Technics SP10 MK2 nearly ready!!!!

[Bigman80]

Well, I am two days away from going to collect my new to me SP10. The fella who is making it up for me (new power supply, serviced motor parts etc) it's basically being rebuilt from the bottom up.

Panzerholz plinth, sexy feet lol. I'm getting a bit excited. Thankfully, after begging for some pics, some have arrived with more to follow tomorrow!!!

Thought I'd share.



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[Boyse6748]

Looks like it’s going to be lovely deck !!!!

Me too getting excited, not the same deck but a Denon DP80. Acrylic / Panzerholz / Lead / MDF combo.

Arm is the Dynavector DV507 MkII + Benz Wood.

However some weeks to wait [emoji33][emoji33][emoji33][emoji33][emoji33]

Would be nice to have a side by side comparison... LOL.

Mind you..... no guarantee mine will work as expected, but hopeful.

What arm have you chosen?????

Peter


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[RobbieGong]

Gonna be a stunner to your lugs Oliver, wood plinth and the Audio Technica AT 1010 tonearm too! You're in for a treat :)

[struth]

nice mill :eyebrows:

sure it will be grand

[Bigman80]

Looks like it’s going to be lovely deck !!!!

Me too getting excited, not the same deck but a Denon DP80. Acrylic / Panzerholz / Lead / MDF combo.

Arm is the Dynavector DV507 MkII + Benz Wood.

However some weeks to wait [emoji33][emoji33][emoji33][emoji33][emoji33]

Would be nice to have a side by side comparison... LOL.

Mind you..... no guarantee mine will work as expected, but hopeful.

What arm have you chosen?????

Peter


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Peter,

I've had a modded by Phonomac Audio Technica 1010 tonearm. It's a package with the SP10. All done by the same guy, Angus (Phonomac) I'd love a DD TT face off lol, I think we will both be VERY happy.

Robbie,

I can't wait mate. I'm very excited and I'm going to hear some of his Sansui gear too. Happy days!

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[RobbieGong]

Lol, Well chuffed for you Oliver.
If I ever went another route it would always have been just as you've done it, a properly overhauled sp10 Mk2 via The Mac.
I'm too happly with my Techie to go there though.

[Bigman80]

Lol, Well chuffed for you Oliver.
If I ever went another route it would always have been just as you've done it, a properly overhauled sp10 Mk2 via The Mac.
I'm too happly with my Techie to go there though.Yes, he's a very talented guy. You should know lol.

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[Dubster68]

Will look amazing once done.

[Bigman80]

Will look amazing once done.Fingers crossed!!!

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[alcarmichael]

Wow! That looks like it's going to be very nice indeed.

[Bigman80]

Wow! That looks like it's going to be very nice indeed.[emoji38][emoji38][emoji38]

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[alcarmichael]

I keep looking at this, even in its incomplete state it's really increasing my desire for an SP10.

[Bigman80]

I keep looking at this, even in its incomplete state it's really increasing my desire for an SP10.Alex, I can't wait. Genuinely excited and Angus is a top class guy with a lot of talent. He's on the forum, have a chat with him. You never know, he may have one knocking about!

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[RobbieGong]

I keep looking at this, even in its incomplete state it's really increasing my desire for an SP10.

I sense this and the announcement of the SP10R have rekindled a number of peoples desire to go SP10 and I can understand that.
Never heard one but I'm in no doubt for a number of reasons that they are a great deck - even toyed with the idea briefly myself, SP10MK2 overhauled, same route as Oliver but I wont be going there, because I dont need to.

As I say, I predict a few new SP10 users - Marco included in the near future, just a prediction mind... ;) :D

[Bigman80]

I sense this and the announcement of the SP10R have rekindled a number of peoples desire to go SP10 and I can understand that.
Never heard one but I'm in no doubt for a number of reasons that they are a great deck - even toyed with the idea briefly myself, SP10MK2 overhauled, same route as Oliver but I wont be going there, because I dont need to.

As I say, I predict a few new SP10 users - Marco included in the near future, just a prediction mind... ;) :DI'm just glad I decided to do it before they announced the new SP10. prices will rise I fear and price a lot of people out of owning one.

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[Bigman80]

MY SP10!!!!! Being calibrated prior to having the plinth painted black and having the feet fitted.

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[alcarmichael]

Alex, I can't wait. Genuinely excited and Angus is a top class guy with a lot of talent. He's on the forum, have a chat with him. You never know, he may have one knocking about!

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I've met Angus, a lovely guy. He set me up with my first turntable after selling me a Micro Seiki MA 202 arm. I pointed Robbie in Angus' direction when he bought the same arm.

At this moment in time I'm not in a position to spend much money on hifi equipment though :(

[Bigman80]

I've met Angus, a lovely guy. He set me up with my first turntable after selling me a Micro Seiki MA 202 arm. I pointed Robbie in Angus' direction when he bought the same arm.

At this moment in time I'm not in a position to spend much money on hifi equipment though :(Yes, it seems like the man has kept a very low profile but that's over now lol.

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[RobbieGong]

As well as a top guy, Angus is a humble, rare breed A1 tech and has done me good thats for sure, the Micro Seiki MA202 is lovely, The Phonomaced Sansui AU 919 is a stunner - seriously !

He doesnt shout about himself but I sense his fame has spread plenty now and I wanted him all to myself - you're a bad man Olly :lol:

Yes Oliver, That SP10 is exactly how I'd have done it - big fan of the sonic rightness of wood and the AT1010 tonearm would be the one too. Only thing is I'd have gone black to match my set up.

Cant wait til you set it up properly and give us your musings on it's sonic prowess :)

[Bigman80]

As well as a top guy, Angus is a humble, rare breed A1 tech and has done me good thats for sure, the Micro Seiki MA202 is lovely, The Phonomaced Sansui AU 919 is a stunner - seriously !

He doesnt shout about himself but I sense his fame has spread plenty now and I wanted him all to myself - you're a bad man Olly [emoji38]

Yes Oliver, That SP10 is exactly how I'd have done it - big fan of the sonic rightness of wood and the AT1010 tonearm would be the one too. Only thing is I'd have gone black to match my set up.

Cant wait til you set it up properly and give us your musings on it's sonic prowess :)Ha, yes Robbie, I am a bad man hahaha. It'll look great once the plinth is painted black. I think it's gonna be a really wise purchase.

