Going On A Diet

[Ninanina]

I want to loose some weight so I'm meeting a rep from LighterLife on Friday

Being on the LighterLife Total means only taking in about 600 calories a day so I should lose 1 stone per month... that sounds good to me :)

[Ninanina]

Actually it sounds like starvation.. no pain no gain :eek:

[struth]

You don't need a rep. Just watch what u eat. Main culprits to avoid are alcohol and anything with sugar. Also take less salt. Ive been losing weight just by being strict. It's not that hard once you get used to it.
PS. It's not good to lose it too quickly or it will end up coming back plus you risk your health

Now where's that chocolate beer.

[Ninanina]

You don't need a rep. Just watch what u eat. Main culprits to avoid are alcohol and anything with sugar. Also take less salt. Ive been losing weight just by being strict. It's not that hard once you get used to it.
PS. It's not good to lose it too quickly or it will end up coming back plus you risk your health

Now where's that chocolate beer.

I agree Grant but I need a bit of a quick start... so LighterLife it is.... it's pretty expensive so hopefully I will wean myself off it and just eat sensibly again and as you say no alcohol as that's very rich in calories.. damn it :doh:

[Audio Al]

Bev , how long until you disappere :eek:

[Ninanina]

Bev , how long until you disappere :eek:

Just a few months Al :D

[Primalsea]

A stone a month sounds like a vey unhealthy amount of weight to loose, even if you both dieted and exercised alot.

I can’t comment on the diet program you mention but generally quick loss diets are unsustainable and the weight very easily is put back on once you stop, so you have to stick with a programme that has been designed to keep you as a customer. The issue is that some of these diets put your body into what is effectively starvation mode where in order to survive your body starts to consume itself and this is how the weight is lost. This is the bodies survival contingency plan and not really something you should go through to loose weight.

I don’t mean to put you off, just be careful with who you go with.

[Lee Henley]

I joined slimming world 2 years ago and lost 2.5 stone in the first year and so far have managed to keep the weight off. I still go along to the slimming world group on a Tuesday just to keep an eye on the weight, its worked for me and quite a few of my friends, can highly recommend it

[walpurgis]

A stone a month sounds like a vey unhealthy amount of weight to loose, even if you both dieted and exercised alot

I can lose a stone in a month without effort and it causes me no problems. I was 10.5 stone at xmas and was up to 11.5 stone the other week. Back down to 11 stone now in a couple of weeks just by moderating my eating a bit.

And I'm not big or young! :)

[Firebottle]

I think we need before and after pictures Bev :)

[hifinutt]

I joined slimming world 2 years ago and lost 2.5 stone in the first year and so far have managed to keep the weight off. I still go along to the slimming world group on a Tuesday just to keep an eye on the weight, its worked for me and quite a few of my friends, can highly recommend it

always good to do stuff in groups , well done on keeping it off

[Audio Al]

Im on a staple diet , need to be careful how I chew them ;)

[Primalsea]

I can lose a stone in a month without effort and it causes me no problems. I was 10.5 stone at xmas and was up to 11.5 stone the other week. Back down to 11 stone now in a couple of weeks just by moderating my eating a bit.

And I'm not big or young! :)

From the NHS website

If you're trying to lose weight, the safe weekly rate of weight loss is between 0.5kg and 1kg. That's between around 1lb and 2lb a week.

Lose weight faster than this and you're at risk of health problems that include malnutrition and gallstones, as well as feeling tired and unwell.

Really good info on the NHS website.

[walpurgis]

Yes. I've seen the opinions. They remind me of those for eating breakfast, which I never do.

[Pigmy Pony]

I joined slimming world 2 years ago and lost 2.5 stone in the first year and so far have managed to keep the weight off. I still go along to the slimming world group on a Tuesday just to keep an eye on the weight, its worked for me and quite a few of my friends, can highly recommend it

Slimming World is great! When Mrs Pony goes to the weighbridge each Monday I get the house to myself for a couple of hours, my opportunity to play some of the music choices she politely refers to as "shite".

Plus most of the Slimming World meals she makes are brilliant, and made me lose a little weight too.

