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Minstrel SE
23-07-2018, 23:13
Hi
I am going to be working on a Hotel bar for some extra income. Its a smallish bar that doesnt do cocktails or anything too complicated. It does have a large Gin Bar section and Ive been learning about all the drinks and what they are distilled from. I have other duties in the hotel so its going to be quite pressured as a bar person
Do you think I will be able to learn fairly quickly as a good barman is worth their weight in gold. I can make the simpler drinks with ice and pull a pint. With lots of concentrated study I can get up to speed
The shots and wine go in measuring containers so I dont have to free pour like they do a lot in fancy joints
The other night a lovely lady was in from Tasmania of all places. Lovely and the job is looking good :)
Learning the Pos system doesnt look too hard. I can certainly be more friendly than some youngsters you see in chain pubs. I doubt I will relate to every customer but Im naturally friendly if a bit on the shyer side. Im not going to be telling jokes to the crowd but I like a good chat if I ever get the time
Just fancied a chat on my favourite forum. What qualities would you look for in someone that is serving you a drink?
What am I actually letting myself in for :)
Best wishes
Martin
Having worked as a hotel barman in West Wales for 2 years in the early 80s, the thing I learnt was being a good listener, but to not push myself on people. A smile works wonders.
My biggest thing was serving in order and taking the time to know who was waiting in line, it really irks when bar staff just serve whoever shouts the loudest. Most people know where they are in relation to waiting to be served, so if you get it wrong it can be annoying. That's still my biggest beef with bar staff, it's just lazy, so for me if that's right I'm happy. Oh, short pints too, that's annoying and people who don't know how to pull a pint of Guinness. It's actually not hard, just takes time and you can serve two people at once if one wants a Guinness.
If it's a busy bar you soon learn the drinks and these days I guess you don't have to remember how much things cost anymore, that's what took most of my time learning.
So for me, if they are polite, have served me in the correct order, not overcharged me and know how to pull a 'full' pint of Guinness, then I'm golden.
Enjoy, I had a lot of fun when I did it as I was single at the time :)
narabdela
24-07-2018, 07:35
It's almost 40 years since I worked in a bar, but in a busy bar, the real skill is keeping an eye on the crowd in front of you while you're working and knowing the order in which to serve them.
It seems to be a dying art these days. :(
EDIT: Just noticed that Tim addressed the same issue in the post above. As he says it's just lazy, but it seems to be the norm nowadays.
The Black Adder
24-07-2018, 07:39
Enthusiasm, knowledge, order priority and a bit of cheeky banter. Just like any job you need to 'fit in'.
Its difficult being behind the bar but with a good attitude it can make it a whole lot easier. But some people treat it as a chore like fast food outlets.
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hifi_dave
24-07-2018, 09:12
Efficient and friendly.
walpurgis
24-07-2018, 09:21
My daughter is the best barmaid I've ever seen. She worked at my local for about five years and was hugely popular. She's friendly, amazingly efficient, makes a point of knowing and chatting to regulars, clocks everybody entering and makes sure nobody is kept waiting. Her being very pretty no doubt helps.
She has a similar job on the east coast now.
Heh Grant
I saw the title of this thread and thought "Should I? Perhaps not. No I will not". Then I saw you did it!. :lol:
WESTLOWER
24-07-2018, 09:46
Heh Grant
I saw the title of this thread and thought "Should I? Perhaps not. No I will not". Then I saw you did it!. :lol:
Hmmm... sometimes this forum resembles a 70's 'Carry On'!
narabdela
24-07-2018, 09:53
Hmmm... sometimes this forum resembles a 70's 'Carry On'!
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/02/5e/af/025eafb4634af7e1988d17fd624e01db.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qxtx6KEAF40
Pigmy Pony
24-07-2018, 19:58
Eye contact. I find eye contact goes a long way, makes you look interested, people like that. Especially important with women (Oi! I'm up here!) And as has been said before, make a mental note of who's next to be served.
