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Ok guys, speedtest challenge! :D
Got these results last week (and saved them), which is about fastest I've had here so far:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/v2XceG.png
Can anyone here beat that - I'm sure that someone out there must have recorded even faster results? Let's see what you've got, chaps! :cool:
Marco.
walpurgis
08-09-2018, 20:21
Not much point in me having a go, I've probably got the worst broadband service around. Anyway, tonight it's just piss-poor as opposed to the usual bloody awful. Doesn't seem to affect my internet use though. :)
http://i63.tinypic.com/so0lmc.png
WESTLOWER
08-09-2018, 20:23
Mines bollocks !
http://i.imgur.com/91oYPdH.jpg
The clarity of our internet tv is excellent and better than sky tv .
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180908/535dae969dd23a518c0b4fe8b1729126.png
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Lol... Yes, bring on the bollocks results, too!:eyebrows:
Marco.
The clarity of our internet tv is excellent and better than sky tv .
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180908/535dae969dd23a518c0b4fe8b1729126.png
That's pretty decent, Andy:thumbsup:
Marco.
Lol... Yes, bring on the bollocks results, too!:eyebrows:
Marco.
BT want £75 a month for me to achieve results like yours Marco ! Fast car fast internet service [emoji1303]
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WESTLOWER
08-09-2018, 20:35
Actually a little better now!
But still shite!
http://i.imgur.com/qMeCrLs.jpg
Don't go BT mate, go Virgin. For super-fast Internet speeds, there's no-one to touch them!:)
Marco.
Don't go BT mate, go Virgin. For super-fast Internet speeds, there's no-one to touch them!:)
Marco.
We can’t get virgin in Milton Keynes as BT somehow have the rights , something to do with the old cable tv .
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walpurgis
08-09-2018, 20:46
I'm with Co-op who use BT infrastructure. It's slow, but it is cheap and generally trouble free and if I do need assistance, I get to speak with a helpful friendly human promptly.
We can’t get virgin in Milton Keynes as BT somehow have the rights , something to do with the old cable tv .
Ah..... Btw, was that £75 a month *just* for your Internet service?
We pay Virgin £90 a month for everything...Internet, phone (inclusive of unlimited calls anytime to the UK and line rental), and the full TV package, with Sky Movies, Sports and BT Sports, all in HD/UHD.
Marco.
Ah..... Btw, was that £75 a month *just* for your Internet service?
We pay Virgin £90 a month for everything...Internet, phone (inclusive of unlimited calls anytime to the UK and line rental), and the full TV package, with Sky Movies, Sports and BT Sports, all in HD/UHD.
Marco.
Yep , that’s just for their 300meg service.
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walpurgis
08-09-2018, 20:56
This may sound daft, but I keep a free (UK) dial-up internet number, just in case the broadband goes down. It's painfully slow, but will get you online in an emergency. I've only had to use it once so far.
This may sound daft, but I keep a free (UK) dial-up internet number, just in case the broadband goes down. It's painfully slow, but will get you online in an emergency. I've only had to use it once so far.
Ah you’ll be alright then Geoff when the Russians invade [emoji1303]
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Yep , that’s just for their 300meg service.
Madness... When Virgin was introduced to our area in the summer, we snapped it up and cancelled Sky, as it was better all-round and half the price!:)
Marco.
Love to have Virgin but we are not in a cabled area. Road next door is.
But still with plusnet (part of BT and using Openreach backhaul) we get 74mb down and about 19mb up. Also importantly ping (latency) is in low single figures so pretty instant responses.
Important (when using copper) to plug the modem (often within the router) into the BT master socket (http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/40812/~/what-type-of-master-socket-have-i-got%3F) - plugging it into an extension you can easily lose half (or more) bandwidth and speed.
Equally when measuring bandwidth and speed use a fast machine that has a direct connection to the router (e.g. via ethernet). Measuring via wifi will give very misleading results.
Love to have Virgin but we are not in a cabled area. Road next door is.
But still with plusnet (part of BT and using Openreach backhaul) we get 74mb down and about 19mb up. Also importantly ping (latency) is in low single figures so pretty instant responses.
Important (when using copper) to plug the modem (often within the router) into the BT master socket (http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/40812/~/what-type-of-master-socket-have-i-got%3F) - plugging it into an extension you can easily lose half (or more) bandwidth and speed.
Equally when measuring bandwidth and speed use a fast machine that has a direct connection to the router (e.g. via ethernet). Measuring via wifi will give very misleading results.
Yes mine was done via WiFi and on my iPhone which I believe has a maximum download/upload speed of 20meg ( or so I was told ) .
I have a white box on the outside wall which was installed many years ago when we first got BT infinity.
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Much can depend on the equipment you use too. And if anything else is using it. And distance from wifi output etc.
For instance my slow laptop upstairs only gets 13 Mbps but wifi on phone upstairs gets about double that.
Just checked phone and with Netflix on I got this
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180908/74b958110a23f9144f6e4bef4d0f8dda.png
So it will be faster in living room and the laptop down there is newer and on an Ethernet so will be a bit better than this but not a lot.
I'm not going to get up to try tho lol
Yes mine was done via WiFi and on my iPhone which I believe has a maximum download/upload speed of 20meg ( or so I was told ) .
I have a white box on the outside wall which was installed many years ago when we first got BT infinity.