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[Macca]

I suspect that is going to be a fantastically good deck. You'll have to bring it up to the next MiBO so we can all have a listen.

[Bigman80]

I suspect that is going to be a fantastically good deck. You'll have to bring it up to the next MiBO so we can all have a listen.Cheers, Macca.

I will do my best to bring it to the MiBo. It'd be good to see how it does whilst surrounded be high quality gear.

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[struth]

what cart are you putting it Oliver ? gettin as excited as you here lol

[mikeyb]

I must be in the minority, I don't like the look of a round arm mount and the square deck. Looks odd to me sorry.

Be good once done but will still look odd to me

[Bigman80]

what cart are you putting it Oliver ? gettin as excited as you here lolWell, unfortunately I don't have any funds to go "All out" at this time so the ZYX R50 will be going on it for now. I have an eye out for an Ortofon Vienna but whether that is gonna happen is another thing.



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[Bigman80]

I must be in the minority, I don't like the look of a round arm mount and the square deck. Looks odd to me sorry.

Be good once done but will still look odd to meCheers Mikey, I can't unsee that now!

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[mikeyb]

Well, unfortunately I don't have any funds to go "All out" at this time so the ZYX R50 will be going on it for now. I have an eye out for an Ortofon Vienna but whether that is gonna happen is another thing.



Sent from my EVA-L09 using TapatalkJust an r50, aye that's a bummer right enough [emoji23]

[Bigman80]

Just an r50, aye that's a bummer right enough [emoji23]Ye I know, hardly problematic is it hahaha.

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[mikeyb]

Cheers Mikey, I can't unsee that now!

🤣

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[Bigman80]

Ah no sorry, didn't mean to do that, it was just my view on it [emoji17]No I'm kidding, Mikey! Just pulling your leg. I like it, reminds me of its broadcast roots for some reason. I do have a square mount available to me to with a smidgen of fettling but I like it as is.

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[struth]

Just an r50, aye that's a bummer right enough [emoji23]

was gonna say:D

[mikeyb]

No I'm kidding, Mikey! Just pulling your leg. I like it, reminds me of its broadcast roots for some reason. I do have a square mount available to me to with a smidgen of fettling but I like it as is.

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[Bigman80]

Ah ya bugger, hook line and sinker [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]. The power of text lol.



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[karma67]

looks very nice mate,i love a bit of panzerholz! :)

[Bigman80]

Cheers Jamie, to say I'm excited is an understatement!

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[RobbieGong]

Cheers Jamie, to say I'm excited is an understatement!

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Oh yes ! Hi fidelity and the anticipation that often goes with it is very exciting.

What would be exciting while were on the subject would be hearing yours and a properly modded 12XX, through the same system.

Now that would be great. Not necessarily about which would be 'better' but to literally access what is heard and how similar or different they might be ;)

[Bigman80]

Oh yes ! Hi fidelity and the anticipation that often goes with it is very exciting.

What would be exciting while were on the subject would be hearing yours and a properly modded 12XX, through the same system.

Now that would be great. Not necessarily about which would be 'better' but to literally access what is heard and how similar or different they might be ;)

I'd definitely be up for that Robbie. It would be good to see how far the money spent really goes between the two. Shame you're so far away!

[Bigman80]

Here's the last pic before I collect tomorrow. So excited and I have to say, what fantastic craftsmanship.

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[walpurgis]

Looks good Oliver. What's the arm, Audio Technica?

[Bigman80]

Looks good Oliver. What's the arm, Audio Technica?Yes Geoff, a Phonomac fettled AT-1010. It's quite simply superb. Had one on the Toshy (now sold and Collected) for about a month and it's really been an eye-opening experience. Can't wait to see how it sounds in the SP10

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[Bigman80]

The Phonomac AT-1010 on the Toshy. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171008/b2f6b0539cc52ea6ab78080eac3b4a33.jpg

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[walpurgis]

Nice! :)

[RobbieGong]

Yes Geoff, a Phonomac fettled AT-1010. It's quite simply superb. Had one on the Toshy (now sold and Collected) for about a month and it's really been an eye-opening experience. Can't wait to see how it sounds in the SP10

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That combo will be awesome. You'll get some serious insight into your vinyl replay

[Boyse6748]

That just looks fabulous.
Are they coupled inverted cone feet? I’m a bit surprised you didn’t go for magnetic levitation feet to get a bit more isolation.


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[Bigman80]

That just looks fabulous.
Are they coupled inverted cone feet? I’m a bit surprised you didn’t go for magnetic levitation feet to get a bit more isolation.


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They are! I haven't got the funds available for levitation feet and these were offered at the time of discussing the build with Angus. I presume he had them from a previous project and I'm happy to have them. One day, maybe I'll change them up but there is a thread developing on these feet on the forum with very good isolation reported.

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[Boyse6748]

I’m sure they will work just fine and Angus obviously knows how they work.[emoji7] (there are also some very good reports written on these feet)
I’m also struggling with the rising cost of the Denon plinth but have bit the bullet and gone for the Magnetic Levitation feet, as I understand they offer almost total isolation and still cheaper than the extortionately expensive Townshend Seismic Pods.


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[farflungstar]

I'd be interested to know how it sounds in a minimal plinth - mines in 60kg of plinth and often thought about trying a less is more approach.

[Bigman80]

Well guys, the feet are a blow out. They couple directly to my plywood shelf and I get the most amount of noise transference from tapping shelf. So, isanoe or levitation feet are definitely the way to go. I suppose putting some dynamat on the shelf would solve it too.

Sound wise, it's so clean and precise it's unreal. I am extremely impressed. Angus's theory on the plinth is quite clever too, less mass means it takes less time for vibration (if any) to dissipate. Seems to work just fine!!!

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[Boyse6748]

Oh bugger, sorry to hear the inverted cone feet don’t do the job. I know I’ve already suggested the Magnetic Levitation Feet but how about swapping out your plywood top shelf for say.... 30mm Welsh Blue Slate... a cheaper option to try..... and if it don’t work, it can only look better[emoji41]

Sorry , but don’t rate the Isanoe Supports based on previous trials.


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[walpurgis]

The TT is nice.