Nearly 40 years since I worked in a bar (Addison's in Preston). Some real 'characters', had some fun, became top scorer on 'Asteroids' game. Eventually the old geezer regulars started to get on my wick (they would demand their drink and chuck the money (usually a shit-load of coins) on the bar, for me to scoop up, and when I was giving them their change they would expect it placed in their hand. So it was punch someone's clock or jack the job.
So a tolerant nature would be another big plus!
Oh and don't be getting pissed while working, the management don't like that.
Heh Grant
I saw the title of this thread and thought "Should I? Perhaps not. No I will not". Then I saw you did it!. :lol:
Was a barman and bar manager for some years. Every bar is different basically by its clientele so needs different styles
One main thing for me is mega-important, and which no-one has so far mentioned, and that is.... Don't be too preoccupied with simply serving drinks, to FORGET ABOUT CLEARING AWAY THE EMPTY GLASSES!!;)
Nothing roasts my dome more in a pub, particularly places where food is served, when you can't find a table to sit down at that isn't strewn with dirty glasses, plates, cutlery, bits of spilled food - so yes, WIPE THE TABLES CLEAN, TOO!
Basically, ensuring the highest standards of cleanliness around the bar area itself and the accompanying tables, for me is a big thing, so customers can walk in and immediately sit down at a nice clean, tidy table:)
Just to clarify, Martin, will it be somewhere you'll be serving food? If so, there are plenty of other things I'll mention.
Also, if it's a pub that serves various kinds of real ales, then get to know what each one tastes like, so that you're able to explain to customers who ask before they order it. That's a service I usually need, as I like trying different local ales, and so often don't know what they're like until I try them.
I'm not a creature of habit who drinks the same shit all the time. Basically, I rarely know what I fancy to drink until I get there. The same also applies with wine. Get to know the different styles of red and white wine you're serving, which ones are drier, heavier/lighter, more acidic, fruitier, etc, so you can advise anyone who asks.
That'll do for now. I'm sure I'll think of more!
Marco.
narabdela
25-07-2018, 10:50
Don't be too preoccupied with simply serving drinks, to FORGET ABOUT CLEARING AWAY THE EMPTY GLASSES!!;)
Nothing roasts my dome more in a pub, particularly places where food is served, when you can't find a table to sit down at that isn't strewn with dirty glasses, plates, cutlery, bits of food - so yes, WIPE THE TABLES CLEAN, TOO!
Amen to that! :thumbsup:
Get to know the different styles of red and white wine you're serving, which is drier, heavier/lighter, more acidic, fruitier, etc, so you can advise anyone who asks.
It's not uncommon nowadays, when requesting a glass of Merlot, to be asked " er...is that red or white?". :rolleyes:
It's not uncommon nowadays, when requesting a glass of Merlot, to be asked " er...is that red or white?". :rolleyes:
To which the usual answer is 'yes'.
Amen to that! :thumbsup:
Quite simply, it's fundamental. The job of bar staff is to clear up as well as serve, and often the former gets forgotten!
Firstly, if I can't get a seat at a table in a pub or bar (as I want to relax, sit down with my wife or friends and have a chat, all together), I'll walk out, and secondly, if there are no clean tables free, I'll likely do the same, as I don't want to be sitting in among someone else's mess.
It's not uncommon nowadays, when requesting a glass of Merlot, to be asked " er...is that red or white?". :rolleyes:
Oh FFS, such ignorance is inexcusable!:doh:
Golden rule in sales (and yes a barman is essentially a sales job), always know your product.
Marco.
Firebottle
25-07-2018, 15:10
t's not uncommon nowadays, when requesting a glass of Merlot, to be asked " er...is that red or white?". :rolleyes:
Gordon Bennett (oh and I think he was pink)
Pigmy Pony
25-07-2018, 16:04
Everything Marco has said, plus be sure to put down fresh sawdust every day. Nothing worse than skidding on yesterday's vomit :(
Remember when there was sawdust on the floor in pubs? Those were the days.
Pubs never had windows you could see in, and the entrance was always through 2 doors so even if someone was going in or out you could not see in.
