REVIEW - A new giant killing platter mat

[Wakefield Turntables]

The SPH SSS platter mat.

A couple of quick shots on two of my decks, my highly modded Technics 1210 and a Lenco GL75

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Read this as is, spelling mistake and grammatical errors, warts and all. I make no apologies. Enjoy.

The SPH SSS Platter Mat

The first thing that struck me about this new mat was the energy that it throws out, the second thing was that it also managed to
dig a little deeper into the grooves than my previous mats that I have tried. I have tried numerous mats on various systems over the years with
each progressively advancing the performance of my turntables. The SPH may is available from Sien (SPH) over on Lenco Heaven. It weighs 1.9kg is 4mm
thick and is non-magnetic which should help with people using MI carts (DECCA's for example). It does look a lot like the "OY-YEAH-DADDY" mats which
are available at considerable cost. My sample arrived a little dirty but scrubbed up well with some metal polish, a minor niggle but at the price of
this mat it's something that I'm perfectly happy to forgive. The cost is £75 (I think).

LISTENING NOTES, LET THE SHOW COMMENCE....

Listening to my favourite Iron Maiden album (Powerslave). I noticed that Bruce Dickinson's vocals improved clarity and I noticed a more pronounced echo effectwhich I had heard previously with my Analog studio Crystal reference mat but was now made more so. Bass was a little lean but it seemed right and had a smidge more agression and propulsion. Nicko Mcbrain's drums sounded a little clearer and it was easier for me to see into the intricacy of his playing. The whole soundstage just seemed a little more cohesive and engaging. I certainly had a few "WOW" moments where I heard previously unlocked details. I must have heard this song many thousands of times now and I still get a tingle down my spine when I hear it and especially when I hear new things. Overall a very enjoyable romp!

Moving over to a DECCA gold recording of Three Centuries of Guitar by Andreas Sergovia showed the mat's ability of transcribing timbral qualities of the
classical acoustic guitar. The mat gave this recording air, poise, the leading edge of each note serenely trailing off into the air. You get a great sense
of depth to this recording, Sergoviua feels pushed back into the soundstage. This mat sures does play around with each recordings perception of depth and
width. I now wanted to test the intimacy of the SSS and went to my goto recording, mainly a closed mic Chris Conor set. I immediately noticed the enhanced propulsive nature of the double bass, like a piston! Sibilance seemed less, the intimacy was still intact and I would even say the SSS mat seemed to have a firm controlling hand over the recording, nothing excessively forceful, just enough to show you that it was in control. The piano seemed to be presented with an increased sense of calm and tranquillity.

Next I decided to move over to a nearly mint copy of the Rossini Overtures (DECCA FFSS SXL2266) I wanted to see how much bluster and pomp this thing could throw out so I listened to The William Tell Overture and The Thieving Magpie. I also included Holst Mars Suite and Wagner Night of the Valkyries. The Cello on the DECCA label just sounded so deep and tuneful. The prelude to the famous crescendo could easily be picked apart and the brass section, well just sounded like the powerful brass section that it should be. The was backed up when comparing the Hi-Q records Supercuts recording of Andre Previn and the LSO when playing the Mars suite. The mat conveyed power, urgency, strength, thrust, propulsion, VERY enjoyable, one to get the adrenalin pumping. Imagine this across a room wide soundstage with a sumani like propulsive progression deep into the depths of the soundstage. This was not a one track pony experience. Fast forward to the 45rpm EMI cut of Wagner's Ride of the Valkyries (HMV 10 STEREO OC 051-07 2672) and the whole experience was magnified to even greater proportions. This mat can do pomp and bluster with aplomb.

The SSS mat does have it's downsides and I noted that it is capable of producing a searing high treble, Steve Rotheries playing on Forgotten Sons and
Richard Blackmore (Made in Japan) proved to be a recurrent theme. So, after having my ear's sonically pierced I decided to listen to a little prog.
Enter stage right, Marillion, Forgotten Sons. This song has it all, you can check to see the Bass authority (in spades on this recording), you can try and
delve deep into a complicated mix if you want, you can assess high searing vocals or intimate whispering passages. Timbral qualities and echo effects can
be reviewed. Overall the SPH reproduced this track better than anything I've heard before. So, now I decided to try my prog torture track, yep, It's
Mr. Dream Theater (Lost not Fogotton) from the Dramatic Turn of Events album. This track is quite simply the most complex thing I have in my collection
I've been using it for years to try and wrong foot platter mats and it's worked on every single one, including the SSS mat. BUT, the SSS mat has unlocked
more detail than anything else in the past, it's dissected the track better than anything else in the past and it's presented the track better than
anything else in the past.