But I'm not entirely surprised at this:


Well guys, the feet are a blow out. They couple directly to my plywood shelf and I get the most amount of noise transference from tapping shelf. So, isanoe or levitation feet are definitely the way to go. I suppose putting some dynamat on the shelf would solve it too

I think the shelf is possibly more to blame than the feet. Why not consider a shelf that is acoustically dead, or at least as dead as you can get it?

Two sheets of stiff ply, spaced with small glued in blocks leaving a cavity of maybe half an inch, edges sealed with batons of course. Then the cavity filled with dried sand. I'd choose Leighton Buzzard sand for its irregular shaped and sized stone grains. You'd need a plugged hole for this of course.

That ain't gonna resonate! :)

You'd need strong shelf mounts though.

[Bigman80]

Was thinking of putting some sound deadening sheet I've got on top until I decide what to do.

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[CageyH]

Funk Bo!ng feet?

[struth]

would agree, it will probably be the shelf being slightly alive. feet wont be helping. The levitating ones only isolate in 1 dimension

[Bigman80]

Great point, Grant. I think Isonoe may be the way forward but I'd need some hefty versions!

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[Macca]

If you're not tapping the shelf while listening to a record I don't see there is a problem. Nothing that happens in normal use will replicate that effect.

[Bigman80]

Just worried about resonance as it's quite close to the speakers

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[Boyse6748]

Yes indeed Grant...... downwards only (into the shelf). the Slate shelf will cost you less that £50 and if the correct Blue Slate......it is very dead indeed. (the devils material)


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[Macca]

Just worried about resonance as it's quite close to the speakers

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Some acoustic feedback is inevitable unless you put deck and speakers in different rooms and then you might find you don't like the subjective effect of having zero acoustic feedback...A cartridge is effectively a microphone. Even if you use a chunk of armour plate from the Bismark for a shelf you can't get round that.

Won't hurt to beef up the shelf I suppose but if it is already sounding clean and precise it doesn't seem like you have a problem to me.

[farflungstar]

I get the tiniest bit of feedback from the granite table, and even less from the plinth. Zero from the sp10 itself. Use a stethoscope you check - cheap on eBay.

[Macca]

I get the tiniest bit of feedback from the granite table, and even less from the plinth. Zero from the sp10 itself. Use a stethoscope you check - cheap on eBay.

And when you've done that you can wear it round the house and pretend to be 'Doctor At Large'. IME most women have a thing for Doctors.

[Bigman80]

And when you've done that you can wear it round the house and pretend to be 'Doctor At Large'. IME most women have a thing for Doctors.Hahahaha, quality.

Gonna stick a bit of sound deadening on for now. Got some in the garage, no cost option for now. Angus did prewarn me that the shelf could be a problem.

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[Boyse6748]

Nearest and Dearest Friends a !!!!!! A true resolve is Townshend Seismic Pods. you have got the ultimate deck / plinth combination ... now get the ultimate supports.[emoji41]

Peter..... I will say no more !!


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[Bigman80]

Nearest and Dearest Friends a !!!!!! A true resolve is Townshend Seismic Pods. you have got the ultimate deck / plinth combination ... now get the ultimate supports.[emoji41]

Peter..... I will say no more !!


Sent from my iPad using TapatalkHaha, I'll have a look

Looked.....behave!!! £100 each[emoji32]

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[Boyse6748]

£89 each .... is it not worth it? For the ultimate deck? ( I have seen a set of 4 for £256 on eBay.)

Magnetic Levitation about half that cost.


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[walpurgis]

Cheaper to try some hefty Sorbothane feet. I find they work well.

[karma67]

theres only one thing to do ollie,youv'e just gotta sell ya ass,the first times the worst i hear,then after that you begin to like it!

[Boyse6748]

As I said before..... there is nothing quite like true friends advice[emoji7]


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[Bigman80]

Hahaha, i know what you're saying boyse but it just aint gonna happen. The wife nearly had an aneurysm over the TT itself !!! Soborthane feet are as good as anything ive tried so far so maybe an isolation platform or similar going forward for now. Got the sound deadening sheet under and thats made a huge difference. Not ultimate quietness but much much better

Jamie, Id have to pay them mate :D

[CageyH]

Sound Damped Steel Isofeet?
If they were not so heavy, I would lend you a set to try under your feet, but they basically work on constrained layer damping.

As already mentioned, you don't bang the shelf when listening to the deck so if you can't hear it get on with enjoying the deck. Other alternatives which are cheap is to put it on a thick chopping block, use half squash balls or granite mats.
Completely up to you, but a decent set of feet is probably a small price to pay on top of what you have already spent.

[Bigman80]

Sound Damped Steel Isofeet?
If they were not so heavy, I would lend you a set to try under your feet, but they basically work on constrained layer damping.

As already mentioned, you don't bang the shelf when listening to the deck so if you can't hear it get on with enjoying the deck. Other alternatives which are cheap is to put it on a thick chopping block, use half squash balls or granite mats.
Completely up to you, but a decent set of feet is probably a small price to pay on top of what you have already spent.

I'll experiment and there's already a big improvement with the mat there. Feet are one for the future.

[Bigman80]

Mat in place.

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[Boyse6748]

Oh how I can appreciate the wife’s view [emoji7] please do what ever is good for you both !!!!!

Do not not listen to the so called hi-Fi aficionados....... for they will mess with your brain!!!

My wife passed on some years back..... and I wish she were here now to advise or even grumble about my system.

Be happy my friend....... and just enjoy.[emoji41]

Boysey. ( I’ll let you know how the Denon Sounds.... in the weeks to come)


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[Bigman80]

Oh how I can appreciate the wife’s view [emoji7] please do what ever is good for you both !!!!!

Do not not listen to the so called hi-Fi aficionados....... for they will mess with your brain!!!

My wife passed on some years back..... and I wish she were here now to advise or even grumble about my system.

Be happy my friend....... and just enjoy.[emoji41]

Boysey. ( I’ll let you know how the Denon Sounds.... in the weeks to come)


Sent from my iPad using TapatalkSorry to hear that Boyse, I'd be lost without mine.

I pushed the boat out as far as I could financially but the seismic feet are just out of reach. In time, maybe I can but not yet.

I am looking forward to seeing how you get on with the Denon. It should be fabulous.

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[Boyse6748]

I’m really pleased the mat has made a difference.

My advice remains the same... option 1 is still the Welsh Blue Slate base.... ( cheapest option).