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Don't think iPhones are speed limited. Just tried using an ancient iPhone here and getting nearly 40mb down.
I use an android phone. Once (in a museum if I recall) I got 300mb down / 300mb up. Love to have that at home!
https://i.imgur.com/qvxzxzk.jpg?1
Nice one, Gaz! :thumbsup:
I think I had 340Mbps once, but that's excellent. Maybe it's because you're so high up?:D
Marco.
I'm hovering around 57 meg on a number of different testers. That's a lot more than I'll ever need.
Nice one, Gaz! :thumbsup:
I think I had 340Mbps once, but that's excellent. Maybe it's because you're so high up?:D
Marco.
North of the border Aye... :)
https://i.imgur.com/qvxzxzk.jpg?1
And we have a WINNER folks. [emoji41]
Will be hard to beat that:)
Marco.
All fairly meaningless really - the result I got this morning is way faster than what I got last night (or most evenings in fact).
Saturday evening is one of the peak times for downloads and heavy usage will take the speeds way down (which accounts for the poor results in London versus more remote parts of the UK)
Also, we live in a 'Virgin user' heavy neighbourhood as Diamond Cable got in here fairly quickly with fibre optic years ago and did a heavy promo long before they re-branded as a Branson Pickle.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1861/44566506641_3c09fd8d81_o.jpg
Saturday evening is one of the peak times for downloads and heavy usage will take the speeds way down...
Feck, what speeds will Gaz achieve then outside of peak usage times?:eek::eek:
Good result though, Mike. Do you have fibre-to-the-property, like me?:)
Marco.
Probably .... would have to open the box and peek ;)
Diamond Cable were early innovators in fibre optic and moved into our town over 20 years ago - I think at the time they were linked to Kingston Communication in Hull which is just up the road from us so they got down here fairly quickly. Also aided by the fact that a new University was being built in Lincoln so they had a big client to boost investment.
I think it's now owned by Cisco, the US giant ... Virgin is (as usual) just the pretty frock it uses to beguile the Brits. I still have an NTLWorld email account :lol:
Stratmangler
09-09-2018, 08:36
Do you have fibre-to-the-property, like me?:)
Have they started doing fttp?
Any chance of some pics of the gear they use?
Lol.... No worries, I watched them install our set-up, from start to finish, and saw the process involved and materials used.
It was rather interesting, and the lads who did the job were really friendly and helpful, probably helped by the fact I was keeping them going in cake and cappuccinos, which they said were better than what they get in Costa!:D
They did a great job, and the attention to detail they paid to getting all the cables installed as neatly and invisibly as possible was first class. What lets Virgin down is their truly appalling/hopeless customer service department, based in India. It's literally a complete waste of time contacting them in the event of an issue, as nothing EVER gets done!:rolleyes:
Thank goodness, the rep who sold us our package gave us his mobile number, and told us to call him directly with any problems, and he'd sort it out, which to his credit he's done. I'd advise anyone moving to Virgin to do the same. That's the only caveat I'd add, as the TV/phone/Internet and movies/sports service itself is excellent.
Marco.
Have they started doing fttp?
Any chance of some pics of the gear they use?
Yes. As for pics, how would you expect me to do that now, as they've long been and gone...:)
Marco.
Stratmangler
09-09-2018, 08:57
Yes. As for pics, how would you expect me to do that now, as they've long been and gone...:)
Marco.
Where does the connection terminate?
I'm on Virgin "fibre", and there's no fibre anywhere near my place.
The feed is coax to from nearest Virgin roadside box.
If you have fibre to your place your equipment will be different to the stuff they normally install.
Where does the connection terminate?
In a smallish white box, fixed to the wall in our hall, just inside the front door, which is now covered by wine racks (I use the area for my wine store). They had to come through the lawn, from the main road, to get it there.
No idea about different equipment. I was told it was FTTP by the guy who installed it, so have no reason to doubt him.
Marco.
Do you have fibre-to-the-property, like me?:)
Marco.
Just had a look in the box - and no, it's a coax cable coming in the house, presumably from the box across the road.
(incidentally Virgin is actually owned by Liberty Global and not Cisco as in my last post ... thanks Wiki ;) )
If you have a Virgin FTTP installation as part of Project Lightning there should (apparently) be a large box outside the property which feeds the indoor box ..
Something like this:
https://richardglover.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/IMAG0970-768x430.jpg
https://richardglover.co.uk/2017/07/virgin-media-fttp-install/
Interesting gubbins:
https://richardglover.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/IMAG0971-e1501113493339-768x768.jpg
https://vectortechnologies.com/product/boostral-611/
If you have a Virgin FTTP installation as part of Project Lightning there should (apparently) be a large box outside the property which feeds the indoor box ..
Something like this:
https://richardglover.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/IMAG0970-768x430.jpg
https://richardglover.co.uk/2017/07/virgin-media-fttp-install/
Yes, that's what we've got, only it's white, not brown:)
Marco.
Stratmangler
09-09-2018, 09:20
In a smallish white box, fixed to the wall in our hall, just inside the front door, which is now covered by wine racks (I use the area for my wine store). They had to come through the lawn, from the main road, to get it there.
No idea about different equipment. I was told it was FTTP by the guy who installed it, so have no reason to doubt him.
Marco.