I've just had one of those album after album after album listening sessions and the SSS mat has demonstrated very positive sonic characteristics
no matter the Genre, artist, speed, decade, record label. This is a truly excellent mat. I've now stopped listening to multiple albums and have just
decided to accept the fact that the SSS mat is a level above my previous platter mat reference. I'm just enjoying the music in the knowledge that
experiencing something better than before.


It has faults......
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I tested the mat out on my Technics 1210 and Lenco GL75 decks, both very highly modified. The Lenco does have a high output Shure MM cartridge coupled
to the EAR Clone which to some ears can produce an overly energetic treble. I had to calm this down with an Oscars GIMP mat which worked wonders in
calming the treble. Bass on the Lenco sounded a little bloated but the GIMP mat under working alongside the SSS platter mat worked well. I used the SSS
platter mat directly coupled to my custom Mike New Cu/Al platter on the 1210 with vinyl sitting directly on top of SSS mat, as suggested by the Sien who designed the SSS platter mat. The 1210 became more forensic in nature and enabled me to see further into the mix of several of my favourite albums. I would add that the SSS mat seemed to give my 1210 an extra soupcon of depth to the soundstage whilst still maintaining the width that I'm so used to on the 1210. The Lenco is purposefully hamstrung by an ancient Shure M55E cartridge and as such gives me the ability to detect minor variations in sonic presentation when I modify my Lenco, this method enabled me to see that the SSS was a step above my current platter mat selection on the GL75 whilst being in a lower league in forensic data retrieval compared to the 1210. So, the Lenco with a half decent cart should sonically improve above it's current levels. The SSS does not fully cover the platters on my Lenco or my 1210 and as such this means that the total coupling surface area is diminished, this is something that Tenuto addressed with it's Gun Metal offerings and something which I think Sien should address as well. I reviewed the 4mm 1.9kg version, Sien is developing a 5mm 2.3kg version which I think should improve things further, certainly this phenomenon has been reported on the thicker, heavier versions of the Tenuto platter mats. You may need an upgraded thrust plate on your turntables bearing so it is important to check before purchase. I did notice a slightly overall leaner presentation on the 1210 but this was a very very small sacrifice for all the additional benefits that the SSS mat fetched to the table.



PRO'S

* Great quality.
* Cheap (It's a stupidly cheap bargain at this price). DO NOT LET THE PRICE PUT YOU OFF!
* Giantkiller - Performance WAY above it's price point.
* It instils a certain authority and directness to the soundstage.
* It's greatest attribute is data retrieval. It's trumped anything that I've had in the past.
* The extra detail revealed more pronounced echo effects, drumming appeared a little crisper.
* Propulsion, authority, speed, precision it has it all.
* Great with timbral detail.
* It achieves a wide soundstage and has increased the soundstage depth of my reference system.


CON'S

* Produces high searing treble, may need some calming down in some systems.
* Could do with a little cleaning before dispatch.
* Could do with being the full diameter of the Lenco / 1210 platters to maximise record coupling to the platter.
* You may need to upgrade your thrust plate on the Lenco's if your using dual stacked heavy platters.
* Make sure yout VTA is correct. The 4 or 5mm thickness may upset careful geometry and setup for fussy cartridges like the Ortofon black series.

Overall this mat is worth the money and highly recommended.

[brian2957]

Great write up Andy . I was looking at these mats on Lencoheaven and wasn't sure about sitting my vinyl on top of metal rather than rubber or cork . I also have an aversion to what you describe as a ' searing treble . I think I will probably give it a miss based on this element of it's SQ .
Thanks for posting .

