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Running Roon ROCK on an Intel NUC, but for some reason it keeps losing connection with the audio device, in this case my SoTM SMS200 streamer. Just installed the NUC yesterday.
Spotify Connect will run all day no issues but Roon loses the audio device every 90-200 seconds. It's really beginning to P me off as I want to like Roon and Tidal but having used a Pi setup for over 2 years with virtually no issues, I'm thinking of giving up on Roon once this trial ends and just go back to Spotify full time again.
I've tried radio stations, Tidal streaming and my own files, same result, No Audio Devices Found - see attached screenshot.
I've reinstalled ROCK twice, I've reinstalled the SoTM firmware too, all with no improvement.
I've tried static IP address on both devices, I've tried non static on both devices, I've tried two different Ethernet cables, I've tried via Powerline adapter, I've tried direct connection to router, again the same result No Audio Devices Found.
Then after perhaps 40-60 seconds it finds the audio device ( the SoTM ) and playback can begin again.
As you can see from the screenshot my daughter's Sonos speaker shows up no problem so I'm thinking it might be the SoTM that's the issue?
It's doing my nut in lol
Any ideas?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180222/cdeae40813714afedf194a638764c76a.jpg
It's disconnected 5 or 6 times since I posted [emoji17]
Wait till it starts to mess around with your music library and do all sorts of weird stuff, it will drive you bonkers.
My mate could not wait to rip it out and use something else!
Yip this will be the 4th or 5th time I've had a trial of Roon, but it's the first time I've invested in the hardware for it, I'm about 5 minutes away from putting the NUC back up for sale and stick with Spotify Connect to the SoTM as that works flawlessly.
The bloody Pi setup I did myself with MoOde and Volumio worked perfectly for 2 years with hardly a glitch, the SoTM was fine until I tried Roon on it grrrrrr
Put it this way, there's no way Roon is going to be paid for at trials end unless it becomes Rock ( pardon the pun ) solid within the next couple of days
Yip this will be the 4th or 5th time I've had a trial of Roon, but it's the first time I've invested in the hardware for it, I'm about 5 minutes away from putting the NUC back up for sale and stick with Spotify Connect to the SoTM as that works flawlessly.
The bloody Pi setup I did myself with MoOde and Volumio worked perfectly for 2 years with hardly a glitch, the SoTM was fine until I tried Roon on it grrrrrr
Put it this way, there's no way Roon is going to be paid for at trials end unless it becomes Rock ( pardon the pun ) solid within the next couple of days
I know how you feel Mike, I went through all this with a mate and he got just a bit angry with it! I think some of the software upgrades really drove him bonkers!
I know how you feel Mike, I went through all this with a mate and he got just a bit angry with it! I think some of the software upgrades really drove him bonkers!Lol, it might just be the rant that's helped although I'm not wanting to tempt fate but I think I've solved it, the next few minutes will confirm it [emoji23]
I've a couple of suggestions, but if it's sorted jobs a good un' :)
Funnily enough it is, took me 30 seconds to fix once I saw the problem. Had me raging at it since last yesterday lol.
All good now though [emoji4]
Intrigued to know what the issue was?
And glad it's fixed.
Intrigued to know what the issue was?
And glad it's fixed.Lol I wondered when someone would ask.
The answer was IP addresses, for some odd reason the IP address of my SoTM changed by one digit when I had to reinstall the firmware, no idea why it had to be redone but anyway the IP address went from 127 at the end to 128. I never thought much of that until Roon started to play up and lose the SoTM connection every 1-3 minutes.
I only noticed the issue when I ran an app called Fing on my phone too check what devices were connected to my router, it was then that I noticed that my Amazon Fire TV box IP address also ended in 128?
So I then logged onto the SoTM setup page and gave it a static address ending in 123, and hey presto problem solved.
Stratmangler
23-02-2018, 22:00
Lol I wondered when someone would ask.
The answer was IP addresses, for some odd reason the IP address of my SoTM changed by one digit when I had to reinstall the firmware, no idea why it had to be redone but anyway the IP address went from 127 at the end to 128. I never thought much of that until Roon started to play up and lose the SoTM connection every 1-3 minutes.
I only noticed the issue when I ran an app called Fing on my phone too check what devices were connected to my router, it was then that I noticed that my Amazon Fire TV box IP address also ended in 128?
So I then logged onto the SoTM setup page and gave it a static address ending in 123, and hey presto problem solved.
Nice one Mikey!
It might be worth reserving the IP address on your router as well.
Nice one Mikey!
It might be worth reserving the IP address on your router as well.Ok thanks, never thought of that, I'll do that over the weekend [emoji4]
Good you got it sorted Mikey.
Roon’s awesome, well worth sticking with. :thumbsup:
Cant praise it highly enough, next stepchange better... and thats coming from a Squeezebox user from back in the Slimserver days.
I generally find it better to fix IP addresses on the router only so as to avoid IP address conflicts.
Yes Roon with Tidal makes for a winning combo. The 'Discover' feature is fabulous.
One thing I would love Roon to have is ability of connecting to Core externally. Something JRiver does with ease. Need to set up a personal VPN which is a bit of a faff.
Had a long chat with Steve Slberman at the Bristol Show (formerly AudioQuest and Ayre Acoustics) and now the new VP for Sales and Marketing at Roon, really nice guy.
Their new Roon Nucleus server is a pretty thing :)
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0810/1147/products/Nucleus_POS_grande.png?v=1508239233
A one stop shop for those not wanting to tinker/build with a NUC, as that's basically what it is a NUC in a nice case, running a Roon CORE with tweaked software. Loads of rooms running Roon and streaming from Tidal too, in fact hardly anyone at Bristol was playing CDs, all file based audio or vinyl.
https://darko.audio/2017/05/roon-announce-nucleus-server/
Well having trialled Roon for the 4th or 5th time, I still don’t get it and won’t be continuing after the trial ends this weekend, I just don’t see the value in it, I can do everything I want to do streaming wise with Spotify and search out my own stuff.
6 of my family use Spotify Premium for a total of £14.99 a month and comparing Roon/Tidal to Spotify there isn’t a whole lot in it. I also still have a feeling that Roon will be swallowed up by some other company and the lifetime subs will disappear.
I know many people really rate it, but me .... nah, I’d rather spend my cash elsewhere. I still have about 80 days of a Tidal trial to use but I can’t see me using that either.
Roon/Tidal works out at approx £27.50 per month for one user, Spotify is £14.99 for 6 users.
not tried roon. i just cant stick the tidal presentation. fortunately deezer is hifi too and much better so use that. i do like spotify but sonically deezer whips it:)
i do miss connect tho, and you really need the pc close to you and a cable out to your dac.
Roon has it's place if you want to use all it's features, as it is very feature rich with added benefits of Roon ROCK and all the Roon Ready equipment that supports it. The information on artists, who played on what album and where and advanced search functionality is also second to none . . . if that's your thing. However, if you just want to play things on Spotify and don't have a large lossless library/want to run headless servers etc., then it is expensive and you won't get your money's worth. So I totally get your point.
I do think however it is going to be the Amazon of the file based audio world and the market leader, but it's an expensive punt at $499 for a lifetime membership, if it does go down the pan! I personally think that won't happen though.
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