Old men in 3 piece suits and flat caps. Proper smoky atmosphere, everyone would have a pipe or a ciggy on the go. valve jukeboxes with proper records on them, not 'the charts'.
We have lost so much.
I could not do bar work now, those stupid electronic tills, what a load of bollocks they are. Any decent barman just added up the cost of the round in his head and rang it in the till. Ten times faster. Now they stand there for ten minutes going '1 pint of Stella' - click ' one gin' - click - 'one tonic' -click... The world is run by morons for morons.
Remember when there was sawdust on the floor in pubs? Those were the days.
Pubs never had windows you could see in, and the entrance was always through 2 doors so even if someone was going in or out you could not see in.
Old men in 3 piece suits and flat caps. Proper smoky atmosphere, everyone would have a pipe or a ciggy on the go. valve jukeboxes with proper records on them, not 'the charts'.
We have lost so much.
I could not do bar work now, those stupid electronic tills, what a load of bollocks they are. Any decent barman just added up the cost of the round in his head and rang it in the till. Ten times faster. Now they stand there for ten minutes going '1 pint of Stella' - click ' one gin' - click - 'one tonic' -click... The world is run by morons for morons.
I know where you're coming from, and agree to an extent, but in terms of the pubs you describe in bold, I wouldn't go near them with a barge pole, and never did when they existed. Totally not my kind of place. Never been in a pub in my life with sawdust on the floor. What was it for, sick?
It might be different if I was a 'track-suited scumbag' (lol, you know what I mean), single and smoked!;)
I totally agree with your last paragraph, though!!
Marco.
I know where you're coming from, and agree to an extent, but in terms of the pubs you describe in bold, I wouldn't go near them with a barge pole, and never did when they existed. Totally not my kind of place. Never been in a pub in my life with sawdust on the floor. What was it for, sick?
It might be different if I was a 'track-suited scumbag' (lol, you know what I mean), single and smoked!;)
I totally agree with your last paragraph, though!!
Marco.
They were my favourite sort of pubs. Used to have one either end of my street, neither of them had changed at all since WW2. Not even been decorated. Now one is a bail hostel and the other is someone's house.
Fair enough, I get that, but they're not places you would take a women into (unless she was burlier than you and had a bushier beard:eyebrows:), and when I was single, I was a sharp-dressed trendy bastard, on the pull for a nice wee girly, so I would've been, erm, 'elsewhere'....;)
Also, as a non-smoker I couldn't think of a worse environment I could put myself inside for hours!:eek:
However, you like what you like, and what suits your needs. These days, for me that's a nice (clean) country pub that serves the finest real ales and great food!:cool:
Marco.
Except for the staff you would rarely see a women under sixty in those pubs, and they would never be accompanied. Some there would be no women at all.
If I was taking a bird out we'd go to a restaurant or maybe the pictures, or both. I wouldn't take her in one of those pubs in a million years.
Except for the staff you would rarely see a women under sixty in those pubs, and they would never be accompanied.
Or 'she' (rumour has it some of them had remnants of female genes, swimming amongst the overwhelming levels of testosterone) would be the local 'bike', and crawling with all sorts!:D :spew:
Marco.
You'd go to the biker's pub - ho ho - for that.
I'm talking about proper old men's pubs. You'd get younger lads like me in but the old boys were in charge, it was their pub and you respected that or you were out.
Pigmy Pony
25-07-2018, 18:24
Methinks Marco is suspiciously knowledgeable about these pubs he claims never to have gone in...Hmm.
They were almost exclusively men's pubs - the windows you couldn't see in through and the doors were there for one reason - so the men could hide from the missus :D
When I was a teenager we had four such pubs within 100 yds of our house, and about ten more if you could stagger another 100 yds.
One evening when I was about sixteen my younger brother offered to get me and my mate a pint at the Alice, which was a far distant 40 yards from our front door. When we got there 30 seconds later, he said, "Just wait out here, I'll bring 'em out".
A couple of minutes later he came out with three glasses of er, might have been Toby Light, each of the glasses only about half full, and handed them out. Closely followed by some old geezer who knocked my brother onto his arse and took the beers back.