[mikeyb]

Great write up Andy . I was looking at these mats on Lencoheaven and wasn't sure about sitting my vinyl on top of metal rather than rubber or cork . I also have an aversion to what you describe as a ' searing treble . I think I will probably give it a miss based on this element of it's SQ .
Thanks for posting .Began reading and thought, mmmmm I'll maybe buy one to try but that searing treble comment killed my enthusiasm stone dead [emoji6]

[Macca]

Good write up Andy. Just wondered if you had tried the Funk Firm Achromat and how that compared?

Your Lenco is striaght from the Brutalist school I think :)

[Bigman80]

I'm really pleased to see a product of this kind for sale at this price.

Good write up but yes, "Searing Treble" is a little off putting. Can i ask why you suspect the platter mat would contribute to this? I know you report it coming when the mat was installed but what do you think is the reason for that ? I am a big believer in the merits of a good quality platter mat and do think very highly of the 5mm Tenuto. I noticed a lot better clarity and resolution with it and i am wondering if you think the previous mats you have experimented with maybe dulled the treble and this one simply allowed it to be heard?. Kind of unbalanced the way the system is tuned?

I am only hypothesizing, but i find this sort of thing fascinating.

Fair play for having a go. We need more of this from people!!

[karma67]

yep "Searing Treble" puts me right off,i cant see how it can be a 'giant killing' mat with those attributes ??

[CageyH]

I am in total agreement.
Sounded like a great mat until that comment was made.

[tapid]

I am in total agreement.
Sounded like a great mat until that comment was made.

Yeah, but you have to take that in context with Andy s other comments that this trumps any mat that he s had before in data retrieval.
Maybe the pronounced treble might be a bit much in some systems or to some folks tastes though ?

[CageyH]

Oh I know, but who likes searing treble? Probably great if you have a dull system.
I think I will stick with my Strata platter and Achromat.

[tapid]

I like my Reso mat on these Lenco 75 s. Feels flimsy and crinkly to handle but does a great job in the transparency department for me and sounds
more live than the standard rubber matter. Like to try Andy s one though at some point !

[Wakefield Turntables]

Right lets clear up the "Chinese whispers". The mat is great at replicating searing treble and in some systems this may be too much i.e. system's with excessive gain, a good example being a highout MM cart of lets say 1mv partnered with a phonostage with 40db of gain for example :eek:.Totally stupid numbers but hopefully you get the point. I looked at the Marillion track Forgotten Sons & The Ripper by Judas Priest, these are two tracks which have probably more lower E string work than most. The mat replicated the treble energy conveyed of the lower fret work perfectly in my system but your going to get a high searing treble in high-gain phonostage /MM output cartridge rig. So, the intelligent thing to do is either turn the gain down, swap your cart or platter mat. To simply "deadpan" a product because it has the ability to faithfully replicate the high energy treble sitting in the vinyl grooves is silly and a little myopic IMHO (DON'T GET OFFENDED)!!!! I did state in the review "The Lenco does have a high output Shure MM cartridge coupled to the EAR Clone which to some ears can produce an overly energetic treble". In fact I'd even go so far as suggesting that the mat could be used to assess if you have a excessive phonostage gain/ cart output mismatch. It certainly had me questioning my system and I came to the conclusion that this could be the case. Consequently I have swapped over my previous reference platter mat on the 1210 (The Crystal Mat) for the SSS mat and the Crystal Mat now sit's on the Lenco, in fact I'm assessing the effects for a future update in my Lenco L75 blog. The short comings of the Lenco became apparent when using the SSS mat and I'm also now considering a slightly lower MM output to replace my favourite M55E cart. So, to conclude, I'm extremely happy to see all the added benefits of this mat in my 1210 system whilst also being very happy with it highlighting the short comings of the other systems. I'm very thankful for high searing treble! :D

[Wakefield Turntables]

Good write up Andy. Just wondered if you had tried the Funk Firm Achromat and how that compared?

Your Lenco is striaght from the Brutalist school I think :)

Yes I have tried the Achromat, it was then replaced with the Resomat which then get replaced with the Crystal mat. The Achromat is great but can be bettered.



I'm really pleased to see a product of this kind for sale at this price.