Sounds like a standard installation.
The white box probably looks like the one below, and has a distribution connector inside.
They have a single coax feed to the premises, and the service is then distributed to where the boxes (Tivo & router) are.
https://dash.coolsmartphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/wp-1490032608036-1.jpg
Correction - just looked, and it's brown!
Marco.
Sounds like a standard installation.
The white box probably looks like the one below, and has a distribution connector inside
FTTP also has a similar size white box inside the property - see the article I linked to ....
https://richardglover.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/IMAG0967-e1501112856655.jpg
Sounds like a standard installation.
The white box probably looks like the one below, and has a distribution connector inside.
They have a single coax feed to the premises, and the service is then distributed to where the boxes (Tivo & router) are.
https://dash.coolsmartphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/wp-1490032608036-1.jpg
From what I can see of it, the box looks different from that. The's also no phone socket, as the phone line goes through the router.
Marco.
FTTP also has a similar size white box inside the property - see the article I linked to ....
https://richardglover.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/IMAG0967-e1501112856655.jpg
That's *exactly* what I've got!:)
Marco.
From what I can see of it, the box looks different from that. The's also no phone socket, as the phone line goes through the router.
Marco.
That's right - the internal FTTP box also contains the phone line already separated (as pic above)
Cool... So FTTP it is!:)
Marco.
Stratmangler
09-09-2018, 09:56
I was unaware that Virgin actually did FTTP, so I've learned a bit about it today.
I don't think we'll be seeing it around here anytime soon - the infrastructure around the immediate vicinity was installed by Nynex a donkey's age ago, and it works well.
I'm on the FTTC service with a 200Mbps internet provision, not that I have any machines that can work with that fast a connection.
I think we've been one of the beneficiaries of this initiative/project: https://www.citysurveysgroup.co.uk/projects/actavo-virgin-media-fibre-premises-chester-wrexham/
I sometimes download music and movies, and since moving from Sky Fibre, the speed has been massively improved. Also, in terms of page-loading on websites, it's just instantaneous, with no lag or 'hanging', providing that there are no unavoidable issues elsewhere holding things back.
All in, it's been a major upgrade!:)
Marco.
I was unaware that Virgin actually did FTTP, so I've learned a bit about it today.
I don't think we'll be seeing it around here anytime soon -
Don't look like it - apart from a couple of prestige projects it looks like the rest of us Virgin customers can whistle dixie - viz this article:
"Project Lightning, you say? Virgin Media's fibre rollout is pretty glacial" (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/09/virgin_media_project_lightning_rollout/)
Do you mean in terms of FTTP, Mike? As you've already got the 300Mbps service with Virgin.
Marco.
spendorman
09-09-2018, 19:44
Not much point in me having a go, I've probably got the worst broadband service around. Anyway, tonight it's just piss-poor as opposed to the usual bloody awful. Doesn't seem to affect my internet use though. :)
http://i63.tinypic.com/so0lmc.png
Went to a friend's house in Harrow yesterday, she complained that her computer was slow, had a look at it, cleaned out some stuff, better, did an internet speed test, got 4.3 Mbps. I know that the router is about 10 years old, asked her to call Talktalk and get a new router.
Do you mean in terms of FTTP, Mike? As you've already got the 300Mbps service with Virgin.
Marco.
'Project Lightning' is indeed about rolling out FTTP to all users ... presumably as the copper cable link used for FTTC causes some kind of bottleneck that would hinder actual 'super fast' broadband.
To be honest I don't really understand because you still have a coax link in the house to the modem and Virgin box - even with FTTP - so if that's throttling the speed then the only further "upgrade" would be fibre optic right up to the modem/set top box.
Makes little sense to me ... but thereagain I've never been that good at predicting the future (I thought iPads were a really stupid idea that would cripple Apple's credibility.....)
'Project Lightning' is indeed about rolling out FTTP to all users ... presumably as the copper cable link used for FTTC causes some kind of bottleneck that would hinder actual 'super fast' broadband.
To be honest I don't really understand because you still have a coax link in the house to the modem and Virgin box - even with FTTP - so if that's throttling the speed then the only further "upgrade" would be fibre optic right up to the modem/set top box.
Hey, I'd be well up for that!:D
Hardly "throttling" the speed, though... Just managed slightly better results than I recorded last time:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/Ay7DJ2.png
I'll keep trying and see if I can get close to Gaz!
Marco.
spendorman
09-09-2018, 20:06
I've got only standard 2-wire copper telephone line internet from Talktalk, can't complain as this is close to the max that they offer under this system.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1844/43669229835_67eafb1a99_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/29wUdBM)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/29wUdBM) by A60man (https://www.flickr.com/photos/41679262@N02/), on Flickr
Stratmangler
09-09-2018, 20:11
'Project Lightning' is indeed about rolling out FTTP to all users ... presumably as the copper cable link used for FTTC causes some kind of bottleneck that would hinder actual 'super fast' broadband.
To be honest I don't really understand because you still have a coax link in the house to the modem and Virgin box - even with FTTP - so if that's throttling the speed then the only further "upgrade" would be fibre optic right up to the modem/set top box.
Makes little sense to me ... but thereagain I've never been that good at predicting the future (I thought iPads were a really stupid idea that would cripple Apple's credibility.....)
Having a fibre>coax converter makes a huge amount of sense at this point in time.