[Ninanina]

I think I'm starting diet from Monday evening so just a couple of 'normal' meals before then. Then it's just 600 calories a day for me until I've lost about two stone which should be about three months odd ;)

I'm also having a last little drink tonight, alcohol wise, for many weeks

[MikeMusic]

I reduced what I ate as a permanent diet.
Has worked well and now weight seems stable

No pain no pain
:)

[struth]

Ive lost a fair bit. As usual you lose most in first couple of weeks. Now it's a steady dribble. Cut out the big problem foods and fill up on stuff with fewer cals.

Chicken fish and pork for protein and rice for staple filler. Plenty fibre. Both types. Reduce salt. Fruit and veg. Oats. Use mild cream cheese instead of cheddar etc. Semi skimmed instead of whole. Candarel instead of sugar. That sort of thing. Don't eat after 7pm. Keep well hydrated with water

[Minstrel SE]

I wandered round today in my sandals and campervan t shirt realising that i have so much torso weight now and I just look fat with a huge beer belly and chest weight. The t shirt tents out like Im pregnant...all bought and paid for I joke but its not funny really

My neck size has gone up to a 17 and was a 15.5 not so long ago. Luckily the charity shops had some lovely collezione M&S and next shirts etc because Im having to change my wardrobe fast. Its the nice clothes that no longer fit that bugs me

Ive gone from a medium in certain things to bulging out of a large size and needing extra large

Its not funny and I have been reading about 7 day fasting with minimal intake. Ive been stuffing my face and it needs sorting says someone who has a fridge full of beer and who has just finished a pack of Sainsburys bakery counter biscuits.

Its just pure laziness with me at the moment and I do intend to start running and join the gym...maybe tomorrow eh

[walpurgis]

I have a job finding anything that fits me in the way of clothes and shoes. Not because of weight, just because I'm a strange shape and size. I need XL jackets 'cos I'm quite wide, but the sleeves are always too long. Trousers are always too long for my short legs and finding 5 1/2 sized shoes for my small feet is tricky!

[Scooby]

I'm not sure if this helps, but I lost weight by studying what made me eat.

Any reasonably strong emotional stimulus, whether good or bad, sent me to the fridge or the nearest fast food joint. I still do this if I get excited, angry or otherwise animated, but I always have fresh coffee on the go and I hit this first. By the time I'm halfway through a cup, the "spike" in my appetite has passed.

Also, being cold around the house often makes me eat without realising. Since I whacked up the thermostat I'm always on the warm side and rarely snack.

Neither of these may work for others, but then again they just might.

[alexk0il]

A stone a month sounds like a vey unhealthy amount of weight to loose, even if you both dieted and exercised alot.
...
The issue is that some of these diets put your body into what is effectively starvation mode where in order to survive your body starts to consume itself and this is how the weight is lost.

I don’t mean to put you off, just be careful with who you go with.

Absolutely!!!

To put it in a simple way, half of your weight will be lost due to your body consuming your fat and half of it due to consuming your muscles. Losing half of you heart muscle is never a good idea for men of certain age. Are you sure you need to lose a stone in one month?

[Ninanina]

......your body starts to consume itself....


Absolutely!!!

To put it in a simple way, half of your weight will be lost due to your body consuming your fat and half of it due to consuming your muscles. Losing half of you heart muscle is never a good idea for men of certain age. Are you sure you need to lose a stone in one month?

That's exactly what I want to happen Paul..

Don't worry Alex I will only be on the diet for a maximum of 12 weeks which is the recommendation from the NHS for a VLCD (Very Low Calorie Diet) so it's a quick way to loose quite a bit of weight and then afterwards not going back to the way you used to eat, which is what put the weight on in the first place, but eating a more balanced and healthier diet

[mikeyb]

Slimming World [emoji6]

Don't need to attend classes we just bought the books and do the recipes, never eaten so much food in my life and lost weight very easily.

It works [emoji4]

[Pigmy Pony]

Slimming World [emoji6]

Don't need to attend classes we just bought the books and do the recipes, never eaten so much food in my life and lost weight very easily.

It works [emoji4]

+1. Some great recipes.

[mad-moon]

Sent you a pm Bev....

[Minstrel SE]

Ive been comfort eating and I think the problem is how easy it is to source lots of food that isnt particularly healthy

Ok the responsibility lies with me and I feel much better when I eat healthily.

The problem is im too tempted by family bags of crisps or a reduced bannoffe tart. I then start false regimes where I have cut cheese out but am stuffing myself with fig rolls.

