View Full Version : Tom's Schiit Modi Multibit DAC (£250) Versus Justin's Lampizator Big 7 (£6K)
Tom (Montesquieu) sent me his Schiit Multibit DAC to play with for a bit.
The only other DAC I have in the house at the moment is a Lampizator Big 7.
So I thought it only reasonable to compare the two directly. Because, well, there aren't many reviews where two DACs of such massively different price points are compared.
My Big 7 is one of the very first made, and is quite different to the current production versions, which use PCBs and metal casing. Mine is hardwired, hand built throughout and built into a wooden chassis. I like it that way, TBH, and feel no need to upgrade it after two Golden Gates have been in my system for brief visits.
The point is, what does a technically competent but cheap multibit solid state DAC give you that is different to a not so test bench competent esoteric valve rectified triode output stage effort?
Well, I'll tell you when I have done some reasonable amount of listening to the Modi.
What's more, I'll just be totally honest about it, as I hear it. The comparison is made tough by the fact that the Lampizator changes its presentation so radically with different output triodes and rectifiers it isn't really a fixed sounding DAC. That is its huge plus IMHO, and an advantage the cheap Modi can never have.
Evaluation system is Cayin SC10 (almost) preamp->Austria Analogue 211 monoblocks->Apogee Duetta Interstella loudspeakers. Make no mistake, the system is extremely high resolution, and detecting differences is made very easy by that fact. That however does mean I will hear things that just won't be heard in other situations. Nevertheless...:)
Pics and thoughts later.
So is the Schiit shit? The obvious question.
Size doesn't matter. It is what you can do with the size you have that counts. So some say...
Schiit warming up, about to hit some loud bass driven electronic music, the sort of thing I'd expect it to be pretty good at.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171015/493135c35bb1ed4dd0f3becb3e86bbfe.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171015/9488c719107856ed6230971091beaaf0.jpg
montesquieu
15-10-2017, 13:52
:reel::reel:
Interesting ...
Well it is better than an RPi from what I remember. And by a margin. I am feeding it with mains regen.
Gain matching is hard as the Lampi has approximately double the output I'd guess.
Gotta go out to Sainsbugs. But I can definitely listen to it. Very promising so far.
Bigman80
15-10-2017, 14:10
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So I think I'll just do notes as I listen.
Firstly, the Schiit can do what the RPi could not. In other words, cast reasonable fore and aft depth and when swapping from the Lampi to the Schiit you don't feel as though you have lost a lot of information.
Mid range resolution is definitely down though from the currently installed KR PX4 valves in the Lampi. But it is a very pleasant mid range so far. Easy to listen to, no question. No weirdness. What is a bit weird is the weight in the bass, which tends to make your ear focus on it. It comes over as a bit too strong and gluey.
The Lampi seems to merge the bass with the mid range in a more seemless manner, such that the ear isn't so drawn to the bass. That said the Lampi is a bit more diffuse in focus in the bass region and it appears to come from higher up the bass panel as well as from the bottom of it, whereas the bass from the Schiit seems to emanate from the bottom of the bass panel. Quite why that would be is anyone's guess.
There's more space in the soundstage with the Lampi, despite the Schiit being better than the RPi in that respect.
More thoughts when I feel like posting them. Despite the differences that are quite obviously there, the Schiit does sound very good for the money so far. Massively better value than the Lampi could ever hope to be.
Above observations were mainly drawn up listening to various Dub Spencer and Trance Hill recordings using an SPL meter to judge volume levels. This is bass heavy stuff for the most part.
Well it is better than an RPi from what I remember.
An Rpi what? in conjunction with what? An Rpi is just a computer...
An Rpi what? in conjunction with what? An Rpi is just a computer...You don't say. Fair point though. Tis covered by a thread on AoS from a while back. Will post it later.
Justin
Very interesting. I will be following closely.
Please could you describe what your digital sources are and how you are connecting to the DACs.
Pity you are not just around the corner from me as I would ask you to also compare the Chevron NOS DAC I have here and not currently using.
Edward
Justin
Very interesting. I will be following closely.
Please could you describe what your digital sources are and how you are connecting to the DACs.
Pity you are not just around the corner from me as I would ask you to also compare the Chevron NOS DAC I have here and not currently using.
EdwardLaptop->HDMI->Samsung TV optical out->Lampi or Schiit optical in.
I know that sounds odd but I prefer it to USB from the laptop directly to the Lampi. TIDAL is the source.