Virgin have a shedload of equipment in stock and on order that requires a coaxial connection.
And as the majority of the estate is FTTC it keeps the inventory small and manageable.
FTTP is of greater interest to BT than it is Virgin Media.
A huge chunk of BT's estate is fed overhead and by a single twisted pair. There's an immense amount of expenditure keeping customers in service.
The Virgin service is over much higher bandwidth coax cable, and pretty reliable. Once installed its upkeep is much less of an issue.
I thought that Virgin's FTTP product is synchronous? Same upload and download speeds.
Maybe Virgin (or whoever is running the show behind the scenes) don't want people running webservers or similar?
I thought that Virgin's FTTP product is synchronous? Same upload and download speeds.
Not that I'm aware of. The upload speeds are always significantly slower, perhaps for the reason you mention.
Marco.
Stratmangler
10-09-2018, 08:54
Having a fibre>coax converter makes a huge amount of sense at this point in time
I've been thinking further on this, and as far as domestic users go it's the only way to do things.
The fibres are not immune to breakage from rough handling, so having a closed box converter is the way around the problem.
Cables are far more robust than fibre.
I don't think synchronous means download and upload are same. It's the streams of data are synced with a clock so transmitter and reciever are in sync.
You can also get hyperoptic which is silly fast
I don't think synchronous means download and upload are same. It's the streams of data are synced with a clock so transmitter and reciever are in sync.
You can also get hyperoptic which is silly fastMaybe I'm using the wrong terminology. But basically I thought the tech cable internet connections use allow for the same upload and download speeds . Whereas copper connections are inherently difficult (impossible?) to achieve the same upload and download speeds.
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hifinutt
12-09-2018, 02:06
my son had a tantrum yesterday as he was complaining about the virgin internet speed !! he says it takes days for a download and wanted those mains adaptor thingies . it didn`t go down well when i pointed out they inject RFI into the system .. hence the tantrum :rolleyes:
my son had a tantrum yesterday as he was complaining about the virgin internet speed !! he says it takes days for a download...
You obviously don't have their super-fast fibre optic service then, Phil! What have you got that's so slow?:)
Marco.
Gaz's results earlier:
https://i.imgur.com/qvxzxzk.jpg?1
Catching up now. Less than 17Mbps in it... If the wind blows the right way, I might get there, lol:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/0f6isI.png
:cool:
Marco.
Get in there!:eyebrows:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/NX1mbU.png
Over to you now, Gaz... I'm sure you can beat it! I find that the Ping rate is important, as in general, the lower the Ping, the faster the download speed:)
Marco.
Stratmangler
14-09-2018, 07:27
Get in there!:eyebrows:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/NX1mbU.png
Over to you now, Gaz... I'm sure you can beat it! I find that the Ping rate is important, as in general, the lower the Ping, the faster the download speed:)
Marco.
Ping is not a rate. It's the time it takes to get an answer from the far end, nothing more.
Think of it a waking someone sleeping by prodding them a stick.
A ping of 8 thousandths of a second is a pretty quick response, I'll give you that, but it's on a high traffic server which no doubt sees a shedload of speed tests every hour.
Thanks for the clarification, Chris. I'll just call it the 'ping thingy' then, from now on!:D It does, however, appear to be connected somehow with download speed.
Yeah, defo not a high-traffic server... Just Del and I on our respective laptops. Still it's nice to see that we're getting the speeds we're paying for, which with some providers isn't always the case. It certainly makes software updates, to network connected equipment, and such like, happen in almost an instant!
Marco.
twas who you pinged that was the high traffic server.
Ah yes, I see... Still, daftee, you predicted the 'winner' too early!:ner:;)
Marco.
Ah yes, I see... Still, daftee, you predicted the 'winner' too early!:ner:;)
Marco.
wasnt expecting such an early ping :eyebrows:
Ring-a-ding-ping, tee-hee... I've usually better at PONGS than pings!:lol:
Marco.
the early pinger avoids a panty ponger
:lolsign:
I'll stop there, as otherwise my penchant for scatology will run away with itself!:eyebrows:
Marco.
Stratmangler
14-09-2018, 11:25
Thanks for the clarification, Chris. I'll just call it the 'ping thingy' then, from now on!:D It does, however, appear to be connected somehow with download speed.
Yeah, defo not a high-traffic server... Just Del and I on our respective laptops. Still it's nice to see that we're getting the speeds we're paying for, which with some providers isn't always the case. It certainly makes software updates, to network connected equipment, and such like, happen in almost an instant!
Marco.
The one doing the speed test for you is a very high traffic server.
Unlike the backwater server that hosts "The Art Of Sound" ;)
Lol, indeed... The cost of maintaining it though (for what it is), isn't quite so "backwater"!;)
Marco.
Stratmangler
14-09-2018, 11:29
Where's the "tongue in cheek" emoji when you need it?
And your point is, caller?
Marco.
Stratmangler
14-09-2018, 11:45
No point.
I could have used one a couple of posts ago ....
Ah, gotcha... We'll need to add a good one to the list:)
Marco.
Ive a few things on plus it's probably busy as schools are out
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180914/9c1cf4fc81ecf4674eccfec3f787747e.png
So that's fine
Yups, better than a slap on the foreskin with a red-hot teabag.
