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Bigman80
09-11-2017, 23:11
Hi all,

I might have the opportunity to pick up a pair of KEF IQ7se for very sensible money.

Has anyone got any experience with them?

Would be used for hi-fi only.

Ta

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Firebottle
10-11-2017, 07:20
Ooh well ... if you can get them at a good price the you should be able to move them on if they don't gel.

I have a suspicion they are going to sound a bit 'hi-fi' compared to your Pioneers, but that's just a guess.

KEF do seem to be pushing the technology, so benefits trickling down to lower price models :)

Jimbo has heard the LS50 and Blades so maybe can offer an opinion on the KEF approach.

Bigman80
10-11-2017, 07:39
Ooh well ... if you can get them at a good price the you should be able to move them on if they don't gel.

I have a suspicion they are going to sound a bit 'hi-fi' compared to your Pioneers, but that's just a guess.

KEF do seem to be pushing the technology, so benefits trickling down to lower price models :)

Jimbo has heard the LS50 and Blades so maybe can offer an opinion on the KEF approach.Cheers Al, I'm not convinced that it's a forward step so I'll probably leave them for now. Bit close to Christmas to get money stuck in speakers i can't shift if I don't like them.

Reviews are positive mind you.

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walpurgis
10-11-2017, 13:37
If you get them, don't go mad with volume levels. There are a few of that series about with blown tweeters, probably overdriven.

wee tee cee
10-11-2017, 14:07
I have a pair of iq 50s, havent heard the 70s but mine are bright in the treble department.

I love 57s and spendors so it may just be that im a pipe and slippers man!

Hope that helps....

Bigman80
10-11-2017, 14:53
Cheers guys, I passed them up. A quick session with my Pioneers convinced me I didn't need them regardless of price.

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Pieoftheday
10-11-2017, 15:01
I have a pair of iq 50s, havent heard the 70s but mine are bright in the treble department.

I love 57s and spendors so it may just be that im a pipe and slippers man!

Hope that helps....

I had the iq30's, I found these bright too,enough to give me headaches:(

wee tee cee
10-11-2017, 17:16
yep probably the most fatiguing speaker ive ever had. Different dacs/amps/cables-tried the lot.
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They image really well and have a great bass and control but the treble is awfull

Macca
10-11-2017, 18:08
Cheers guys, I passed them up. A quick session with my Pioneers convinced me I didn't need them regardless of price.

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Your Pioneers would retail for at least a couple of grand if they were still made today. A budget floorstander will never get the better of them. At best it would just be different.

Bigman80
10-11-2017, 18:20
Your Pioneers would retail for at least a couple of grand if they were still made today. A budget floorstander will never get the better of them. At best it would just be different.I know you're right, macca. They are (IMO) an incredibly underated speaker.

I am just struggling a bit for space so I looked for an alternative. Sound wise there is no issue whatsoever.

I've convinced the Wife we need to convert the Garage so they will be relocating to another room at some point. May be a while but these Pioneers are going nowhere.

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Macca
10-11-2017, 18:27
I know you're right, macca. They are (IMO) an incredibly underated speaker.

I am just struggling a bit for space so I looked for an alternative. Sound wise there is no issue whatsoever.

I've convinced the Wife we need to convert the Garage so they will be relocating to another room at some point. May be a while but these Pioneers are going nowhere.

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Yeah I would never sell my Akai SW175s, very similar to your Pioneers and from the same era. The big JM Labs that replaced them are not better, just different. They can't play bass like the Akais can, and I don't mean depth or power but with the Akais you can practically identify the model of bass guitar that is being played, the tone is so clear.

Bigman80
10-11-2017, 18:36
Yeah I would never sell my Akai SW175s, very similar to your Pioneers and from the same era. The big JM Labs that replaced them are not better, just different. They can't play bass like the Akais can, and I don't mean depth or power but with the Akais you can practically identify the model of bass guitar that is being played, the tone is so clear.There really are some fantastic older speakers that people just turn their nose up at. These Pioneers were a revelation. I owe Geoff a huge pint for A) recommending them and B) refoaming the drivers for me.



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Macca
10-11-2017, 18:45
There really are some fantastic older speakers that people just turn their nose up at. These Pioneers were a revelation. I owe Geoff a huge pint for A) recommending them and B) refoaming the drivers for me.



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You won't go far wrong listening to Geoff. He knows vintage. Probably because he is vintage. ;) I got mine because I'd read for years in the mags that they would be rubbish but I wanted to see for myself.

Bigman80
10-11-2017, 18:46
[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] vintage Geoff. New forum name?



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walpurgis
10-11-2017, 18:49
There really are some fantastic older speakers that people just turn their nose up at

I don't know about turning noses up, but these are not on most folk's radar.

http://i64.tinypic.com/w72ank.jpg

The original Spendor S100 from about 25 years ago. Beautifully balanced sound and punchy with it! Rare though.

There aren't that many speakers I'd want, but these are towards the top of my list.

Macca
10-11-2017, 18:50
Mind you there are a lot of rubbish 'Kabuki' speakers out there too. You have to do your research to get a quality set. People hear a pair of the crap ones and then tar them all with the same brush.

Jimbo
10-11-2017, 19:50
I would not go for any of the KEF speakers in their lower range and I would even give the reference range a pass especially as they are mega expensive.

However the LS5O is superb and the blades are something else altogether! The blades are truly extraordinary. Problem is they are £20,000!!

Jimbo
10-11-2017, 19:52
I don't know about turning noses up, but these are not on most folk's radar.

http://i64.tinypic.com/w72ank.jpg

The original Spendor S100 from about 25 years ago. Beautifully balanced sound and punchy with it! Rare though.

There aren't that many speakers I'd want, but these are towards the top of my list.

Now they are a fantastic sounding speaker and I agree with you there Geoff, I would love a pair!!

Bigman80
10-11-2017, 19:54
£20000 !!!!!!! Crikey

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walpurgis
10-11-2017, 20:50
£20000 !!!!!!! Crikey

If you are referring to the recently introduced 'tribute' S100 model Oliver, It's completely different apart from the visual similarity.

I've seen the old ones for between £500 and £1000, but not for a while. As I said, they're rare.

Bigman80
10-11-2017, 21:01
If you are referring to the recently introduced 'tribute' S100 model Oliver, It's completely different apart from the visual similarity.

I've seen the old ones for between £500 and £1000, but not for a while. As I said, they're rare.No Geoff. The KEF's [emoji50]

Hoping Jimbo takes me for a listen!!

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Pharos
11-11-2017, 00:16
The S100s were compared to ATC when first out, but 'a little more fruity' they were described as, and Hi-Fi News stated that they were close to a panel in sound.

There is a current later model.

Bigman80
11-11-2017, 00:17
The S100s were compared to ATC when first out, but 'a little more fruity' they were described as, and Hi-Fi News stated that they were close to a panel in sound.

There is a current later model.A panel? Like a quad ?

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Pharos
11-11-2017, 09:14
I assume so, or Magnaplanar maybe.

Bigman80
11-11-2017, 09:23
I assume so, or Magnaplanar maybe.Oh, how interesting. I'd like to hear a pair. I like magneplanars

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wee tee cee
11-11-2017, 10:22
I have spendor sp1s on the original open stands. I have 57s and 63s and can confirm the spendors do indeed sound very like my statics-they just do more bass.

My wife adores them and has banned me from selling them.