Tannoy Berkeley

[walpurgis]

Just had word that the HPD's should be despatched next Tuesday [emoji4]

You won't have any fingernails left by then Mike! :eek:

[mikeyb]

You won't have any fingernails left by then Mike! :eek:

You're not wrong there lol

Decca Cartridge on it's way back tomorrow too, clean bill of health after slight calibration, found out it has an almost new Extended Contact stylus on it already, so two bits of good news at last :eyebrows:

[Bigman80]

Mikey,

I've had your Vivant here for a test session when Alan was modding it. Volume wise it was easily at a level that was more than satisfactory. We ran a ZYX through it and it was absolutely fine. The Slagle is also showing no reason to suspect it is an issue so in my mind, you can rule that out.

I've run laptop, cd player and the Jolida through it. All levels were absolutely fine. The Jolida isn't the best to test this mind, it's got ridiculous gain.

Oliver.

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[mikeyb]

Mikey,

I've had your Vivant here for a test session when Alan was modding it. Volume wise it was easily at a level that was more than satisfactory. We ran a ZYX through it and it was absolutely fine. The Slagle is also showing no reason to suspect it is an issue so in my mind, you can rule that out.

I've run laptop, cd player and the Jolida through it. All levels were absolutely fine. The Jolida isn't the best to test this mind, it's got ridiculous gain.

Oliver.

Sent from my EVA-L09 using TapatalkThanks for the info, yeah both my Zyx carts (MC) were fine, it was on the MM side that I was lacking gain/volume, it was approx 1/2 to 2/3 less than the MC side.

I'll try again when the Decca returns as I've put the Xiang DAC in as a pre at the moment and it seems fine with this Regard Carbon MM cart I'm using as an emergency cart just now.

My TQ Claymore amp as a pre suffers the same low gain/volume too, so it's strange.

I'll get to the bottom of it eventually.

Mind you I'm now looking at a complete do over of the amp side of things, reading reviews on a couple of integrated amps just now [emoji6]

[walpurgis]

Mind you I'm now looking at a complete do over of the amp side of things, reading reviews on a couple of integrated amps just now [emoji6]

Dunno what you've got in mind Mike. I'm not really into integrateds, but I still have a serious hankering for a Creek Destiny 2.

[montesquieu]

Thanks for the info, yeah both my Zyx carts (MC) were fine, it was on the MM side that I was lacking gain/volume, it was approx 1/2 to 2/3 less than the MC side.

I'll try again when the Decca returns as I've put the Xiang DAC in as a pre at the moment and it seems fine with this Regard Carbon MM cart I'm using as an emergency cart just now.

My TQ Claymore amp as a pre suffers the same low gain/volume too, so it's strange.

I'll get to the bottom of it eventually.

Mind you I'm now looking at a complete do over of the amp side of things, reading reviews on a couple of integrated amps just now [emoji6]

For the Berkleys, going for an integrated, it's a no brainer for the EAR 8L6 that's been in the classifieds for a while - superb match.

[mikeyb]

Dunno what you've got in mind Mike. I'm not really into integrateds, but I still have a serious hankering for a Creek Destiny 2.I want something with meters, so I'm looking at Luxman, Accuphase, or maybe something vintage that goes well with the Berkeleys, needs to be able to do Rock, Soft Rock, Blues, Electronic, Vocals, Acoustic, Classical, so pretty much everything apart from Jazz and Indie [emoji23]

Must have meters though, oops I said that already [emoji4]

[mikeyb]

For the Berkleys, going for an integrated, it's a no brainer for the EAR 8L6 that's been in the classifieds for a while - superb match.I've been watching that one, but reviews seem unconvincing, mind you not much info out there. It doesn't have meters but it does look very nice, so I can forgive it the no meters bit [emoji6]

[montesquieu]

I've been watching that one, but reviews seem unconvincing, mind you not much info out there.

It's basically the same amp at the highly praised 534, just an integrated version, the circuit is the same. http://positive-feedback.com/Issue40/ear_534.htm

The preamp section is passive and that's the main difference apart from balanced capability.

[walpurgis]

Must have meters though, oops I said that already [emoji4]

Why? It does nothing for the sound and is just a bit more complexity to go wrong. I actually avoid amps with meters.

