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take5
01-07-2018, 13:49
bought this about 4 years ago, with great plans for it, but that is now not going to happen, so time to sell.


Ive had quite a bit of interest in it, in a different sale thread, with many wanting to see pictures.
Most of that is probably just wanting to see pics of something rare!!!!
Buts that’s ok. A lucky buyer may also be out there too.

So, I thought it merited a sale thread to itself.

It came with a Garrard 301, which I sold to a member here, Mickricky, about 18 months ago.
Many of you will have seen the condition of his 301 at The Wigwam show earlier this year. This 3012 is in that condition.

The pair of them spent their whole time in a wooden cabinet, with a lid. I bought it from the family of the original owner.

So, it’s the series 1 version, dating from the 1950’s

Whilst researching this, I came across an old thread which has some great info.
See the 3rd post, from AUDIO GRAIL. Very informative, and contains pictures as well as all you need to know. Well worth a look.

https://hifiwigwam.com/forum/topic/76736-buying-sme-3012-series-i-what-to-look-for/

He lists all the things an original of these should have. Mine ticks all the boxes.


You will see these for sale with wrong parts, usually from a series 2.
Commonly, the thicker bed plate, taller bed nuts, and the grey protective can. (This can was black in series 2......again, See Agrail post) are not present in what is being offered.

Mine is all original and looks in fantastic condition.

It is pretty much immaculate.

One very small blemish on the back edge of the base plate, behind the back right fixing point.
Barely noticeable but I’ve tried to capture it in a picture, but haven’t really managed to capture it.
And that’s it.

The arm lift/lowering device works perfectly.

The original versions didn’t have the bias device, like the series 2 , for example.
Then later, an after market device was introduced.
I eventually got one on Ebay, including the instruction sheet.
Ive included a picture


When the arm and turntable were removed from the cabinet, the family of the owner, just snipped the wires!!!!! So there is no arm cable.
Luckily the connection end of this cable was in the tonearm and was there when I got it. It is the “correct” slider type connection. Ive taken two pictures to show it in position and separate

I am selling as is, but if a buyer wanted it re terminated, I can take it over to Mike Powel in Bolton, who will do it for me.

My price is £2000. For that I will include a standard SME head-shell.

See my picture of headshells. You will see that I also have two of the rare heavier version, as well as one of the large SPU.
I will sell any of these latter 3, but will want a more in payment .

My price reflects that fact that it is untested. Given the way it was looked after and how it looks and feels, I’m pretty confident it will work.

Anyway , my price is low in terms of what these normally go for.

Here is a recent one from eBay
It sold on buy it now for £2200.
It has the “wrong” protective can and the “wrong “ sized bed nuts, as well as a damaged headshell.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SME-3012...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Happy to send other pictures to anyone interested.

take5
01-07-2018, 13:49
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take5
01-07-2018, 13:52
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take5
01-07-2018, 13:54
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take5
01-07-2018, 13:57
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take5
01-07-2018, 13:59
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take5
01-07-2018, 14:01
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take5
01-07-2018, 14:03
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take5
01-07-2018, 14:05
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take5
02-07-2018, 05:28
Sale agreed...subject to completion etc.

The deal included the SPU type headshell ( back left in picture above ), so that is gone too.

Thanks

take5
02-07-2018, 07:51
Now that this sale is done, I will post an extra......

Ive been asked by friends and others, what I’m doing with all the money I’m raising from my hi fi sales.

Well, it’s already spent. I’m trying to replenish the considerable hole in my finances!

I recently bought the sax of my dreams. Ive been looking for one like this for 20 years.

It’s the holy grail. The ultimate. The one everyone wants.

And it’s mine.

A Selmer Mark 6 from 1956, original finish.

Some lacquer wear, but physically and mechanically fantastic.

I’m ecstatic to own such a sax.

Here is a pic. It may not look much, but sax players would salivate and dribble on seeing this picture.

http://i68.tinypic.com/qqo8eo.jpg

WESTLOWER
02-07-2018, 08:23
Now that this sale is done, I will post an extra......

Ive been asked by friends and others, what I’m doing with all the money I’m raising from my hi fi sales.

Well, it’s already spent. I’m trying to replenish the considerable hole in my finances!

I recently bought the sax of my dreams. Ive been looking for one like this for 20 years.