Good write up but yes, "Searing Treble" is a little off putting. Can i ask why you suspect the platter mat would contribute to this? I know you report it coming when the mat was installed but what do you think is the reason for that ? I am a big believer in the merits of a good quality platter mat and do think very highly of the 5mm Tenuto. I noticed a lot better clarity and resolution with it and i am wondering if you think the previous mats you have experimented with maybe dulled the treble and this one simply allowed it to be heard?. Kind of unbalanced the way the system is tuned?

I am only hypothesizing, but i find this sort of thing fascinating.

Fair play for having a go. We need more of this from people!!

I hope my comments in post #11 clears things up. I think very highly of the Tenuto platter mat, it's sits as the reference mat on my Garrard 301 system, I've tried it on the 1210 and the Lenco, it didn't gel. I do have three radically different platters on the three systems so this could contribute why one mat sounds better than another and highlighting the treble issues.


yep "Searing Treble" puts me right off,i cant see how it can be a 'giant killing' mat with those attributes ?? and all similar posts.


See post #11.

[mikeyb]

I took searing to mean it grates, cuts right through and really annoying. Like fingernails on a blackboard ?

Perhaps searing isn't the right word to use in this context of it isn't any of those ?

If instead, it is sharp, clear, concise, exactly as it should be with no edge or glare or harshness then that's a different story. I'm interested then [emoji6]

[struth]

firey maybe

[Macca]

I think Andy is saying that the mat highlighted a problem that already existed with his Lenco set up. Not that the mat creates 'searing treble' where there was none before.

At least that is how I read it.

[Bigman80]

I think Andy is saying that the mat highlighted a problem that already existed with his Lenco set up. Not that the mat creates 'searing treble' where there was none before.

At least that is how I read it.That's what I was getting at. I've had a few mats here and I couldn't attribute an inbalance to the mat, only the exposure of an inbalance in the setup.

The Tenuto being the most revealing of any I tried. I'd like a go with this though.

[Wakefield Turntables]

I took searing to mean it grates, cuts right through and really annoying. Like fingernails on a blackboard ?

Perhaps searing isn't the right word to use in this context of it isn't any of those ?

If instead, it is sharp, clear, concise, exactly as it should be with no edge or glare or harshness then that's a different story. I'm interested then [emoji6]

Point taken ;) with respects to the word "searing", but you weren't sitting in my listening room or heard the effects of the Lenco mismatch caper. The effects were markedly lessened when used in the 1210 system where treble sounded a lot more like how you describe it.



firey maybe

Who? Me? Never.... ;)



I think Andy is saying that the mat highlighted a problem that already existed with his Lenco set up. Not that the mat creates 'searing treble' where there was none before.

At least that is how I read it.

Yes and yes, sorry to confuse the situation. Yes the Lenco had an issue, now hopefully tamed with the Crystal mat. The mat can create high treble energy, hence it's ability to highlight the shortfalls of the Lenco system. Previously I had a trio of mats doing which worked well but highlighted an over damping effect on treble energy. The SSS mat showed the M55E/EAR 834 clone combo had far too much gain. I firmly believe that the SSS mat will work extremely well within a properly matched cart/phonostage gain combo.

[karma67]

what confused me was he stated in the op that 'IT' produces searing treble which we all thought naturally is awful. in a later post he changed it to 'IT' 'reproduces' searing treble. im glad its all been cleared up.......i'll stick with my tenuto mat thanks ;)

[Wakefield Turntables]

what confused me was he stated in the op that 'IT' produces searing treble which we all thought naturally is awful. in a later post he changed it to 'IT' 'reproduces' searing treble. im glad its all been cleared up.......i'll stick with my tenuto mat thanks ;)

The review was written in situ listening to the music. My thoughts being transcribed as the music flowed. I must admit to not really giving two hoots with regards the semantics.

[karma67]

ah i see,that explains it then.:cool:

[Moko]

Did you try the platter on your 301? Just wondering on your impression vs the Tenuto

[Wakefield Turntables]

Did you try the platter on your 301? Just wondering on your impression vs the Tenuto

No! TBH David it took me nearly 3 weeks to find a slot to review the mat, young kids and a busy business life wreaks havoc with my vinyl obsession. I have tried the Tenuto on my 1210 and my Lenco and didn't really like it. Each platter is different on each deck and TBH each system is slightly voiced for a different genre of music. I use the Tenuto mainly for Jazz whilst the Crystal mat which used to sit on the 1210 was used for Thrash/Heavy Metal/Prog. I'm now beginning to wonder if the non-metallic stainless steel has the ability to express high treble energy compared to the Tenuto and I wonder if this is why they went down the route of Gun Metal v's stainless steel. I honestly don't know. Maybe when I get a little time I should try the SSS mat on the 301.

