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mikeyb
31-08-2018, 08:45
Still on the lookout for valve pre to pair with my Primaluna power amp and Tannoy Berkeley speakers.

Currently using a Promitheus TVC ( which will come up for sale once I have replaced it) but looking for something else.

Have tried various passives including Tisbury, BTE, as well as Pass DCB1 none of which I liked.

So on the lookout for a Conrad Johnson PV12, Croft 25R, Herron VTSP or of similar quality/spec.

Listen to Classic/Prog Rock, Electronic ( Berlin School ), Female Vocal and acoustic.

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hifi_dave
31-08-2018, 08:47
www.radlettaudio.co.uk

mikeyb
31-08-2018, 08:52
www.radlettaudio.co.ukThanks, but looking for something a little cheaper, last 25R that sold went for £700 over on PFM and just as I had decided to buy it, it sold [emoji849]

So looking for around the same budget or less of course [emoji6]

JohnJo
31-08-2018, 08:59
Hi Mike, have you considered a cheap valve buffer along with a passive pre?

That's what I use with my Primaluna Prologue power amp and Tannoy HPDs and it's great.

Just a thought.

mikeyb
31-08-2018, 10:06
Hi Mike, have you considered a cheap valve buffer along with a passive pre?

That's what I use with my Primaluna Prologue power amp and Tannoy HPDs and it's great.

Just a thought.No I hadn't but I will now [emoji6]

I'm a noob when it comes to HiFi gear and all its mysterious options, but I do know what sound I like and want and the TVC is just not quite there.

Mind you it was only bought as a cheap temporary pre amp anyway and it's done well so far, I just want more lol

Andy831
31-08-2018, 10:52
I just want more lol

More what Mike? what do you think the current set up is not doing well, are you finding it all a bit "thin"? or is it something else?

I have a selection of passives and actives with an 845 power amp and Tannoy GRF Memory's and every time I have a swop around I always seem to end up back with the passives (Glasshouse TVC, nva P50sa.)

I tried a Croft (the basic 25 and it lasted 25 minutes before I sold it, it just did not gel with me or my system)

I too had not thought about a tube buffer after the passive so I will look at your progress with this if you try it with some interest. :)


Andy

Bigman80
31-08-2018, 11:06
This is reputedly good: http://glass-ware.stores.yahoo.net/acf12stbu.html

Coupled to this: www.khozmo.com

= very interesting indeed.

Audio Al
31-08-2018, 13:06
Thanks, but looking for something a little cheaper, last 25R that sold went for £700 over on PFM and just as I had decided to buy it, it sold [emoji849]

So looking for around the same budget or less of course [emoji6]

:D;)

Firebottle
31-08-2018, 14:07
Still on the lookout for valve pre to pair with my Primaluna power amp and Tannoy Berkeley speakers.

Currently using a Promitheus TVC ( which will come up for sale once I have replaced it) but looking for something else.

Have tried various passives including Tisbury, BTE, as well as Pass DCB1 none of which I liked.

So on the lookout for a Conrad Johnson PV12, Croft 25R, Herron VTSP or of similar quality/spec.

Listen to Classic/Prog Rock, Electronic ( Berlin School ), Female Vocal and acoustic.

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I just don't get you Mike, or rather what type of sound you are after.
When you had the Pass DCB1 did you have that wired in after your Promitheus TVC? I would have thought that would sound very good.

Do you still have the DCB1? I can suggest a remote control passive that sounds excellent, indeed stellar when rewired with OCC wire. This followed by the DCB1 or similar is the business.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volume-Remote-Control-Relay-128-Steps-Exponential-Constant-input-impedance-4-CH/142811721459?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Bigman80
31-08-2018, 18:07
This is the online shop for tubecad
http://tubecad.com/
It's an extremely informative website with some serious engineering analysis - though a bit of a heavy read at times. The whole site is well worth exploring.[emoji106]

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Alan D
31-08-2018, 20:19
I just don't get you Mike, or rather what type of sound you are after.
When you had the Pass DCB1 did you have that wired in after your Promitheus TVC? I would have thought that would sound very good.

Do you still have the DCB1? I can suggest a remote control passive that sounds excellent, indeed stellar when rewired with OCC wire. This followed by the DCB1 or similar is the business.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volume-Remote-Control-Relay-128-Steps-Exponential-Constant-input-impedance-4-CH/142811721459?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

I may try one of these remote control passives in place of my Tisbury.
Which OCC wire do you suggest for the rewire.
Also thought I might remove the transformer and mains from the case and feed DC in.

Firebottle
31-08-2018, 20:41
The Dc is totally unconnected with the audio path, so IMO is not worth removing the tx and mains.

nickbaba
01-09-2018, 08:26
Didn't you like the AD Satchmo, Mikey? I had the same unit on demo recently and thought it was very impressive. in fact hard to imagine a better active pre, if that's what you're looking for. Bit pricey tho', considering your stated budget.

Bigman80
01-09-2018, 11:11
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Get rid of the Alps blue and it might have half a chance of making you happy!!

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hifinutt
01-09-2018, 11:20
Didn't you like the AD Satchmo, Mikey? I had the same unit on demo recently and thought it was very impressive. in fact hard to imagine a better active pre, if that's what you're looking for. Bit pricey tho', considering your stated budget.

thats interesting , i would like to try the satchmo too