I dont feel I have the time or money to cook properly

I have started a diet today and Ive not eaten anything yet . I just have some tomatoes in the fridge and the summer weather should make me want less. Im going to see what a week of semi fasting does because I was in a shirt and trousers yesterday and simply embarrassed that my stomach is bulging out and my trousers sit uder my belly with belts on the last hole. I feel less bloated today and I can lose weight reasonably quickly.

I sort of want to test how the body uses these fat reserves because it is designed to do that. I will be down to one piece of lean chicken and a tomato to munch.

If we couldnt source all the rubbish we would have to put more effort into eating healthy and I think we just wouldnt eat as much. I think there is an argument to say the food industry needs more regulation that Jamies sugar tax. They will produce any old rubbish if it makes a profit. You cant tell me that a lot of it is in any way healthy

[Pieoftheday]

Just cut back on the sugar and booze,that's a hard one for me,and go for a good walk 5 days a week,job done:)

[struth]

body is inclined to have a go at your muscle tho. starvation diets aint good unless theres a medical reason. do away with red meat, fatty stuff, and use olive oil etc. plenty veg, and fibre. dont snack.:)

[Pieoftheday]

body is inclined to have a go at your muscle tho. starvation diets aint good unless theres a medical reason. do away with red meat, fatty stuff, and use olive oil etc. plenty veg, and fibre. dont snack.:)

No steak or butter??? Mmm steak with garlic butter:)

[Pigmy Pony]

A few years ago I bought my stepdad a George Foreman grill for Christmas. I thought it may help cut down the fat in his diet.

A couple of weeks later I asked him how he was doing with it.

"Great," he said. I grilled a steak on it and then later I took the fat that was collected on that little tray and made myself a dripping butty - I've not had one of them since I was a kid!"

There's no helping some people.

[Pieoftheday]

A few years ago I bought my stepdad a George Foreman grill for Christmas. I thought it may help cut down the fat in his diet.

A couple of weeks later I asked him how he was doing with it.

"Great," he said. I grilled a steak on it and then later I took the fat that was collected on that little tray and made myself a dripping butty - I've not had one of them since I was a kid!"

There's no helping some people.

Ooh that sounds yummy:cool:

[struth]

No steak or butter??? Mmm steak with garlic butter:)

no steak...bad boy... use colesterol busting marg... some of its ok, and will help. butter only occasionally, ... either you want to be healthier or you dont... might as well go the whole hog; its that or the operating table:D

[Minstrel SE]

No steak or butter??? Mmm steak with garlic butter:)

yes but I play at it in silly ways. I feel good that I havent been buying butter but stuff myself with biscuits and cakes.

Recently its been beer and lots of crisps and biscuits....a packet of fig rolls has been going down fast...well four packets over the days as they are 40p each :)

I fancy a ham sandwich now with mayonaise, wholegrain and honey mustard :) Mayonaise can be the spreader as its better than butter...probably not

Seriously Im not eating much for a few days

[Pieoftheday]

no steak...bad boy... use colesterol busting marg... some of its ok, and will help. butter only occasionally, ... either you want to be healthier or you dont... might as well go the whole hog; its that or the operating table:D

Had a fantastic steak the other week with garlic butter and king prawns:) and fries

[Ian7633]

I've just finished a two week course of Co-amoxiclav and I can tell you it's a very effective way of losing weight very quickly. The downside is it makes you feel like you've been Dyno-rodded lol

[walpurgis]

I've been on that a few times. Can't say I noticed any untoward effects.

[Macca]

It's all just calories in vs calories out when it comes down to it.

High protein diet and cut out the simple carbohydrates as much as possible, the high protein will make you feel full. And don't cut out the fat. Eating fat doesn't make you fat, but eating a low fat diet will reduce your serotonin levels and make you miserable.
So steer clear of that shitty margarine stuff and eat proper butter and drink blue top milk. Eating steak is fine, recommended even, but eat it with veg, not chips.

Have a brisk walk every day regardless of weather, at least 2 miles, that gets the whole system moving. Try to stay around 1500 calories a day, and the weight will just fall off you.

[Clive]

It's all just calories in vs calories out when it comes down to it.