Second is the Magnetic Levitation feet... third is the Townshend Seismic Pods ( most expensive).

Do what you can when funds permit!!!

I am changing my TT from the Rock 7 to the Denon DP80 for a reason,,,, as I have never had any other TT than the Townshend for the last 50 Years........ and need to try something different.

If it works..... fab,,,, if not , I know that time has not been wasted.

I appreciate your endeavours with the SP10...... as it is a very fine deck indeed!,,

Only time will tell???? I know what good sounds like...... however many will disagree

Peter




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[Dubster68]

Looks good Oliver hope it sounds amazing. The issues you had with the feet as mentioned will not be helped by the plywood. I had a play around and used a thick piece of Oak and I get nothing at all back through the turntable. I dont know it the 1210s rubber base helps the cause on mine.
The feet suit your turntable though:D

[Bigman80]

Looks good Oliver hope it sounds amazing. The issues you had with the feet as mentioned will not be helped by the plywood. I had a play around and used a thick piece of granite and I get nothing at all back through the turntable. I dont know it the 1210s rubber base helps the cause on mine.
The feet suit your turntable though:DPossibly. I'll be looking at less expensive options than seismic feet but the mat has helped. I'll play more tomorrow.

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[Bigman80]

Update:

Initial listening has convinced me that the mat is making a significant difference. Lower noise floor, tightness and much better decay. So im convinced there is little resonance now. So to be sure I've doubled up slightly.

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[montesquieu]

Yes Geoff, a Phonomac fettled AT-1010. It's quite simply superb. Had one on the Toshy (now sold and Collected) for about a month and it's really been an eye-opening experience. Can't wait to see how it sounds in the SP10



My AT1010 is stock but also came from Phonomac (in a round about way), though it has a collar for the counterweight that allows it to take SPU-weight cartridges.

I run it on my Garrard and it's lovely. I think some of the early reviews that are kicking around misunderstood it and used it with cartridges that were too compliant .. it's really a proper medium mass arm, so wouldn't have been ideal with many of the new-fangled high compliance ones that were becoming popular when it was released. It's much more in its element these days and a better partner to newer cartridges that it would have been back in its hey day.

[Bigman80]

My AT1010 is stock but also came from Phonomac (in a round about way), though it has a collar for the counterweight that allows it to take SPU-weight cartridges.

I run it on my Garrard and it's lovely. I think some of the early reviews that are kicking around misunderstood it and used it with cartridges that were too compliant .. it's really a proper medium mass arm, so wouldn't have been ideal with many of the new-fangled high compliance ones that were becoming popular when it was released. It's much more in its element these days and a better partner to newer cartridges that it would have been back in its hey day.There were plans to hear a stock version of the arm yesterday but unfortunately it never happened. I am exceeding pleased with my Phonomac version. I thought it really outperformed any other arm I have personally heard. So I bought one. Stunning arm.

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[montesquieu]

I get the tiniest bit of feedback from the granite table, and even less from the plinth. Zero from the sp10 itself. Use a stethoscope you check - cheap on eBay.

Yes I got one off ebay as well. Great for breeding out noise in an idler like the TD124.

[Bigman80]

Yes I got one off ebay as well. Great for breeding out noise in an idler like the TD124.That's a bit "next level" for me [emoji23]

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[farflungstar]

That's a bit "next level" for me [emoji23]

Sent from my EVA-L09 using TapatalkDon't worry - there is (or should be) zero noise from the sp's plinth or any plinth you put it into - it's a true silent runner.

[Bigman80]

It is incredibly quiet. Very impressive design. Can't say anything negative so far. The sound is fantastic. So clear and well defined.

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[farflungstar]

It's called absolute pitch/speed stability and zero smearing of transient leading edges.

[Bigman80]

It's called absolute pitch/speed stability and zero smearing of transient leading edges.I like it. It's really excellent. I was worried about spending the money as it's taken ages and I had to sell the Toshiba but it's been a huge success.

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[Macca]

Very serious bit of engineering the SP10. They didn't muck about with the flagship stuff in Japan in those days. No corners cut. No frippery or bling either. It would be my first choice if I was going back into vinyl. With a Terminator linear tracking arm. I'm a little bit envious :)

[farflungstar]

The SP10 is very very very hard to beat by any currently available decks. It provides you with the perfect base from which to upgrade arms and carts and in that respect (neutrality, pitch) is a reference. Only my opinion of course.

[Bigman80]

Very serious bit of engineering the SP10. They didn't muck about with the flagship stuff in Japan in those days. No corners cut. No frippery or bling either. It would be my first choice if I was going back into vinyl. With a Terminator linear tracking arm. I'm a little bit envious :)It's a good piece. I'm completely shocked at just how good it is. Must give a nod to Angus. He's basically made it from parts, a "Frankenstein" if you will.

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[Bigman80]

The SP10 is very very very hard to beat by any currently available decks. It provides you with the perfect base from which to upgrade arms and carts and in that respect (neutrality, pitch) is a reference. Only my opinion of course.I can only imagine this TT would be capable of Getting the best out of any arm or cart.

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[RobbieGong]

Yep, Well known that the SP10 from birth was a serious / genuine audiophile turntable in stock form. That was the clear intent from Technics

[farflungstar]

If you want to improve it further and take it to sp10mk3 status buy a tenuto mat from guy at pure sound. I think it made a slight improvement to stability on mine.

[oldius]

A wonderful deck. I used a speed check app last night on my So y TTS8000 and it never shifted from exactly 33.3 RPM. The high end Japanese decks of the period had fabulous engineering yet we were told they were average!

[Bigman80]

Yep, Well known that the SP10 from birth was a serious / genuine audiophile turntable in stock form. That was the clear intent from TechnicsYou aren't wrong mate. It's a beast!! Heard the Sansui yesterday too. A fantastic piece of Japanese engineering.

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[Bigman80]

A wonderful deck. I used a speed check app last night on my So y TTS8000 and it never shifted from exactly 33.3 RPM. The high end Japanese decks of the period had fabulous engineering yet we were told they were average!They are a marvel. The only TT I'd have considered other than the SP10 was the TTS-8000. BUT as you know, they never come up for sale.

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[RobbieGong]

You aren't wrong mate. It's a beast!! Heard the Sansui yesterday too. A fantastic piece of Japanese engineering.

