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farflungstar
07-10-2017, 11:12
I have a question. I'm interested in buying a table from the states - it's 117v 60hz. Here is Spain the supply is 220v 50hz - how could I made it work? The Hz is the problem.

struth
07-10-2017, 11:41
May depend in what table it is. if it uses the hz to gauge speed then it will be although some can be fitted with a 50hz pulley

struth
07-10-2017, 11:51
or you could go nuts and get one of these

http://www.gohz.com/1kva-110v-60hz-to-220v-50hz-converter

hifi_dave
07-10-2017, 12:11
Which turntable is it ?

Some may be switched between different supplies and some may need a change of pulley wheel.

farflungstar
07-10-2017, 12:32
An oracle.

louie3
07-10-2017, 13:10
Oracles are made in Canada, as you probably know.

What you may not know is that Oracle is very customer friendly.

Go to their website and email them.

farflungstar
07-10-2017, 17:28
Have emailed them....

farflungstar
07-10-2017, 21:05
Ok so my bid was the winning bid and I'm now the proud owner (until it's shipped lol) of a mint condition Oracle Delphi mkiii.

I always wanted a Delphi - so this has been a long time coming. It's sooooo beautiful wth it's smokey green acrylic.

First problem is a step down transformer to 117v - next is the 60 to 50hz conversion - have emailed oracle so hopefully they will have a solution.

Any other suggestions from you guys regarding getting the best from this beautiful deck?

struth
07-10-2017, 21:09
Good luck on this. Brave buy.:)

farflungstar
07-10-2017, 21:29
Well it has the original boxes so presumably it will be packed as originally intended .,.. but I'm cacking it - just an adolescent dream I'd like to fulfill. Add it was quite cheap....

struth
07-10-2017, 21:59
That's most of the battle in posting tt's etc. Hope you can get a pulley

farflungstar
07-10-2017, 22:03
So it's got the box so no excuse. Surely oracle will have a solution - I'm waiting for their response but the auction finished tonight and my bid won. I guess worst case I buy a new motor unit.

Ammonite Audio
08-10-2017, 08:16
As far as I'm aware, most Oracles had/have DC motors, so this is probably a simple matter of just changing a mains transformer. What model is it?

ovlov854
08-10-2017, 10:12
[QUOTE=farflungstar;905329]Ok so my bid was the winning bid and I'm now the proud owner (until it's shipped lol) of a mint condition Oracle Delphi mkiii.

I always wanted a Delphi - so this has been a long time coming. It's sooooo beautiful wth it's smokey green acrylic.

First problem is a step down transformer to 117v - next is the 60 to 50hz conversion - have emailed oracle so hopefully they will have a solution.

Any other suggestions from you guys regarding getting the best from this beautiful deck?[/QUOTE
OOOOH an Oracle!! Always been my ultimate TT Green with envy:respect:
Presume you are going to put your new Reed on it??
Pics required ASAP

farflungstar
08-10-2017, 10:17
It's the Model 3, and the Reed will be going on the SP10. Not sure what arm I'll buy for the oracle...

Ammonite Audio
08-10-2017, 10:29
I have a new Jelco TK-850S coming shortly, to evaluate. Should be interesting because it’s much more solidly engineered where the Jelco 750 series arms are not!

hifi_dave
08-10-2017, 11:05
So it's got the box so no excuse. Surely oracle will have a solution - I'm waiting for their response but the auction finished tonight and my bid won. I guess worst case I buy a new motor unit.

What did you pay for it ?

I have an unused, boxed Oracle which I will be selling later in the year and it would be good to know a reasonable price.

farflungstar
08-10-2017, 11:08
Hmmm what model? I paid £680 MK 3.

hifi_dave
08-10-2017, 11:51
Thank you.

I think it's a Mk2 but will check when I get it out of storage.

I bought it from the customer's Wife along with an unused ARC SP8, Krell KSA100 and Maggies. The Wife wasn't pleased when he took that lot home and it helped cause their divorce. He never had time to use any of it, so the Oracle is in it's box exactly as I sold it to him, still has the shrink wrap on the perspex.

farflungstar
08-10-2017, 12:00
The MK3 has some subtle improvements over the 2 - even so I would have had it and not had to worry about step down transformers and pulleys!

What happened to the Krell?

hifi_dave
08-10-2017, 13:56
The Krell, ARC and Maggies were sold back in the 90s. I kept the Oracle because I planned to use it in a home system but never got around to it.

louie3
08-10-2017, 14:37
Adrian,

I have a Delphi 5-6 (6 platter and bearing, motor, motor controller). Sometimes it might take Oracle a couple of days to respond, depending on their travel and work load.

But they have always responded. Jacques even called me to help me wire up the upgraded motor controller assembly.

Just a suggestion, but when you get the table, take some time to read the set up instructions more than once. Its not a particularly complicated set up, but it will help to know what you need to do.

It had been some time since I had a suspended table so I took it slow, which seems a good idea.

I have tried a few different arms on my Delphi...a Graham 2.2, a Jelco/Sumiko FT4 and an SME 309. The SME seems to work and sound better. Since Oracle sells their version of the 309 with the table this does make some sense.

Good luck.

farflungstar
08-10-2017, 14:46
I'm kind of expecting set up to be a pain, I've not had a suspended turntable for a long time and the Delphi is known to be a ball ache. But this is a second deck, an indulgence - I'm happy to take my time, learn and hopefully get things right in the end.

Arm... Hmmmm again it will be an indulgence, maybe 12" sme, or 12" audio Technica - not sure yet.

Cart - god knows - moving coil, maybe kiseki or koetsu - don't know.