[montesquieu]

Why? It goes nothing for the sound and is just a bit more complexity to go wrong. I actually avoid amps with meters.

Agreed on that it's the only think I don't like about the EAR 912.

[Bigman80]

If meters are a must, go for a Sony TA-N77. Power amp.

https://www.hifishark.com/model/sony-ta-n-77-es

It's one of the best ever made. According to some.

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[Barry]

Why? It does nothing for the sound and is just a bit more complexity to go wrong. I actually avoid amps with meters.

Me too - they are of little use, inaccurate and just plain distracting! OK if you want to impress your friends I suppose. :sofa:

[Pharos]

They're also unlikely to be accurate because they can only be so for a speaker of one sensitivity, they are 'jewellery', and they cost money.

Remember the bar graph spectrogram phase?

[Bigman80]

Whilst I agree with the "pointless" and "inaccurate" comments, they do look good. A little bit magical. A bit like looking at valves, it's just NICE

Buy what you want Mikey, it's the best way to be happy.

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[brian2957]

Buy what you want Mikey, it's the best way to be happy.

Ooooh ! I must show the wife this :) Or perhaps not , she's better at spending money than me :D

[Bigman80]

Buy what you want Mikey, it's the best way to be happy.

Ooooh ! I must show the wife this :) Or perhaps not , she's better at spending money than me :DLol, yep, it's dangerous alright!!!

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[Pharos]

Agree completely with above comments, nothing wrong with buying stuff that looks nice and has a certain appeal, as long as we are clear about what we're doing.

I love the look of valves, that blue glow round the anodes above the vermillion heaters, but I wouldn't spend 100k on gear which I thought had 90% of costs spent on looks and image appeal, and not on sound improvement.

[Bigman80]

Agree completely with above comments, nothing wrong with buying stuff that looks nice and has a certain appeal, as long as we are clear about what we're doing.

I love the look of valves, that blue glow round the anodes above the vermillion heaters, but I wouldn't spend 100k on gear which I thought had 90% of costs spent on looks and image appeal, and not on sound improvement.Yes, the budget should be spent on performance but it there's nothing wrong with buying something that give you pleasure when you look at it. Style and substance do go together.

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[Barry]

Agree completely with above comments, nothing wrong with buying stuff that looks nice and has a certain appeal, as long as we are clear about what we're doing.

I love the look of valves, that blue glow round the anodes above the vermillion heaters, but I wouldn't spend 100k on gear which I thought had 90% of costs spent on looks and image appeal, and not on sound improvement.

Doesn't a 'blue glow' suggest the valve is going soft (loosing the vacuum)? Otherwise I agree with you regarding cosmetics and appearance v. sound quality. It is possible to have both.

[Pharos]

"Doesn't a 'blue glow' suggest the valve is going soft (loosing the vacuum)?"

Not according to my education and training, in fact it was regarded as an indication of healthy working conditions.

[Barry]

"Doesn't a 'blue glow' suggest the valve is going soft (loosing the vacuum)?"

Not according to my education and training, in fact it was regarded as an indication of healthy working conditions.

Fair enough - valves are not really my forte. Maybe it's an orange glow that indicates a valve going soft?

[mikeyb]

Thanks for all the comments, I can understand the no meters choice as well as the get it if you like the looks view as well.

I'm looking at stuff like a used Luxman 505uX or similar.

That 8L6 looks great to so I'm not averse to valves. I do want top audio quality but looks are important to me to, my 1210 still looks like a secondhand £500 turntable, with the money spent on modding it I could have bought something that looked a million times better but it would have needed to be as good sound wise my 1210 which might be hard to beat.

Once my Tannoys are back I'll listen to them with current amps and decide then, BUT, I've always wanted something that looks like the Luxman mentioned above, and that desire will be hard to ignore [emoji6]

[Ali Tait]

Fair enough - valves are not really my forte. Maybe it's an orange glow that indicates a valve going soft?

Often an orange or purple glow is indicative of something amiss, blue glow is fine.

[Ali Tait]

Thanks for all the comments, I can understand the no meters choice as well as the get it if you like the looks view as well.

I'm looking at stuff like a used Luxman 505uX or similar.

