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Monty
13-12-2017, 17:21
I bought a pair on here not so long back, but haven't got round to using them.

I'm getting a bit hard of hearing so time to sell them.

Think I paid Ł45 + posting, so will ask the same.
http://oi65.tinypic.com/30cswlz.jpg
http://oi68.tinypic.com/2ah85y9.jpg

Edward
13-12-2017, 19:25
Paul. You got these from Tom back in June (http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?52398-FS-Pair-of-Batpure-Supertweeters&highlight=Batpure). Are you also including the speaker posts, wires and boxes that Tom seemingly included as well?

If so I will have the lot. :)

PM me if interested.

Edward
14-12-2017, 11:29
All now paid for. Thanks Paul for the easy sale.

Looking forward to experimenting.

Lawrence001
14-12-2017, 18:41
And I'm looking forward to hearing their contribution (or lack of!) Been wanting to try them for years.

montesquieu
14-12-2017, 19:35
And I'm looking forward to hearing their contribution (or lack of!) Been wanting to try them for years.

Drop round sometime ...

Lawrence001
14-12-2017, 19:42
I'd love too, that would also give me the opportunity to hear some Canterbury's! Unfortunately not driving and being mainly responsible for 2 darling children means a trip out for the day is a major logistical exercise for me!

Edward
14-12-2017, 20:21
So my plan with these super-tweeters is to rig up something simple and quick and see how they perform. If they are all they cracked up to be I will follow a cunning plan someone suggested in terms of cabinets etc.

WESTLOWER
15-12-2017, 10:27
:popcorn:

Edward
16-12-2017, 17:36
Thanks Paul for the Batpure tweeters which arrived this morning. Nicely packed.

Rather than messing around with a suitable casing etc I used my old favourite BluTac and some wire hanging around. Ten minutes later they were up and running.

Only temporary mind you.

Initial impression? Not a big difference, probably a subtle change. Now the following may well be expectation bias creeping in but I would say that SQ gains some added clarity and focus. Imaging just that bit more accurate. Sound feels like it has come forward a tad.

I will run as is for a few days and then remove and see if change again detected.

By the way why are the neighbours suddenly complaining about their cats and dogs howling? [emoji3]

http://imapnet.com/aos/batpure.JPG

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montesquieu
16-12-2017, 18:14
Thanks Paul for the Batpure tweeters which arrived this morning. Nicely packed.

Rather than messing around with a suitable casing etc I used my old favourite BluTac and some wire hanging around. Ten minutes later they were up and running.

Only temporary mind you.

Initial impression? Not a big difference, probably a subtle change. Now the following may well be expectation bias creeping in but I would say that SQ gains some added clarity and focus. Imaging just that bit more accurate. Sound feels like it has come forward a tad.

I will run as is for a few days and then remove and see if change again detected.

By the way why are the neighbours suddenly complaining about their cats and dogs howling? [emoji3]

http://imapnet.com/aos/batpure.JPG

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The advice I got (FWIW and I don't know if there's any science to it) was to use very thin wire. This looks quite thick.

Edward
16-12-2017, 18:22
The advice I got (FWIW and I don't know if there's any science to it) was to use very thin wire. This looks quite thick.

Yes indeed I did read that somewhere as well. That is my next step. Now where is the bell wire I have? :eyebrows:

Actually I may strip some ethernet cable and use a few strands of that.

Tom, how would you describe the SQ change when you first used your supertweeters?

montesquieu
16-12-2017, 18:24
Yes indeed I did read that somewhere as well. That is my next step. Now where is the bell wire I have? :eyebrows:

Actually I may strip some ethernet cable and use a few strands of that.

Tom, how would you describe the SQ change when you first used your supertweeters?

Just as you described, it's subtle. I wasn't sure at all whether I was hearing anything but there was a perceptible smoothness in the upper registers and a slightly more easy feel - hard to describe. The real test came after a week or so and I took them out - preferred them in so in they stayed.

The Black Adder
17-12-2017, 15:55
I'd love to try some of these too... Might put a wanted ad up.

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brian2957
17-12-2017, 16:03
Try and buy from a UK seller Josie . I had to pay customs ( and Royal Mail ) a total of Ł15 for the last set I bought :steam:

Edward
17-12-2017, 19:03
So despite grand plans to build state of the art cabinets for these little supertweeters and a PM recommendation for a unique solution I've ordered bog standard wooden pencil cases to house this. The size (20cm x 6cm x 4cm) is perfect to fit on top of the speakers. So judicious use of a stanley knife, low speed drill, solder, thin wire, furniture protectors etc I will be done. Why go high when you can go low (cost). :lol:

So if I detect lots of resonance I can fill the case with - um - lead pencils.

montesquieu
17-12-2017, 19:22
So despite grand plans to build state of the art cabinets for these little supertweeters and a PM recommendation for a unique solution I've ordered bog standard wooden pencil cases to house this. The size (20cm x 6cm x 4cm) is perfect to fit on top of the speakers. So judicious use of a stanley knife, low speed drill, solder, thin wire, furniture protectors etc I will be done. Why go high when you can go low (cost). :lol:

So if I detect lots of resonance I can fill the case with - um - lead pencils.

