Yamaha NS1000M’s Photoshoot

[andyrlb]

All cleaned and polished and looking pretty good.
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[Ian7633]

They look to be in excellent condition Andrew. I've never heard a pair but Jamie preferred his to the Signifers I've now got and I love the sounds they make so no doubt the Yams are top performers. By the way, did you need a fork lift to get them on the table lol?

[andyrlb]

They look to be in excellent condition Andrew. I've never heard a pair but Jamie preferred his to the Signifers I've now got and I love the sounds they make so no doubt the Yams are top performers. By the way, did you need a fork lift to get them on the table lol?

[emoji23]
I am still in recovery Ian ! When I were a lad and hod carrying I used to think nothing of throwing bags of 50kg’s bags of cement around , these feel like 75kg’s to me now .
They’re so damn cool looking though.


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[DSJR]

They look good and are well sought after, so should hold their value well. if you can get 'em sounding great as well - you're quids in guv'nor!

I remember the cloth grilles on mine were absolute sonic pants, but they do keep prying fingers away. Apparently in the mid 70's and according to Angus McKenzie, UK made speakers were more difficult to sell in Japan because with the grilles off (their preferred method of use regardless), UK speakers often looked awful (my BC2's look like some piece of scrap under the grilles even if they no longer sound it). I mean, Harbeth make a huge show of leaving the grilles on (and they measure slightly better too with them in place), yet all the far eastern customers, often with not-recommended valve amps and vinyl sources to the man, all prise the grilles off to show off the nice veneers on the front - they can't be excited about shiny anonymous plastic cones surely? ;)

[andyrlb]

Good point and I agree about the not so pretty British speakers, my radfords look bloody awful with the grills off ( my opinion) though they do sound better than the Yamaha’s to me .



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[struth]

first time ive seen the grilles on i think.

[Barry]

British speakers of the '60s and '70s were usually designed to take into account the presence of the grill. I'm not sure if this applies to BBC designs.

[DSJR]

In my experiences of the times in the store, BBC derived speakers from Spendor and Rogers were most often used with grilles on and later BC1's had those pesky plastic pegs which were a royal pain if the grilles needed to come off. Later BC1's had nicely matt-black fronts (mine aren't!) and I think the first Harbeths with foam fronts had a veneered front baffle, albeit in the beech colour of the rear baffles as per Spendor and others I seem to remember (maybe the very first were black, I can't remember now).

BC1's were measured at the factory sans grilles and Martin Colloms really had a go about the cloth used then, mainly where the little SA1 was concerned. The SP1 and subsequent models either had foam (SA2?) or the ubiquitous black cloth commonplace now.

Harbeth currently have a view that the grille in place has two advantages. The first (measurement proof online) is that the tweeter response is smoothed beneficially (the cloth basically touches the protective mesh of the the tweeter), the 'frameless frame' idea they developed makes no difference to lateral dispersion as many/most grilles do and lastly, the claim was made recently by the designer that the cloth acts subtly as a port damper, so the bass-port is beneficially loaded too. No idea as all the people on Facebook and so on that own the bloody things all take the grilles off regardless and if told in my over-direct fashion what the designer says, retort it's their speakers and freedom of choice, so there! :)

[andyrlb]

In my experiences of the times in the store, BBC derived speakers from Spendor and Rogers were most often used with grilles on and later BC1's had those pesky plastic pegs which were a royal pain if the grilles needed to come off. Later BC1's had nicely matt-black fronts (mine aren't!) and I think the first Harbeths with foam fronts had a veneered front baffle, albeit in the beech colour of the rear baffles as per Spendor and others I seem to remember (maybe the very first were black, I can't remember now).

BC1's were measured at the factory sans grilles and Martin Colloms really had a go about the cloth used then, mainly where the little SA1 was concerned. The SP1 and subsequent models either had foam (SA2?) or the ubiquitous black cloth commonplace now.

Harbeth currently have a view that the grille in place has two advantages. The first (measurement proof online) is that the tweeter response is smoothed beneficially (the cloth basically touches the protective mesh of the the tweeter), the 'frameless frame' idea they developed makes no difference to lateral dispersion as many/most grilles do and lastly, the claim was made recently by the designer that the cloth acts subtly as a port damper, so the bass-port is beneficially loaded too. No idea as all the people on Facebook and so on that own the bloody things all take the grilles off regardless and if told in my over-direct fashion what the designer says, retort it's their speakers and freedom of choice, so there! :)

The fabric on the Yamaha grills is like wool , though the grills are really well made with wood and metal frames and even metal pegs.


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[oldius]

I prefer my NS1000M with the grilles on.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1723/42644377282_b6a023f8fb_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/27YkzEb)20180604_195942 (https://flic.kr/p/27YkzEb) by Geoff Old (https://www.flickr.com/photos/161646613@N02/), on Flickr

[Macca]

Good to see the cat is occupying the expensive chair. No kipping down on some Ikea tat for Mister Kitty.

[hornucopia]

The NS tweeters cones are reputedly lighter than a butterflie's wings-Beryllium of course.

[oldius]

Good to see the cat is occupying the expensive chair. No kipping down on some Ikea tat for Mister Kitty.Cheap copy that one. My money's on the music!

[Macca]

Cheap copy that one. My money's on the music!

Even the cheap copies aren't cheap!

[oldius]

Even the cheap copies aren't cheap!True

[andyrlb]

I like that colour on them , I was going to go with an orange colour, someone had some nice looking jbl’s with orange grills.

[oldius]

I like that colour on them , I was going to go with an orange colour, someone had some nice looking jbl’s with orange grills.That was me too!

[andyrlb]

Now they looked stunning, [emoji1303] I may copy that design if you’ve no objections


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[oldius]

Now they looked stunning, [emoji1303] I may copy that design if you’ve no objections


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI'd be flattered.

[andyrlb]

I'd be flattered.

[emoji1303]
Where did you get the fabric Geoff?


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[oldius]

For the yams, on ebay. A supplier on Accrington I think and then i did the recovering. I had an American supplier from eBay make new grilles and cover the JBL'S. Wasn't dear though and he did a great job

Grille cloth -

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UK-PREMIUM-SPEAKER-FABRIC-CLOTH-GRILLS-CABINET-VARIOUS-COLOURS-AND-SIZES/272298136237?hash=item3f663bd2ad:m:mdXnFZPXjoFXfmB zhwdR8Gw


JBL Grilles example. Mine were a different model but an excellent company to deal with:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Two-New-JBL-L-100-Burnt-Orange-Grille-Grille-Inserts-Huntley-Audio-Reproduction-/163052277573

[FrostEOne]

I have 2 sets of NS1000M, older set 15,xxx serial don't have provisions for grills, newer set 33,xxx serial do. I've only had the newer set for a couple months. So far I prefer the grills on, always subject to change though.
http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o530/FrostEOne/DSC00504_zpscsrmbphp.jpg (http://s1146.photobucket.com/user/FrostEOne/media/DSC00504_zpscsrmbphp.jpg.html)

[andyrlb]

I have 2 sets of NS1000M, older set 15,xxx serial don't have provisions for grills, newer set 33,xxx serial do. I've only had the newer set for a couple months. So far I prefer the grills on, always subject to change though.
http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o530/FrostEOne/DSC00504_zpscsrmbphp.jpg (http://s1146.photobucket.com/user/FrostEOne/media/DSC00504_zpscsrmbphp.jpg.html)

Hi Mark , I get it now with the imaging [emoji1303]
I have no idea why I had them toed in so much 🤷🏼*♂️
Perhaps the medication needs looking into .
Cheers


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