What's the "Jitter" readout about, I wonder? Perhaps Chris could explain... And does it affect the pong of one's ping?:hmm:
Marco.
think its the variation in the ping (latency)
Stratmangler
14-09-2018, 12:31
It looks like Grant is using a Smartphone app.
Yeah, 'cos I don't get that info on my Speedtests... Jitter isn't mentioned.
Marco.
Got this the other day....
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/IDAL5x.png
That's considerably faster than the 350Mbps I'm supposed to get... I suspect that the FTTP install might be a factor. Gonna try now for 400!:eyebrows:
Marco.
Just tested my phone there as internet should be quiet and Ive not got much running.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180922/63d554a606be6860f7bd809b18e0c338.png
It's about as high as I will get. The copper from the street is a big factor. In fact it's both old and probably not copper. Also it's not just next to house but out on front street
Living in a rural Devon village these days is interesting. I’m the early 60’s the GPO built a new telephone exchange about the size of a decent sized four bedroom house, which was filled to the brim with uniselectors. This fed out to nearby houses. and to two PCPs (green cabinets) distributing to the more distant parts of the village.
In the 80s, all the uniselectors were ripped out and replaced with a box of electronics about the size of a wardrobe, then ten years ago we got ADSL. If you were close to the exchange you got about 20 mb/s. Outlying farms maybe 1 or 2.
Then fibre came along. Fibre to the cabinet means exactly what it says. If your line goes directly to the exchange, you can’t have it, so they put a cabinet outside the exchange and fed all the direct lines to that instead. Brilliant! I now get a steady 70mb/s. Unfortunately they didn’t take fibre to the other two cabinets because they’re in dangerous roadside locations, so two third of the village don’t have fibre, and never will.
Enter Gigaclear. They are now in the horrendous process of digging up the entire village to bring FTTP to all. They’re even digging trenches out to local farms up to two miles away. They’ve made an enormous mess all over the place, caused massive disruption everywhere, and one of their 20 ton earthmoving lorries managed to write off my car last week but hey, that’s progress... once the dust has settled we’re promised anything up to 1gb/s. Happy days...
Is this good? We had ours upgraded.
Sorry for the bad image, I took a picture of my lap top screen and reduced the image size.
Great upload speed. The download is pretty decent too and fast enough for anything. The upload is truly impressive and you could do great things uploading stuff to clouds etc
I have a cat 5 e cable on the lap top and it is pretty beat up, a cat 6 A cable may do better ,I don't know?
Is this good? We had ours upgraded.
Sorry for the bad image, I took a picture of my lap top screen and reduced the image size.
I have a cat 5 e cable on the lap top and it is pretty beat up, a cat 6 A cable may do better ,I don't know?
I would love to have that upload speed. I only can get about 18mb. I'm currently uploading 2.3 tb of data and it is taking weeks!
Cat5e cable will be just fine, way above what you are seeing using Speedtest.
Is this good? We had ours upgraded.
Sorry for the bad image, I took a picture of my lap top screen and reduced the image size.
Hey, Jeff, nice to see you checking in again my friend! Hope all is well with the family and you?:)
That's an awesome upload speed - wish I could get that! In fact, I've no idea why the download speeds, available in this country, can be so good, but not equally matched by the upload speeds? The disparity between both, in my case, is huge! :confused:
Perhaps, someone like Chris could explain? Your download and upload speed is very evenly matched, so why isn't that the same here - or even somewhere approaching more even? Just curious!
I'm getting amazing download speeds of 380Mbps, yet only 21/22Mbps uploads - *why*...? Why not even 93Mbps, like Jeff?:hmm:
I'd argue that, in the real world, Jeff's results are the more useful, as 90+ Mbps downloads is more than ample for the vast majority of people's needs, and coupled with such an amazing upload speed, makes the service he's getting ultimately better than mine.
Come on techies, let's hear your thoughts on this! :cool:
Meanwhile, the other day, I just pipped my previous best:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/RfgKgX.png
Marco.
Living in a rural Devon village these days is interesting. I’m the early 60’s the GPO built a new telephone exchange about the size of a decent sized four bedroom house, which was filled to the brim with uniselectors. This fed out to nearby houses. and to two PCPs (green cabinets) distributing to the more distant parts of the village.
In the 80s, all the uniselectors were ripped out and replaced with a box of electronics about the size of a wardrobe, then ten years ago we got ADSL. If you were close to the exchange you got about 20 mb/s. Outlying farms maybe 1 or 2.
Then fibre came along. Fibre to the cabinet means exactly what it says. If your line goes directly to the exchange, you can’t have it, so they put a cabinet outside the exchange and fed all the direct lines to that instead. Brilliant! I now get a steady 70mb/s. Unfortunately they didn’t take fibre to the other two cabinets because they’re in dangerous roadside locations, so two third of the village don’t have fibre, and never will.
Enter Gigaclear. They are now in the horrendous process of digging up the entire village to bring FTTP to all. They’re even digging trenches out to local farms up to two miles away. They’ve made an enormous mess all over the place, caused massive disruption everywhere, and one of their 20 ton earthmoving lorries managed to write off my car last week but hey, that’s progress... once the dust has settled we’re promised anything up to 1gb/s. Happy days...