[Moko]

Please do...I quite fancy one of these mats for my 401 but unfortunately I was too busy with work to take up the kind offer of a loan when the manufacturer was over in London recently so I’m just going to have to rely on others reviews before making up my mind.

[Wakefield Turntables]

Please do...I quite fancy one of these mats for my 401 but unfortunately I was too busy with work to take up the kind offer of a loan when the manufacturer was over in London recently so I’m just going to have to rely on others reviews before making up my mind.

You have a problem straight away. The 301 & 401 platters (I think) were casted differently, so your going to hear different things. Additionally I'm not sure how good your platter speed is controlled, mine is controlled to 0.01 rpm so I'm probably going to hear differences in pitch which may not be accurate to your own experiences.

[CageyH]

non-metallic stainless steel

Do you mean non-magnetic?

[Wakefield Turntables]

Do you mean non-magnetic?

Yes, sorry! :doh:

[AJSki2fly]

I am completely confused by mats per say, I have tried a rubber one and a cork one on my previous TT and in both cases the results were dissapointing in one way or the other. Since buying a Michell TT I have resisted the temptation to adorn it with a mat, trusting to the platter, although I admit I have changed from the standard Gyrodec mat, sorry platter, to the a big fat mat/platter called an Orbe, there was an improvement, so thick is best. :whistle:

[Wakefield Turntables]

I am completely confused by mats per say, I have tried a rubber one and a cork one on my previous TT and in both cases the results were dissapointing in one way or the other. Since buying a Michell TT I have resisted the temptation to adorn it with a mat, trusting to the platter, although I admit I have changed from the standard Gyrodec mat, sorry platter, to the a big fat mat/platter called an Orbe, there was an improvement, so thick is best. :whistle:

Nice post, made me smile, so your saying you like a nice big fat thick one?

[Marco]

Girls will generally choose girth over length:eyebrows:

Marco.

[Wakefield Turntables]

Girls will generally choose girth over length:eyebrows:

Marco.

Good job I'm equally blessed in each department. :D

[AJSki2fly]

Nice post, made me smile, so your saying you like a nice big fat thick one?

As like most things in life, its all relative to your own perceptions.:)

[Bigman80]

As like most things in life, its all relative to your own perceptions.:)[emoji38][emoji38]

[Spectral Morn]

Looks like a rather poor copy of the Oyaide mat.

[JohnG]

I was recently offered the chance to use this mat by the producer with a GL75 Bearing produced by the same person.
For those who may not know, this producer makes replacement bearings for Three Turntables Brands, Lenco, Garrard 401 and Thorens TD 124.
I have read reviews of his latest offering which is this TT Mat.
It seems the most positive one I have read up until this one is where Two Mats are used in a stacked configuration, the holes in the mats can be orientated from being perfectly aligned to being offset, this then produces a different attenuation and serves as a tuning method.
So I am assuming that this experimentation with the hole alignment might aide a user in being able to produce a attenuation that offers a SQ that is correct to their preference.
Before a stacked mat set up is sought, a user could attempt to attenuate a single mat to a SQ that is correct for their preference, by using a additional mat between Platter and Mat, or Mat and Vinyl, or a combination of both, the selection of material for the additional mat can be endless.
Here is my 'off the cuff' offering, use a piece of daily tabloid newspaper, cut to the platter shape. This can be Hot Ironed to compress and increase overall surface contact.
These sheets can be stacked into a lamination, to the point a piece of cardboard might make a more sensible choice.
As stated, the material choices are endless, and the sought attenuation to produce a sound quality that is correct for a individual, has a very broad range.

[Wakefield Turntables]

Looks like a rather poor copy of the Oyaide mat.

£250-350 depending on where you shop. Keep it mate, I'd rather spend the extra money saved on some other audiophoolery.

