View Full Version : Don't demand anti-biotics from your GP!
There is an advert by the NHS telling you not to ask/demand that your GP prescribe anti-biotics. Is it not the case that any GP in their right mind will not prescribe them if they are not needed? It is not for us to demand that we have them.
More money wasting by the NHS.
hifi_dave
24-10-2017, 13:32
GPs do not have to prescribe Antibiotics and in my experience they do only when necessary. However, people do demand them and I'm not sure if GPs then are forced to prescribe.
IMO, the real waste of resources is in treating all and sundry who visit Hospitals, whether they have paid into the system or not.
They are not forced to prescribe, it is just a quick way to get some pain in the arse out of your surgery.
It seems from Googling that they feel "under pressure" to prescribe even when they know that they will not provide a cure e.g the common cold. They need to man up and have the courage of their convictions.
I don't see why they can't give people placebos and just tell them it is antibiotics. Then everyone is happy.
I don't see why they can't give people placebos and just tell them it is antibiotics. Then everyone is happy.
think they do.
Minstrel SE
26-10-2017, 04:05
I am, rarely at the doctors but I tend to find its a bit of a one way relationship. I never feel I am getting their full attention or best practice.
Its like the Spike milligan sketch when the doctor asks if this will be private or on the NHS...Of course if private is mentioned a desk is swivelled round with all the best equipment on it. Ok that maybe an unfair reference today but there is just that feeling that costs are under strict quotas and I am not provided with the best creams or medicines
I wonder if the medical reps still visit the doctors regularly
I think more people should demand medicines and ask for a full explanation why they are not getting them. Im sorry but I do tend to feel that gps are overpaid and underworked. Maybe I just dont like going to a doctor but it will probably happen more as I get older
perlogalism
26-10-2017, 08:04
They are not forced to prescribe, it is just a quick way to get some pain in the arse out of your surgery.
Very much so. When I did work in the NHS (many years ago) we were all appalled when pushy patients demanded Hospital transport for their appointments and the spineless Doctors gave it to them to avoid an argument.
Did it myself when I wanted to get signed off work after having my leg stitched up.
Vet asks me what I do at work, told him, he says well you can still do that, no need for a sick note. I pointed out I had to walk there and back and it was very painful just to walk a few steps. Still not bothered so I kicked off, sick note written out straight away.
That was good because it was the work's fault I'd been injured so I had 2 weeks off on full pay. Happy days.
hifinutt
26-10-2017, 12:56
I don't see why they can't give people placebos and just tell them it is antibiotics. Then everyone is happy.
used to know a very bloody minded Gp who had more complaints against him than you have ever heard of . but a lady was really suffereing with urinary infection and they refused to prescribe becuase of these presures . caused the person so much agony agony
they are between a rock and a hard place sometimes . especially with pressure ulcers and dodgy swab results
anthonyTD
26-10-2017, 13:08
Part of the problem is Education, trying to explain to some folk who have a virus, that Antibiotics will have little, to no affect on it' is like trying to educate pork!!! :doh: Hence I can understand, [although dont agree with it] why some Doctors' faced with the dilema of having to argue with this person, just give in, and give them what they demand.:rolleyes:
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I think more people should demand medicines and ask for a full explanation why they are not getting them. Im sorry but I do tend to feel that gps are overpaid and underworked. Maybe I just dont like going to a doctor but it will probably happen more as I get older
Tell that to my daughter in law, always assuming you don’t mind a punch in the face and a well deserved hour long lecture. I think it’s fair to assume that you have no idea at all what GPs have to put up with. Yes, they’re well paid, but if it’s such a bed of roses, why are they leaving in droves?
They can't be that busy as they are always sending me letters asking me to make an appointment. Plus adverts on telly saying 'Got a cough? That's lung cancer mate, probably, not just a cold, so get down to your G P pronto.' (Where you'll find out it is just a cold but then catch something much worse from the disease-ridden mob in the waiting room).
If the NHS is so overburdened and short of money why spend even more touting for business?
Because although they are NHS doctors, the practice itself is a private business which gets paid per patient. Another example of the ridiculous way in which the NHS is structured and managed.
Crazy isn't it?
What I don't get is that if it is as hard to get an appointment as everyone says it is then you would think they are already at capacity as regards patients, and therefore already getting the maximum revenue possible?