Anyone is free to send me stuff to listen to or offer to come round with something to listen to.
The Schiit is now really quite warm to the touch. Now it is genuinely warm I'll move onto something else.
I am sure you will probably prefer the Lampi at the end of the day but I wonder how it would compare against the mighty Yggdrasil ?
Enjoying your review Justin.:)
The really hard thing to do is to sit here and try and convince myself I am being neutral and unbiased Jim.
Anyway, Sleaford Mods TCR EP. The difference between the two DACs now becomes way more marked in terms of in room believability. Via the Lampi they just sound way more like they are in the room than via the Schiit. What ambience there is in this recording comes across as sounding simply more real.
The Schiit's more recessed mid range detail does it no favours here, and there's a sense that the replay is somehow slightly more mechanical, less natural. It is still very listenable, however, and again no weirdness. There's no odd colourations or anything that sounds suspect or annoying. It is more relaxed and civilised at the expense of sounding quite a bit less real.
The really hard thing to do is to sit here and try and convince myself I am being neutral and unbiased Jim.
Anyway, Sleaford Mods TCR EP. The difference between the two DACs now becomes way more marked in terms of in room believability. Via the Lampi they just sound way more like they are in the room than via the Schiit. What ambience there is in this recording comes across as sounding simply more real.
The Schiit's more recessed mid range detail does it no favours here, and there's a sense that the replay is somehow slightly more mechanical, less natural. It is still very listenable, however, and again no weirdness. There's no odd colourations or anything that sounds suspect or annoying. It is more relaxed and civilised at the expense of sounding quite a bit less real.
Maybe a bit of a bargain then considering the price?
Maybe a bit of a bargain then considering the price?It is.
Joe 90 by The City of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra. I declare a draw here. Possibly siding with the Schiit on this one. The Lampi's more forward mid did it no favours - the reverse of the previous result.
However, the Lampi has the antidote if required. The more forward highly detailed PX4 mid can be toned down by dumping in a set of Tung Sol 6A3s. Or altered in various other different ways by using a variety of other alternatives.
End of listening session for tonight.
An Rpi what? in conjunction with what? An Rpi is just a computer...http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=38479
montesquieu
15-10-2017, 19:35
I am sure you will probably prefer the Lampi at the end of the day but I wonder how it would compare against the mighty Yggdrasil ?
Enjoying your review Justin.:)
That's one I would really love to line up against my Audio Note.
Justin's conclusions on the Modi Multibit mirror mine though I was far from as methodical about it as Justin has been. I still preferred the Audio Note, the feel was more natural, relaxed, realistic. But what track by track comparison I did to of what they were each actually doing made it a closer run thing. Mad batshit crazy that a little box like this should do so well. I really do like what it does.
That's one I would really love to line up against my Audio Note.
Justin's conclusions on the Modi Multibit mirror mine though I was far from as methodical about it as Justin has been. I still preferred the Audio Note, the feel was more natural, relaxed, realistic. But what track by track comparison I did to of what they were each actually doing made it a closer run thing. Mad batshit crazy that a little box like this should do so well. I really do like what it does.Yeah the Modi does kind of beg the question. It has a fixed sound, though. Can't really be doing with that.
By all accounts the Yggdrasil is very good indeed. Not read a bad review yet and not really that expensive compared to most of the high end DACs out there.
Someone send me one LOL:)
http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=38479
Ah so you're comparing it to the IQ audio DAC...which is easily bettered by an Audiophonics or Allo alternative for less than £70 :)
https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/diy-dac/audiophonics-i-sabre-dac-es9023-v2-tcxo-raspberry-pi-20-a-b-i2s-p-10657.html
https://www.allo.com/sparky/boss-dac.html
jandl100
16-10-2017, 09:25
There are quite a few low budget, good sounding DACs around these days.
In the absence of a direct comparison with the best of the much higher priced gear they can be remarkably convincing.
There's the French DAC3 that Brian and I like. The Chinese XiangSheng DAC-01A that I very happily cohabited with for a year or so. The Beresford SEG as well.
I am sure the Schiit Modi is also up there although I haven't heard one.
Mind you, there is a lot of bland shite out there as well. :lol:
Any of these, ime, can see off the traditional mid price choices like Rega and Audiolab and even give the higher end stuff a surprisingly good run for its money and see off quite a few of them as well - been there, done that!
