Bargain speaker cable

[Bigman80]

Hi all,

Ordered some of this a few days ago >
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F 152150015281

Had them plumbed in for about 12 hours and I'm very pleased. Nothing to complain about just very good sound.

Very good stuff.

[struth]

Looks similar to what Ive got

[Boyse6748]

It’s so strange.... I also ordered these very cables a couple of months ago. I thought they were a bargain and very good.

Then....... another AOS member said..... have you tried Blue Jeans Cable ( effectively Belden cable made to Blue Jeans specification.) Just Stunning at the same sort of price point + USA IMPORT DUTY...... which is a bummer.

Peter


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[karma67]

ive tried fisual cable twice,and twice it lasted about half an hour.
oli i beg you to try van damme's UP-LCOFC Hi-F i use the 4mm.

http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?37782-Van-Damme-Blue-v-Hifi-speaker-cable-reviewed

http://hifipig.com/van-damme-blue-and-hi-fi-grade-6-0mm-speaker-cables/#more-14566

[argyle]

Van Damme is excellent.

[steve-z]

Audioquest FLX SLiP 14/2 for single wired speakers, 14/4 for biwired, £3.50 & £5.80/m respectively, I use them both in my 2 setups and find them excellent.


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[struth]

Not sure the one I'm using now is fisual tbh. The last one was. One Ive got now I got the tip from Brian. It's very good and it's not going anywhere. Ever

[Boyse6748]

I’m certainly not going to get into a debate about speaker cable, as it’s a no, no.

I have 10k speakers and an even more expensive amp and ancillaries. Spent more on speaker cable than you can imagine £20 to £150 Meter. (And more).

At the end of the day, it’s what you like and what gives you the best sound to your ears.

Sorry all, but it’s what does it for you........ there ain’t no magic cable out there!!

Here endeth the Sermon.

Sorry in advance!!!


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[struth]

stuff im using is Fisual Super Pearl 2.5mm Speaker Cable

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fisual-Super-Pearl-2-5mm-Speaker-Cable-Black-Price-Per-Metre-/380445111502?hash=item58944bb4ce

this is black but same stuff

[Marco]

Hi all,

Ordered some of this a few days ago >
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F 152150015281

Had them plumbed in for about 12 hours and I'm very pleased. Nothing to complain about just very good sound.

Very good stuff.

They don't exactly 'oversell' it on the advert, do they? :D

Not so much of a bargain (although still sensible enough money), but if anyone's looking for a super-slim, discrete speaker cable, which can be hidden out of the way easily and sounds SUPERB, then I thoroughly recommend this stuff:

https://www.futureshop.co.uk/chord-sarsen-speaker-cable

I have it in my home-cinema system, which I also use for music duties, and it is really excellent.

Marco.

[struth]

I’m certainly not going to get into a debate about speaker cable, as it’s a no, no.

I have 10k speakers and an even more expensive amp and ancillaries. Spent more on speaker cable than you can imagine £20 to £150 Meter. (And more).

At the end of the day, it’s what you like and what gives you the best sound to your ears.

Sorry all, but it’s what does it for you........ there ain’t no magic cable out there!!

Here endeth the Sermon.

Sorry in advance!!!


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No harm in offering fairly cheap options to folk. Speaker cable is as important as speakers to get right but as you say price doesn't have to be key. It usually isnt

[Boyse6748]

Wise words indeed Grant. I genuinely believe the Blue Jeans cable being cold welded at the terminals does something? Plus, I don’t think Beldon make a bad cable. Regardless of the price point. But hay ho!! This debate will never end [emoji41]


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[Bigman80]

Not sure the one I'm using now is fisual tbh. The last one was. One Ive got now I got the tip from Brian. It's very good and it's not going anywhere. EverIt is Fisual, Grant just a different series.

I tried the fisual Hollywood ones and wasn't impressed. These are completely different. Very good indeed.

[Bigman80]

ive tried fisual cable twice,and twice it lasted about half an hour.
oli i beg you to try van damme's UP-LCOFC Hi-F i use the 4mm.

http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?37782-Van-Damme-Blue-v-Hifi-speaker-cable-reviewed

http://hifipig.com/van-damme-blue-and-hi-fi-grade-6-0mm-speaker-cables/#more-14566Ha ha Ha, I know we didn't get on with the Hollywood stuff but I am impressed with this stuff. I've never liked a cable Van Damme has made but I'll give it a go at some point.