High protein diet and cut out the simple carbohydrates as much as possible, the high protein will make you feel full. And don't cut out the fat. Eating fat doesn't make you fat, but eating a low fat diet will reduce your serotonin levels and make you miserable.
So steer clear of that shitty margarine stuff and eat proper butter and drink blue top milk. Eating steak is fine, recommended even, but eat it with veg, not chips.

Have a brisk walk every day regardless of weather, at least 2 miles, that gets the whole system moving. Try to stay around 1500 calories a day, and the weight will just fall off you.

I very much agree with this. There's nothing wrong with fat as long as you don't eat loads of it. Full fat yogurt, butter etc are fine. For me sugar is the bigger issue and with sugar I include refined carbs as they turn to sugar in our bodies and without accompanying fibre they turn to fat as they are processed very quickly, before we can use that energy.

3 years ago I went of a 5-2 diet where I had strict calorie control for 2 days and sensible but more normal eating for the other 5 days. I did however cut out a lot of sugar intake and refined carbs such as bread, pasta and rice. I used to eat toast & marmalade for breakfast and a sandwich for lunch. I've not eaten a sandwich now in over 3 years. Over 4 months I lost 2st. I then came off the 5-2 and maintained the change in diet, ie very little refined carbs (chips once every 2 weeks) and reduced sugar. In the time since I've lost another 4lbs and at times I have to make an effort to keep my weight up - this usually involves beer. Seriously, if I don't have around 6 or 8 bottles of beer over a week I lose weight. It's a hard life! I make my own full fat yogurt and have this daily for breakfast with fruit, I find this helps my digestion.

Our metabolisms vary so we all need to find what works for ourselves. Certainly avoid low fat rubbish with added sugar!

[Minstrel SE]

Right thats it the diet has started after two days of fasting.

No bread, no cheese, NO CRISPS, no biscuits, sweets or cakes, no beer, no spread fillers like butter or mayonaise. No yoghurts and reduced dairy down to skimmed milk only. No products like pickled onions, condiments and sauces. anything that looks unnecessary is out

With increased exercise, that should pretty much do it over the next few months :)

The simple fact is that that are far too many food products that we just dont need and that are harmful to us. A massive slab of chocolate is just harmful in my view as all these processed puddings are. Crisps have become the ultimate convenience product but they are far from healthy eating

We become obsessed with fillers and slapping things in bread to bulk them out. Butter and cheese are just fats.

I have bought some mixed veg, nectarines, ham, tomatoes and some chicken sausages. I will get that down to lean chicken pieces, lean meats fruit and veg. A few potatoes as a natural filler.

I know eating is pleasureable but I didnt know when to stop...packets of things were getting eaten in one sitting and its just not on. Im feeling better already like I could start to run half a mile. The stomach tautens up nicely and the weight around my moobs has dropped already :)

[Macca]

. Im feeling better already like I could start to run half a mile.

Steady now!

[Puffin]

There was a programme on BBC1 last night "The Big Crash Diet Experiment", some of you may have seen it. The one who had the greatest weight loss was a vicar who I didn't see doing any exercise, some of the others were shown exercising. He reversed his Type 2 Diabetes and said he felt great. IMO he looked terrible, you lose a lot of weight off your face when you diet in later life (I know) His body shape remained the same.

There are many and complex reasons for eating a poor diet or too much food etc, but often body dysmorphia prevents some from changing eating habits or exercising for better health or to feel better about how they look. If you can get a better looking and leaner body that works better then you are more likely to sustain the changes IMO of course.

[walpurgis]

I've gone up from ten and a half stone to nearly twelve stone since xmas, so I'm cutting down on my food intake. Around eleven stone will be fine. Should do that quickly.

[Ninanina]

I am in my third week of the diet and have lost just over half a stone which I'm pretty happy with and a couple of inches off the waistline

I felt a bit rough for a couple of days in the first week but now I'm actually finding it pretty easy and on about 600-800 calories a day and because of being in Ketosis I am not hungry

[Minstrel SE]

Why do we get the cravings though especially in middle age?

I cut out biscuits and cakes but Im just binge eating 1KG boxes of fruit and fibre cereal. Ive relapsed on the crisps with at least two family bags and Im snacking on anything thats on offer..... packeted sandwiches with cheese in them, ham anything that isnt biscuits and cakes.