These days he's a bit like Marco, likes fine dining, going to the theatre and has the vicar round for afternoon tea sometimes - but I know better. :)
Lol - the contents of my dungeon are between Miss Whiplash [Tabatha] and me :whippin: Btw, you never did return the keys for those handcuffs...
In terms of pubs, my tastes are rather different now from what they were when I was younger. These days, I'd take a (clean) old-man's pub every day over a 'trendy bar', as the beer will usually be much better and defo cheaper!
Back then, however, I wouldn't have been seen dead in an old-man's pub, as it was distinctly uncool, and back then such things mattered;)
No-one's told me yet what the sawdust was for, sick? I honestly don't know!
Marco.
Spilt beer mostly. But it would take care of any sick, or more likely blood too.
I meant to comment on this:
They were almost exclusively men's pubs - the windows you couldn't see in through and the doors were there for one reason - so the men could hide from the missus :D
Ha - that's such a uniquely British thing! I could never imagine my dad wanting to do that, or me. And if Del ever caught me calling her 'the missus' or ' the wife', my balls would be served to me as canapés!!:eek:
Marco.
Spilt beer mostly. But it would take care of any sick, or more likely blood too.
Ah I see.. Mucky pups, lol!
Marco.
walpurgis
25-07-2018, 18:52
Lol - the contents of my dungeon are between Miss Whiplash [Tabatha] and me :whippin:
Marco.
Ah. You have a dungeon Marco. I wonder if it's similar to my oubliette? I have a few 'things' hanging on the walls in chains. I don't recall any of them moving for a while though. Not sure 'the rack' agreed with them. :eek:
Pigmy Pony
25-07-2018, 18:55
Oh you missed so much Marco, not least of all the women! There was at least one fit bird in every pub we went in, or at least a picture of them, scantily clad, their bits hiding behind a couple of dozen bags of big D peanuts.
Usually though, while these older folk were enjoying a few drinks at their local, we were in their houses doing rude things with their babysitters. :D
Many years ago we had a barlady who, if you have her a note for payment, would generally give you more in change than the face value of the note. She was quite popular. Probably wouldn't find one like that now with all these fancy tills that do the arithmetic for you.
Oh you missed so much Marco, not least of all the women! There was at least one fit bird in every pub we went in, or at least a picture of them, scantily clad, their bits hiding behind a couple of dozen bags of big D peanuts.
Usually though, while these older folk were enjoying a few drinks at their local, we were in their houses doing rude things with their babysitters. :D
Lol... I did more ganja (or magic mushy)-fuelled parties in those days than pubs, where also lots of naughty things happened, especially when parents went on holiday and we had access to an 'empty':eyebrows:
I loved my teenage years!
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
26-07-2018, 19:27
'Shrooms' are one of the few things that passed me by in my yoof. It's on my bucket list, and I think about it every September, then next news it's November and I think 'Shit, I forgot again, maybe next year'.
So I settle for a tin of Heinz cream of mushroom soup. With some crusty bread tastes magic. :)
narabdela
26-07-2018, 19:33
So I settle for a tin of Heinz cream of mushroom soup. With some crusty bread tastes magic. :)
Nah, you need to try Baxter's Luxury Mushroom Potage!
Unless you get a cold, damp September, which is rare, then early October is your best time. Cricket pitches in the early mornings. Any sports field where they keep the cut very short really but cricket pitches are best. Illegal to even pick them now I think, it wasn't when I last did it in about '91.
Unless you get a cold, damp September, which is rare, then early October is your best time. Cricket pitches in the early mornings. Any sports field where they keep the cut very short really but cricket pitches are best. Illegal to even pick them now I think, it wasn't when I last did it in about '91.
I'd be happy with some Chitrall (or 'Paki Black' as we used to call it - but that's not PC these days).
We are way off topic here.
I worked in a few bars and clubs in my youth. Agree with what has been said especially don't let a pile of empties build up all over the bar. And have a rag, your own rag, bring it from home. Every good barman has a rag. Mop up all the little pools on the bar, wipe up spills and so on. You used to have bar towels for that but you don't see them no more, which is a shame.