That 8L6 looks great to so I'm not averse to valves. I do want top audio quality but looks are important to me to, my 1210 still looks like a secondhand £500 turntable, with the money spent on modding it I could have bought something that looked a million times better but it would have needed to be as good sound wise my 1210 which might be hard to beat.

Once my Tannoys are back I'll listen to them with current amps and decide then, BUT, I've always wanted something that looks like the Luxman mentioned above, and that desire will be hard to ignore [emoji6]

Heard some Tannoys with a Luxman, nice sound.

[mikeyb]

Recone paid for last night and the drivers should be with me tomorrow [emoji4]

Guess what I'll be doing the rest of the week ( cos I'm off [emoji39] )

[Edward]

Recone paid for last night and the drivers should be with me tomorrow [emoji4]

Guess what I'll be doing the rest of the week ( cos I'm off [emoji39] )Have you thought of doing a live AoS streaming event of unpacking, setting up and initial listening impressions? :-)

Many people are following you on this you know ....

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[montesquieu]

Recone paid for last night and the drivers should be with me tomorrow [emoji4]

Guess what I'll be doing the rest of the week ( cos I'm off [emoji39] )

Running in the drivers? :)

Though to be fair the foam surrounds need a lot less running in than the earlier hard bindings.

[WESTLOWER]

Have you thought of doing a live AoS streaming event of unpacking, setting up and initial listening impressions? :-)

Many people are following you on this you know ....

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God, the thought of me trying something like that... it would be utter chaos!

[montesquieu]

God, the thought of me trying something like that... it would be utter chaos!

Brits (north or south of the border) aren't trained, as Americans are, to witter on inanely but fluently at great length. None of us would be any good at an unboxing video.

I'm on a lot of conference calls with the US and they literally take three times as long as they need to.

[mikeyb]

Have you thought of doing a live AoS streaming event of unpacking, setting up and initial listening impressions? :-)

Many people are following you on this you know ....

Sent via TapatalkLol that's an idea, will I need to get dressed?

[emoji23]

[Edward]

Lol that's an idea, will I need to get dressed?

[emoji23]Well I think the minimum would be a t shirt, shorts and flip flops. Your PJs I think would be out of order.

Or when you say dressed do you mean dress? [emoji4][emoji848]



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[WESTLOWER]

Well I think the minimum would be a t shirt, shorts and flip flops. Your PJs I think would be out of order.

Or when you say dressed do you mean dress? [emoji4][emoji848]



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It would make a great comedy sketch..
That reminds me , I haven't watched the 'Not the Nine O'clock news' Hi Fi Sketch for a while :lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxQqWSnsHoA

[mikeyb]

8:30am and the UPS van hasn't been yet!

What are the doing don't they know they have a customer waiting, jeez I've still to pick my dress up from the dry cleaners and I can't leave the house until the van has been [emoji34]

[brian2957]

NoNoNo !! You have to unpack them and fit them ASAP :eek: . Never mind the dress :)

Oh... Take some piccies please Mike :)

[mikeyb]

NoNoNo !! You have to unpack them and fit them ASAP :eek: . Never mind the dress :)

Oh... Take some piccies please Mike :)Lol, will do [emoji4]

[walpurgis]

Don't forget. Lay the cabinets on their backs to refit the drivers. :)

I'm assuming there's a gasket or foam strip still intact to seal the baffle recess the drive units fit in?

[mikeyb]

Don't forget. Lay the cabinets on their backs to refit the drivers. :)

I'm assuming there's a gasket or foam strip still intact to seal the baffle recess the drive units fit in?I had thought that might be best method, not sure about the foam strips, I think they might have been stuck to the back of the drivers, I'll check the cabs before fitting. I do remember one of the drivers gripped a bit before I got it out but never really took much notice of why other than seeing a dark mark around the inner lip of the cabinet.

IF they aren't there how do I overcome the issue? Will any kind of foam tape do?

[walpurgis]

IF they aren't there how do I overcome the issue? Will any kind of foam tape do?