Interesting story, Shane, so thanks for sharing. The sustained disruption was pretty similar here, although thankfully I didn't see any damage to cars. If super-fast/reliable broadband is important to you, it'll all be worth it in the end!:)
Marco.
It's asymmetric because it was made that way basically. Costs were the main factor and after looking at what they THOUGHT was the demand went for it.
Physics plays its part in that you can only get so much traffic on a road. If you make the road 2 way in equal proportions then either you build a bigger road or reduce the traffic one way to increase it the other. Afaik
It's asymmetric because it was made that way basically.
So why isn't it asymmetric in Jeff's case?
Marco.
So isn't it asymmetric in Jeff's case?
Marco.
it is symmetric in that it has equal symmetry in each direction; give or take. unusual to get as i say because decisions were made as to what they thought you wanted. tbh it wouldnt be much dearer to do if your going straight to house; just cost of another cable, as long as its put in at beginning. some services say they are symetric but obviously arnt as you still get piss poor uploads in comparison.
Soz. I missed out the word "why" in my last question, which completely changed the context!:doh:
Perhaps it would be better to ask why, in Jeff's case, is it symmetric, and so heavily asymmetric here (certainly with all the results I've seen posted)?
It would also be interesting to find out how Jeff has achieved such symmetry (i.e. what's technically in place in his installation/service provision to cause those results), and is it typical of others in his area? :hmm:
Marco.
usual versions of it are with leased lines, ethernet in the first mile and ethernet over fibre To The cabinet. mostly used by business that need a good upload speed. think he is in n america so things may be different over there. of course its usually much dearer
Yup, fair enough. In that respect, it would be interesting knowing what Jeff pays for his broadband provision. I still think that something should be done here to level the disparity between download and upload speeds.
Let's face it, few people will fully utilise download speeds of 350+Mbps. However, I suspect that many would benefit from considerably faster upload speeds, than 22Mbps!
Not me though, as I upload hee-haw.
Marco.
hifilover
24-09-2018, 10:55
We're on 300mbps via Virgin fibre
I'm on the web all day for my business and use iTunes/Apple TVs/Amazon PrimeNetflix for all films and music; but we use nowhere near the download capability! No idea how I could
Still; it's great as it's super fast and generally faultless
I completely concur, Dan. However, if available, would you make good use of much faster upload speeds than you're currently getting?:)
Marco.
Taken 5 mins ago, not too shabby for peak daytime?https://i.imgur.com/hYPnATR.jpg
GECHIN THERE, my son!! :clap::eyebrows:
I wonder why yer ping rate's so high though?:hmm:
Marco.
Stratmangler
24-09-2018, 11:27
GECHIN THERE, my son!! :clap::eyebrows:
I wonder why yer ping rate's so high though?:hmm:
Marco.
He's obviously hit an open port that was on the Buckie last night :eyebrows:
Wonder the same Marco, were paying for 350MB but getting 380+?
Not that I'm complaining!
I'm using my VM Superhub in "modem mode" (switches off all router activity) and feed signal to a router in the listening room.
Could be that...dunno.
Doesn't seem to affect anything, so not too fussed.
He's obviously hit an open port that was on the Buckie last night :eyebrows:
Buckie...sheesh!
Wonder the same Marco, were paying for 350MB but getting 380+?
Not that I'm complaining!
I'm using my VM Superhub in "modem mode" (switches off all router activity) and feed signal to a router in the listening room.
Could be that...dunno.
Indeed not, me neither:D
I haven't touched my Superhub, as I know nowt about them, so didn't want to mess anything up. How do you activate "modern mode"?
However, I don't think I'd want it on, in our circumstances, as we only have one router (a VM Superhub, like yours, in our hall), which supplies both of our V6 Tivo boxes (one in the lounge and one in the bedroom), and the hard-drives for my streaming setup. The latter are inches away from each other, on the same shelf as the router.
Why would you need a separate router in your listening room?
Just curious!:)
Marco.
Has anyone out there got G-Fast yet? If so, how have you got on with it?
Never heard of it. Details please?:)
Marco.
its bt's superfast or hyperfast, but still uses the phone line. guaranteed min 100mbs...
G-Fast is an enhanced FTTC technology which Openreach are rolling out gradually. It supposedly gives speeds of 100 to 330 mb/s down a standard Cooper line, but is very dependant on loop length and really only works over a couple of hundred metres so not everyone can get it, and those who can are going to be the ones who get the best service on standard fibre anyway. Most service providers offer it now under different names. EE call it Fibre Max Plus, and I have seen a couple of customers getting a genuine 300mb/s, but there aren’t many of them yet.
http://www.homeandbusiness.openreach.co.uk/fibre-broadband/ultrafast-broadband/ultrafast-fibre-g.fast
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2018/06/openreach-reveal-next-uk-areas-for-g-fast-ultrafast-broadband.html
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2018/08/openreach-to-scale-back-rollout-of-g-fast-broadband-focus-on-fttp.html
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2018/06/ee-uk-launch-new-145mbps-and-300mbps-fibre-max-broadband-plans.html
As as far as I can see it’s a stopgap measure to deflect criticism of the lack of progress of Openreach towards universal FTTP.
hifilover
24-09-2018, 13:37
Indeed not, me neither:D
I haven't touched my Superhub, as I know nowt about them, so didn't want to mess anything up. How do you activate "modern mode"?