Pigmy Pony
26-07-2018, 20:23
To keep it on topic, I will say that a good barman will always know the best places to pick mushrooms, and will use his finger to draw a map in the spilt beer on the bar before wiping it away with his own personal cloth - discretion is important.
He should also always know the number of a good escort agency.
Marco.
He should also always know the number of a good escort agency.
Marco.
I can just see that being really useful in 'The White Horse' at Madeley Heath. Where the highlight of the month was the domino championship. And that was serious stuff, it was solemn, man.
I used to start at seven and I wouldn't get a customer most nights until after nine o'clock. Never saw a female customer in the 3 months I was there, or a customer under 60 years of age. It was like tending bar in a Kubrick film.
I think the most important aspect about female barmaids when you're young is do you fancy her, do you reckon she likes you, and can you fuck her tonight?
Challenge.
From memory of my early twenties, I managed four such challenges. All interesting experiences. This is barmaids only, you understand. Far more variety out there than that.
A fifth one got cancelled when we got back to her place, and with the door to her lav open (I really do mean lavatory), she proceeded to stick a needle in her inner thigh in full view.
One was 17 years older than me, and when we woke up in the morning, her kids came in and tried to rip the sheets off the bed to see my wotsit. WTF? I was actually pretty disturbed by that, but then just put it down to curiousty. Another time with her her old man came in when we were on the job. Seriously concerned about a potential confrontation. I needn't have been concerned. Good looking mid-wife, actually. She phoned me up after a couple of weeks after first meet and told me I had gonorrhoea and NSU. I got checked out and she was right. On reflection I simply knew she hadn't given it to me.
Another suffered from dry pussy and required copious amounts of KY, to her own admission and supply of said substance. She had a big arse, but that isn't what she needed it for.
I could go on but you get the idea...
The worst thing about sleeping around I found is that you feel emotionally attached to women you know you don't really see a future with. It's just a young man's perogative, I guess.
The best thing is when years older you look back on it all with fondness and a gladness you did what you did.
Quality stuff. The worst I ever caught was head lice. Although that was quite bad.
Quality stuff. The worst I ever caught was head lice. Although that was quite bad.
a mate of mine got crabs.. :eek: not the edible ones either
a mate of mine got crabs.. :eek: not the edible ones either
Bear Grylls would probably eat them.
Bear Grylls would probably eat them.
he had great difficulty getting rid lol vicious things
walpurgis
26-07-2018, 21:29
The best thing is when years older you look back on it all with fondness and a gladness you did what you did.
I still do the things I did given the opportunity. Just less often.
I met a lot of nice females in pubs (and the occasional horror :))
I still do the things I did given the opportunity. Just less often.
I met a lot of nice females in pubs (and the occasional horror :))
no real interest in such now. still like to see a pretty thing but thats it. Better sticking to music these days.:D
Back when I was management, I did some reflecting on what makes a good employee. These are not bar staff related, but more relate to all employees.
Intelligence is important, but not the most important. Work ethic, humbleness, loyalty, honesty, sense of humor, and a positive attitude are the qualities that make a good employee.
The test of a good bar keep? Ask them to make a martini, it’s so hard to get a decent martini these days! If they can do that, and make any odd drink you can name, is important. I do hate to go to a bar and order a drink, and they complain why can’t I want something simple, or they make it completely wrong, and call the manager if you complain, or spend 30 minutes trying to figure out how to make it. Or they stiffen your drink up, thinking they’re doing you a favor, but the drink is awful tasting. Stick to the recipe. Besides the personality traits, being knowledgeable about the craft is most important.
Russell
Minstrel SE
27-07-2018, 05:17
Thanks everyone. Ive been a bit busy with it all
I will see how it goes. the training to fit in is a very sketchy at the moment so Im worried. Its not a bar that even does Martinis so its a more limited selection of spirits beers and bottles. I have other duties so its a bit worrying and all over the place at the moment
Im not so sure now. I have a friendly people pleasing attitude but probably lack the cheeky banter that some customers will look for. Im ok but have more of a perfectionist and shyer nature than would be best for the job. Obviously there are still a wide range of people in a hotel bar and I dont have the stories to draw them in.
