View Full Version : 70's vintage Japanese amplifiers and receivers.
gerlando
06-02-2018, 16:48
Marantz, Pioneer, Sony, Sansui, Luxman, Trio-Kenwood, Toshiba, JVC,
many of them are very good-looking with their silver finish and instrument lights,
but how they sound now? are they still reliable or it's just nostalgia?
Many thanks.
Mauro
http://www.classicaudio.com/value/mz/2225.jpg
Sabaselfsit
06-02-2018, 18:45
Most of it has excellent build quality and reliability. I recently bought a Hitachi HMA-8500 Mk II power amp that was produced in min 80s. Hitachi is a brand that is little bit overlooked, and the mosfet amps sound great.
Took it apart and gave it a good clean and checked all components and solder work. To my surprise I saw no trace that it had ever been repaired before since it was new.
I found only 4 caps that had low value, but that was it. So I replaced them and cleaned the speaker relay. Also upgraded the plastic speaker terminals to modern gold terminals so I can connect banana plugs to it.
And I changed the 4 meter bulbs for extra case. My pre amp is even older, it is from 1979 and still going strong. I swear to the old stuff and absolutely recommend people to buy the great vintage hifi still available out there. But it is wise even if it works when you buy to get it checked for possible faults lurking under the surface. Capacitors dry out over time, solder joints can dry out. Relays, pots and switches need cleaning after many years.
You missed out Yamaha....the CR 1020 and 2020 are IMHO the best sounding and best looking of the late ups recievers.
Sadly they have a Achilles heel, the preamp section runs very hot......check out any pics and you will notice blackening on the plastic silver venting front left.
Get these components checked over or replaced and they will last year's.
I tended to stay clear of the Sansui 8080/9090 series, although built for keeps with power to match the looks, they always sounded a bit muddy compared to vintage Yamaha kit.
Of course it's all a bit academic these days as the golden years of vintage picking are behind us.
I remember the 80s and 90s when secondhand hifi shops were plentiful and a complete system could be purchased for under 150 pounds.
The prices asked for even pretty mundane kit these days are almost laughable
RobbieGong
06-02-2018, 20:44
To answer your question and as the owner of a 1978/79 Sansui AU 919, it is a superb amplifier and it's reputation as such is well deserved.
I'd had numerous japanese vintage intergrated amps over many years but the 919 was by far the best in souce direct mode, no need for tone controls.
'Reliable' - a lot does depend on age with older gear, many untouched pieces will not be performing as new for a number of reasons , bias out, tired caps etc etc and to be expected 30 / 40 years on.
My 919 has been properly sorted, rebuilt, recapped etc etc and from first listen I got what the fuss was about :)
Sansui did a fair number of Intergrated amps and receivers that are still regarded today, some very highly regarded as did some of the other japanese marks but as I say one looked over by a good competent tech is very important / crucial otherwise evaluation / critical listening will be in my view flawed and inconclusive ;)
Yup, one of these,
http://i64.tinypic.com/hrbonm.jpg
Tank like build quality,
http://i68.tinypic.com/24ccp47.jpg
And and its older brother AU-999, all can be made to sound very good indeed with a few judicace modern component changes.
http://i63.tinypic.com/klu9t.jpg
Shovel_Knight
06-02-2018, 21:12
The prices asked for even pretty mundane kit these days are almost laughable
This is especially true for Marantz receivers: the prices are crazy because these receivers are very pretty and people lust after them. Alas, they look much better than they sound.
hornucopia
06-02-2018, 21:17
I see your Yamaha (very nice stuff from Piano makers!) and raise you.....https://www.2dehands.be/audio-video-tv/audio-apparatuur/versterker-en-receiver/pioneer-sx-1980-392204702.html
This is especially true for Marantz receivers: the prices are crazy because these receivers are very pretty and people lust after them. Alas, they look much better than they sound.
I wouldn't necessarily disagree with that but would say that some Vintage tuners can sound as good as they look,
http://i67.tinypic.com/2nui1w4.jpg
RobbieGong
06-02-2018, 22:42
I wouldn't necessarily disagree with that but would say that some Vintage tuners can sound as good as they look,
http://i67.tinypic.com/2nui1w4.jpg
Wow, not sure what model Sansui that is but I'd bet my left one it sounds as good as it looks knowing Sansui :)
Their TU-919 tuner is always in 'best ever' tuner lists
RobbieGong
07-02-2018, 17:32
TIS a TU-9900 Robbie
What a beaut'
walpurgis
07-02-2018, 19:50
Not seventies, but a good chunky Japanese amp all the same. Harman Kardon HK-6600.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HARMAN-KARDON-HK-6600-STEREO-AMPLIFIER-/132493656480?hash=item1ed93cc1a0
Yes, I know it's a US brand, but their solid state amps were made for them in Japan. Rather nice too.
jandl100
07-02-2018, 20:05
Top right of the AOS header banner photo montage -- my lovely vintage Marantz receiver and cassette deck.
Yep, I bought them for their looks not their warm and cuddly sound!
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