I'm also on the look out for a Leben cs660p so funds which be tight.

hifi_dave
08-10-2017, 15:07
I always found the Oracles to be fairly easy to set up and get the'bounce' just right. Far easier than some other suspended turntables. Thing is, it's a very well engineered and thought out design, not cobbled together in a shed.

Spectral Morn
08-10-2017, 15:26
I always found the Oracles to be fairly easy to set up and get the'bounce' just right. Far easier than some other suspended turntables. Thing is, it's a very well engineered and thought out design, not cobbled together in a shed.

The MK3 does not have the Brooks Berdan modification so will still have the movable rod system to balance the chassis to the arm weight. The mk 4 was the first Oracle to have that modification as part of the design via a curved weight under the platter. The motor is a Papst motor.

Set up is relatively easy, but requires patience and all the set up tools being available. Issues with the mk3 damaged platter mat, its sticky. The peripheral damping ring can go gooey, its rubber. The mk4 did away with the rubber peripheral damping ring and sticky mat for a hard one.

Sorry I missed this thread, my advice would have been don't buy a mk1, 2 or 3 but save your pennies for a mk4.

I agree with Dave an SME is the best choice, though I have tried an Eminent Technology ET2 tonearm, Graham 2.2, and Well Tempered. The ET2 was fabulous on it.

My other advice would be deal with Oracle directly, when it comes to buying spares, getting upgrades etc. If you want it upgraded with some of the mk7 upgrades sent it back to Oracle, don't let anyone else touch it but them.

I used to have a Delphi mk4, and a pile of spares, MK4 bearing, mk4 platter, spare lid, hinges, belts etc. I still have an armboard I made for the Delphi for an ET2 and 3 mk4 suspension towers, but that's it. Everything else went with the deck when I moved it on. If you want to know where it went and all the spares pm me and I will tell you, they might still be available.

farflungstar
08-10-2017, 17:24
The MK3 does not have the Brooks Berdan modification so will still have the movable rod system to balance the chassis to the arm weight. The mk 4 was the first Oracle to have that modification as part of the design via a curved weight under the platter. The motor is a Papst motor.

Set up is relatively easy, but requires patience and all the set up tools being available. Issues with the mk3 damaged platter mat, its sticky. The peripheral damping ring can go gooey, its rubber. The mk4 did away with the rubber peripheral damping ring and sticky mat for a hard one.

Sorry I missed this thread, my advice would have been don't buy a mk1, 2 or 3 but save your pennies for a mk4.

I agree with Dave an SME is the best choice, though I have tried an Eminent Technology ET2 tonearm, Graham 2.2, and Well Tempered. The ET2 was fabulous on it.

My other advice would be deal with Oracle directly, when it comes to buying spares, getting upgrades etc. If you want it upgraded with some of the mk7 upgrades sent it back to Oracle, don't let anyone else touch it but them.

I used to have a Delphi mk4, and a pile of spares, MK4 bearing, mk4 platter, spare lid, hinges, belts etc. I still have an armboard I made for the Delphi for an ET2 and 3 mk4 suspension towers, but that's it. Everything else went with the deck when I moved it on. If you want to know where it went and all the spares pm me and I will tell you, they might still be available.

Oh dear - are you saying I've bought a dud? Actually the seller has said the original mat is available but useless. An isomat is provided (I use one with the tenuto). What you say about the rim is a little worrying...

farflungstar
08-10-2017, 18:17
Tried messaging you dalek but your inbox is full.

louie3
08-10-2017, 19:11
The most trying part of set up for me was getting the blankety blank belt installed. The process seems straightforward, but it was not for me...at least the first couple of times I had to do it. Again, slow and steady wins the race.

The Delphi Six platter I have generally eliminates that problem. Oracle makes a little tool that helps...I think it comes with the table, but did not come with mine.

The original Delphi Five platter bearing got out of adjustment causing a slight wobble in the platter. I solved the problem by buying the Six platter and bearing.

But, I still have the Five platter and bearing. The platter has the hard mat mentioned above. Oracle can adjust the bearing, but I was in a hurry so I elected to buy the Six platter and bearing.

Point being, I would be happy to give you my Five platter and bearing as long as you understand it should be sent back to Oracle for adjustment and so forth.

I have no use for it. If you are interested, let me know.

The Delphi has a long upgrade path so that with one exception, your table can be brought current (for a price, of course) and most of the upgrades are user installable. The one exception is the micro vibration damper system, which requires the whole table to be shipped back to Oracle for drilling and installation.

You have a good table, or better than good, and it can be upgraded to super if you chose that path.

Spectral Morn
08-10-2017, 19:16
Tried messaging you dalek but your inbox is full.

Cleared - sorry.

farflungstar
08-10-2017, 19:51
The most trying part of set up for me was getting the blankety blank belt installed. The process seems straightforward, but it was not for me...at least the first couple of times I had to do it. Again, slow and steady wins the race.

The Delphi Six platter I have generally eliminates that problem. Oracle makes a little tool that helps...I think it comes with the table, but did not come with mine.

The original Delphi Five platter bearing got out of adjustment causing a slight wobble in the platter. I solved the problem by buying the Six platter and bearing.

But, I still have the Five platter and bearing. The platter has the hard mat mentioned above. Oracle can adjust the bearing, but I was in a hurry so I elected to buy the Six platter and bearing.

Point being, I would be happy to give you my Five platter and bearing as long as you understand it should be sent back to Oracle for adjustment and so forth.

I have no use for it. If you are interested, let me know.

The Delphi has a long upgrade path so that with one exception, your table can be brought current (for a price, of course) and most of the upgrades are user installable. The one exception is the micro vibration damper system, which requires the whole table to be shipped back to Oracle for drilling and installation.

You have a good table, or better than good, and it can be upgraded to super if you chose that path.That's a very generous offer Louie. I might take you up on the offer - I can see this is going to be a long road....