The deep truth is that Im more a backroom person but come out of myself with stricter working parameters.
Its a small bar so I will be centre stage and all eyes will be on me as people unwind plus I have to keep checking on other duties so Im fast going off the idea.
Ive been watching people getting tanked on Tequila shots and wonder If I can handle the customer service side of how alcohol affects things.
What can seem like a simpler job isnt really. A good barman oozes confidence and Im feeling quite anxious about it
I will give it a go but cant see it lasting long. Theres a lot of hotel staff politics going on and its not an enviroment Im used to on the serving side of things.
So with no real experience Im going to look a bit awkward. I think the guy training me sees me as a bit of a threat to job positions so its all looking a bit Hmmmmm at the moment. Im going to get thrown in the deep end and there are clearly people who wouldnt mind if I failed.
I have the big test on Sunday and havent even been given a bar log in yet so it aint looking good :) :(
I have noted all your comments though. Cheers :)
Unfortunately, Martin, that doesn't sound too promising.... However, I do hope that it turns out to be something you're happy doing, as if not, it's not really worth the grief, if it's just to earn some extra 'pocket money'.
Marco.
In keeping with other comments here, if it all goes belly up you could always pull the barmaid and make a quick exit. Good luck
Pigmy Pony
27-07-2018, 17:32
Don't be so hard on yourself Martin, the 'banter' will come with experience, and better to start off a little reserved than overly familiar with people - not everyone likes that from someone they barely know.
The fact that you're worrying about this shows you care, and that goes a long way in my book. I wish you well.
You'll be fine. It's quite a fun job once you get the hang of it and that doesn't take much.
Pigmy Pony
27-07-2018, 17:43
I agree. 6 months from now you may be back here telling us how you're glad you stuck it out, and how you've met loads of interesting people, who were not always dog rough.
I agree with all of the above, and hope Martin's new job is a great success. However, even as an eternal optimist, this bit worries me:
I think the guy training me sees me as a bit of a threat to job positions so its all looking a bit Hmmmmm at the moment. Im going to get thrown in the deep end and there are clearly people who wouldnt mind if I failed.
Unfortunately, regardless of anything else, and even if you turn out to be 'barman of the year', that bit remains out with of your control. If what you say is true, then if you are to stay in the job and derive satisfaction from it, you're somehow going to have to get the people you've mentioned on your side.
Marco.
Minstrel SE
31-07-2018, 06:05
Well yes I'm on it and have done my first shift on my own. Thanks for all your comments.
I do have a gift for customer service and Im being quite chatty. The customers wont get amazing tales to start with but they will get a friendly and appoachable service. Its just a case of asking people want they want as ice and mixers before rushing in to complete the drink...never assume anything.
Im not going to like everybody that walks in there but most people are just fine.
They have really thrown me in the deep end with training but I'm learning all my spirits, beers and liqueurs.
Dissaronno anyone? :) Loads of videos about the Queens favourite drink of Dubonnet and Gin so Im learning fast.
Most people will be having a pint of Pravha or a wine...there will be awkward customers in the future but as you say the job isn't worth too much hassle so no real worries.
All the best
Martin
Pigmy Pony
31-07-2018, 06:17
You certainly sound more positive about it than last week, it sounds like you've picked up a lot in a few short days. Just think how you'll be in a month's time? Probably like Sam from 'Cheers'. Or Coach.
That's if you haven't given your fellow staff the 'Kirby Kiss' before then! :)
Glad you seem to be settling in, Martin, and enjoying it!:)
Dissaronno anyone? Loads of videos about the Queens favourite drink of Dubonnet and Gin so Im learning fast.
Ah yes, Amaretto Disaronno. It's an Italian apéritif, or digestif, usually drunk straight as the latter, or with ice as the former. I have some here and often enjoy it. I've also tried Dubonnet and Gin.