However, I don't think I'd want it on, in our circumstances, as we only have one router (a VM Superhub, like yours, in our hall), which supplies both of our V6 Tivo boxes (one in the lounge and one in the bedroom), and the hard-drives for my streaming setup. The latter are inches away from each other, on the same shelf as the router.
Why would you need a separate router in your listening room?
Just curious!:)
Marco.
Log into the settings page (details probably on the bottom of your Superhub) and you can turn it into modem only mode in there
Very easy to do; as well as renaming your wifi channels etc
My Mac is hardwired into the Superhub 3 and then everything is via the 5hz wifi etc
cant do it with talktalk's shitty router.:D still, its a financially good stopgap as price is capped.
has bt's service centre improved yet? or are they still operating from india
Indeed not, me neither:D
I haven't touched my Superhub, as I know nowt about them, so didn't want to mess anything up. How do you activate "modern mode"?
However, I don't think I'd want it on, in our circumstances, as we only have one router (a VM Superhub, like yours, in our hall), which supplies both of our V6 Tivo boxes (one in the lounge and one in the bedroom), and the hard-drives for my streaming setup. The latter are inches away from each other, on the same shelf as the router.
Why would you need a separate router in your listening room?
Just curious!:)
Marco.
Seperate Router in listening room?
Few reasons.
Wireless aint good in my place and wanted to place it where it was needed.
Could run a wireless repeater, sure, but its extra boxes and im trying to keep network as clean and simple as possible.
Most of my kit is internet enabled, so wanted to run key components by ethernet rather than wifi.
Placing it in the system rack allows it to be powered by a linear psu fed from the balanced mains unit, so removes noisy switching power supply.
Oh, and got this one for the aesthetics, It looks very cool sitting under the Dac. :)
https://assets.hardwarezone.com/img/2016/12/dlink-895-intro1.jpg
Half Life head crab...?
Bonnet of a red Alfa?
Stargate Egyptian ship?
whatever...:)
Like the design of it.
yeah, a Stargate Egyptian warship
Stratmangler
25-09-2018, 12:16
https://assets.hardwarezone.com/img/2016/12/dlink-895-intro1.jpg
Is it dead?
Totally understood, Gaz, and I love that router! Where did you get it from, mate?
However... You realise that in putting it there, you've succeeded in placing a major source of RFI, right next to your system, and furthermore by connecting it to the mains supply directly feeding your system, polluting that supply (with noise), potentially to your system's sonic detriment... Just sayin'!
So maybe something to consider, if that is, there is another viable option?:)
In my case, all the 'dirty shit' (capable of spraying out RFI), required to facilitate my Internet usage and music/film streaming, including the Virgin Superhub, is located in the hallway, well away from my kit, and all powered by a dedicated and fully regulated linear PSU (which Duncan built me), to prevent the injection of 'switching noise' into the mains supply, generated by equipment fitted with SMPS.
Everything operates with no glitches, wirelessly, save The Raspberry Pi (which has its own linear PSU) and is hardwired to the router in the hall, via one of your excellent (recommended) ethernet cables, thus isolating the 'dirty shit' from all my AV and hi-fi gear. Dunno if you could do something similar?:cool:
Marco.
Hear what your saying mate, and I thought about that when plumbing it all in.
Its ok.
All the network kit is powered by linear supplies and I compared the sound between having it there and in the other room.
Didn't hear any difference so all good.
Routers this one
https://eu.dlink.com/uk/en/products/dir-885l-ac3150-mumimo-ultra-wifi-router
Is it dead?
It's still laying eggs so not sure...
Hear what your saying mate, and I thought about that when plumbing it all in.
Its ok.
All the network kit is powered by linear supplies and I compared the sound between having it there and in the other room.
Didn't hear any difference so all good.
Routers this one
https://eu.dlink.com/uk/en/products/dir-885l-ac3150-mumimo-ultra-wifi-router
Excellento (on all counts)! :thumbsup:
Looks like it's doing the 'Dying Fly'... Remember that on Tiswas?:D
Marco.
Oh yeah. :)
That and the Phantom Flan Flinger...
And Sally James, but thats a different story.
Excellento (on all counts)! :thumbsup:
Looks like it's doing the 'Dying Fly'... Remember that on Tiswas?:D
Marco.
Hey Marco,
I will have time to post a little more tonight, both work and my son Conner's baseball is killing me but I wanted to get back to you.
We have fiber 100/100 mbps $89.95 per month and a list of taxes and fees that would chock a horse.
Our house is on fiber optic to the box outside and inside is wired with cat 5 and cat 7.
Conner is 9 now and I am asst. coach for his Little League baseball team, He pitches, catches and plays short stop, He also just finished from being on a travel team.
And he plays basketball in the off season as well as doing 3 baseball practices a week at Extra innings and 2 weeks of Baseball camp at Sierra Collage with infield coach Kyle.
He has done a year at AAA level and next year I may let him advance to majors, he has always played up but I worry about him playing with kids so much older.
And if he is a 9 year old on a team of 11 and 12 year olds he will have few opportunities to pitch or catch for at least the first season. He will earn his place in the line up fast because he is a clutch hitter,just 2 times struck out over the last 12 games! average 3 to 4 at bats per game. Only one home run but lots of triples and doubles.