There are quite a few low budget, good sounding DACs around these days.
In the absence of a direct comparison with the best of the much higher priced gear they can be remarkably convincing.
There's the French DAC3 that Brian and I like. The Chinese XiangSheng DAC-01A that I very happily cohabited with for a year or so. The Beresford SEG as well.
I am sure the Schiit Modi is also up there although I haven't heard one.
Mind you, there is a lot of bland shite out there as well. :lol:
Any of these, ime, can see off the traditional mid price choices like Rega and Audiolab and even give the higher end stuff a surprisingly good run for its money and see off quite a few of them as well - been there, done that!
would agree with much of that Jerry. not heard the dac3 yet but the XiangSheng is very good and has the advantage of superb connectivity. So good I cant find a good reason to spend more
jandl100
16-10-2017, 10:05
would agree with much of that Jerry. not heard the dac3 yet but the XiangSheng is very good and has the advantage of superb connectivity. So good I cant find a good reason to spend more
Bargain alert!
Be quick. ;)
http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?54379-FS-Xiang-Sheng-DAC-01-A
montesquieu
16-10-2017, 10:55
would agree with much of that Jerry. not heard the dac3 yet but the XiangSheng is very good and has the advantage of superb connectivity. So good I cant find a good reason to spend more
Knowing a litte bit of Chinese, the name puts me off. Xiang Sheng could have several meanings depending on what tones are used but the most common one is 'Mr' which depending on how its used can mean something slightly formal like 'Respected Sir' when you go into a shop, or in some contexts simply 'husband'.
OTOH some names in Chinese and Japanese are very cool. For example Koetsu, which Sugano named after a hero of his, a famous craftsman in medieval Japan. But there's another layer, in that the characters in the name Koetsu carry an associated meaning in both Japanese and Chinese of 'bright' and 'pleasing', very appropriate.
Knowing a litte bit of Chinese, the name puts me off. Xiang Sheng could have several meanings depending on what tones are used but the most common one is 'Mr' which depending on how its used can mean something slightly formal like 'Respected Sir' when you go into a shop, or in some contexts simply 'husband'.
OTOH some names in Chinese and Japanese are very cool. For example Koetsu, which Sugano named after a hero of his, a famous craftsman in medieval Japan. But there's another layer, in that the characters in the name Koetsu carry an associated meaning in both Japanese and Chinese of 'bright' and 'pleasing', very appropriate.
schiit has a few too ;)
montesquieu
16-10-2017, 11:55
schiit has a few too ;)
lol yes indeed very brave of them ....
Talking of names, and nerd factor, have you seen the 30 minute ShitFerBrains Yggdasil construction video?
https://youtu.be/R3YZmaIRb6Q
I think this DAC looks promising. Why? Because it uses decent caps (I really like ELNAs for the money from previous experience of them - I'd stuffed 16 of them in the Bill Beard BB100 I had driving Tom's Tannoys). You could also stuff a couple of seriously good Tesla E88CC cross swords in it. Do that and I reckon it would be fab.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F 272222244135
The description leaves a worrying brain imprint, though. Get over that and you might be on a winner. Then again it could suck. £300 to find out. More after import charges.
According to Norse mythology Yggdrasil will come into its own after the battle of Ragnarock (or Doomsday). Hopefully one won't have so long to wait for the Yggdrasil DAC to work its magic.
So I spent virtually all of last night watching TV, catching up with the news and other stuff on various stations on Sky. As I did so, I swapped between the Modi, and the Lampi with three triodes - Sylvania VT-52, Tung Sol 6A3 and KR PX-4.
Ranked in the following order, essentially for vocal reproduction more than anything else.
1) VT-52.
2) Tung Sol 6A3
3) Schiit Modi
4) KR PX-4
I have to slam the PX-4 on TV voices. It full stop exaggerates sibilants. It is just plain annoying. Interestingly with music it doesn't seem to be much of a problem, but with the rubbish mics used by the BBC and Sky on outside of the studio news reporting, it flat down really is an issue.
The Modi comes 3rd, as it essentially doesn't capture the ambience and deliver voices with a sense of real ease that the Tung Sol or VT-52 options do. Nor does it deliver the sense of front to back space that VT-52 or 6A3 capture (or even add?). The gap in detail retrieval is quite marked compared with any of the valve options.
6A3 hits 2nd place purely because there is rather to much front to back space for voices to be considered realistically portrayed. Tone is fine, but there is just too much z-plane portrayal, though it is fun to hear.
