Past, present or future..?

[Haselsh1]

If there is no such thing as the future because it hasn't happened yet, how can someone travel back in time to where we are..? How could we travel forward in time when that time doesn't exist..? It hasn't happened yet. On top of that, there is no past either and we could never travel there because of that very reason. We only think of the past because our brains remember what was the present. There is no past and there is no future. The Sex Pistols said it so well

;)

[walpurgis]

Perhaps there is no time and everything is happening at once. Anyway, how can we say we are travelling forward, nothing indicates a direction? Time on the human level is just our yardstick for perceived passing of events.

[Haselsh1]

Yep, it is simply the interval between events on our human level. Regarding direction though, current thinking is why does time only move forward..? One day moves to the next and we get older as does everything else. None of us get younger so the only direction appears to be forward. Why..?

Current thinking also indicates that all we have is what is happening right now which brought me to my original thought.

What the hell.;)

[Haselsh1]

Geoff, I also get your point. Nothing indicates a direction except a clock ticking away. Without a clock how would time have a direction..? Very good point.

A few thousand years ago human time would have had no direction.

[walpurgis]

There is no present that can be experienced. By the time anything registers, it has already passed.

[Gazjam]

The one Im really curious about is i2s?

My dac has that input, and my final digital transport is more than several paychecks away so I ask, are there any cheap i2s output transport options?
Been down the Pi route already, not wanting to invest in the power supplies etc to get it at its best...which I never really got on with anyway.

ta.

[narabdela]

I need a drink. :comatose:

[Pigmy Pony]

Surely the only way to travel into the future would be to travel faster than the speed of light, therefore arriving before you set off.

I think the only likely destination is insanity, as our feeble human brains need this 'time construct' in order to make sense of our world.

I don't know why I'm bothering to type this, as the recipients don't exist, and this post comes from your past, which doesn't exist either. :) I'm more inclined to believe that everything is happening everywhere, all the time.

:drugs:

[Haselsh1]

There is no present that can be experienced. By the time anything registers, it has already passed.

But there is no past as it only exists as a memory in our heads and our concept of the future only exists through anticipation. In real terms the future does not exist and neither does the past. That can only leave us with about three seconds of reality..?

Travel to the past cannot happen for that very reason. It is not real. Travel to the future cannot happen because it is not real either. It hasn't happened and when it does it is the present.

:eyebrows:

[Haselsh1]

I think the only likely destination is insanity, as our feeble human brains need this 'time construct' in order to make sense of our world.

Maybe why some of us cling on to religion, to make sense of the World and its finality..?

[walpurgis]

That can only leave us with about three seconds of reality..?

I'd love to see how that's worked out Shaun. :)

[struth]

only real time is spacetime and beertime

[jandl100]

all of our perceptions are just electrical impulses along nerves into the brain which then overlays an interpretation.
it's all just nerve pulses.
there's nothing out there at all, really.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/PmwAAOSwv-ZaL3UD/s-l300.jpg

[walpurgis]

there's nothing out there at all, really

There is. I just opened the curtains and had a look. :)

[Pigmy Pony]

all of our perceptions are just electrical impulses along nerves into the brain which then overlays an interpretation.
it's all just nerve pulses.
there's nothing out there at all, really.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/PmwAAOSwv-ZaL3UD/s-l300.jpg

Just because your speakers are so big they eclipse the rest of the world, doesn't mean there's nothing behind them!

[Haselsh1]

There is. I just opened the curtains and had a look. :)

Jesus yeah, some scientists are asking themselves if anything is actually real. How do we know that it is real and whether it exists when we cannot see it.

I think I'll just carry on listening to Prog especially King Crimson. Compared to reality it is the only damn thing that makes any sense.

;)

[Haselsh1]

all of our perceptions are just electrical impulses along nerves into the brain which then overlays an interpretation.
it's all just nerve pulses.
there's nothing out there at all, really.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/PmwAAOSwv-ZaL3UD/s-l300.jpg

And of course, if there was no life in the universe, what would be the point of the universe..? What would be the point of anything without a being to appreciate it..?