It gets incredibly boring eating next to nothing and then the cravings start. The body just isnt good at regulating itself and it craves more until my belly is bulging. I cant be hungry so why do I feel like eating more?

Even with a big layer of fat the body craves more. It really should be better at using that fat and not wanting more food :)

[Ninanina]

Why do we get the cravings though especially in middle age.


I still have cravings just not about food :lol:

Crisps are my weakness.. I just love them but had no thoughts about them on this diet...


It really should be better at using that fat and not wanting more food

Being in Ketosis is the answer when it comes to using up your fat reserves and not wanting more food, or being hungry for that matter

[nonuffin]

I lost ten pounds last week.


Had a hole in my pocket.


:lol:

[RobbieGong]

I lost ten pounds last week.


Had a hole in my pocket.


:lol:

:lol: quality !

[walpurgis]

My diet seems very effective. I've put on three more pounds this week. :)

[Ninanina]

I lost ten pounds last week.
Had a hole in my pocket.
:lol:

Classic.... :rfl:

[Pigmy Pony]

I am in my third week of the diet and have lost just over half a stone which I'm pretty happy with and a couple of inches off the waistline

I felt a bit rough for a couple of days in the first week but now I'm actually finding it pretty easy and on about 600-800 calories a day and because of being in Ketosis I am not hungry

Good on yer Bev, you have a lot more willpower than me.

The problem is that I know dieting is good, but Bounty bars and ice cream are better :) I've told Mrs. P that I only eat this stuff if it's there, so if she stops buying them I'll stop eating them.

I know what she's thinking, Way to a man's heart etc. I need some tough love! :spank:

What's Ketosis? do Kelloggs make it?

[willbewill]

Never mind a diet, my dairy intolerance does a good job of keeping my weight down.

[Ninanina]

I've had to stop my LighterLife diet as it's just so boring, you don't eat any normal food, just the LighterLife packs and they really don't taste very nice. LighterLife is also very expensive at £60+ per week

I made my mind up to stop it as last week I only lost 1lb and that was sticking to it religiously

I have now started my own very low carb diet, similar to Atkins I guess, which means I can eat normal food again. I had a nice salad last night which was lovely after 3 weeks of packet food

I should get into full Ketosis within a couple of days which means the weight should come off quite easily

[Minstrel SE]

I think the ketogenic based diets are the answer. The right things where the weight comes off more gradually together with increased exercise. I think you have to enjoy eating and gradually reduce weight

I was flicking through the Hairy Dieters book (Im not really a fan) and It looks like a banquet in there of recipies you can eat. Im struggling to see how that is a diet but I suppose if they are healthier cooked foods then the weight does come off with a reasonable intake of food.

Fasting and barely eating anything doesnt last long with me. I can manage about two days but will then binge so its no good really.

I fancy a chocolate trifle that I saw in the shop yesterday. Thou shalt deliver us from temptation :)

[Ninanina]

I think the ketosis based diets are the answer. I think you have to eat good things but the right things and the weight comes off more gradually together with increased exercise. I think you have to enjoy eating and gradually reduce weight
I was flicking through the Hairy Dieters book (Im not really a fan) book and It looks like a banquet in there of recipies you can eat. Im struggling to see how that is a diet but I suppose if they are healthier cooked foods then the weight does come off with a reasonable intake of food.


I agree Martin

Exercise wise I've just purchased a really good elliptical trainer for use at home... I won it on eBay for just £5.50 !! it's well over £300 new and it was just a couple of miles away so picked it up last night

My other exercise is my bike but as it's electric I don't get as much as a normal bike but I still have to pedal so it will help as well

It's just really nice to eat 'normal' food again

[Primalsea]

Hi Bev, please be careful when exercising while on a diet that alters your metabolism. Take it real easy at first and adjust into it slowly. Also be aware that if you increase your exercise you might initially gain weight as your muscles build themselves up in order to accommodate an increase in physical demand. This weight gain is good, not bad, you will still be depleting your fat reserves.

Well done, hope you keep it up, it’s not easy.

[Ninanina]

Hi Bev, please be careful when exercising while on a diet that alters your metabolism. Take it real easy at first and adjust into it slowly. Also be aware that if you increase your exercise you might initially gain weight as your muscles build themselves up in order to accommodate an increase in physical demand. This weight gain is good, not bad, you will still be depleting your fat reserves.