Another similar cocktail I often enjoy is a Negroni, which is one part gin, one part red vermouth (Martini), and one part Campari, garnished with orange peel and served with ice - gorgeous!
Also, make sure you know how to do an Aperol Spritz, which is the 'in' drink at the moment, especially in this hot weather: http://www.goodhousekeeping.co.uk/food/food-news/aperol-spritz-recipe
Hope you continue to enjoy your new job:cool:
Marco.
Haselsh1
31-07-2018, 10:50
I really admire bar staff that are aware. The ones who know who is next in line and don't just serve their friends or the ones who have just shoved their way to the front.
Glad you seem to be settling in, Martin, and enjoying it!:)
Ah yes, Amaretto Disaronno. It's an Italian apéritif, or digestif, usually drunk straight as the latter, or with ice as the former. I have some here and often enjoy it. I've also tried Dubonnet and Gin.
Another similar cocktail I often enjoy is a Negroni, which is one part gin, one part red vermouth (Martini), and one part Campari, garnished with orange peel and served with ice - gorgeous!
Also, make sure you know how to do an Aperol Spritz, which is the 'in' drink at the moment, especially in this hot weather: http://www.goodhousekeeping.co.uk/food/food-news/aperol-spritz-recipe
Hope you continue to enjoy your new job:cool:
Marco.
Amaretto with lemonade tastes strangely like cherries!
Russ
Minstrel SE
03-08-2018, 07:36
Yes the key seems to be asking how they like the drink as some people want it in very specific way...one ice cube, touch of water etc...you can over ice or mix many types of drink...I would say its harder than a pub bar in that way as hotel customers may have higher expectations as they settle in to the place.
If you see the videos ice can lock in the aroma and flavour therfore affecting things positively or negatively
Its amazing how many people ask for recommendations on the whisky...mostly which is cheapest :) If they dont know the difference between a single malt and a well known blend then its a bit strange really. I would rather they had a preference in mind because Im no expert.
Probably best on the cheapest which is F Grouse etc...the single malt bar starts getting scaringly pricey :)........but I am very helpful
I think there is a lot of hype with drinks. I like an occasional brandy and I dont think most people could tell the difference between vs, vsop, xo or xxo but the price tag rockets.
Im doing bigger orders and have to till them in as I go. Merrily drunk people chop change and spin on a dime. They also get a bit beligerent when the shot pourer sticks or something telling me to "push it push it" like I dont know that
Another key point is its clear when not to get involved with the general conversation and just serve. A group were talking about the female Doctor Who which can be a charged subject...best not to get involved. They let me know when they want to talk to me and I just stand there like a wet lettuce sometimes :D
Best wishes to everyone on the forum
Martin
Another key point is its clear when not to get involved with the general conversation and just serve. A group were talking about the female Doctor Who which can be a charged subject...best not to get involved :)
More contentious than Brexit!
Glad it is all working out for you.
A group were talking about the female Doctor Who which can be a charged subject...best not to get involved.
Tell them that's what happens when you try to 'regenerate' more than your alloted 12 times, and speculate that the next Doctor will be 'gender fluid'.
There are 32 genders now so presumably the next 31 doctors will have to cover the gamut of them to avoid any accusations of prejudice or sexism.
If I was the writer I'd get round the problem by having the next doctor regenerate as a large tomato plant. Will Smith to provide the vocal performance.
Why are there no black or Asian Doctors? No doubt Brexit has scared them all away. :scratch:
Yes the key seems to be asking how they like the drink as some people want it in very specific way...one ice cube, touch of water etc...you can over ice or mix many types of drink...I would say its harder than a pub bar in that way as hotel customers may have higher expectations as they settle in to the place.
If you see the videos ice can lock in the aroma and flavour therfore affecting things positively or negatively
Its amazing how many people ask for recommendations on the whisky...mostly which is cheapest :) If they dont know the difference between a single malt and a well known blend then its a bit strange really. I would rather they had a preference in mind because Im no expert.
