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Puffin
11-11-2017, 19:39
Does anyone else have mental images whilst listening to music?

Our recall of images/places/experiences goes back to not long after we were born. I often find myself listening to a piece of music and linking it to something in the past, an experience or a place I have been or just an atmosphere, something intangible.

There are certain types of music that provoke these cognitive responses. For example if I listen to the sort of stuff that the ECM label produce (Lars Dannielsson/Wolfgang Haffner/Jan Garbarek) eerie stuff with a sort of haunting atmosphere and I am transported to the bleakness of The Tate Modern and the vast engine room in the bowels of the building. The music is austere and sparse, and this conveys to me the bleakness of this bare and brutal structure.

Many years ago I was driving home from work and at one point the clouds in the sky looked like they were about to swoop down and engulf the road, enormous castles of clouds, about to burst with the sun behind and the sky pitch black at the same time. Quite frightening. The soundtrack by Vangelis form the album 1492 has the sort of brooding/menacing sound that always brings these images back to mind.

Anyone else experience this sort of thing?

farflungstar
11-11-2017, 19:43
Music has always painted pictures in my mind - I thought we were all the same?

paulf-2007
11-11-2017, 20:49
Does anyone else have mental images whilst listening to music?

Our recall of images/places/experiences goes back to not long after we were born. I often find myself listening to a piece of music and linking it to something in the past, an experience or a place I have been or just an atmosphere, something intangible.

There are certain types of music that provoke these cognitive responses. For example if I listen to the sort of stuff that the ECM label produce (Lars Dannielsson/Wolfgang Haffner/Jan Garbarek) eerie stuff with a sort of haunting atmosphere and I am transported to the bleakness of The Tate Modern and the vast engine room in the bowels of the building. The music is austere and sparse, and this conveys to me the bleakness of this bare and brutal structure.

Many years ago I was driving home from work and at one point the clouds in the sky looked like they were about to swoop down and engulf the road, enormous castles of clouds, about to burst with the sun behind and the sky pitch black at the same time. Quite frightening. The soundtrack by Vangelis form the album 1492 has the sort of brooding/menacing sound that always brings these images back to mind.

Anyone else experience this sort of thing?
You shouldn't be driving while on that shit Rob:)

Idlewithnodrive
11-11-2017, 21:10
I can barely remember what i had for last nights tea, so it would need to be some tune :)

Marco
11-11-2017, 21:29
I can barely remember what i had for last nights tea...

It was filet mignon au miel et au vinaigre balsamique, parfumés au curcuma, servis avec des haricots beurre et un coulis de poivrons grillé.

Happy to help.

Marco.

Barry
11-11-2017, 22:41
It was filet mignon au miel et au vinaigre balsamique, parfumés au curcuma, servis avec des haricots beurre et un coulis de poivrons grillé.

Happy to help.

Marco.

I eat something very similar in Saigon in 1994. It was in a restaurant at the Hotel Continental. Obviously There wasn't any music - so no Proustian moment, just an eidetic memory.

Pharos
11-11-2017, 23:48
It is well recognised that there are two established 'indexes' to lifetime points, smell and music.

Other than those we are increasingly in a world of metaphors, and I believe that our brain looks for metaphorical comparisons between sensual experiences.

Music can be written to be a deliberate portrayal of something also, and there are pieces which everyone would agree convey certain moods or things, for example Variations on a Theme From Thomas Tallis', Vaughn Williams, is to many bound up with the English countryside.

I usually dose when listening, and there is always some sort of prompted internal image response.

walpurgis
11-11-2017, 23:55
Music can be written to be a deliberate portrayal of something also, and there are pieces which everyone would agree convey certain moods or things, for example Variations on a Theme From Thomas Tallis', Vaughn Williams, is to many bound up with the English countryside

Not for me. When I hear the Tallis Fantasia, I have imagery of sixteenth century choral singers in a cathedral singing Tallis chants or lamentations.

Mikeandvan
12-11-2017, 00:44
Music features hugely in our culture, it is a constant presence, often to an annoyance, i.e. morons who wear headphones when in public. Of course it is going to be linked to memory and experience. Combine this with drugs and you have some truly magical sensory experiences. The music you mention, sort of ambient style invites reflection. About this time of year I have a niggling ear worm, George michaels 'Last xmas', its rather annoying.

