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mikmas
13-04-2018, 09:43
"HD vinyl is happening, set to give your turntable a high-definition makeover"


https://www.techradar.com/news/hd-vinyl-is-happening-set-to-give-your-turntable-a-high-definition-makeover

walpurgis
13-04-2018, 09:47
"HD vinyl is happening, set to give your turntable a high-definition makeover"


https://www.techradar.com/news/hd-vinyl-is-happening-set-to-give-your-turntable-a-high-definition-makeover

Will it be achieved without compression? If so will current cartridges be able to track it or will modulation be reduced to compensate, resulting in lower outputs requiring more amplifying?

mikmas
13-04-2018, 10:22
More detail from the initiating company's website:

Rebeat Innovation (https://hdvinyl.org)

Joe
13-04-2018, 10:34
Already audiophiles everywhere are saving up to buy yet another copy of Dark Side of the Moon in this new format.

jandl100
13-04-2018, 10:34
Will it be achieved without compression? If so will current cartridges be able to track it or will modulation be reduced to compensate, resulting in lower outputs requiring more amplifying?

"The biggest thing, however, is that HD vinyl promises to be 100% backwards compatible."

Although quite what that actually means isn't made clear in the Techradar mini-article.
In fact it doesn't say much about it at all.

https://hdvinyl.org/

... "HD Vinyl is a massive improvement over traditional vinyl records."

And there we were being told vinyl was perfect already. ;)

walpurgis
13-04-2018, 10:46
Perhaps it will lead us into the kind of 'new era' that the Sinclair C5 did (not)!

narabdela
13-04-2018, 11:37
What about the Snap, Crackle, and Pop? Will that be High-Def too? :rolleyes:

Haselsh1
13-04-2018, 11:42
Already audiophiles everywhere are saving up to buy yet another copy of Dark Side of the Moon in this new format.

:lol:

Beobloke
13-04-2018, 11:45
As far as I'm concerned, vinyl is already high-definition!

bumpy
13-04-2018, 14:51
Oh dear, more digital processing.

STD305M
13-04-2018, 15:30
They need to leave vinyl alone
Nothing wrong with it as it is.

Steve...

magiccarpetride
13-04-2018, 18:37
"HD vinyl is happening, set to give your turntable a high-definition makeover"


https://www.techradar.com/news/hd-vinyl-is-happening-set-to-give-your-turntable-a-high-definition-makeover

HD vinyl makes as much sense as 'digital speakers'.

Pigmy Pony
13-04-2018, 18:41
30% more amplitude, AND 30% more playing time? Surely it'll skip like buggery.

Ok for Kanye West fans, they won't notice any difference :)

Jazid
13-04-2018, 20:37
Well I've read the blurb and, discounting the obvious fluff and evangelism of a new idea, I don't think it's a bad idea. Laser cut ceramic stamps seen a step forward, and no waffle about digitals anywhere. Agreed the crap about total elimination of radial vs tangential tracking error is somewhat embarrassing, but worth suspending disbelief.

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Michael loves music
13-04-2018, 20:52
Carol Kirkwood and Louise Minchin in HD on bbc breakfast is amazing

paulf-2007
14-04-2018, 07:33
Carol Kirkwood and Louise Minchin in HD on bbc breakfast is amazing

Really? When we got our Sony Bravia 55" turbo nutter bastard thingy carol kirkwood looked rougher than on our old tv.

Macca
14-04-2018, 07:50
This isn't new, I remember reading about it a couple of years back. It makes sense to me, you should get a much more accurate pressing. Not that it is a pressing anymore but that's the whole point isn't it? Imagine records with no off-centre holes. If I was still into vinyl I'd be quite excited about this, although I wouldn't really want to consider buying my collection all over again.

Except for Dark Side Of The Moon. Isn't there some rule that says you have to own every version of that?

Joe
14-04-2018, 07:52
Except for Dark Side Of The Moon. Isn't there some rule that says you have to own every version of that?

I don't own even one version of it. I know the album well though because years ago the students in the house next door played it incessantly one summer.

anthonyTD
14-04-2018, 09:09
:eek::lol::lol:Cracked me up reading that!
Really? When we got our Sony Bravia 55" turbo nutter bastard thingy ..

Marco
14-04-2018, 10:05
They need to leave vinyl alone
Nothing wrong with it as it is.


Yup, bollox to it. As soon as you apply any form of digital processing to vinyl, you're no longer listening to a true analogue sound, which consequently, adversely impacts on the music. Fact: Every applied 'process' in the recording or replay chain imparts a sonic signture.

So leave vinyl alone and keep it pure! :exactly:

Marco.

Jazid
14-04-2018, 11:30
I've looked through their blurb and still see no explicit reference to digital processes in the translation from electronic to physical format. An HD master will almost certainly be produced digitally now, as it will for conventional pressings so I can't see an obvious change of quality in that. Transcriptions from original master tapes from the golden age can still be kept analogue, to my mind its just the pressing process that is changing, and reliable quality new records seems to be an honorable aim. So let's wait and see since it's coming anyway, the only frightening thought is yet another generation of people playing out loud those cursed clocks on DSOTM :)

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Michael loves music
14-04-2018, 14:41
Really? When we got our Sony Bravia 55" turbo nutter bastard thingy carol kirkwood looked rougher than on our old tv. I would suggest you get an Oled LG carol is gorgeous

walpurgis
14-04-2018, 14:54
I would suggest you get an Oled LG carol is gorgeous

Not really my cup of tea mate. :)

paulf-2007
14-04-2018, 16:29
I would suggest you get an Oled LG carol is gorgeous
So you can't see the wrinkles on the LG:lol:

Michael loves music
14-04-2018, 16:40
Not really my cup of tea mate. :) we all have different tastes Geoff :)

Pigmy Pony
16-04-2018, 16:44
HD does no one any favours, and 4K makes them rougher than a badgers arse. :(

When I watch in SD and take my glasses off, they all look gorgeous, even the blokes

Floyddroid
17-04-2018, 20:49
As far as I'm concerned, vinyl is already high-definition!

This sir is without doubt the best reply.