Well done, hope you keep it up, it’s not easy.

Thanks Paul for the info... I will indeed take it very easy at first

I agree muscle build up is good and if I gain weight because of it that's just fine as long as the measurements (top, tum etc) are getting better ;)

[walpurgis]

Hmm. Weighed myself earlier and I'm approaching twelve stone. I was ten and a half at christmas. It's probably because I've packed up smoking. Will eat less!

[Ninanina]

Well I've lost just over a stone but seem to have plateaued a bit

I've had little or no carbs and/or anything sweet for weeks now and I don't miss either at all so finding my new diet as easy as

I am sure I will start to loose more weight soon

Am going to start playing badminton again so I'm sure that will help as well

[walpurgis]

Three quarters of a stone gone in a month without really trying. All I've done is up the fruit 'n veg intake. Just over 11 stone now, was nearly twelve not far back. Remember, I'm not a big guy and should be around ten and a half stone.

[Ninanina]

Three quarters of a stone gone in a month without really trying. All I've done is up the fruit 'n veg intake. Just over 11 stone now, was nearly twelve not far back. Remember, I'm not a big guy and should be around ten and a half stone.

Well done Geoff

Much of my diet is also made up of salad & veg now

[Tim]

Well I've lost just over a stone but seem to have plateaued a bit
This does happen and is quite common Bev.

There is a lot of science now in support of what's called a 'set point' where your body will attempt to defend what it considers your normal weight. When you go below your set point, appetite and metabolism can adjust to try and return you to your set point, in simple terms it tries to store energy (fat) rather than burn it. Your metabolism can slow in an attempt to conserve energy and to try and use the fewer calories it receives more effectively. Many people who diet experience uncontrollable urges to binge, because their bodies ask for more food than is being provided and what it is used to.

This goes a long way in explaining why rapid weight loss often fails, with many people returning to the weight they were or even gaining weight in the long term. Set point's can be altered but it takes time and losing weight slowly by lifestyle changes as opposed to short term calorie restriction is often preferable.

It's not easy I know, I've been there, but keep at it as the long term rewards outweigh the short term pain. So I wish you the very best on your journey :)

[Macca]

If you keep taking in less calories than you burn then you will lose weight, there's not really any more to it.

Losing a stone in weight is pretty good going, that's a lot if you're only little. You must be noticing a significant difference in how you feel.

Oh and vegetables are full of carbs by the way :)

[struth]

A slow drop is what you want, after the initial quick drop is over. The body does regroup and tries to reduce its loses, but you will lose weight if you dont eat(thats not the way though). Trick is to get body and mind both happy with what you are eating. I ve lost a lot of weight but its very slow. waist is down a lot as is everything else i guess. still a long way to go, but to do it right it takes a long time, just as it took a long time to put it all on. Always drink plenty of water tho...most important and try and avoid refined sugars.

[Tim]

Losing a stone in weight is pretty good going
I lost 6 stone Martin over a period of 2 and a bit years, I didn't go on what people would call a 'diet' either, tried those and they never worked for me.

As you say it's actually very simple, just burn more than you consume and you lose weight - the hard bit is doing it!

[Macca]

I lost 6 stone Martin over a period of 2 and a bit years, I didn't go on what people would call a 'diet' either, tried those and they never worked for me.

As you say it's actually very simple, just burn more than you consume and you lose weight - the hard bit is doing it!

6 stone! I guess you are quite big anyway though?

I've never had to diet to lose weight. Years ago when I was in training I used to eat 6000 calories a day. Put about half a stone on over 3 years. Lost it as soon as I stopped. I'm just not destined to be fat I guess.


Know a few females who are always on some type of weight loss diet or other. These things are just designed to confuse the ignorant and sell diet products. Calories in vs calories out is all that matters for weight loss or gain, if you want to eat healthy that's a different topic entirely. They do these diets where almost everything has 'points' and you can eat so many points a day. Some things are free, like fruit even though it is fairly high in calories. They try to avoid fat because they think eating fat makes you fat, they try to avoid sugar but don't understand that all carbs are sugar.

Tried to point out that fruit is full of sugar but they don't get it. When you try to explain the difference between simple and complex carbs or why fat doesn't make you fat their eyes glaze over. Can't understand why anyone would embark on a diet without researching nutrition and diet properly first but it takes all sorts I suppose.