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Which Sansui Oliver ? The AU-919 or his own Sansui AU-D11ii ? either of those two are as you say 'fantastic' - proper true hi fidelity integrated amps

[Bigman80]

Which Sansui Oliver ? The AU-919 or his own Sansui AU-D11ii ? either of those two are as you say 'fantastic' - proper true hi fidelity integrated ampsThe AU-D11. What a wonderful creation. My Jolida phonostage sounded epic through it.

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[2kings]

I have 2 - an original SL1000 mk2 with EPA100 arm and a DIY slate plinth with EPA250 arm.
Also a Sony TTS8000 with PUA9 arm.
All 3 are for keeps :)
http://theartofsound.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=21579&d=1507659081
http://theartofsound.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=21578&d=1507659044
http://theartofsound.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=21576&d=1507658584

[RobbieGong]

The AU-D11. What a wonderful creation. My Jolida phonostage sounded epic through it.

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I bet it did! The D11 is said to be warmer the 919 is 'pure' so to speak - plays what you give it.

Back to the decks - SP10 and a fully modded 12XX like mine, Marco's, Andys and others would be an insightful listen mi reckons ;)

[Bigman80]

I bet it did! The D11 is said to be warmer the 919 is 'pure' so to speak - plays what you give it.

Back to the decks - SP10 and a fully modded 12XX like mine, Marco's, Andys and others would be an insightful listen mi reckons ;)I think we need a get together in the Midlands area !!!!

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[2kings]

They are a marvel. The only TT I'd have considered other than the SP10 was the TTS-8000. BUT as you know, they never come up for sale.

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You missed it - I sold another TTS8000 just last year and it went to HongKong!.
http://theartofsound.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=21582&d=1507660107

[Bigman80]

You missed it - I sold another TTS8000 just last year and it went to HongKong!.
http://theartofsound.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=21582&d=1507660107I wouldn't have been able to buy it last year so it obviously wasn't the direction I was supposed to go in. This SP10 was only viable due to circumstances out of my control so.......thanks to those universal powers.

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[Bigman80]

I have 2 - an original SL1000 mk2 with EPA100 arm and a DIY slate plinth with EPA250 arm.
Also a Sony TTS8000 with PUA9 arm.
All 3 are for keeps :)
http://theartofsound.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=21579&d=1507659081
http://theartofsound.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=21578&d=1507659044
http://theartofsound.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=21576&d=1507658584Show off [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Seriously. You are very lucky and have excellent taste lol

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[Bigman80]

If you want to improve it further and take it to sp10mk3 status buy a tenuto mat from guy at pure sound. I think it made a slight improvement to stability on mine.I heard a tenuto mat at Angus's and yes, I will be buying one as soon as I can afford one!!!! I'll have spent nearly £2k this weekend and the wife has one bag already packed lol.

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[2kings]

Show off [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Seriously. You are very lucky and have excellent taste lol

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My wife calls it "compulsive obsession'!
Seriously I just cannot stop buying SP10mk2s!!
I have another 3 under my bed waiting for some TLC :)

[2kings]

I wouldn't have been able to buy it last year so it obviously wasn't the direction I was supposed to go in. This SP10 was only viable due to circumstances out of my control so.......thanks to those universal powers.

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Patience is virtue...good things come to those who wait patiently :)

[2kings]

I heard a tenuto mat at Angus's and yes, I will be buying one as soon as I can afford one!!!! I'll have spent nearly £2k this weekend and the wife has one bag already packed lol.

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I have a Micro Seiki CU180 cooper mat on the SL1000mk2 and it sure improved the sound quality.

[Bigman80]

I have a Micro Seiki CU180 cooper mat on the SL1000mk2 and it sure improved the sound quality.Oooh I bet it's no cheaper or easier to find lok

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[2kings]

Oooh I bet it's no cheaper or easier to find lok

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Took me a looong time to obtain one but prices have skyrocketed in the past year. They are now fetching silly money!

[Bigman80]

Took me a looong time to obtain one but prices have skyrocketed in the past year. They are now fetching silly money!Yep. I'll stick to my leather platter mat for now. May stretch to an acrylic one lol

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[2kings]

This one is undergoing restoration.
Oxidation under the lacquer resulted in the lacquer peeling off.
So a complete sand down and had the top plate anodised so looking like original.
Thought of giving it a tint but decided against it.
http://theartofsound.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=21583&d=1507662065

[Bigman80]

This one is undergoing restoration.
Oxidation under the lacquer resulted in the lacquer peeling off.
So a complete sand down and had the top plate anodised so looking like original.
Thought of giving it a tint but decided against it.
http://theartofsound.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=21583&d=1507662065Crazy isn't it. Restoring copper platter mats and such. That's why this hobby is so interesting!!

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[farflungstar]

What arm are you using with it?

[Bigman80]

What arm are you using with it?Me? - A Phonomac Audio Technica AT-1010

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[farflungstar]

Me? - A Phonomac Audio Technica AT-1010

Sent from my EVA-L09 using TapatalkI thought it might be. Looking good and a good match with the SP10.

[Bigman80]

I thought it might be. Looking good and a good match with the SP10.Its fantastic. I wrote a review a few weeks back but refrained from posting due to wanting to see how it was to live with. All I will say at the minute is......... outstanding.

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[TheMooN]

I have an unused and complete with original box SL1000 MKII / EPA 100, the arm boards are untouched, I keep meaning to set this Vinyl rig up then go, Nah not this year.

[2kings]

What are you waiting for????:scratch:

[TheMooN]

The Will to get off of my Butt Joe, and the kinda fundimental lack of a phono stage :)

[2kings]

:lol::lol::lol:
I know that feeling!!
I need to shift a lot of gears but the thought of having to drag them out from the storeroom or under the beds put me off!!
:)

[Zoidburg]

That's a stunning looking deck & arm you have there Oli.

Bravo Sir, well played indeed.

[Bigman80]

That's a stunning looking deck & arm you have there Oli.

Bravo Sir, well played indeed.Thank you Ben. It's really been a revelation.

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[Marco]

Love this to bits, Joe:

http://theartofsound.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=21576&d=1507658584

For me, that's a better looking turntable than your Technics. Don't know about sound, though!

Is the cartridge also a Sony, or just the headshell? If it's the former, which cartridge is it? :)

Marco.