He is only one of 2 kids on the team who can swing wood, the are still using alloy. Our rule is alloy in the spring,wood in the fall. Wood is harder to hit,like blades vs. cavity backs in golf.
Tonight there is no practice or game.
Oh yeah. :)
That and the Phantom Flan Flinger...
And Sally James, but thats a different story.
Heh-heh... Bet she caused a few 'tented trousers', back in the day:eyebrows:
Marco.
Hey Marco,
I will have time to post a little more tonight, both work and my son Conner's baseball is killing me but I wanted to get back to you.
We have fiber 100/100 mbps $89.95 per month and a list of taxes and fees that would chock a horse.
Our house is on fiber optic to the box outside and inside is wired with cat 5 and cat 7.
Conner is 9 now and I am asst. coach for his Little League baseball team, He pitches, catches and plays short stop, He also just finished from being on a travel team.
And he plays basketball in the off season as well as doing 3 baseball practices a week at Extra innings and 2 weeks of Baseball camp at Sierra Collage with infield coach Kyle.
He has done a year at AAA level and next year I may let him advance to majors, he has always played up but I worry about him playing with kids so much older.
And if he is a 9 year old on a team of 11 and 12 year olds he will have few opportunities to pitch or catch for at least the first season. He will earn his place in the line up fast because he is a clutch hitter,just 2 times struck out over the last 12 games! average 3 to 4 at bats per game. Only one home run but lots of triples and doubles.
He is only one of 2 kids on the team who can swing wood, the are still using alloy. Our rule is alloy in the spring,wood in the fall. Wood is harder to hit,like blades vs. cavity backs in golf.
Tonight there is no practice or game.
Hey, Jeff, good to see the little lad doing so well, and with such an active interest in sport! I know that baseball's huge out there, so I hope he continues to apply himself and progress through the ranks!:cool:
Noted on your fiber broadband... So is that $89.95 per month, just for your Internet, or is there a TV/sports package or telephone service included? Quite impressive speeds you're getting there, especially uploads! Wonder if its your cabling?:)
Marco.
Yes, just for internet.
Our store is much faster , but also more expensive.
Conner has his gameing computer at our store in the back. Even with our credit card system and sound system pulling on it and our employees phones linked up at times.
It is nearly 2x faster than our house .
There used to be a florist shop where we are now and they had FTD and of their services linked on a server.
The fiber-optic that goes to our store is just crazy and so is the internal wiring in the walls. Our store bill is $250 a month just for Internet.
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Great result, Andrew! I presume you're with Virgin?:)
Marco.
Great result, Andrew! I presume you're with Virgin?:)
Marco.
Thanks Marco ,unfortunately we’re unable to get any virgin services in Milton Keynes , I think BT did some sort of deal back in the 70’s. I have the BT Halo 900, £15 per month more than what we were paying.
Now I’m on a mission to reach the 900mbps .[emoji16]
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I'm pretty sure that Bucharest has the fastest internet speeds in Europe, currently.
Don't go BT mate, go Virgin. For super-fast Internet speeds, there's no-one to touch them!:)
Marco.
The customer service is the worst I have ever experienced, however.
I’ve been with BT broadband for around 20 years and not once had an issue , this upgrade went perfectly too , the new hub arrived within 24hrs and the following day the service was up and running, I hope to get around 700mbps once I upgrade my network card . My PS4 though will only handle 58mbps [emoji22]
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The customer service is the worst I have ever experienced, however.
Up until recently I would agree, but when I was upgraded to their new "Ultimate Oomph Bundle", the service couldn't have been better: a fast, efficient and seamless, trouble-free transfer to my new package, where I'm now enjoying the speeds you see below:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/B3Yjc9.png
Marco.
I’ve been with BT broadband for around 20 years and not once had an issue , this upgrade went perfectly too , the new hub arrived within 24hrs and the following day the service was up and running, I hope to get around 700mbps once I upgrade my network card . My PS4 though will only handle 58mbps [emoji22]
Nice one, Andrew. I didn't even realise that such speeds were available!:eek:
Enjoy when it comes!:cool:
Marco.
Up until recently I would agree, but when I was upgraded to their new "Ultimate Oomph Bundle", the service couldn't have been better: a fast, efficient and seamless, trouble-free transfer to my new package, where I'm now enjoying the speeds you see below:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/B3Yjc9.png
Marco.I mean their customer service. If your system goes wrong, they are utterly inept, IME.
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Yeah, I know what you mean, as I've experienced that a couple of times at the beginning when I needed to call them. There's a big difference though between their call centres in India or Ireland, and if you're lucky to get through to the latter, it's a different ballgame:)
Marco.
Now I’m happy...
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Audio Al
30-05-2020, 12:40
My one is so fast this message has already arrived before I finnished typing it WooooooooooSH
:sofa::door:
Now I’m happy...
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Hahahaha... That's just madness!!:D
Enjoy:cool:
Marco.
hifinutt
04-06-2020, 19:24
Recently ordered a brand new virgin set up on Friday, all fitted by engineer 4 days later. Brilliant service . Only had good service in several locations.
Dropped nearly £40pm on my mobile contract on renewal, as it happened my VM broadband was up at the same time, so upgraded that.
All said n done, I'm nearly 30 quid a month better off and there's this...
Crikey :eek:
https://i.imgur.com/KHVe9kg.jpg
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