:worthless:

[edit - oops, when they arrive that is]

Wakefield Turntables
17-12-2017, 19:34
So despite grand plans to build state of the art cabinets for these little supertweeters and a PM recommendation for a unique solution I've ordered bog standard wooden pencil cases to house this. The size (20cm x 6cm x 4cm) is perfect to fit on top of the speakers. So judicious use of a stanley knife, low speed drill, solder, thin wire, furniture protectors etc I will be done. Why go high when you can go low (cost). :lol:

So if I detect lots of resonance I can fill the case with - um - lead pencils.

Sounds like exactly the same idea I had when I mounted mine on my Tannoys. Total project time, about 15 minutes! :lol:

Edward
17-12-2017, 20:16
:worthless:

[edit - oops, when they arrive that is]


Just for you then Tom here is what I will be getting.

Observe the fine wood grain and solid build - all will, I'm perfectly sure, add dramatically to the SQ. :cool:

http://imapnet.com/aos/pencilcase.JPG

walpurgis
17-12-2017, 20:19
Ah. A pencil box? :)

Edward
17-12-2017, 20:25
Ah. A pencil box? :)

Yup. Together with a metre each of red and black quality wire - total investment of less than Ł7.50 for the cabs. Every expense spared.

walpurgis
17-12-2017, 20:33
:lolsign:

montesquieu
18-12-2017, 20:43
Well these finally arrived today after probably a week of sitting in the local delivery office ... stuck them in tonight and I don't know whether it's just because I'm in a good mood, but I rather like what they are doing doubled up with my existing ones. I'll do my usual and just play them for a while, then a week or so down the line take them out and compare.

Edward
18-12-2017, 20:46
Well these finally arrived today after probably a week of sitting in the local delivery office ... stuck them in tonight and I don't know whether it's just because I'm in a good mood, but I rather like what they are doing doubled up with my existing ones. I'll do my usual and just play them for a while, then a week or so down the line take them out and compare.

How have you wired these extra set up Tom? I'm guessing in parallel.

walpurgis
18-12-2017, 21:16
As the impedance is extremely high and the sensitivity low, it makes sense to connect in parallel. Several pairs won't hurt at all.

montesquieu
18-12-2017, 21:19
How have you wired these extra set up Tom? I'm guessing in parallel.

Yup parallel.

Edward
19-12-2017, 22:59
So my high grade pure wood supertweeter cabinets are now complete together with straight through wiring. Dedicated custom build. Unique. :drool:

http://imapnet.com/aos/batpure_pic_complete_front.jpg


http://imapnet.com/aos/batpure_pic_complete_back.jpg

:cool:

walpurgis
19-12-2017, 23:04
Exquisite! :D

montesquieu
19-12-2017, 23:05
So my high grade pure wood supertweeter cabinets are now complete together with straight through wiring. Dedicated custom build. Unique. :drool:

http://imapnet.com/aos/batpure_pic_complete_front.jpg


http://imapnet.com/aos/batpure_pic_complete_back.jpg

:cool:

Almost up to my standard Edward!

Edward
19-12-2017, 23:12
So whaddya guys think - custom paint job or vinyl wrap now?

I hope it is not just my imagination (expectation bias) but there is an element of smoothness whilst also being a tad more detailed that these Batpure things give. More air if you will.

Currently being driven with one of Duncan's (Tubehunter) class d amps which is itself smooth and wide.

walpurgis
19-12-2017, 23:13
You have one big benefit from a long box. It is unlikely to fall off the front. :)

walpurgis
19-12-2017, 23:16
So whaddya guys think - custom paint job or vinyl wrap now?

Stain/lacqeur them with button polish, it'll make them near the colour of your main speaker cabinets.

Edward
19-12-2017, 23:27
Stain/lacqeur them with button polish, it'll make them near the colour of your main speaker cabinets.

:cheers:

CageyH
20-12-2017, 08:56
You guys really are going to extreme lengths to fit these.
I will post a picture of my installation and you will that in comparison, your expensive mountings probably don’t give massive benefits.


;)

CageyH
20-12-2017, 09:02
My attachment device:
22224

Mounted on top of my speakers:
22225

In the final position:
22226

Edward
20-12-2017, 09:30
size matters - mine are bigger (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00EZMGN6E) - so there. :ner: :)

What is your attachment device by the way?

Lawrence001
20-12-2017, 10:07
size matters - mine are bigger (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00EZMGN6E) - so there. :ner: :)

What is your attachment device by the way?
Yes it looks like a neat solution. Packaging from a box maybe?

walpurgis
20-12-2017, 10:18
Looks like a corner brace to me. Try B&Q.

WESTLOWER
20-12-2017, 10:28
So whaddya guys think - custom paint job or vinyl wrap now?

I hope it is not just my imagination (expectation bias) but there is an element of smoothness whilst also being a tad more detailed that these Batpure things give. More air if you will.

Currently being driven with one of Duncan's (Tubehunter) class d amps which is itself smooth and wide.

I built an oxo cube dispenser in woodwork for my mum, it looks like your tweeter box, she still has it.

Edward
20-12-2017, 11:41
Next time I'm over Adam I'll bring the pencil case tweeters. Interesting to hear them with your Tannoys and amp.

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anubisgrau
20-12-2017, 11:58
OK now you should all proceed to the next step: Soundstage Activator

http://www.taket.jp/sa_u/sa(u).html

WESTLOWER
20-12-2017, 12:28
Next time I'm over Adam I'll bring the pencil case tweeters. Interesting to hear them with your Tannoys and amp.

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How interesting Edward, would love to hear them. Will the frequency disturb all the hounds in the area?

Edward
20-12-2017, 12:36
OK now you should all proceed to the next step: Soundstage Activator

http://www.taket.jp/sa_u/sa(u).html

interesting!

Hopefully Taket are following this thread so if they wish to send me a unit I will be happy to review it. :)

Edward
20-12-2017, 12:37
How interesting Edward, would love to hear them. Will the frequency disturb all the hounds in the area?

Cats as well.

anubisgrau
20-12-2017, 13:01
isn't this just a plain piezzo tweeter you can buy for a few bucks?

CageyH
20-12-2017, 19:19
size matters - mine are bigger (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00EZMGN6E) - so there. :ner: :)

What is your attachment device by the way?


Yes it looks like a neat solution. Packaging from a box maybe?


Looks like a corner brace to me. Try B&Q.

Geoff has nailed it.

montesquieu
20-12-2017, 19:46
OK now you should all proceed to the next step: Soundstage Activator

http://www.taket.jp/sa_u/sa(u).html

Just like a Shindo preamp then?

anubisgrau
20-12-2017, 20:29
Just like a Shindo preamp then?

could be but i have no shindo manual to compare:

Feature;
1. This set is for exclusive unbalance type of amplifier. It mixs the signal of L an R channels faintly by connecting both output + terminals of amplifier.
2. You can control the soundstage by rotate the switch on the front panel.
OFF( no connection ) -> STEREO -> Linear control -> MONO(wide center in stereo soundstage)

note 1; MONO is not real monaural. and the parts of sound keep thire same point on stereo soundstage.

montesquieu
20-12-2017, 20:40
could be but i have no shindo manual to compare:

Feature;
1. This set is for exclusive unbalance type of amplifier. It mixs the signal of L an R channels faintly by connecting both output + terminals of amplifier.
2. You can control the soundstage by rotate the switch on the front panel.
OFF( no connection ) -> STEREO -> Linear control -> MONO(wide center in stereo soundstage)

note 1; MONO is not real monaural. and the parts of sound keep thire same point on stereo soundstage.

The reason I say was that one Shindo pre I borrowed sounded like it was double-mono, lush sound but sound stage shrunken down -with a 'wide centre' as described in the quote.

Edward
20-12-2017, 21:14
Within JRiver's DSP engine there is a function that does similar of mixing channels etc. Will give it a play.

Meantime I managed to grab some listening time with the Batpure thingamajigs - I'm getting increased clarity in micro details, more 'air' and 'sparkle' across the range. Attack and decay seems just that more 'natural'.

What I'm not getting is 'why?'. It just seems non sense.

montesquieu
20-12-2017, 21:21
Within JRiver's DSP engine there is a function that does similar of mixing channels etc. Will give it a play.

Meantime I managed to grab some listening time with the Batpure thingamajigs - I'm getting increased clarity in micro details, more 'air' and 'sparkle' across the range. Attack and decay seems just that more 'natural'.

What I'm not getting is 'why?'. It just seems non sense.


Baffles me too. Supposed to be way lower sensitivity than my HPD315a's. But they have an effect.