[Wakefield Turntables]

I was recently offered the chance to use this mat by the producer with a GL75 Bearing produced by the same person.
For those who may not know, this producer makes replacement bearings for Three Turntables Brands, Lenco, Garrard 401 and Thorens TD 124.
I have read reviews of his latest offering which is this TT Mat.
It seems the most positive one I have read up until this one is where Two Mats are used in a stacked configuration, the holes in the mats can be orientated from being perfectly aligned to being offset, this then produces a different attenuation and serves as a tuning method.
So I am assuming that this experimentation with the hole alignment might aide a user in being able to produce a attenuation that offers a SQ that is correct to their preference.
Before a stacked mat set up is sought, a user could attempt to attenuate a single mat to a SQ that is correct for their preference, by using a additional mat between Platter and Mat, or Mat and Vinyl, or a combination of both, the selection of material for the additional mat can be endless.
Here is my 'off the cuff' offering, use a piece of daily tabloid newspaper, cut to the platter shape. This can be Hot Ironed to compress and increase overall surface contact.
These sheets can be stacked into a lamination, to the point a piece of cardboard might make a more sensible choice.
As stated, the material choices are endless, and the sought attenuation to produce a sound quality that is correct for a individual, has a very broad range.

My review was written with my Lenco 75 sitting in prototype mode, I'd just finished a heavy dose of modification. My review was based on two heavy stacked platters and then the SSS mat sitting on top. Sien emailed me detailing this "tuning" method, so I'm glad I had no idea as this may have biased what I heard. I simply used the mat and documented in situ what I heard. I have reservations about using too much weight on the bearing, I have replaced the thrust plate in my Joly bearing for something beefier. I think I'm happy with what I heard. I now experimenting with something else which is producing even better sonics and its a product that was sitting on my Tehcnics 1210 http://www.analogueseduction.net/turntable-mats/analogue-studio-crystal-glass-turntable-platter-mat.html I'm currently running stacked heavy platters with the crystal mat sitting on top and it surpasses the SSS mat. So, I think you are correct in stating the near infinite possibilities. :eek:

[JohnG]

The producer has satisfied himself that the statement made by Oyaide, that the holes in the mat assist in attenuation, is a functioning addition to the mat.
The holes in the SSS mat are this concept taken further and the hole positioning and diameters are unique to this mat, as a result of experimentation by the producer.
It would take a outlay of approx £250 - 300 for the Oyaide + £ 75 for the SSS to carry out a A/B trial.
You could triple stack a SSS for the Oyaide purchase price, and get your money back on any SSS mats that are classed as not required, if this is what a trial proves.

[Wakefield Turntables]

The producer has satisfied himself that the statement made by Oyaide, that the holes in the mat assist in attenuation, is a functioning addition to the mat.
The holes in the SSS mat are this concept taken further and the hole positioning and diameters are unique to this mat, as a result of experimentation by the producer.
It would take a outlay of approx £250 - 300 for the Oyaide + £ 75 for the SSS to carry out a A/B trial.
You could triple stack a SSS for the Oyaide purchase price, and get your money back on any SSS mats that are classed as not required, if this is what a trial proves.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! Far too much experimentation. I'd be driven insane swapping mats let alone trying to describe and assess the nuances of each mat, let alone combination. :D

[tdlt02]

Contact info for the maker of this SPH SSS mat to purchase one please?

[Wakefield Turntables]

Contact info for the maker of this SPH SSS mat to purchase one please?

Look on the Lenco Heaven website.

[Spectral Morn]

The producer has satisfied himself that the statement made by Oyaide, that the holes in the mat assist in attenuation, is a functioning addition to the mat.
The holes in the SSS mat are this concept taken further and the hole positioning and diameters are unique to this mat, as a result of experimentation by the producer.
It would take a outlay of approx £250 - 300 for the Oyaide + £ 75 for the SSS to carry out a A/B trial.
You could triple stack a SSS for the Oyaide purchase price, and get your money back on any SSS mats that are classed as not required, if this is what a trial proves.