VT-52 wins, being the most neutral and natural of the lot. VT-52 never seems to hype. I think it is the most neutral sounding of the seven or so triode options I own. It is never out to impress or hype. That doesn't make it the most fun, but if you hype any particular aspect in reproduction, you can guarantee it'll be fab on some types of reproduction, but fail on others. The bigger the hype the bigger the fail.
That said, I still rank the Schiit Modi as being good. OK it doesn't portray the sense of space and ease of delivery the top two do, but it is still damn listenable if a little shut in. The best thing is it doesn't do anything noticeably wrong or annoying. It is perfectly acceptable sitting within the scope of an expensive system. I have no issues listening to it.
One more thing. As the Lampi warmed, along with the Schiit, the gap widened in favour of the Lampi, which just got more natural (or just easier sounding) as time went on.
More as I get the time...:)
serendipitydawg
22-10-2017, 15:59
" Laptop->HDMI->Samsung TV optical out->Lampi or Schiit optical in. "
Justin; have you ruled out the possibility that the TV may be re-sampling the digital signal.
My TV (not a Samsung btw) does. Just a thought
" Laptop->HDMI->Samsung TV optical out->Lampi or Schiit optical in. "
Justin; have you ruled out the possibility that the TV may be re-sampling the digital signal.
My TV (not a Samsung btw) does. Just a thoughtTotally.
I hardly listen to anything but 44.1KHz stuff via TIDAL these days, so it doesn't really matter.
The distance from my laptop to the DAC is more than 5 metres, more than the USB spec. TBH that still works and it probably should sound better than the method I use. However, in practise the via the TV link never fails or glitches unless TIDAL servers fail to deliver. I have less trouble with it than the USB link.
Occasionally I get the USB lead out for high bit rate stuff but it never lasts long.
you tried a repeater cable. been using one for a while now and no problems
Colinijohnson
22-10-2017, 18:25
Talking of names, and nerd factor, have you seen the 30 minute ShitFerBrains Yggdasil construction video?
https://youtu.be/R3YZmaIRb6Q
I think this DAC looks promising. Why? Because it uses decent caps (I really like ELNAs for the money from previous experience of them - I'd stuffed 16 of them in the Bill Beard BB100 I had driving Tom's Tannoys). You could also stuff a couple of seriously good Tesla E88CC cross swords in it. Do that and I reckon it would be fab.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F 272222244135
The description leaves a worrying brain imprint, though. Get over that and you might be on a winner. Then again it could suck. £300 to find out. More after import charges.
They have a European website with distribution- so no import duty - I ordered some rca cables at £20 or so. I find them excellent
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Colinijohnson
22-10-2017, 18:28
They have a European website with distribution- so no import duty - I ordered some rca cables at £20 or so. I find them excellent
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I think they do a return if not delighted policy if I recall as have been tempted by their products previously
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I heard a Lampi 7 at a bakeoff when I took a Bryston DAC I used to own. The general consensus was the the Lampizator was a poor product, in sound and build compared to the Bryston. I no longer own the latter but I believe that the Lampi can be improved upon significantly.
I heard a Lampi 7 at a bakeoff when I took a Bryston DAC I used to own. The general consensus was the the Lampizator was a poor product, in sound and build compared to the Bryston. I no longer own the latter but I believe that the Lampi can be improved upon significantly.Technically even a Schiit Modi does it. That isn't what the DAC is about IMHO. It is about exploration and adventures in triode/valve distortion.
If you don't realise that you are missing half a cog. The same is true of a lot of valve based products in my opinion - whether from Kondo, Audio Note etc etc.
It is a fair comment but depending on your angle and priorities anything can be regarded as a poor product.
Outside of this forum there is a mass of respect for Lampis - far more than you will find for Bryston DACs.
Technically even a Schiit Modi does it. That isn't what the DAC is about IMHO. It is about exploration and adventures in triode/valve distortion.
If you don't realise that you are missing half a cog. The same is true of a lot of valve based products in my opinion - whether from Kondo, Audio Note etc etc.
It is a fair comment but depending on your angle and priorities anything can be regarded as a poor product.
Outside of this forum there is a mass of respect for Lampis - far more than you will find for Bryston DACs.
I no longer have the Bryston so I have no axe to grind. I have no desire to simply defend a product that I own and I have no interest in introducing distortion either, at least not deliberately.
