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montesquieu
08-07-2018, 16:15
https://i.imgur.com/BJAYR2y.jpg

Something interesting has come up and I need to raise cash … so it's with much reluctance that I'm offering this true classic of a cartridge.

The original 'Ikeda 9' series of cartridges, prior to 2011 when Isamu Ikeda (founder of Fidelity Research) retired, were each hand made personally by the master, and were built around a cantilever-less stylus assembly - the stylus fixes to a small bridge which attaches directly to the cartridge coils. Essentially this is the Decca principle, only in moving coil, done by one of the leading Japanese audio masters.

Post 2011 Ikeda cartridges, after Ikeda sold the business, reverted to a more standard cantilever arrangement - so no more of these classics are being made.

This cartridge was bought from Uesugi Ken (soundget.net) in Japan a few months back, for $1350 + postage, plus VAT and brokerage when it arrived in the UK - just over £1250 all up. It’s played maybe 50 sides since I got it so is in essentially the same wonderful condition it was in when I bought it http://soundgate.net/product/MTM..highend - there is a scratch on the headshell but the cartridge itself is in top order.

It’s quite a different presentation to my Miyajima Madake and Takumi, which are quite warm, perhaps sightly old fashioned, not without detail but definitely on the laid back side. The Ikeda is a more modern, detailed sound - it has a vividness and presence like nothing I’ve heard, yet at the same time it manages to avoid the flatness that you can get with Deccas - it’s wonderfully 3D. It’s also the most dynamic cartridge I’ve ever heard - Deccas included.

In the end though, my listening (heavily classically biased) does seem to favour the more laid back Miyajimas, and the arrival of a Takumi as my No.2 stereo cartridge has meant that its not getting used, except when visitors come to ooh and aah over. It really is very special.

I did start a thread about it when it arrived so some additional info here: http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?57035-Just-arrived-Ikeda-9C-III Also some broader discussion on Ikeda 9 cartridges over on the Lenco forum: https://www.lencoheaven.net/forum/index.php?topic=5905.0

I suspect that the Decca fans around here would love this cartridge. Of course I’m down as a long-time Decca skeptic so perhaps the outcome of this experiment was not entirely unexpected.

Output is modestly healthy 0.18mV, 3 ohms coil impedance so a step-up or head amp suitable for an Ortofon SPU will work happily with it. Compliance is 6 x 10–6, which is low, so it would be at its best in a higher mass arm and the over 30g total weight of the cartridge plus headshell assembly requires an arm capable of balancing out a similar mass to an SPU.

I’m offering it for £975 collected or +£10 for RMSD in the UK which is very cheap for one of these, headshells alone generally go for around £250. Package comprises outer box, inner box, headshell, headshell wires, cartridge, stylus brush and stylus guard.

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topoxforddoc
08-07-2018, 17:34
Hi Tim,

Is the cartridge integral or is the headshell detachable?

Thanks

Charlie

montesquieu
08-07-2018, 17:36
Hi Tim,

Is the cartridge integral or is the headshell detachable?

Thanks

Charlie

Hi Charlie

The cartridge is detachable on the 9C. It doesn't need to be used in the dedicated headshell - though with matching paint it does look smart!

Natara
09-07-2018, 05:06
Made by the same man as my lovely new Fidelity Research Tonearm I believe. A lovely thing that I would love to hear on the end of my FR12 a little out of my league though :(

dwhistance
09-07-2018, 08:08
Hi Tom,

I'm sorely tempted by this cartridge and I suspect it would be a good partner to the FR64fx and MC702 I already have. Need to think about it though as I'm overspent on Hi-Fi for this month and a stereo cartridge isn't really on my shopping list at the moment. Still ...

David Whistance

montesquieu
09-07-2018, 10:13
Hi Tom,

I'm sorely tempted by this cartridge and I suspect it would be a good partner to the FR64fx and MC702 I already have. Need to think about it though as I'm overspent on Hi-Fi for this month and a stereo cartridge isn't really on my shopping list at the moment. Still ...

David Whistance

Should be a good sonic match, David ... the combined cartridge-headshell assembly is heavier than MC702 but the effective mass of the FR64fx is broadly similar to the later Ikeda arms this would have been designed for - these are lighter than the earlier FR64S and have more in common with the later 64fx.

WESTLOWER
09-07-2018, 13:09
I have personally had the privilege of hearing this cartridge on duty at Tom's.
It's a remarkably special cartridge. Someone is in for a real treat.
Poor timing for me ATM with money, I certainly would not have thought twice.
GLWTS

mikeyb
09-07-2018, 13:55
Typical, just bought a Kontrapunkt B lol.

How would the Ikeda do for Rock and Electronic?

I'm thinking it might be rather good going by the comments above.

montesquieu
09-07-2018, 14:11
Typical, just bought a Kontrapunkt B lol.

How would the Ikeda do for Rock and Electronic?

I'm thinking it might be rather good going by the comments above.

It's very good with jazz .. can't say I tried it with rock or electronic (I'd have to dig hard here to find any ...).

Barry
09-07-2018, 16:16
PM sent

montesquieu
09-07-2018, 18:44
Now sold to to Barry :)

anubisgrau
09-07-2018, 18:44
Wow!

dwhistance
09-07-2018, 18:57
Shame as I had decided to go for it, sadly work got in the way as is often the case. I'm sure Barry will enjoy it, if not then please PM me!

David Whistance