I have an Oyaide, which is beautiful and very well made, and in my system is my best sounding mat, tried a fair few others including a glass mat, cork, cork and leather, Funk, Origin Live, a weird French rubber Technics mat and the Oyaide + its weight offers best results on my Garrard and Technics. In saying that I am always open to trying something else but providing an actual link to the item in question would be normal practice when offering a review on an item.

[Spectral Morn]

Look on the Lenco Heaven website.

Would be nice to provide a link and be helpful. After all Andrew you are often asking AoS members for help and I am sure you would find no links to the suggested help items somewhat frustrating. Do on to others as you would have them do on to you.

[karma67]

agreed,i thought the same,if you do a review at least tell folks were they can buy it from !

[ianlenco]

https://www.lencoheaven.net/forum/index.php?topic=30029.0

[JohnG]

I have made a proposal to the producer, about making a mat available for a Loan/Home Trial to AoS Members.
The producer is keen to participate.
The terms I have been informed of, to achieve this on AoS, have been made known to him.
I am awaiting further information from the producer.
It would be good if the product was to be made available, I feel it would get a discussion started, as it finds it position in a pecking order.
The producers replacement bearing designs for the 401, TD 124 and Lenco's have created a lot of positive reports.

[Spectral Morn]

https://www.lencoheaven.net/forum/index.php?topic=30029.0

Well not being a member of Lenco Heaven I can't see anything.

[Spectral Morn]

I have made a proposal to the producer, about making a mat available for a Loan/Home Trial to AoS Members.
The producer is keen to participate.
The terms I have been informed of, to achieve this on AoS, have been made known to him.
I am awaiting further information from the producer.
It would be good if the product was to be made available, I feel it would get a discussion started, as it finds it position in a pecking order.
The producers replacement bearing designs for the 401, TD 124 and Lenco's have created a lot of positive reports.

Interesting, I would be interested in hearing this mat.

[Wakefield Turntables]

Would be nice to provide a link and be helpful. After all Andrew you are often asking AoS members for help and I am sure you would find no links to the suggested help items somewhat frustrating. Do on to others as you would have them do on to you.


agreed,i thought the same,if you do a review at least tell folks were they can buy it from !

The review clearly states, " The SPH may is available from Sien (SPH) over on Lenco Heaven" , my suggestion is that you both read the review properly :rolleyes:. I write these reviews for the pleasure of others on the Forum and I occasionally ask for help, that's how it works. Incidently, its, "Do unto others as you would have them do on to you. (https://www.google.com/search?safe=strict&client=firefox-b-ab&q=Do+unto+others+as+you+would+have+them+do+on+to+y ou.&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjF6fPm16neAhWrJsAKHUw1CPYQBQgpKAA&biw=1525&bih=674)".

[Spectral Morn]

The review clearly states, " The SPH may is available from Sien (SPH) over on Lenco Heaven" , my suggestion is that you both read the review properly :eek:. I write these reviews for the pleasure of others on the Forum and I occasionally ask for help. I'm beginning to wonder why I bother.

Andrew

I have read the review properly, thread, and you have offered minimal information regarding the maker of this item. On what online or in print magazine do you read reviews of items with no actual details of the maker, supplier of the item? None.

Lenco Heaven, the page linked to kindly by another member, as it turns out is not visible to non members. Its a shame another member had to do that, and you answer a query for more info with a somewhat dismissive, reading between the lines I can't be bothered go look for yourself comment.

Bottom line is we are all here in part to help each other, and your reply in my view was not very helpful or really in the spirit of the site. You often make requests for information, much of it easily found by Google searches. Maybe in future AoS members might do well to reply to your request by saying, Go Google it.

[Wakefield Turntables]

Andrew

I have read the review properly, thread, and you have offered minimal information regarding the maker of this item. On what online or in print magazine do you read reviews of items with no actual details of the maker, supplier of the item? None.

Lenco Heaven, the page linked to kindly by another member, as it turns out is not visible to non members. Its a shame another member had to do that, and you answer a query for more info with a somewhat dismissive, reading between the lines I can't be bothered go look for yourself comment.

Bottom line is we are all here in part to help each other, and your reply in my view was not very helpful or really in the spirit of the site. You often make requests for information, much of it easily found by Google searches. Maybe in future AoS members might do well to reply to your request by saying, Go Google it.