If you enjoy the Lampizator products then that is all that counts. I am simply telling my experience of what I felt was a poor product costing a large sum.
I no longer have the Bryston so I have no axe to grind. I have no desire to simply defend a product that I own and I have no interest in introducing distortion either, at least not deliberately.
If you enjoy the Lampizator products then that is all that counts. I am simply telling my experience of what I felt was a poor product costing a large sum.Cool.
you tried a repeater cable. been using one for a while now and no problemsNo but I was aware of them.
loonytunes
23-10-2017, 10:07
Evaluation system is Cayin SC10 (almost) preamp->Austria Analogue 211 monoblocks->Apogee Duetta Interstella loudspeakers. Make no mistake, the system is extremely high resolution, and detecting differences is made very easy by that fact. That however does mean I will hear things that just won't be heard in other situations. Nevertheless...:)
Pics and thoughts later.
The Apogee Duetta Interstella loudspeakers are supposed to be incredible! No doubt any small change will be easy to pick out using amazing loudspeakers like that. You are very fortunate. I can hear obvious changes using an old pair of 1976 Magnepan MG-1's, so the Apogee's are likley to be even more of an open window.
The Apogee Duetta Interstella loudspeakers are supposed to be incredible!
They utilise alien technology I received via my Interocitor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interocitor). Hence the "out of this world" sound.
Apogee owners should not really communicate with Maggie owners due to the Maggie lawsuit. I've made an exception here for your information, but beware for future reference:D;)
loonytunes
25-10-2017, 17:04
Oh sorry, I didn't know about the Maggie lawsuit. I didn't even think Maggies sounded similar to the Apogees.
Going back to digital front-ends, I received an email a couple of days ago from DOGE regarding the new DOGE 7 tube DAC, did anyone else get this? $200 off if you buy before the end of this Month. DOGE has a good reputation for a Chinese brand, and this one looks very well engineered and especially good vfm for what you get! Compare that to the Lampi!
http://www.doge.audio/products/tube-dac/doge-7-tube-dac/
I had a Doge 6 CDP here plugged into some Rowland 301 monos via Music First preamp in a bake off I held using my first pair of Apogees (Duetta refurbs not Interstella). In the pic you can see a Nagra CDP in the bottom shelf of the rack.
IMHO the Doge 6 was better than the Nagra by no small margin (not just my opinion), so I bet the Doge 7 is great. It doesn't use big old triodes, though, so valve rolling won't be as fun or as marked a difference when you roll valves.
So this DAC should have made it back to Tom's or may just still be on the way. Not sure.
Anyway, big thanks to Tom for the loan. It is always good fun trying new kit whatever the price level I think. This DAC surely shows a pretty decent DAC can be had for £250 odd. Would I buy one? The truth is I wouldn't personally as I just love the flexibility of valve based DACs purely due to their finetuneability (yes, there IS such a word;)).
In truth, towards the end of the loan, I listened to it less and less, as the novelty wore off. Why was this? Simply because I found the Lampi to be the better of the two subjectively on the large majority of material. But it is kind of sobering to think that the Lampi couldn't win on every single track I threw at both DACs. That the personality of the Schiit was such that it could win on certain material against a certain triode type that just happened to be in the Lampi at that particular time.
And that speaks pretty well for a DAC costing 24 times less. Well, I think so.
Bigman80
08-11-2017, 19:19
Really good thread this, I enjoyed reading it. Well done!
Thanks Oliver.
It is probably important to note I am hopelessly biased when it comes to valves versus solid state gear. With the Lampi in place the signal passes through 15 valves per channel, each valve type selected from a variety of alternatives over the years. That's a lot of fine tuning, which I mess around with mainly by rolling Lampi valves for variety, but I also change other ones in the chain too from time to time.
Sure I own solid state amps as well. And I do like what it can do, enjoying the contrast from time to time. But the amps and DAC I'm taking with me to the afterlife when my memorial pyramid is constructed will contain valves:D
You'll get a cardboard cutout and like it. Lol
cyclopse
08-11-2017, 20:07
Thanks Oliver.
It is probably important to note I am hopelessly biased when it comes to valves versus solid state gear. With the Lampi in place the signal passes through 15 valves per channel, each valve type selected from a variety of alternatives over the years. That's a lot of fine tuning, which I mess around with mainly by rolling Lampi valves for variety, but I also change other ones in the chain too from time to time.