[Bigman80]

[emoji41]

[Marco]

Who's Joe????? [emoji38]


Lol - now I'm confused... Is the Sony T/T shown in my last post yours or 2kings (Joe's)?

Marco.

[Bigman80]

Lol - now I'm confused... Is the Sony T/T shown in my last post yours or 2kings (Joe's)?

Marco.Ah! I can't see a picture in your post hence the confusion!

My bad

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[Marco]

There's a very clear picture in my post #122, daftee, showing said Sony T/T ;)

Iz yoo blind, boy? :D

Marco.

[mikeyb]

There's a very clear picture in my post #122, daftee, showing said Sony T/T ;)

Iz yoo blind? :D

Marco.

'fraid I see no TT either

[Marco]

Weird... Can you see the same Sony T/T in posts #97 and #102?

Marco.

[struth]

i see it. its also on 97 and 100

[mikeyb]

Weird... Can you see the same Sony T/T in posts #97 and #102?

Marco.

unfortunately no :scratch:

[mikeyb]

i see it. its also on 97 and 100

can't see anything on #100 either

[Marco]

What about post #97, which was the post of Joe's where the T/T originally appeared?

Marco.

[vinylspinner]

Can't see any Sony in any post, both on the iPad and on the pc.

[oldius]

I cannot see any Sony TT pictures either.

[mikeyb]

On tapatalk I just get the broken image icon on my iPad

[Bigman80]

No I can't see any. Tapatalk looks like it's trying to load something then nothing. Not even a broken link.

I'm not that daft Marco [emoji23]

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[struth]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171012/86b88af9b647f84f621265db35fd2fae.jpg

Repost it. Least I think this is it lol. On phone

[Bigman80]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171012/86b88af9b647f84f621265db35fd2fae.jpg

Repost it. Least I think this is it lol. On phoneWayhey!!! I see it.

Yes indeed. A splendid unit.

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[RobbieGong]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171012/86b88af9b647f84f621265db35fd2fae.jpg

Repost it. Least I think this is it lol. On phone

On my list of 'fabulous would have Japanese decks' - love it !

[Marco]

Bloody Tapatalk... Use a proper computer to view the forum, not a phone! :ner:;)

Marco.

[Marco]

On my list of 'fabulous would have Japanese decks' - love it !

Indeed... Now maybe Joe can answer my original question: what's the cartridge? :whistle:

Marco.

[walpurgis]

:)

http://i63.tinypic.com/2qnm8sh.jpg

[mikeyb]

Bloody Tapatalk... Use a proper computer to view the forum, not a phone! :ner:;)

Marco.Be a bit uncomfortable lying in bed with a pc on my chest, and where would I put the mouse [emoji23]

[mikeyb]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171012/86b88af9b647f84f621265db35fd2fae.jpg

Repost it. Least I think this is it lol. On phoneCracking looking deck, along with the Kenwood and the Nakamichi TT's they're at the only thing I'd sell my 1210 for. There's just something about the industrial look to them that I like.

[Jimbo]

I bet it did! The D11 is said to be warmer the 919 is 'pure' so to speak - plays what you give it.

Back to the decks - SP10 and a fully modded 12XX like mine, Marco's, Andys and others would be an insightful listen mi reckons ;)

You should try and get to listen to Marcos deck Rob, it is stunning especially with his Denon DL S1.

[Marco]

Be a bit uncomfortable lying in bed with a pc on my chest, and where would I put the mouse [emoji23]

{Cough} LAPTOP.... {Cough} ;)

Marco.

[Marco]

:)

http://i63.tinypic.com/2qnm8sh.jpg

Cheers, Geoff. I've seen them before, and they look rather special, and no doubt sound superb. Just wondered if Joe had the original cartridge or was just using the headshell with something else fitted :)

Marco.

[paulf-2007]

Cheaper to try some hefty Sorbothane feet. I find they work well.
That would be my choice but not expensive enough for some.

[struth]

Phone fits snugly into bra. Lol

[Marco]

Phone fits snugly into bra. Lol

Aye, especially with the crater-sized cups in yours! :D

Marco.

[struth]

could get an 80's one in there:eyebrows:

[Marco]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/923/Qzexv5.jpg

You could fit a Commodore PET in there, dahling! :eyebrows:

The computer we used in school during the late 70s: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Commodore+PET&oq=Commodore+PET&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.1104j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Marco.

[alcarmichael]

Glad I'm not the only one who can't see any pictures. I was so confused!

[Bigman80]

Glad I'm not the only one who can't see any pictures. I was so confused!Yep, I'm with ya.

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[karma67]

i cant see them either!

[RobbieGong]

You should try and get to listen to Marcos deck Rob, it is stunning especially with his Denon DL S1.

And Marco needs to hear mine with the Cadenza Black on board - beautiful :D

Joke aside, mine and Marco are very similar in terms of modifications.
Obvious differences are tonearm and cartridge.
Marcos a Denon man and I'm a big Ortofon fan boy :lol:
I'm in no doubt his sounds fab cause mine does too :D :eyebrows:

[Bigman80]

How much has it cost yourself and Marco to mod those 1210's, Robbie? I am so intrigued as to how they would perform side by side next to this SP10.



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[mikeyb]

How much has it cost yourself and Marco to mod those 1210's, Robbie? I am so intrigued as to how they would perform side by side next to this SP10.



Sent from my EVA-L09 using TapatalkI'll have you know it was next to nothing to do mine, I added it all up for The Boss and she was pleasantly surprised it was only a few quid [emoji23]

[Bigman80]

I'll have you know it was next to nothing to do mine, I added it all up for The Boss and she was pleasantly surprised it was only a few quid [emoji23]Lol im sure you did Mikey [emoji23][emoji23]. What about the "wife out the room" price? lol

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[RobbieGong]

How much has it cost yourself and Marco to mod those 1210's, Robbie? I am so intrigued as to how they would perform side by side next to this SP10.


I reckon a lot of people would be intrigued, myself included.

I'll have a calculate of what I've spent if I can remember it all. I think Marco bought his arm new and has likely spent more. He might reveal what his has cost to get to where it's at.

Either way, for me in terms of what I now have sonically, it's money well spent all things considered, relativity regards high end turntables and so on :)

[2kings]

Indeed... Now maybe Joe can answer my original question: what's the cartridge? :whistle:

Marco.