Probably best on the cheapest which is F Grouse etc...the single malt bar starts getting scaringly pricey :)........but I am very helpful
I think there is a lot of hype with drinks. I like an occasional brandy and I dont think most people could tell the difference between vs, vsop, xo or xxo but the price tag rockets.
Im doing bigger orders and have to till them in as I go. Merrily drunk people chop change and spin on a dime. They also get a bit beligerent when the shot pourer sticks or something telling me to "push it push it" like I dont know that
Another key point is its clear when not to get involved with the general conversation and just serve. A group were talking about the female Doctor Who which can be a charged subject...best not to get involved. They let me know when they want to talk to me and I just stand there like a wet lettuce sometimes :D
Best wishes to everyone on the forum
Martin
malt is a big subject and if you dont tipple malts then its a more difficult subject. grains are a bit easier .. wont offend anyone who wants a cheapie with grouse, but not straight unless hes an old codger in flatcap:eyebrows:. the irish always give you a small glass of water with it, which i think a nice touch.
walpurgis
03-08-2018, 15:21
Why are there no black or Asian Doctors?
My GP is Asian if that helps? :lol:
WESTLOWER
03-08-2018, 15:35
My GP is Asian if that helps? :lol:
My doctor is African!
What does this have to do with anything?
Mines Dutch btw. With a very attractive daughter.
What's a 'doctor'?:scratch:
;)
Marco.
What does this have to do with anything?
Mines Dutch btw. With a very attractive daughter.
I was talking about Time Lords, not general practioners; hence spelling "Doctor" with a capital D. Jeez - you lot can be so literal at times!
Pigmy Pony
03-08-2018, 20:10
What does this have to do with anything?
Mines Dutch btw. With a very attractive daughter.
Today's useless fact; the Dutch are the world's tallest race.
Today's useless fact; the Dutch are the world's tallest race.
Really - I would have thought it would be the Somalii? Is it in the Guinness Book of Records?
Pigmy Pony
03-08-2018, 20:27
I was told this by some Dutch guy while on a night out, but to be honest most of what he was saying went right over my head :D boom! boom!
walpurgis
03-08-2018, 20:27
I was talking about Time Lords
I know. :)
Today's useless fact; the Dutch are the world's tallest race.
Dutch men revealed as world's tallest. When it comes to height, Dutch men and Latvian women tower over all other nationalities, a study reveals. The average Dutchman is now 183cm (6ft) tall, while the average Latvian woman reaches 170cm (5ft 7in).26 Jul 2016
Today's useless fact; the Dutch are the world's tallest race.
And also eat more button mushrooms than anyone else.
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
03-08-2018, 20:37
Another useless fact: Willys look like button mushrooms in cold weather.
walpurgis
03-08-2018, 20:37
I'm glad I'm not tall. I've known a few really tall blokes (6'4" or more), most had back and leg joint trouble, several died young, two from spine cancer. And they tend to have trouble finding cars they're comfortable in.
walpurgis
03-08-2018, 20:38
Another useless fact: Willys look like button mushrooms in cold weather.
They make Jeeps don't they? :D
http://i66.tinypic.com/rmp7yr.jpg
Another useless fact: Willys look like button mushrooms in cold weather.
They are also 93.5% likely to marry a Latvian shot putter.
Marco.
I'm glad I'm not tall. I've known a few really tall blokes (6'4" or more), most had back and leg joint trouble, several died young, two from spine cancer. And they tend to have trouble finding cars they're comfortable in.
Lol - 6ft2 is just nice. Tall, but not stupidly so. There's nothing worse than suffering from 'small-man syndrome':D Although you make up for it with the girth of your middle leg:eyebrows:
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
03-08-2018, 20:57
Yes, having short legs definitely make the middle one seem longer - I look like a broken tripod :)
Being tall used to be handy for teenage boys - the newsagents top shelf was more accessible. Not such an advantage these days, what with the internet.
Pigmy Pony
03-08-2018, 21:01
They make Jeeps don't they? :D
http://i66.tinypic.com/rmp7yr.jpg
Imagine pulling birds with that Willy - bet it vibrates like buggery
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