe ok?
It won’t throw off vta (whatever that is!) etc?

I’m contemplating trying a 5mm actonat or 3mm cork/rubber mat.

Thanks.
struth
19-10-2018, 20:40
I used a 3mm acromat and found it the right thickness for my thorens
karma67
19-10-2018, 20:52
it all depends on how thick your existing mat is.
philv
19-10-2018, 21:17
Hum.

How thick is a standard thorens rubber mat?

I can use a felt mat and a thorens rubber mat under at the same time without problem.

My eye sught has an error margin of + or - 50% when talking about 5mm.
That’s using a mobile phone magnifier.
philv
19-10-2018, 21:34
It might be a little close with a 5mm mat.

Though i think a 3mm mat will fit.

Bugger.....there’s a used 5mm acronat listed.

Might try a rubber cork if i can’t find a 3mm acromat.
struth
19-10-2018, 21:36
I preferred my 2 piece rubber/cork blend and it was cheaper
philv
19-10-2018, 21:44
Yes...9.99 or best offer.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F 391397553555

Like this one?


I preferred my 2 piece rubber/cork blend and it was cheaper
struth
19-10-2018, 21:59
Was a bit like this I think

Top slip had a space for record label to fit in

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181019/c6c82fab46d3517a99ecc57cc1776cde.jpg
philv
19-10-2018, 22:09
Ah. See what you mean.
Thanks.
worrasf
20-10-2018, 06:57
Was a bit like this I think

Top slip had a space for record label to fit in

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181019/c6c82fab46d3517a99ecc57cc1776cde.jpg

That’s exactly the one I settled on for my TD150 - tried a few different ones but from memory they all sounded “dull” compared to the cork/rubber mat but it’s a long time since I fitted and forgot


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tlscapital
20-10-2018, 11:12
The mat factors at work (dampening/muffling, isolating/static, soft/hard...) are complex (depending on the phono gear chain), one's use and to one's ear; subjective some.

So trials are still the best way to find out what suits best one ear and the phono chain. There is no universal absolute better when it comes to phono.

As about the thickness of the/your mat, don't forget that you can re-adjust your VTA accordingly if ever.
Haselsh1
20-10-2018, 12:34
I got rid of my analogue gear earlier this year but up to that point I had a TD160 BC with a 5mm Achromat. It also had a solid maple plinth by Layers Of Beauty. Gorgeous deck.
philv
20-10-2018, 14:10
I got rid of my analogue gear earlier this year but up to that point I had a TD160 BC with a 5mm Achromat. It also had a solid maple plinth by Layers Of Beauty. Gorgeous deck.

Mine has a birch ply plinth from das accoustics in germany, via a nice aos member.
Really like the looks and sound.
I can see a cartridge upgrade looming. Ulp.
Wakefield Turntables
20-10-2018, 17:58
Stick to something light weight. Remember you don't want to upset the delicate spring system. Cork's pretty good. HAve you considered Oscar's GIMP mat? I use this to great effect on my Lenco 75. It's 3mm thick and worth the money just for the experimental fun.
Simon75
20-10-2018, 19:24
Is the orginal thorens mat as bad as it's sometimes made out to be?
Wakefield Turntables
20-10-2018, 19:27
Is the orginal thorens mat as bad as it's sometimes made out to be?

No it's just that it's been superseded by things that make the deck sound better.
philv
20-10-2018, 20:18
Stick to something light weight. Remember you don't want to upset the delicate spring system. Cork's pretty good. HAve you considered Oscar's GIMP mat? I use this to great effect on my Lenco 75. It's 3mm thick and worth the money just for the experimental fun.
Is that the analogue works foam gimp mat?
philv
20-10-2018, 20:20
I used a 3mm acromat and found it the right thickness for my thorens
Strugglng to find one with label recess.

Does it need a label recess?
Hum.

Crike....turntables are In another world of faffing/fettling.
I never realis3d.
Haselsh1
21-10-2018, 15:25
No disrespect to anyone but I tried a cork mat on my TD160 and also a white acrylic one. Neither was a patch on the Achromat. Bloody expensive yeah but what a difference.
Haselsh1
21-10-2018, 15:27
Crike....turntables are In another world of faffing/fettling.
I never realis3d.

LOL, one of the reasons it is no longer for me. Too bloody old and far to bloody cynical.
Haselsh1
21-10-2018, 15:29
Mine has a birch ply plinth from das accoustics in germany, via a nice aos member.
Really like the looks and sound.
I can see a cartridge upgrade looming. Ulp.

Oh yeah, a nice real wood anything beats a cheap chipboard box. These things transform with a solid wood plinth. All the best to you.