Marco,
Yes, XL40 as pointed out by Walpurgis.
Cheers.

[2kings]

Love this to bits, Joe:

For me, that's a better looking turntable than your Technics. Don't know about sound, though!

Is the cartridge also a Sony, or just the headshell? If it's the former, which cartridge is it? :)

Marco.

Yes, I like the look and sound of this deck. And the noise it makes too :)
Cart is Sony XL40

[Bigman80]

How much has it cost yourself and Marco to mod those 1210's, Robbie? I am so intrigued as to how they would perform side by side next to this SP10.


I reckon a lot of people would be intrigued, myself included.

I'll have a calculate of what I've spent if I can remember it all. I think Marco bought his arm new and has likely spent more. He might reveal what his has cost to get to where it's at.

Either way, for me in terms of what I now have sonically, it's money well spent all things considered, relativity regards high end turntables and so on :)No doubt about what level your at Robbie. Your set up is excellent and I have no doubt at all that the modded 1210 is a beast!!

Thanks for having a think about the price.

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[Wakefield Turntables]

A fully modded 1210 will cost north of £7K

[Bigman80]

A fully modded 1210 will cost north of £7KShocked!!!!!!

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[Ian7633]

theres only one thing to do ollie,youv'e just gotta sell ya ass,the first times the worst i hear,then after that you begin to like it!

You hear...Ha!

[2kings]

:lol:

[Bigman80]

The voice of experience [emoji23]

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[paulf-2007]

A fully modded 1210 will cost north of £7K
:lol::lol:

[montesquieu]

A fully modded 1210 will cost north of £7K

Looks amazing after the transformation though

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/78/10/c5/7810c5faa4af8eda9229ac3e6f30ad15--dj-decks-technics-turntables.jpg

[Bigman80]

Looks amazing after the transformation though

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/78/10/c5/7810c5faa4af8eda9229ac3e6f30ad15--dj-decks-technics-turntables.jpgSuppose that depends on taste 🤢

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[RobbieGong]

Looks amazing after the transformation though

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/78/10/c5/7810c5faa4af8eda9229ac3e6f30ad15--dj-decks-technics-turntables.jpg

If that's what a modded Techie looked like I wouldn't have one :eek: :lol:

[RobbieGong]

A fully modded 1210 will cost north of £7K

Really does depend on your approach.
Mine has all the major mods too and didn't cost anywhere
near that ....

Are you including cart and everything Andy ?

[Marco]

Marco,
Yes, XL40 as pointed out by Walpurgis.
Cheers.

Nice one, Joe. I'm sure that the whole shebang sounds rather special :)

Marco.

[Marco]

Looks amazing after the transformation though

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/78/10/c5/7810c5faa4af8eda9229ac3e6f30ad15--dj-decks-technics-turntables.jpg

Blingtastic! :lolsign:

...and comes with a free pair of shades.

Marco.

[Dubster68]

Blingtastic! :lolsign:

...and comes with a free pair of shades.

Marco.



Not to my taste as not into bling:stalks:.

To much Run DMC for me sorry me no like:gig:

[Wakefield Turntables]

Really does depend on your approach.
Mine has all the major mods too and didn't cost anywhere
near that ....

Are you including cart and everything Andy ?

Mine didnt cost £7K but it would if you buy everything at full cost

Ortofon Cadenza black £1825
SME V £4292 (if you include the same wiring that I've got)
Ebony armboard £65
Mike New platter/bearing/baseplate £1000 ?
Yannis Tome Tonearm cable £500 (could have been more)
Isonoe Feet £125
Paul Hynes Internal Regs £350??? (cant remember the price)
Complete PCB recap £75
Complete internal rewire to silver £100 (I used solid 3mm silver)
Technics 1210 £300 for a semi decent deck?
Analog Audio Crystal mat £75
A decent power lead for PSU £100 (mines DIY)

So its actually more like £8-9K. I only paid £2K for my SME V and cadenza black, so I saved £4K. I don't think anyone else has had the PCB main modded or fully internally wired with solid core silver. So, yep it was costly. Would I swap it. Errr, no. Would I buy the new SP10R, yeah, I think I'm getting one next year when I've heard it. :eek:

[Bigman80]

Mine didnt cost £7K but it would if you buy everything at full cost

Ortofon Cadenza black £1825
SME V £4292 (if you include the same wiring that I've got)
Ebony armboard £65
Mike New platter/bearing/baseplate £1000 ?
Yannis Tome Tonearm cable £500 (could have been more)
Isonoe Feet £125
Paul Hynes Internal Regs £350??? (cant remember the price)
Complete PCB recap £75
Complete internal rewire to silver £100 (I used solid 3mm silver)
Technics 1210 £300 for a semi decent deck?
Analog Audio Crystal mat £75
A decent power lead for PSU £100 (mines DIY)

So its actually more like £8-9K. I only paid £2K for my SME V and cadenza black, so I saved £4K. I don't think anyone else has had the PCB main modded or fully internally wired with solid core silver. So, yep it was costly. Would I swap it. Errr, no. Would I buy the new SP10R, yeah, I think I'm getting one next year when I've heard it. :eek:Holy sh!t !!!! That's an enormous amount of money. I salute your dedication. Was/is it worth the money?

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[Bigman80]

A little update,

I've had the SP10 And Phonomac at1010 set up with a AT33PTGII for a couple of days and what a fantastic cartridge it is! So detailed and smooth. A real bargain. Only loses out to the ZYX bloom in dynamics and slam IMO. Fantastic cartridge considering its £200 cheaper it's a no brainer.

Really enjoying the sound I've got here. Especially with the Slagle preamp I've just bought from Ali Tait !!!!!

Lol, I'm now brassic [emoji389][emoji389][emoji389]

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[walpurgis]

Lol, I'm now brassic

Serves you right! :lolsign:

[walpurgis]

For less than the ZYX, a Goldring Eroica LX makes a great choice too. I really like those, just so musical and they have a vibrancy that's very appealing.

[Bigman80]

Serves you right! [emoji38]sign:Hahaha, it does but I'm done mate. What I'm hearing is pinnacle for me. Maybe in the future a big pair of Tannoys but other than that there just no need to do anything else. The pioneers I've got in are still exciting and sound tremendous.

Isolation for the TT is next and ive got some new cables to make up (new ingredients) which should be good.