[walpurgis]

And of course, if there was no life in the universe, what would be the point of the universe..? What would be the point of anything without a being to appreciate it..?

That's the point. There is no point. It just happens.

[Joe]

And of course, if there was no life in the universe, what would be the point of the universe..? What would be the point of anything without a being to appreciate it..?

At some point, and indeed for billions of years, there was no life in the universe; it just pootled along with nobody to appreciate it, as it will no doubt continue to do long after all life has become extinct.

[walpurgis]

At some point, and indeed for billions of years, there was no life in the universe; it just pootled along with nobody to appreciate it, as it will no doubt continue to do long after all life has become extinct.

Absolutely. Long after Earth is incinerated by a supernova Sun.

[jandl100]

Absolutely. Long after Earth is incinerated by a supernova Sun.

Actually, the sun won't go supernova, it's not massive enough, but it will expand into a red giant star that will pretty certainly swallow Venus and Mercury, quite possibly Earth as well.
Even if it doesn't swallow us, it will be this giant nuclear furnace just a few millions of miles away. Not good. :nono:

[struth]

frying tonight :eek:

[Joe]

Actually, the sun won't go supernova, it's not massive enough, but it will expand into a red giant start that will pretty certainly swallow Venus and Mercury, quite possibly Earth as well.
Even if it doesn't swallow us, it will be this giant nuclear furnace just a few millions of miles away. Not good. :nono:

On the other hand, 'leccy prices will tumble.

[jandl100]

frying tonight :eek:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nike7BNrJ5A

[Haselsh1]

Oh at last, the conversation has got onto something classic - Carry On Screaming..! Also, Carry On Don't Lose Your Head. Bloody love that big cheese comment.

[struth]

Oh at last, the conversation has got onto something classic - Carry On Screaming..! Also, Carry On Don't Lose Your Head. Bloody love that big cheese comment.

Im camembert...Im the big cheese around here [emoji23]

And the Duc de pommfrit... he will soon have had his chips

[Haselsh1]

British humour at its best and most unoffensive.

[Haselsh1]

"Pop it in the basket I'll read it later" just as he is laid on the guillotine.

And of course Sir Rodney Effing.

[Barry]

And of course, if there was no life in the universe, what would be the point of the universe..? What would be the point of anything without a being to appreciate it..?

Come to this thread a bit late - but why should there be any 'point' of the universe? We exist because the Universe is the way it is and not vice versa.

[Pigmy Pony]

Methinks we overestimate our importance in the scheme of things.

When the next global catastrophe occurs (maybe caused by us, maybe not) and all that's left are the cockroaches and Kanye West, Earth will pick itself up, dust itself off and carry on. And it will be like we never existed.

I don't know how poor Kanye will manage though, with no one to hear his shite.

[walpurgis]

it will be like we never existed

It might be best if we never had. Humans do the world and themselves no good!

[Pigmy Pony]

To the world we are nothing more than a dose of crabs. When the itching gets too much it'll see us off.

[jandl100]

Actually, the sun won't go supernova, it's not massive enough, but it will expand into a red giant star that will pretty certainly swallow Venus and Mercury, quite possibly Earth as well.
Even if it doesn't swallow us, it will be this giant nuclear furnace just a few millions of miles away. Not good. :nono:

Ah well, here you go with the latest research.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41550-018-0453-9
--- and a simplified and more general version https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/07/sun_death_nebula/

As the Sun turns into a red giant star it will create a planetary nebula around it (no, nothng to do with planets, the name is an historical misunderstanding as they looked a bit like planets in the small and relatively crude early telescopes).
Previously, it had been thought that the sun was too small to create such a nebula.

So, we'll still be cremated but our cemetery may well look like one of these. Not a bad way to go. :)

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.biguniverse.ru%2Fmedia%2F2011% 2F08%2FPlanetary-nebulae.jpg&f=1