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andyrlb
05-06-2018, 14:41
Lovely ole things don’t you think?
I’ve yet to work on the cabinets and one woofer has the coating coming away which shouldn’t be difficult ( if it warrants doing )
All drivers working as they should though hf from the crossover isn’t working so I’ll have to source replacements ( I’ll do them all of course).

I think the sheep must have been of the Glastonbury breed [emoji848]

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walpurgis
05-06-2018, 14:46
Not seen any of those for a long time.

It may say Radford on the mid, but it's a Goodmans unit. The bass driver looks like an alloy frame version of the Magnum K2 unit, cone looks similar.

The 'coating' on the woofer is a vinyl skin and is also an integral pert of the roll surround.

andyrlb
05-06-2018, 14:48
Not seen any of those for a long time.

It may say Radford on the mid, but it's a Goodmans unit. The bass driver looks like an alloy frame version of the Magnum K2 unit, cone looks similar.

Hi Geoff, yes looking on the net they are apparently all Goodmans drivers .
I’d like to date them too ( not go out for dinner and a snog [emoji16])


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andyrlb
05-06-2018, 14:49
Not seen any of those for a long time.

It may say Radford on the mid, but it's a Goodmans unit. The bass driver looks like an alloy frame version of the Magnum K2 unit, cone looks similar.

The 'coating' on the woofer is a vinyl skin and is also an integral pert of the roll surround.

Shall I bring it along ? [emoji6]
Btw what do you drink?


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walpurgis
05-06-2018, 14:50
Hi Geoff, yes looking on the net they are apparently all Goodmans drivers

Well the one marked Peerless is a Peerless! :) Although Radford did use Goodmans tweeters too.

They date from around 1970.

If the outer edge of the vinyl skin is coming away it may be possible to glue it back.

andyrlb
05-06-2018, 14:51
Well the one marked Peerless is a Peerless! :)

They date from around 1970.

If the outer edge of the vinyl skin is coming away it may be possible to glue it back.

Yes it’s definitely repairable


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struth
05-06-2018, 14:53
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/R8gAAOSwd0ha6FyC/s-l500.jpg

magnum

walpurgis
05-06-2018, 14:54
Actually looking at the photos again, it looks like the Peerless tweeters are replacements for the originals, which would likely have been DT3's.

andyrlb
05-06-2018, 14:56
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/R8gAAOSwd0ha6FyC/s-l500.jpg

magnum

You’ve lost me Grant ?


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andyrlb
05-06-2018, 14:57
Actually looking at the photos again, it looks like the Peerless tweeters are replacements for the originals, which would likely have been DT3's.

Is that a bad thing Geoff


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struth
05-06-2018, 14:58
You’ve lost me Grant ?


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thats the back of a magnum k2 driver. looks very similar

andyrlb
05-06-2018, 14:59
thats the back of a magnum k2 driver. looks very similar

Ah ok


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Edward
05-06-2018, 15:19
Looks good Andrew.

I had a similar Radford ages ago. Great sound but went a bit soft. Probably just needed a recap. What do the crossovers look like on yours?

andyrlb
05-06-2018, 15:22
Looks good Andrew.

I had a similar Radford ages ago. Great sound but went a bit soft. Probably just needed a recap. What do the crossovers look like on yours?

Hi Edward, I will photograph the crossovers shortly and post them ( I forgot to do it ) they looked very complex though ! Hold on .....


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andyrlb
05-06-2018, 15:31
Crossover photos , the green thing looks well gone https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180605/a3b88feb16f8bac28fa9ba71dc87be42.heichttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180605/93d78e9904360e19e33098e3f61a5137.heic

And the mid and tweeter from the other speaker ...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180605/b40e1e7e3146318cb9f53571b6e3c43d.heic


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andyrlb
05-06-2018, 15:46
Actually looking at the photos again, it looks like the Peerless tweeters are replacements for the originals, which would likely have been DT3's.

TD3/1 tweeters apparently Geoff https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180605/16ea252c4cc88132c2177df19c9fa254.png


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walpurgis
05-06-2018, 15:48
Crossover photos , the green thing looks well gone

It's a wirewound resistor. They often look a bit manky when they're old, bit I'll bet it measures and works just fine.

andyrlb
05-06-2018, 15:51
It's a wirewound resistor. They often look a bit manky when they're old, bit I'll bet it measures and works just fine.

See, I know f’all . I do have a capacitor tester now though ( all the gear & no idea )


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walpurgis
05-06-2018, 15:53
TD3/1 tweeters apparently Geoff

That's just Radford's part number. My money's on it being a Goodmans DT3.