Neil, the review clearly states, "Read this as is, spelling mistake and grammatical errors, warts and all. I make no apologies. Enjoy. ". I can't be bothered discussing semantics. See this review as the last one I write.

[sph]

Hi all,

I am the maker of this SSSmat. Just joined this forum.

[Spectral Morn]

Hi all,

I am the maker of this SSSmat. Just joined this forum.

Welcome to AoS, nice to have you aboard.

[kambo_z]

Hi all,

I am the maker of this SSSmat. Just joined this forum.

Welcome to this forum SPH..

[sph]

Thanks

[JohnG]

Hi Sien
Glad to see your have joined in. :)

[Gaz]

Forgive my ignorance but I'm planning on getting a turntable soonish, what does a platter mat do?
I'm initially only looking for a budget TT is there any significant benefit from a particular type of mat?

[Bigman80]

Forgive my ignorance but I'm planning on getting a turntable soonish, what does a platter mat do?
I'm initially only looking for a budget TT is there any significant benefit from a particular type of mat?A platter mat will affect the quality of your sound massively. Or not, depending on your viewpoint.

I heard the difference and spent £300+ on a Tenuto platter mat made of Gunmetal.

Results will vary based on material is used for said platter mat and what Turntable you use, and whether the weight of 5mm of metal will be detrimental to the longevity of your turntable is something you'd have to get advice on.

Personal perspective: A top class platter mat is essential, if you want a top class sound.

[Gaz]

Hmm, I'm not planning on spending £300 on the turntable let alone the mat.:lol:
I'm very sceptical of a lot of things in the hifi world but turntables are more sensitive to external influences than other kit so mats sound like they make sense. I won't be investing x3 more on one than the turntable cost though :)

[Bigman80]

Hmm, I'm not planning on spending £300 on the turntable let alone the mat.[emoji38]
I'm very sceptical of a lot of things in the hifi world but turntables are more sensitive to external influences than other kit so mats sound like they make sense. I won't be investing x3 more on one than the turntable cost though :)No, that's understandable but when you've invested £2500 into your TT (like me) you don't want a little rubber disc killing the sound.

In your shoes, I'd go leather. Ooh err!!

Leather platter mats are my budget faves. I had one on three turntables leading up to the SP10 MK2 and it improved every turntable. I tried acrylic but it caused constant static issues. Tried rubber, felt, cork, acrylic and then the leather. Can be had for £20 on eBay or the like. Superb little upgrade for very little money

[Barry]

No, that's understandable but when you've invested £2500k into your TT (like me) you don't want a little rubber disc killing the sound.

In your shoes, I'd go leather. Ooh err!!

Leather platter mats are my budget faves. I had one on three turntables leading up to the SP10 MK2 and it improved every turntable. I tried acrylic but it caused constant static issues. Tried rubber, felt, cork, acrylic and then the leather. Can be had for £20 on eBay or the like. Superb little upgrade for very little money

If I had spent two and a half million pounds on a deck, as you seem to have done, I would think nothing of spending £300 on a mere mat! :lol:

[Bigman80]

If I had spent two and a half million pounds on a deck, as you seem to have done, I would think nothing of spending £300 on a mere mat! [emoji38][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] typo does me again

[Macca]

Two and half million eh? You kept that quiet, no wonder it sounds so good.

[Gaz]

No, that's understandable but when you've invested £2500 into your TT (like me) you don't want a little rubber disc killing the sound.

In your shoes, I'd go leather. Ooh err!!

Leather platter mats are my budget faves. I had one on three turntables leading up to the SP10 MK2 and it improved every turntable. I tried acrylic but it caused constant static issues. Tried rubber, felt, cork, acrylic and then the leather. Can be had for £20 on eBay or the like. Superb little upgrade for very little money

Ooh yes I like leather, I'm wearing a red leather tho......


.... Sorry wrong forum:doh:

[Bigman80]

Ooh yes I like leather, I'm wearing a red leather tho......


.... Sorry wrong forum:doh:[emoji38]

[Spectral Morn]

Ooh yes I like leather, I'm wearing a red leather tho......


.... Sorry wrong forum:doh:

There are a couple of companies making turntables in leather finishes ;) If thats what you are into.