It’s the holy grail. The ultimate. The one everyone wants.

And it’s mine.

A Selmer Mark 6 from 1956, original finish.

Some lacquer wear, but physically and mechanically fantastic.

I’m ecstatic to own such a sax.

Here is a pic. It may not look much, but sax players would salivate and dribble on seeing this picture.

http://i68.tinypic.com/qqo8eo.jpg

Lovely Horn Brian. I 'Get it'!
I hope you have a mouth piece to do it justice!
Well done!

WESTLOWER
02-07-2018, 08:27
A Selmer Mark 6 from 1956, original finish.

Some lacquer wear, but physically and mechanically fantastic.

I’m ecstatic to own such a sax.

Here is a pic. It may not look much, but sax players would salivate and dribble on seeing this picture.


has it the optional F♯ key ?

take5
02-07-2018, 08:38
has it the optional F♯ key ?

Get you... with your geeky stuff !!!! Lol...

Do you play?

No, this one doesn’t. as you say it was optional then. The majority from the 50s don’t have.

There is feeling that without f sharp saxes play better. I agree.

Sadly, later all saxes, all brands, have f sharp.

take5
02-07-2018, 08:43
Lovely Horn Brian. I 'Get it'!
I hope you have a mouth piece to do it justice!
Well done!

Do I have a mouthpiece..

I have a bag load of them.

In fact I’ve had to put them in my mums attic in Scotland, out of the way. I was spending way too much time faffing about with mouthpieces. Sad isn’t it.

Andy831
02-07-2018, 09:25
Brian out of interest and as a none music reading non-player, is that f sharp thing the Honk sound you occasionally get from the sax?

WESTLOWER
02-07-2018, 09:33
Get you... with your geeky stuff !!!! Lol...

Do you play?

No, this one doesn’t. as you say it was optional then. The majority from the 50s don’t have.

There is feeling that without f sharp saxes play better. I agree.

Sadly, later all saxes, all brands, have f sharp.

No I don't play a horn, but do have a set of vibes, which I play pretty badly to Jamey Aebersold, rhythm play along lps!

The Selmer MK6 a legendary horn.
Giants, Sonny Rollins, Hank Mobley, Coltrane and Tubby Hayes all played the very same model, of various years.
You are in great company!
Tarnishing is part of the charm. :thumbsup:

take5
02-07-2018, 09:44
is that f sharp thing the Honk sound you occasionally get from the sax?




Andy, I’m afraid I don’t recognise what you mean !!!!

honk sound from a sax????????

I hear nothing but beautiful, life enhancing, touch the soul, hairs on the back of the neck stuff coming out of any sax.

Perhaps you are thinking of a trumpet, trombone, overdriven fender strat, etc etc

Ok, joking aside, and without getting too technical.

The normal range of the sax goes up to high F. Ie that’s with conventional fingerings that you will see in tutor books.
In about the 1950s, as players started to want to go higher than that, manufacturers responded and added an f sharp key.

I feel it isn’t needed and play f sharp easily and comfortably with so called “ false fingerings”. Nothing special, everyone does it now. So, there are folks who play an octave higher or more than the so called top note of F

These notes tend to be thinner in sound, so the honking you are talking about is probably not that.
The honking tends to come from the very low notes of the sax. A blast like a fog horn, possibly
You will hear this especially in the old rock and roll sax style.

Hope that helps.

take5
02-07-2018, 10:23
The Selmer MK6 a legendary horn
You are in great company!
Tarnishing is part of the charm. :thumbsup:

Ive played various other mark sixes for 20years. In fact my most recent one was very close in age to Coltranes sax. But it was from the 60s. Great sax....but.......

The ones from just a few years from the mid to late 50s are nowadays thought of as the Holy Grail.
Very hard to come by, I’m feeling very luck to have one now.
It is fantastic.

The tarnishing thing is a big deal in the sax world. the lacquer does fall of over time. Lots of folks in the past had them re finished. They look shiny and new.
Bad news.
These are now worth a lot tless than an equivilant age original one!!!!

I don’t care a jot about the look or state of the lacquer, as long as it is original, and the sax plays properly.
In fact it kind of helps give me the vibe I want.

moodybuilder
02-07-2018, 18:22
A beautiful looking sax, I bet it could tell some story's