[Tim]

6 stone! I guess you are quite big anyway though?
Actually no, I was between 11½ and 12 stone most of my adult life and pretty active. Then I got an office job at 50 which was very intense and was literally chained to a desk for around 9 hours a day, often more. My food intake stayed about the same, but my activity levels dropped and there were bribes in the form of food (cakes/biscuits/savouries) from people who had an 'important' job that needed doing fast! It took 6 years, but my weight went up to 18½ stone without me really doing much about it, denial I guess - I just kept buying bigger clothes and my waist size went up to 42". I also kind of thought I felt crap because I was getting older, but now I've lost the weight I know that was denial too.


"Tried to point out that fruit is full of sugar but they don't get it. When you try to explain the difference between simple and complex carbs or why fat doesn't make you fat their eyes glaze over. Can't understand why anyone would embark on a diet without researching nutrition and diet properly first but it takes all sorts I suppose"

This was key, I knew conventional diets didn't work for me and were mostly a money making marketing exercise. A calorie isn't just a calorie when it comes to losing weight successfully. I spent many hours learning about nutrition, religiously kept a food diary and never ate anything low fat or diet food related, which apart from tasting horrible, I don't consider good for you and the science backs that up. Learning about my body type helped too, especially how I process carbohydrates as I'm an Endomorph.

My biggest issue is I love food and I'm not a bad cook. I cook from scratch all the time even though it's just me, but always cook in bulk - so I have a problem with portion control and returning to the pot for more, even when I know I've had enough! So it's healthy food, just more than I need at times. Got a handle on it now though (most of the time ;)).

[Ninanina]

I reverted to Slimming World a few weeks ago and it's a very healthy diet but calling it a diet is just wrong as it's more a way of life really

I'm not going to any SW meetings as I find those so boring but one of my best friends wife is a Slimming World consultant so she's given me the appropriate books etc

Slimming World is so easy to follow and although I'm not losing the weight that I did on the 'crash diet' the weight is still coming off steadily, which is nice ;)

[walpurgis]

I reverted to Boozing World this week. I'm eating sensibly though. :)

[Ninanina]

I reverted to Boozing World this week. I'm eating sensibly though. :)



:rfl::rfl:

[struth]

I'm still off it... been a long time :D

[Ian7633]

I have struggled with my weight all my life, tried more diets than you can shake a stick at and basically had the same result, lose weight and then it just goes straight back on. I've now got the diagnosis that my metabolism is all to cock and will always struggle. My GP and the very kind consultant at the hospital are exploring the possibility of me having a gastric bypass now as it would be the only way to control my wayward innards.
What I was leading onto was my previous GP put me on Orlistat, which at the time was prescription only but you can now buy over the counter as XLS Medical. I followed the instructions to the letter and did lose some weight, however the side effects were horrendous, stomach cramp, nausea and needing to be close to a lavatory all the time. That was over 20 years ago and I still have problems caused by the drug.
As previous posts say you have to use more energy that you take in and re-educate your entire system to accept less input.

[Ninanina]

I'm sorry to hear that you might need a gastric bypass Ian, that sounds very nasty :(

That Orlistat sounds very bad...

[Ian7633]

I'm sorry to hear that you might need a gastric bypass Ian, that sounds very nasty :(

That Orlistat sounds very bad...

Thanks Bev, I'll fit in those skinny jeans yet.....not hahaha.

I only mentioned Orlistat as a precautionary tale, a lot of people do very well with it but I would recommend anyone thinking of trying it to talk to their GP first.

[Ninanina]

Thanks Bev, I'll fit in those skinny jeans yet.....not hahaha.

I only mentioned Orlistat as a precautionary tale, a lot of people do very well with it but I would recommend anyone thinking of trying it to talk to their GP first.

Get those skinny jeans out Ian and be ready to squeeze into them :D

I will definitely not be trying Orlistat or any other drug, I'll just stick to SW and be much healthier for it...

Good luck with the gastric bypass if you go ahead with it, I'll be thinking of you... ;)

[Ian7633]

Anyway I've just bought a new amp so it's bread and water for the next month anyway lol

[Ninanina]

Anyway I've just bought a new amp so it's bread and water for the next month anyway lol

I know the feeling Ian.... :doh: