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Along with the new 4K Oppo, sorted for movies and AV. :thumbsup:
Had a 4K itch for a while after seeing the improvement, wanted to do it once and that's it done.
Putting it up on wall this week as I'm off work.
Still enjoy a bit of PC gaming, have an Nvidia Shield TV box network streaming the PC to the big telly in 4K...who needs an Xbox for gaming?
Need to get the troops over in the New Year, a fair few changes since last time.
Ali Tait
05-12-2017, 14:06
Nice Gaz.
Very nice , although I have an OPPO 4k my current TV isn't old enough to warrant a change so I'll have to wait till I view some 4K movies.
Just looking at that TV in John Lewis. It is stunning and makes most LCD TVs look ordinary. OLED is definitely the way to go from what I saw. The Sony OLED also had great sound with some interesting panel technology ?
Is this the 55 inch Gary?
Haselsh1
05-12-2017, 14:38
Well he does have a full sack and only comes once a year Ho Ho Ho
:eyebrows:
Its the 65 James.
Yeah, Sony call it their “Acoustic Surface” technology?
No speakers on the telly, there is a bar running along the back with 2 pairs of vibrating actuators which vibrate the glass panel itself to produce the sound.
The screen IS the speaker.
A subwoofer in the stand/wallmount at the back takes care of the bass.
No effect on picture stability as sounds are high frequency and the Sony men in white lab coats say theres no impact on lifetime of the panel.
Heard it LOUD in John Lewis, very clear, pinpoint placement and deep tight bass.
Works by magic I think, really cool stuff.
Well he does have a full sack and only comes once a year Ho Ho Ho
:eyebrows:
Me or Santa? :eyebrows:
Its the 65 James.
Yeah, Sony call it their “Acoustic Surface” technology?
No speakers on the telly, there is a bar running along the back with 2 pairs of vibrating actuators which vibrate the glass panel itself to produce the sound.
The screen IS the speaker.
A subwoofer in the stand/wallmount at the back takes care of the bass.
No effect on picture stability as sounds are high frequency and the Sony men in white lab coats say theres no impact on lifetime of the panel.
Heard it LOUD in John Lewis, very clear, pinpoint placement and deep tight bass.
Works by magic I think, really cool stuff.
With 4K material that really is going to be an awesome xmas present. Enjoy!
Ali Tait
05-12-2017, 17:24
Have to come over for a movie night Gaz. :-)
sure thats big enough mate :D
brian2957
05-12-2017, 17:42
Very nice mate . I'll try and get over before Crimbo for a viewing :)
Have to come over for a movie night Gaz. :-)
Absolutely...
6 pack entrance fee...naturally. :eek:
Free weekend when it suits the Troops
Very nice mate . I'll try and get over before Crimbo for a viewing :)
:thumbsup:
That includes you too Grant!
This might interest you [emoji6]
Blue Planet II comes to iPlayer in 4K HDR - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42225220
Firebottle
06-12-2017, 12:26
6 pack entrance fee...naturally. :eek:
I'll get down the gym, might be a bit short notice though :doh:
brian2957
06-12-2017, 14:00
I'll get down the gym, might be a bit short notice though :doh:
No....A Scottish 6 pack mate :ner:l
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Ali Tait
06-12-2017, 14:54
Absolutely...
6 pack entrance fee...naturally. :eek:
Free weekend when it suits the Troops
Done!
brian2957
06-12-2017, 16:23
Who's cooking:D
Looks fab, Gaz! IMO, Sony, when they get it right, make the best TVs by a country mile - *if* natural looking colours and visual realism are most important to you [count me in] :)
Enjoy, although do you not play the sound for movies through your system? As good as the TV itself will be, that's bound to pale in comparison with how it would sound through your main speakers! ;)
Marco.
Looks fab, Gaz! IMO, Sony, when they get it right, make the best TVs by a country mile - *if* natural looking colours and visual realism are most important to you [count me in] :)
Enjoy, although do you not play the sound for movies through your system? As good as the TV itself will be, that's bound to pale in comparison with how it would sound through your main speakers! ;)
Marco.
Marco **Warning** do not have a look at one of these OLED Sony TVs. You will want to chuck yours straight in the skip!:lol:
If the sound comes off the actual tv screen don't you need 2 tellys for stereo? ;)
65 incher, that's the key. When getting a new telly it must always be bigger than the old one. It's the rules.
Iwent from 50 to 55. Was going to get the 65 but I chickened out. Gaz clearly made of sterner stuff.
If the sound comes off the actual tv screen don't you need 2 tellys for stereo? ;)
65 incher, that's the key. When getting a new telly it must always be bigger than the old one. It's the rules.
Iwent from 50 to 55. Was going to get the 65 but I chickened out. Gaz clearly made of sterner stuff.
If you have the 65 inches just stick your head dead centre and you'll get stereo!:)
Just a thought...65 inches may not be big enough for some! I think they do a 75 incher!
walpurgis
06-12-2017, 18:11
If the sound comes off the actual tv screen don't you need 2 tellys for stereo? ;)
I don't know, but I'd imagine there are rows of transducers of some sort energising/moving the screen surface, working rather like an isodynamic speaker. If so these could be arranged in 'left' and 'right' configurations. I wonder if an oscillating screen surface would produce any detectable doppler effects in the viewed image. Light wavelengths are probably too small I expect.
The Sony website shows you how the sound works by vibrating the screen but as it is so high frequency no visual impairment is discernible.
There is a left and right configuration for stereo.
Marco **Warning** do not have a look at one of these OLED Sony TVs. You will want to chuck yours straight in the skip!:lol:
Lol.... I'm quite happy with my HDR-ready LCD.
In terms of the sound factor though, if you want to do home-cinema right, and give that lovely Sony TV the 'supporting cast' it deserves, then you'll need a top-notch AV amp, with subs, centre and surround sound speakers to match.
The Eddies would 'just about do', as fronts! :D:eek:;)
Marco.
I also cannot get as worked up about picture as I do about sound.
I think I would end up hooking it up to a proper amp and some big speakers instead. I though Gaz had his previous set up running through his Edingdales?
I'm not sure what his set-up is, in that respect. However, experience tells me that to do home-cinema right, soundwise, you need a dedicated amp (and the right supporting speakers).
I get "worked up", in that way, with anything I own that needs optimising! ;)
And if you're into movies, then picture quality is every bit as important as sound quality.
Marco.
I have seen Gaz's TV with 4K material and it certainly the best picture I have ever seen. Like going from CRT to 1080p HD flatscreen. The OLED technology is simply stunning. Screens manufactured by LG and also used by Panasonic but I think the Sony implementation is the best.
Yup, as ever, it's all in the implementation :)
Marco.
Looks fab, Gaz! IMO, Sony, when they get it right, make the best TVs by a country mile - *if* natural looking colours and visual realism are most important to you [count me in] :)
Enjoy, although do you not play the sound for movies through your system? As good as the TV itself will be, that's bound to pale in comparison with how it would sound through your main speakers! ;)
Marco.
Thanks Marco, as huge white boxes go its pretty cool. :D
Putting it in the wall tonight mate, bit of heft so need to wait for Son m’Lad to finish work.
Sound system for watching movies..absolutely....through the main system.
Oppo 203 digital out > Young Dac > Densen Pre > 8 Watts of Nick’s SET magic> Eddingdales.
Cant get it past 10 o’clock on the volume pot, things get a bit seismic after that.
The new Oppo player sounds significantly better via digital out than their previous players too, much faster processor and improved AV circuitry apparently.
The TVs sound system is perfect for low level late evening listening, but Movie night it gets cranked up.
Sound from the Sony itself is a bit special for a TV, heard Sony’s audio demo in store and the biggest wow factor (aside the sound quality itself) is how the audio system places sounds to match exactly where they should be on the screen?
Two pairs of vibrating actuators vibrate the panel...as James says, left and right for stereo, to place audio exactly to where its happening on the screen.
Voices seem to come directly from wherever the person is on the screen and ambient effects come in from way outside the TVs boundary.
Its genuinely next level stuff, an effect that really draws you in to what your watching.
Will absolutely be good enough, but still cranking it up through the Eddies for movie night.
Sony do a 77” version...Lottery winners need only apply and besides, I enjoy having two kidneys too much to even think about it. (A bargain at 20 Grand)
I always said 60” Oled 4K would be the stepping off for me AV wise, short of a lottery win.
Coming from a “plenty big enough” 60 plasma the size wont be night and day bigger, but picture quality will be night and day better.
Too many compromises with projectors for me, so another box ticked I think. :thumbsup:
Great ‘real world’ review here:
https://youtu.be/rNfKDjQkd-o
Sounds very much like NXT to me. Looked very promising in the late 90’s but then disappeared.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_mode_loudspeaker
Thanks Marco, as huge white boxes go its pretty cool. :D
Putting it in the wall tonight mate, bit of heft so need to wait for Son m’Lad to finish work.
Sound system for watching movies..absolutely....through the main system.
Oppo 203 digital out > Young Dac > Densen Pre > 8 Watts of Nick’s SET magic> Eddingdales.
Cant get it past 10 o’clock on the volume pot, things get a bit seismic after that.
The new Oppo player sounds significantly better via digital out than their previous players too, much faster processor and improved AV circuitry apparently.
The TVs sound system is perfect for low level late evening listening, but Movie night it gets cranked up.
Sound from the Sony itself is a bit special for a TV, heard Sony’s audio demo in store and the biggest wow factor (aside the sound quality itself) is how the audio system places sounds to match exactly where they should be on the screen?
Two pairs of vibrating actuators vibrate the panel...as James says, left and right for stereo, to place audio exactly to where its happening on the screen.
Voices seem to come directly from wherever the person is on the screen and ambient effects come in from way outside the TVs boundary.
Its genuinely next level stuff, an effect that really draws you in to what your watching.
Will absolutely be good enough, but still cranking it up through the Eddies for movie night.
Sony do a 77” version...Lottery winners need only apply and besides, I enjoy having two kidneys too much to even think about it. (A bargain at 20 Grand)
I always said 60” Oled 4K would be the stepping off for me AV wise, short of a lottery win.
Coming from a “plenty big enough” 60 plasma the size wont be night and day bigger, but picture quality will be night and day better.
Too many compromises with projectors for me, so another box ticked I think. :thumbsup:
Great ‘real world’ review here:
https://youtu.be/rNfKDjQkd-o
Nice one, mate. Pity though you can't connect up a centre speaker and some rears [especially the rears], as they do make a difference to the whole 'movie experience'. Maybe at some point a dedicated AV amp, to facilitate that, would be cool addition? :)
I'll check out that video in a mo' :cool:
Marco.
walpurgis
07-12-2017, 09:43
Sounds very much like NXT to me. Looked very promising in the late 90’s but then disappeared
Yes I agree.
I'm still using my TDK NXT multimedia speakers with my PC. Very effective.
Used to run a 5.1 AV setup Marco, so I hear what your saying on decent seperate AV kit.
But like hifi being about the music, it all went back to the enjoyment of the movie rather than the kit for me, if that makes sense?
Hit that point where box fatigue set in I think!
My 2.0 system got to the point where it made a noise watching movies that reminded me of what I heard at the Cinema, including effects steering going over your head and all that good stuff.
It became ‘good enough’ at that point I guesss, with the Eddingdales and other recent changes in play even more so.
AV audio done for me, I just needed to max out the visual side of it, hence going 4K with the telly and new Oppo player.
stick a fork in it and call it done. :)
I’ll stick some photos up when its installed.
Be sorting the Troops coming over in the New Year mate, try and tie it up with when your back in the old country.
Yeah, I *totally* get that, mate. I've got my 5.1 system downstairs in the lounge (with the TV) so it doesn't intrude on my main system in the listening/music room.
Anyway, you've got some fun times ahead, on various fronts, with your forthcoming hols to Sweden and stuff, so I hope you have a ball! :cool:
Marco.
wee tee cee
07-12-2017, 12:48
Gary came over to my place last night to administer some emergency attention to my poor wee lenco.
Gave him a shuftie at my 2 channel av set up. Cheapo lg telly/recently bought sony blu ray £130 at richer sounds/tq claymore/spendor s1s.
I had a 5.1 sony av amp running a sub-its now all in the cellar.
We stuck a bit of dark knight rising on....the scene where they are trying to kill the DA shooting bazookas and ramming things with bin lorries.
Cant say we were underwhelmed.....bang for buck im well chuffed with a good 2 channel set up.
Fuck only knows what Garys will do- will of course bring jack or jim with me to the screening!
Yup,
Through Tony's TQ Claymore amp and Spendor speakers it was trouser flappingly good.
Sound was really cinematic and totally drew you into the movie.
Great picture too from the new BluRay player, image as sharp as a tack.
Gary came over to my place last night to administer some emergency attention to my poor wee lenco.
Gave him a shuftie at my 2 channel av set up. Cheapo lg telly/recently bought sony blu ray £130 at richer sounds/tq claymore/spendor s1s.
I had a 5.1 sony av amp running a sub-its now all in the cellar.
We stuck a bit of dark knight rising on....the scene where they are trying to kill the DA shooting bazookas and ramming things with bin lorries.
Cant say we were underwhelmed.....bang for buck im well chuffed with a good 2 channel set up.
Fuck only knows what Garys will do- will of course bring jack or jim with me to the screening!
Tellys up on the wall...https://i.imgur.com/qsfVtps.jpg
Not a lot bigger than the 60” it replaced, couple of inches wider but same height.
Difference is this is all screen, bezels about 8mm all round.
https://i.imgur.com/QKsXkR1.jpg
Notice that thing up the top right hand corner?
Its a biro pen...this is a thin telly.
A closer look...
https://i.imgur.com/nG9TKEV.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oXss3oa.jpg
Ali Tait
10-12-2017, 12:55
Very snazzy mate!
wee tee cee
10-12-2017, 14:27
You know that scene in Predator where Bill Duke kills the giant wild boar........Gary- could not have found something bigger.
That is a proper BFO (big fuck off) telly!
Get John Wick 2-the opening sequence will fry yer heid!
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