[Boyse6748]

Ha ha Ha, I know we didn't get on with the Hollywood stuff but I am impressed with this stuff. I've never liked a cable Van Damme has made but I'll give it a go at some point.

Don’t do it Oliver!

It’s a road to nowhere!

Lol.


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[The Black Adder]

I use van Damme black 4mm but doubled up.. Sounds fantastic.

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[Bigman80]

Don’t do it Oliver!

It’s a road to nowhere!

Lol.


Sent from my iPad using TapatalkLol, I know mate, I'm in no rush. I'm really enjoying the Fisual.

[struth]

It is Fisual, Grant just a different series.

I tried the fisual Hollywood ones and wasn't impressed. These are completely different. Very good indeed.

Mine is a different fisual again. Lol

[Bigman80]

Mine is a different fisual again. Lol🤣🤣

[Bigman80]

Mine is a different fisual again. LolThe two separated strand type?

[Boyse6748]

At some time, I’m going to have to get rid of the ever increasing mountain of speaker cable I’ve accumulated....... sooo much money and sooo little enjoyment.


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[struth]

stuff im using is Fisual Super Pearl 2.5mm Speaker Cable

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fisual-Super-Pearl-2-5mm-Speaker-Cable-Black-Price-Per-Metre-/380445111502?hash=item58944bb4ce

this is black but same stuff

This stuff but in white

[Bigman80]

This stuff but in whiteYep, I thought that was the one.

The S-FLEX is very good. £20 for 7m !!!!!

[Boyse6748]

Is this the stuff your talking about?

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/454e95c33618e4aec27e74af7c4d82b7.jpg

Peter


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[struth]

Not mine

[Boyse6748]

This is Fisual S- 6mm, in a 15mm flexible jacket.


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[struth]

Mine is pearl

[Boyse6748]

A Ha. Yours is the shotgun version? 2.5mm conductors.? Yes. (Very low capacitance)


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[struth]

A Ha. Yours is the shotgun version? 2.5mm conductors.? Yes. (Very low capacitance)


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Yup. Split the 2 conductors apart completely as the cover is independent for each conductor

[karma67]

the last one i tried was Fisual Super Pearl 2.5mm

[Boyse6748]

Got there in the end [emoji736]


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[Bigman80]

This is Fisual S- 6mm, in a 15mm flexible jacket.


Sent from my iPad using TapatalkMine is the 4mm.

[Boyse6748]

Well..... I guess that’s the bargain speaker cable debate over (for tonight). That’s
why I just love this forum...... soooooo many differing views..... soooo many different ears.

God bless to you all.

Night night.


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[Bigman80]

Well..... I guess that’s the bargain speaker cable debate over (for tonight). That’s
why I just love this forum...... soooooo many differing views..... soooo many different ears.

God bless to you all.

Night night.


Sent from my iPad using TapatalkLol, it's good fun isn't it. [emoji23][emoji23]

[Boyse6748]

If only the Tenuto had done the business...... I would be happy until my last days on this planet!

Hay ho....... just not to be !!?,!? (Sorry, my last distraction of the evening).


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[walpurgis]

I use this. Best speaker cable I've heard in my system.

http://i64.tinypic.com/97poxg.jpg

[Bigman80]

I use this. Best speaker cable I've heard in my system.

http://i64.tinypic.com/97poxg.jpgNot heard of that, Geoff

[walpurgis]

Not heard of that, Geoff

Like gold dust mate. Only available second hand now. I bought the last known UK new stock. Really worth looking out for.

[Boyse6748]

I do believe I have some of this in my back room (from days of old) . This is music Cord .... yes !


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[walpurgis]

I do believe I have some of this in my back room (from days of old) . This is music Cord .... yes !

Superb sounding cable. Doesn't look like much but gets everything right.

[Boyse6748]

Perhaps worth a reconnection via the McIntosh and the Revolvers..... I’ll try tomorrow. Not used this cable for some years... can’t really remember if it was good or not so good.


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[walpurgis]

It sounds wonderful with my big Tannoys and other speakers, regardless of amplification. I got rid of numerous fancy cables after trying this. It took me a while to track down a second set (one shortish and the other longer).