Sure I own solid state amps as well. And I do like what it can do, enjoying the contrast from time to time. But the amps and DAC I'm taking with me to the afterlife when my memorial pyramid is constructed will contain valves:D
Did you get a valve display stand in the end to show off those unused valves? I used to be a valve guy but solid state done well has numerous attractions around power consumption, reliability, bass tightness and heat generation. No valves in my line up anymore.
montesquieu
08-11-2017, 20:13
So this DAC should have made it back to Tom's or may just still be on the way. Not sure.
Anyway, big thanks to Tom for the loan. It is always good fun trying new kit whatever the price level I think. This DAC surely shows a pretty decent DAC can be had for £250 odd. Would I buy one? The truth is I wouldn't personally as I just love the flexibility of valve based DACs purely due to their finetuneability (yes, there IS such a word;)).
In truth, towards the end of the loan, I listened to it less and less, as the novelty wore off. Why was this? Simply because I found the Lampi to be the better of the two subjectively on the large majority of material. But it is kind of sobering to think that the Lampi couldn't win on every single track I threw at both DACs. That the personality of the Schiit was such that it could win on certain material against a certain triode type that just happened to be in the Lampi at that particular time.
And that speaks pretty well for a DAC costing 24 times less. Well, I think so.
Yes it's back Justin, and plugged in once more to my study setup, where it takes a feed from a Trichord Genesis III CDP (tweaked Pioneer stable platter) and an Arcam iBlink bluetooth-SPDIF interface.
The study setup is for the most part relatively modest relative to the main rig ... also comprising a Pass B1 buffer pre (direct coupled version), a Leak Stereo 20 (though currently it's Duncan's 200w IRS2092 CLASS D as the Leak is out on loan) and a pair of Tannoy DC6'es. I also have a Garrard 401 / AT1010 and assorted low compliance cartridges ... mostly often a 1960s Ortofon SPU GTE into a Schiit Mani phono stage.
The Schiit Multibit transforms the iBlink as you'd expect. Things are a bit less clear cut against the Trichord's own analog output, but I prefer the Multibit, having a bit more all round juicyness, even through the toslink connection (the Arcam having only analog and spdif RCA output).
My study system is about tunes, tunes and more tunes - no critical listening allowed, or, indeed, entirely possible given the way the speakers are set up, high and not widely spaced, literally on bookshelves. The Garrard really comes into its own in this setup ... head to head in the main system against my TD124 it will always lose on subtlety and finesse, but in it's own terms it's a mega tune-maker, in fact a cheapo Shure SC35C gives the SPU a serious run-in the way things are set up here.
I guess I've sort accidentally fine-tuned this rig to deliver the sort of uncritical, non-hifi pleasure I used to get from playing Beethoven symphones and Bob Dylan albums in my teens on whatever I could afford at the time, while breeding out any nasties that would annoy the far more sensitive ears I have today ... and that's exactly what it gives me, a shed load of uncritical pleasure. For this requirement both the Multibit and the Mani do a super job. It's also handy to have backup gear that will genuinely hold its own in the main setup should that be temporarily required at any time.
Thanks for making the effort Justin, it's really nice to get some outside feedback, our respective tastes in music couldn't be further apart (when you came round to hear the Canterburys I was genuinely surprised to find they could even go that loud, or deep, though you did manage to uncover the resonant frequency of the floorboards!) but it's interesting our conclusions about kit are often similar.
You'll get a cardboard cutout and like it. Lol
Cheeky mofo!;):lol:
Did you get a valve display stand in the end to show off those unused valves? I used to be a valve guy but solid state done well has numerous attractions around power consumption, reliability, bass tightness and heat generation. No valves in my line up anymore.
No I never did. Couldn't find anything. It would only be for Lampi triodes, as my collection of 211s etc is huge.
Yes it's back Justin...
This forum should do more kit swapping between members, though it is made easier to trust people with this sort of thing when they have actually met.
Trust and risk are the biggest factors stopping it I guess.
pgarrish
11-11-2017, 16:59
Did you only stop listening to the schitt because you had the (preferable to you) lampi available? If the lampi wasn’t there would you be able to live with the schitt?
Did you only stop listening to the schitt because you had the (preferable to you) lampi available? If the lampi wasn’t there would you be able to live with the schitt?
Yes and yes. The Schiit would be good enough to tide me over for a week or two but I wouldn't live with it as a main source indefinitely. I'd still buy the Lampi.
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