The main bits are done. And I'm pleased.

The difference the Slagle has made is not small either. Clarity is superb.

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[walpurgis]

The difference the Slagle has made is not small either. Clarity is superb

I knew that would grab you! :)

Has Alan heard it?

[Bigman80]

I knew that would grab you! :)

Has Alan heard it?Not yet. Possibly Tuesday.

Yes it grabbed me. Fantastic lack of colouration. Quite frankly, I'm not sure how it could be described as anything other than clinical in its accuracy and efficiency. The Goldpoint just wouldn't work in the system so no complaints about it. Just not happy in there.

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[walpurgis]

It gets me how those who haven't tried a decent TVC or AVC, are dismissive and suggest any perceived improvement is because they add distortion and colourations.

There may or may not be a minor element of truth in that, but the clarity and as you say "lack of colouration" have me convinced there's more to it. No lack of weight and body either.

My MC-9 TVC is better than any active pre-amp I've tried in my system and makes all the pot and stepped attenuator passive examples sound bland and thin in comparison

[Wakefield Turntables]

Holy sh!t !!!! That's an enormous amount of money. I salute your dedication. Was/is it worth the money?

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Yes of course it was!! I still use the deck every day and it's still my reference deck. I've got a pretty high end Lenco L75 and a Garrard 301, the 1210 still beats them.

[montesquieu]

Holy sh!t !!!! That's an enormous amount of money. I salute your dedication. Was/is it worth the money?

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Jeez is that the price of an SME V now? Well that explains it I guess,.

[Bigman80]

It gets me how those who haven't tried a decent TVC or AVC, are dismissive and suggest any perceived improvement is because they add distortion and colourations.

There may or may not be a minor element of truth in that, but the clarity and as you say "lack of colouration" have me convinced there's more to it. No lack of weight and body either.

My MC-9 TVC is better than any active pre-amp I've tried in my system and makes all the pot and stepped attenuator passive examples sound bland and thin in comparisonI'm really happy with it. It's a massive thumbs up from me.

I'd recommend anyone to try one.

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[Bigman80]

Yes of course it was!! I still use the deck every day and it's still my reference deck. I've got a pretty high end Lenco L75 and a Garrard 301, the 1210 still beats them.I suppose you can't say no after that expenditure [emoji23][emoji23]

Only kidding. I would imagine it's excellent.



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[Ammonite Audio]

.............. Isolation for the TT is next .................

Look no further than Townshend Seismic Pods. For situations where full isolation is warranted (eg a turntable like this that already has a built-in energy 'sink' in the form of a heavy plinth), Seismic Pods work magic. There's nothing foo nor fancy about them - just basic mass-spring theory intelligently wrought into a straightforward, adjustable and completely stable product.

[Bigman80]

Look no further than Townshend Seismic Pods. For situations where full isolation is warranted (eg a turntable like this that already has a built-in energy 'sink' in the form of a heavy plinth), Seismic Pods work magic. There's nothing foo nor fancy about them - just basic mass-spring theory intelligently wrought into a straightforward, adjustable and completely stable product.It's where I'd like to go but financially it's impossible lol.

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[Ammonite Audio]

The Townshend Seismic Pods retail at £99 each, but AoS members can expect a decent discount. A Seismic Platform costs rather more, of course, but since you have a motor unit bolted firmly to a nice heavy plinth, you don't need a complete platform to isolate the deck from vibrations passing up from the structure of your house - a set of Pods will do that job comprehensively. Remove those structure-borne vibrations and something rather magical happens to the music - after all a pickup cartridge is designed to be a sensitive vibration measurement transducer, so if you can leave it to track solely what's going on in the groove, better music will result. The Pods won't work with a floppy suspended deck, but they will with yours.

[walpurgis]

How difficult can it be to design and make an isolating foot?

It wouldn't be beyond me.

Mind you, some turntables benefit from being coupled to what they sit on rather than isolated from it.

[mikeyb]

The Townshend Seismic Pods retail at £99 each, but AoS members can expect a decent discount. A Seismic Platform costs rather more, of course, but since you have a motor unit bolted firmly to a nice heavy plinth, you don't need a complete platform to isolate the deck from vibrations passing up from the structure of your house - a set of Pods will do that job comprehensively. Remove those structure-borne vibrations and something rather magical happens to the music - after all a pickup cartridge is designed to be a sensitive vibration measurement transducer, so if you can leave it to track solely what's going on in the groove, better music will result. The Pods won't work with a floppy suspended deck, but they will with yours.They sound promising, I might try some once I have funds again. I have Isonoe feet on just now but feel I need something better.

[Bigman80]

The Townshend Seismic Pods retail at £99 each, but AoS members can expect a decent discount. A Seismic Platform costs rather more, of course, but since you have a motor unit bolted firmly to a nice heavy plinth, you don't need a complete platform to isolate the deck from vibrations passing up from the structure of your house - a set of Pods will do that job comprehensively. Remove those structure-borne vibrations and something rather magical happens to the music - after all a pickup cartridge is designed to be a sensitive vibration measurement transducer, so if you can leave it to track solely what's going on in the groove, better music will result. The Pods won't work with a floppy suspended deck, but they will with yours.I could be tempted with a 75% discount [emoji23][emoji23]

Seriously. Can't do it at the minute but its something I'll get to in the future.

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[CageyH]

The Townshend Seismic Pods retail at £99 each, but AoS members can expect a decent discount. A Seismic Platform costs rather more, of course, but since you have a motor unit bolted firmly to a nice heavy plinth, you don't need a complete platform to isolate the deck from vibrations passing up from the structure of your house - a set of Pods will do that job comprehensively. Remove those structure-borne vibrations and something rather magical happens to the music - after all a pickup cartridge is designed to be a sensitive vibration measurement transducer, so if you can leave it to track solely what's going on in the groove, better music will result. The Pods won't work with a floppy suspended deck, but they will with yours.

It sou n like a similar theory to the cheaper Funk Bo!ng. I also believe that AK is developing a "Kinetic" cradle for turntables. The BO!ng feet will be worth trying on home loan.

[Bigman80]

It sou n like a similar theory to the cheaper Funk Bo!ng. I also believe that AK is developing a "Kinetic" cradle for turntables. The BO!ng feet will be worth trying on home loan.Thanks Cagey, I'll look into them.

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