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Jac Hawk
20-08-2018, 11:15
i'm looking at maybe upgrading my 26cm acrylic platter to a Delrin Platter for my Planar 3, Delrin platters are quite expensive though and i've never heard a deck with one so i though i'd ask for some help and insight
walpurgis
20-08-2018, 13:26
Personally, I'd do a little research and see how stiffness, mass and internal damping chacteristics, etc. compare. Is there info out there to suggest Delrin is notably superior? I would actually be surprised if there's much in it.
Jac Hawk
20-08-2018, 13:53
Personally, I'd do a little research and see how stiffness, mass and internal damping chacteristics, etc. compare. Is there info out there to suggest Delrin is notably superior? I would actually be surprised if there's much in it.
Delrin has both better rigidity and much higher mass than acrylic, it apparently also shares many of the same properties of vinyl itself, i've been looking at the Groovetracer offering but it's going to set me back about £300 my dilemma is would i get more out from spending that money on say a better cart
walpurgis
20-08-2018, 14:00
That is interesting. Delrin is not a material I've really looked into.
Stryder5
20-08-2018, 14:14
That is interesting. Delrin is not a material I've really looked into.
Delrin is hard and used in high stress bearings instead of say Nylon66, amongst many other applications, it is rigid easily machined to high tolerances, and is certainly more dense than acrylic.
Google is your friend, but I have no idea of its sonic benefits.
Gary
Wakefield Turntables
20-08-2018, 17:01
£300 for a platter is peanuts (i appreciate its a lot of money), try looking a Garrard 301 platter easily £800 on ebay. Mental mental chicken oriental if you ask me!!
I've used a lot of Delrin (which is a trade name) and its very nice to machine, much easier to machine than acrylic which has a really annoying low melting temp. However, in terms of replacing an acrylic platter with one made of Delrin I wouldn't expect much sonic difference.
Vrajbasi
20-08-2018, 17:55
I have had on loan a systendek reference turntable with a delrin platter which does sound very big and powerful and quite warm, I have heard a townshend rock v with an acrylic platter and a delin platter in this instance the derlinf platter sounded more powerful and deeper the acrylic platter was more dynamic and very detailed I preffred the warmer sound of the derlin and the scale it produced.
Do you mean the Rock had Delrin and acrylic mats, because I’m not aware of any generations having actual platters made out of these materials?
Vrajbasi
20-08-2018, 19:04
Do you mean the Rock had Delrin and acrylic mats, because I’m not aware of any generations having actual platters made out of these materials?
A good friend of mine has a modified Rock V and had two platters machined One in Delrin and one in acrylic.
Ah, that clears that up then.
Actually, now I think about it, I’m sure I’ve seen pictures of the V with a black platter that could well be Delrin, also a white platter (Delrin is also available in white).
Jac Hawk
20-08-2018, 19:39
£300 for a platter is peanuts (i appreciate its a lot of money), try looking a Garrard 301 platter easily £800 on ebay. Mental mental chicken oriental if you ask me!!
£300 for a piece of machined plastic for want of a better word isn't cheap in my books, anything to do with hifi and especially TT's seems to carry a premium price nowadays though
Jac Hawk
20-08-2018, 19:39
Thanks for the advice and insight guys
Vrajbasi
21-08-2018, 10:48
Ah, that clears that up then.
Actually, now I think about it, I’m sure I’ve seen pictures of the V with a black platter that could well be Delrin, also a white platter (Delrin is also available in white).
The Rock V was produced originally with a black Delrin platter and the production turntables were a white HDPE, my friend had a black delrin platter machined. I have heard both the black delrin and the white Hdpe the sound is very different in this application. The Delrin was richer and fuller with a deep bass the Hdpe was obviously thinner and lighter.
Spectral Morn
21-08-2018, 11:00
My concern is that turntables are a finely balanced design with all sorts of factors blended into the design, so replacing a plater on a design that may be a very fine balance could see that new element throw the design so far out of wack it destroys the sound, performance.
Frankly I think you should sell the TT and use that cash + the £300 to buy a new turntable, plenty of options out there both new and on the used market.
mayebaza
21-08-2018, 17:03
From experience, I would start with the Subplatter, it will have a more significant impact on improving the quality of sound. Tangospinner or Michael Limm are cheaper than Grovetracer. That being said, Groovetracer's engineering is of the highest order.
Jac Hawk
21-08-2018, 18:35
From experience, I would start with the Subplatter, it will have a more significant impact on improving the quality of sound. Tangospinner or Michael Limm are cheaper than Grovetracer. That being said, Groovetracer's engineering is of the highest order.
Already upgraded the subplatter to a Fidelity Designs model i'm very pleased with it, i've also upgraded the pulley to a twin belt design, the only thing left on the deck that's original is the plinth and baring and i was advised by Jonny from Audio Origami not to bother changing the baring as the Rega stock offering was just about as good as you can get, so far the upgrades have improved things, so i don't see the point in selling and starting again
mayebaza
21-08-2018, 20:08
I did upgrade my brass bearing to ceramic one and bearing. Using two rubber grometts as insulating sleeving. This also was a significant upgrade to the original in my experience.
There's a lot you can do to an Rega Planar 3.... Behold the Bazbo III! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180821/5f2ae9ab9f13679f65675d3cbe4a4d2c.jpg
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The Rock V was produced originally with a black Delrin platter and the production turntables were a white HDPE, my friend had a black delrin platter machined. I have heard both the black delrin and the white Hdpe the sound is very different in this application. The Delrin was richer and fuller with a deep bass the Hdpe was obviously thinner and lighter.
Many thanks, very interesting.
Jac Hawk
22-08-2018, 08:08
I did upgrade my brass bearing to ceramic one and bearing. Using two rubber grometts as insulating sleeving. This also was a significant upgrade to the original in my experience.
There's a lot you can do to an Rega Planar 3.... Behold the Bazbo III! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180821/5f2ae9ab9f13679f65675d3cbe4a4d2c.jpg
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Very nice
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