Because although they are NHS doctors, the practice itself is a private business which gets paid per patient. Another example of the ridiculous way in which the NHS is structured and managed.
GPs get paid per patient registered with them regardless of whether or not they see them. I have heard that some patients, who fortunately live healthy lives and haven't seen their GP for years, can get struck off !
Our old family doctor used to prescribe you paracetamol with every visit, even if it just for a flu jab. Didn't matter if you need them out not.
Then I got ill and all he would want to give me was heat creams which didn't work but he refused to send me to get checked up. I went to the local A & E to get told I had a form of arthritis. Funny thing was when I went back to him with the letter the hospital gave me he got angry at the fact I got checked up without his permission... Go figure, oh and he's no longer my GP
Our old family doctor used to prescribe you paracetamol with every visit, even if it just for a flu jab. Didn't matter if you need them out not.
Then I got ill and all he would want to give me was heat creams which didn't work but he refused to send me to get checked up. I went to the local A & E to get rid I had a form of arthritis. Funny thing was when I went back to him with the letter the hospital gave me he got angry at the fact I got checked up without his permission... Go figure, oh and he's no longer my GP
Obviously one of the 'old school' GPs who liked to maintain a professional mystique. I once saw my old (and not missed) GP to ask what help he could provide with some flu-like symptoms I had. His initial response was berate me saying it was his job to tell what was wrong with me and not for me to tell him!
My new GP is of a more modern school, listens and explains everything. He has a much better 'bedside manner' than that of my old GP.
I once saw my old (and not missed) GP to ask what help he could provide with some flu-like symptoms I had. His initial response was berate me saying it was his job to tell what was wrong with me and not for me to tell him!
That sounds exactly like my GP, even though you need to tell them why you were there in the first place...:rolleyes:
When I was a lad our GP was Doctor Binnie who had served with Orde Wingate in the Chindits in WW2. If you were sick he would come out to see you. None of this nonsense about having to call after 8am to make an appointment. He didn't need to google your symptoms to know what was wrong with you, either.
3 of our gps are women. all are very nice and good at their job. In fact all the GP's in my practice are very good, as were the retired now ones.
hifinutt
28-10-2017, 21:42
talking with a friend who is a gp in a very large practice with a good number of partners . they have just handed in notice to the nhs and are resigning their practice on mass . its very worrying as we need more GP`s . one was sadly killed a few nights ago on a bike here
they are under incredible stress and not many want to join their ranks
this makes interesting reading
http://www.cqc.org.uk/publications/major-report/state-care-general-practice-2014-2017
talking with a friend who is a gp in a very large practice with a good number of partners . they have just handed in notice to the nhs and are resigning their practice on mass . its very worrying as we need more GP`s . one was sadly killed a few nights ago on a bike here
they are under incredible stress and not many want to join their ranks
this makes interesting reading
http://www.cqc.org.uk/publications/major-report/state-care-general-practice-2014-2017
not really doing their patients any good. what happened to duty
Audio Al
28-10-2017, 22:45
I dont use any medication , hate the stuff , I did and have for the last few years had the flu jab , Thats it
Not even aspirins ;)
talking with a friend who is a gp in a very large practice with a good number of partners . they have just handed in notice to the nhs and are resigning their practice on mass . its very worrying as we need more GP`s . one was sadly killed a few nights ago on a bike here
they are under incredible stress and not many want to join their ranks
this makes interesting reading
http://www.cqc.org.uk/publications/major-report/state-care-general-practice-2014-2017
At the end of our inspection programme of GP practices:
4% were rated outstanding, 86% were good, 8% were requires improvement and 2% were inadequate overall
82% of practices that were first rated as requires improvement or inadequate improved their rating following their most recent inspection
Doesn't sound like there us a problem to me, 90% of practices are good or outstanding.
As for stress, no doubt they thought they were going to pick up their hundred grand a year for doing next to nothing? Must have been a terrible experience when they first took a look in the waiting room and saw all those sick people requiring their attention. I don't think my old GP found the job stressful but then having been in Burma with the japs shooting at him from the bushes he probably had some perspective.
hifinutt
29-10-2017, 18:48
not really doing their patients any good. what happened to duty
I guess they got worn out by all the demands on them , I doubt they did it lightly . this chap is a very dedicated guy
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