My own rather fascinating experience with music and mind is that a song will come into my head and in an instant I'll realise why, because its reflecting the situation or thoughts I'm experiencing often to ironic or sarcastic effect! Wim Wenders in his film 'Kings of the road' stated how America had 'colonised our subconscious' (one of the main characters said this when a song came into his and his co star head).

Your thread may have been started with a slightly different meaning, music and mental images? The different types of music can represent every vague mood or situation, that's the beauty of it! Classical music being the supreme example of this I guess.

Puffin
12-11-2017, 08:04
You shouldn't be driving while on that shit Rob:)

Yes, I have tried giving up Dr Pepper but it is futile.

Haselsh1
12-11-2017, 09:06
Oh yeah, I certainly do. One of the main reasons I love this time of year so much is because it is dark early so the curtains can be drawn and the room lights switched off. That way there is nothing to distract from the stereo effect and the images in my head. Bring on imagination.

Pharos
12-11-2017, 09:59
Not wishing to Hi-Jack the thread, but almost implied is, what does music do to you? So many things for me.

Much of the period I love, mid 60s to ,mid 70s had poetic and psychological truths in the words which were very powerful when the right chord changes and harmonies were used. (progressive, and conveying an intended message).

But I also like Philip Glass, and don't know why, and I suppose the ways music interacts particularly with our subconscious minds, are numerous.

Primalsea
12-11-2017, 10:02
In a word no. When I sit and just relax with the hifi on I tend to clear my mind and not picture anything. Almost meditative sometimes.

Haselsh1
12-11-2017, 14:17
Not wishing to Hi-Jack the thread, but almost implied is, what does music do to you? So many things for me.

Much of the period I love, mid 60s to ,mid 70s had poetic and psychological truths in the words which were very powerful when the right chord changes and harmonies were used. (progressive, and conveying an intended message).

But I also like Philip Glass, and don't know why, and I suppose the ways music interacts particularly with our subconscious minds, are numerous.

Interesting, I love those early to mid 70's rock tunes , especially Prog Rock tunes and I also love the music of Philip Glass.

newton
12-11-2017, 15:39
yes esp when listening to ana caram

Yomanze
12-11-2017, 18:07
I do get mental images of where I was when certain nostalgic tunes are being played. What is a lot more common to me is having music in my head all the time, very vivid, even when I am not listening to anything. This is a pretty much constant phenomenon, but am not complaining. Currently I have “Little Red Corvette” playing in my head as I type this.


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r100
12-11-2017, 19:07
Music has always painted pictures in my mind - I thought we were all the same?

yeap, so true. it's all about images... (for me) but as Paul mentioned earlier, a meditative state is (again for me) sometimes also - but rarely - the case.

Pieoftheday
12-11-2017, 19:57
Does anyone else have mental images whilst listening to music?

Our recall of images/places/experiences goes back to not long after we were born. I often find myself listening to a piece of music and linking it to something in the past, an experience or a place I have been or just an atmosphere, something intangible.

There are certain types of music that provoke these cognitive responses. For example if I listen to the sort of stuff that the ECM label produce (Lars Dannielsson/Wolfgang Haffner/Jan Garbarek) eerie stuff with a sort of haunting atmosphere and I am transported to the bleakness of The Tate Modern and the vast engine room in the bowels of the building. The music is austere and sparse, and this conveys to me the bleakness of this bare and brutal structure.

Many years ago I was driving home from work and at one point the clouds in the sky looked like they were about to swoop down and engulf the road, enormous castles of clouds, about to burst with the sun behind and the sky pitch black at the same time. Quite frightening. The soundtrack by Vangelis form the album 1492 has the sort of brooding/menacing sound that always brings these images back to mind.

Anyone else experience this sort of thing?

Def, depends on music , sometimes good places , sometimes dark,,. ,,,,,,

Pigmy Pony
12-11-2017, 20:22
Music bringing forth mental images used to happen to me more back in the seventies, can't think why.

Another thing, and this may just be me, but the design and colour of an album sleeve sometimes would affect my perception of the music contained. Eg. 'Love It To Death' by Alice Cooper seemed a darker album than say, 'Killer', and Massive Attack's 'Mezzanine' bleaker than 'Blue Lines'.