[Bigman80]

Eyes are peeled

[Barry]

ive tried fisual cable twice,and twice it lasted about half an hour.
oli i beg you to try van damme's UP-LCOFC Hi-F i use the 4mm.

http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?37782-Van-Damme-Blue-v-Hifi-speaker-cable-reviewed

http://hifipig.com/van-damme-blue-and-hi-fi-grade-6-0mm-speaker-cables/#more-14566


Interesting review concerning the Van Damme cables. I have two sets (both 1 metre long) of similar cables, they are:

Van Damme, marked: Van damme LC-OFC LOUDSPEAKER 268-504-000 2x4.0mm sq. – TOTAL DEFINITION DIRECTIONAL HIFI

This is a ‘figure of eight’ style cable with 4mm OD conductors comprising many strands twisted into several bunches, and the bunches themselves twisted together. The insulation is clear with the cable identity printed onto the centre strip separating the two conductors. The overall width of the cable is 14mm.

http://www.van-damme.com/25.html


Van Damme: marked: Van damme 268-545-000 BLACK SERIES CONCERT GRADE UPOFC CLASSIC PRO LOUDSPEAKER 2x4.0mm TWIN-AXIAL

Two conductors having 4mm OD insulation coloured red and blue, with an overall black sheath 13mm OD.

The closest I can find on the Van Damme web site is this http://www.van-damme.com/23.html, but mine are marked as above and not BLUE SERIES STUDIO GRADE.


Both of these cables are slightly different to those reviewed. Is anyone else using them? Are they any good – what are your thoughts? Have to confess I can’t hear any difference between them, but they are only 1 metre long.

[The Black Adder]

Hi Barry.

I use two lengths of 4mm black per speaker and twisted together. Sound is superb... It was Mark Grant who suggested twisting them.

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[Yomanze]

Van Damme HiFi is one the great bargains in HiFi. I never got on with speaker cable with thick PVC sleeving, and also do think in a good system, the benefits of “linear crystal” copper are worth it.

[wee tee cee]

I used a dark green jacketed fisual cable for about 9 months with 57s.

Its silver plated copper with rfi shielding....very detailed with nice tight bass-maybe the bright side of neutral so suited the 57s, great vfm.

I bought 30m of the 4mm fisual studio stuff-didnt get on with it at all....lasted a couple of days.

I really think speaker cable really depends on synergy with the amp and speaker-ye pays yer money but its nice to have a play without breaking the bank.

Gave my mates son a wee hi fi to get started a mini 1 t amp/dac and tannoy floor standers-van damme 4mm hifi stuff terminated by Brian of this parish really worked well with it.

[Bigman80]

I'm very impressed with the Fisual 4mm S-FLEX I have here. My Ixos cable will be for sale later today.

[jandl100]

Bargain - well, probably above the price that many folks would regard as a bargain for a cable.
But I was deeply impressed by the low key approach of the advertising description. :)

W&M (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audiophile-High-End-Speaker-Cable-Chord-SPECIALIST-EXTREME-HIGH-END-AMAZING/251276797309?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649) speaker cables from The Netherlands.
It's very good in a full frontal, don't take no prisoners kind of way.

For a more laidback synergy, I also have some vintage Western Electric (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3m-western-electric-16GA-vintage-speaker-cable-Ls-3-5a-tannoy-harbeth-proac-/332038683680?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=eHrXPNFeEu%252Bg8ko0pqYxt5BmiHw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc) cables. Allegedly removed from a telephone exchange and then done up as speaker cables. :eyebrows:

I've tried other cables, cheap and not so cheap, but those two are just fine for me.

[Svend N]

I've been using a star-quad Belden (#5102UP) for the past year, and am very happy with it. Great clarity and transparency, quite neutral sounding. The tell-tale for me is that every subtle change I make to the electronics and source components, is immediately noticeable through the speakers.

It's wired so that opposing conductors are joined at each end, effectively making an 11 AWG out of two 14 AWG conductors. This configuration is supposed to have great noise rejection ability. You could use this cable for bi-wiring too, if that's your thing.

Belden also has an OFC version of this cable, #1310A, which I probably would have sprung for had I known it existed when I wired up mine. The #5102 is ETP copper, whatever that means, presumably a lower grade, but whether audibly inferior(?)...I'm not sure...

Further, they also make versions of this cable in 16 and 12 AWG using either ETP or OFC copper. Lots of choice. Very reasonable pricing for some great cable.

Best,
Svend