One of these:

http://i63.tinypic.com/9pw2dy.jpg

andyrlb
05-06-2018, 15:53
See, I know f’all . I do have a capacitor tester now though ( all the gear & no idea )


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What components are causing the tweeter issue ?


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andyrlb
05-06-2018, 15:54
That's just Radford's part number. My money's on it being a Goodmans DT3.

One of these:

http://i63.tinypic.com/9pw2dy.jpg

Is that yours ?


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walpurgis
05-06-2018, 15:55
Is that yours ?

No, but I have owned loads of them. Not my favourite tweeter.

walpurgis
05-06-2018, 15:56
What components are causing the tweeter issue ?

What is the issue?

andyrlb
05-06-2018, 15:57
No, but I have owned loads of them. Not my favourite tweeter.

Shouldn’t I get a pair of dt3’s then if I’m to restore these ?
There are a pair of knackered Goodmans mezzo speakers for sale locally too , would they have dt3’s ?


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andyrlb
05-06-2018, 15:58
What is the issue?

The tweeter tests good but no sound from it


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walpurgis
05-06-2018, 15:59
There are a pair of knackered Goodmans mezzo speakers for sale locally too , would they have dt3’s ?

No. They'll have SEAS or Philips tweeters.

andyrlb
05-06-2018, 16:00
No. They'll have SEAS or Philips tweeters.

Damn you’re good !! I just read that too . Apparently SL models had the dt3’s


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walpurgis
05-06-2018, 16:01
The tweeter tests good but no sound from it

Dud cap or connection?

andyrlb
05-06-2018, 16:02
Dud cap or connection?

Ah ! I didn’t try connections


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walpurgis
05-06-2018, 16:04
Interesting that Radford claim output up to 25kHz when I know the DT3 rolls off well below that.

walpurgis
05-06-2018, 16:12
Apparently SL models had the dt3’s

Where did you read that? I'm pretty sure it's wrong.

Mezzo SL with SEAS tweeters:

http://i66.tinypic.com/efqrcw.jpg

andyrlb
05-06-2018, 16:18
Where did you read that? I'm pretty sure it's wrong.

Mezzo SL with SEAS tweeters:

http://i66.tinypic.com/efqrcw.jpg

It’s wrong [emoji849]


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andyrlb
05-06-2018, 16:19
Where did you read that? I'm pretty sure it's wrong.

Mezzo SL with SEAS tweeters:

http://i66.tinypic.com/efqrcw.jpg

Is this them ...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180605/ca525a05d33594f8d41299964aad7b75.png


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andyrlb
05-06-2018, 16:22
Dud cap or connection?

Tweeter tests ok when disconnected of course ( 8 ohms ) but when I put the tester on the tweeter connections on the crossover it reads 01.7 ohms ?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180605/6ec1beec82771f79198069987779087f.heichttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180605/3ca00f23e7229e283a05812a37df2db2.heic


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walpurgis
05-06-2018, 16:25
Cap probably.

Don't use the speakers like this. You could blow your amp.

walpurgis
05-06-2018, 16:26
Is this them ...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180605/ca525a05d33594f8d41299964aad7b75.png

That's the Philips tweeter. Nasty things, even more brash than the DT3.

andyrlb
05-06-2018, 16:28
Cap probably.

Don't use the speakers like this. You could blow your amp.

I use the wife’s kitchen shitty thing


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walpurgis
05-06-2018, 16:33
If the Peerless tweeters are sounding Ok, I'd stick with them. They'll be better than the DT3, Philips or SEAS.

andyrlb
05-06-2018, 16:35
If the Peerless tweeters are sounding Ok, I'd stick with them. They'll be better than the DT3, Philips or SEAS.

Will do


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andyrlb
05-06-2018, 17:15
I wonder if this’ll bring back memories for any members....https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180605/d1490713e2b1222a2d31fdadc0f10d39.heic


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andyrlb
05-06-2018, 17:43
Cap probably.

Don't use the speakers like this. You could blow your amp.

Am I right in thinking I just need to replace the black caps Geoff ?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180605/c1c7a1bab274f96a99218ca5cf99585e.heic


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walpurgis
05-06-2018, 18:02
At approaching fifty years of age, I'd not trust any of them and replace the lot. Silver ones too.

andyrlb
05-06-2018, 19:33
Cone vinyl successfully reglued [emoji16]
That brown stuff is original! Not me !



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