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Bigbird
10-01-2018, 08:50
Hi guys,
im looking to get a Roksan Nima as the final piece of the puzzle to my newly built LP12.
Im aware there is a mark 1 and 2 version but is there anyway to tell.
iv found a guy selling one but he's not sure on which one it is, only that he bought it in 2016 (which leads me to think mk2) and he also said it has the opaque head shell and pivot ,and not the clear.
Is there a difference between the two types of headshells. Ivc searched online but can't find any details.
Aesthetically I would prefer the look of the clear from the photos iv found but not if its a lesser arm?
Any opinions would be great
Thanks
Karl

WESTLOWER
10-01-2018, 09:24
If he purchased it New in 2016 it's a MK2.
I think you'd struggle to find a MK1 even if you wanted one!

They are very nice Unipivots and will reward you with great music.
I replaced mine with the Naim Aro, which whilst was an improvement, was not night and day. Certainly not 3x the cost anyhow.

I'd also advise you to get the Tiger Paw SKale Heavy Counter weight, which significantly improved the performance, allowing the counter weight to sit
right up closer to the cup. It's a cost effective 'upgrade' that gives you more sweetness from an already cracking tonearm.

DiveDeepDog
10-01-2018, 09:27
The opaque is indeed the Mk2, there's very little difference sonically, the Mk2 (from memory) has a few extra grub screws holing it together rather than relying on glued joints, there's also provision for transit bolt which I can't remember on the Mk1.

FWIW I prefered Tabriz both sonically and as a user, wobbly arms don't belong on bouncy decks :gig:

Bigbird
10-01-2018, 09:46
Thanks for the reply mate.
Do you know if the mk2 is available in a clear head shell or not?
iv already looked into the scale thanks and its defo on the radar when funds allow. Im also going to get the upgrade cable which iv heard makes a fair difference?

Bigbird
10-01-2018, 09:50
Ok great thanks for getting in touch.
I did look at the tabriz but im on a tight budget, hence buying used.
Was there a reason they used clear and opaque or is it just for personal choice ?
is the clear available on the mk2?

DiveDeepDog
10-01-2018, 10:50
Re: clear/frosted I'd guess at just cosmetic and stands up to repeated cart swaps better?

I'm a fan of Roksan arms, still got 3 here, IMO Tabriz is often overlooked and cheaper than Nima.

Jokes about wobbly deck aside, construction of the Mk2 will be better.

I'd recommend Van Damme arm cable off eBay, the basic (Jelco?) isn't great, and the HD cable I've got with Artemiz is VD.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Van-Damme-Tonearm-cable-Twisted-pair-Ultra-Pure-Silver-plated-OFC-copper/322428195987?hash=item4b1237d493:g:rwIAAOSwWxNYqXW b

WESTLOWER
10-01-2018, 10:59
wobbly arms don't belong on bouncy decks
I personally have never had a problem with a unipivot on a suspension deck..

walpurgis
10-01-2018, 11:25
I personally have never had a problem with a unipivot on a suspension deck..

Using an original heavy Decca International arm on a TD150 was 'fun'. It sure wobbled.

DiveDeepDog
10-01-2018, 11:42
I personally have never had a problem with a unipivot on a suspension deck..

Give it a few months with your Garrard, then go back to LP12/Aro, you'll understand me :sofa:

WESTLOWER
10-01-2018, 11:48
you could be right, although 12 inches of SME with a ruddy great SPU takes some getting used to as well!
The devil in me wants to take he Aro off the LP12 and stick it on the 401 as a second arm...
not sure i will though, maybe just keep an eye out for a decent 9" arm in the classifieds.

DiveDeepDog
10-01-2018, 11:58
you could be right, although 12 inches of SME with a ruddy great SPU takes some getting used to as well!
The devil in me wants to take he Aro off the LP12 and stick it on the 401 as a second arm...
not sure i will though, maybe just keep an eye out for a decent 9" arm in the classifieds.

You know it makes sense

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4503/38010672432_176b39792e_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ZUSCDf)IMG_3962 (https://flic.kr/p/ZUSCDf) by mark leatherland (https://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/), on Flickr

WESTLOWER
10-01-2018, 12:24
Thats ...interesting, you obviously like the combo?
Have you compared it to other Tonearms?

It's in stark contrast to what some on AoS advocate.

Beobloke
10-01-2018, 12:52
If I remember rightly, the easiest way to tell the difference between a Mk.1 Nima and a Mk.2 is to look at the armtube. On a Mk.1 this is circular in cross section, on a Mk.2 it is octagonal.

DiveDeepDog
10-01-2018, 14:44
Sorry to the op, off at a tangent...


Thats ...interesting, you obviously like the combo?
Have you compared it to other Tonearms?

It's in stark contrast to what some on AoS advocate.

I like uni's on idlers (and DD's) they compliment each other, softening the one trick pony some say Garrard's are, the Aro is possibly the best I've had access to, more time with Moerch DP6 may have changed that.

Against popularity I sold 2 Nima's for Tabriz's, had them J7 rewired and really like them, my choice for Decca SG.

Sold a Hadcock when the Aro arrived, much closer than the Nima in performance but fiddle to set up.
My current favourite arm is Artemiz, J7 silver rewired. Its ruthless, fast and direct like a decca.

Somewhere in the mix is Audiomods V, and freshly arrived PU3.

I'd like to try new SME, didn't like the old 'un and GB Tools offerings are always in the eBay search...

Bigbird
12-01-2018, 05:06
Thanks for all the replies guys I now know what to look out for, and if anybody knows of any going for a reasonable price then please let me know.
chers
karl