This kind of tape. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-Foam-Draught-Excluder-Strip-Weather-Seal-Door-Insulation-Tape-Window-Gap/262261823873?epid=1642163257&hash=item3d1005d981:m:mNmpkpr7slRPLbfR7ToOQNQ

A hardware shop or B&Q would probably stock something suitable. Colour obviously is not critical, but I always opt for black. Stick it to the cabinet with the non-sticky side meeting the driver back. That way, if it ever needs taking off, you don't have to fumble around with a large and fragile speaker drive unit when removing it.

[mikeyb]

This kind of tape. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-Foam-Draught-Excluder-Strip-Weather-Seal-Door-Insulation-Tape-Window-Gap/262261823873?epid=1642163257&hash=item3d1005d981:m:mNmpkpr7slRPLbfR7ToOQNQ

A hardware shop or B&Q would probably stock something suitable. Colour obviously is not critical, but I always opt for black. Stick it to the cabinet with the non-sticky side meeting the driver back. That way, if it ever needs taking off, you don't have to fumble around with a large and fragile speaker drive unit when removing it.Thanks

[cooky]

This, proper stuff;http://www.bluearan.co.uk/index.php?id=TUFFGAS20&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwb2txJud1wIVSCjTCh33jgE3EAQYASAB EgJxqvD_BwE

[walpurgis]

Why pay over the odds for something that does exactly the same job and needs to be sent, so you have to wait for it?

[cooky]

Because it is thinner, wider and pretty much industry standard stuff and all for an extra £4. Oh and I recommend sticking it to the driver basket as I'd rather scrape old gasket from a metal basket than off a crumbly mdf/chipboard baffle.

[montesquieu]

Interesting can't say I've ever used any gasket seems to seal pretty well just using the bolts. Should I be worried? Are my speakers broken?:uhho:

Just off to order some have a severe case of audiophilia nervosa coming on.

[walpurgis]

Interesting can't say I've ever used any gasket seems to seal pretty well just using the bolts. Should I be worried? Are my speakers broken?:uhho:

It's not critical, as in a true 'acoustic suspension' sealed system. But it does prevent air leakage, which has an effect on the system tuning. A gasket also fills gaps due to minor irregularites in the baffle recess, which can be a cause of vibrations against the driver.

[mikeyb]

I actually think I have some double sided foam tape that I bought to do a job on the car, I can leave one side with the cover on it and use the other sticky side, that's if I can find it lol

[walpurgis]

industry standard

Industry standard? Audiophile grade gasket perhaps? A gasket is a gasket! once in compression they just seal. I've been refurbishing and rebuilding speakers including Tannoys and making my own speakers to a high standard for over forty years, so I do know what I'm about!

Yes. I have made good the odd crumbly chipboard baffle where a driver has glued itself in with mastic gasket. It's not a big deal.

[cooky]

Yes industry standard, ie widely used by driver and enclosure manufacturers, no one mentioned audiophile anything, tuff cab are pro suppliers, there are a few others who make/sell similar stuff, Tannoy use it, Quested use it, JBL use it, Fane use it, Precision Devices use it, Void, Adlib, Funktion1 etc etc.Geoff, I know a bit about speaker building myself too but I'm not getting into a pissing contest over a bit of alternative advice that costs £4 but you can carry on if you wish.

[walpurgis]

Geoff, I know a bit about speaker building myself too but I'm not getting into a pissing contest over a bit of alternative advice that costs £4 but you can carry on if you wish.

:)

[WESTLOWER]

Interesting can't say I've ever used any gasket seems to seal pretty well just using the bolts. Should I be worried? Are my speakers broken?:uhho:

Just off to order some have a severe case of audiophilia nervosa coming on.

Yes Tom, that's exactly what i thought your speakers needed when I listened to them!!!..NOT! :lol:

[walpurgis]

Anybody fussy about gaskets, could always look for craft foam sheet of around 2mm in thickness, it comes in black or grey if wanted. It's difficult to find in sheets bigger than A4 size though. Being non-adhesive it avoids sticking issues obviously. I use it for smaller drivers and tweeters, it's dead easy to cut. Last time I located larger sheets was in W H Smiths, but that was years ago. Specialist art/craft shops may be able to source larger sheets.

[cooky]

Anybody fussy about gaskets, could always look for craft foam sheet of around 2mm in thickness, it comes in black or grey if wanted. It's difficult to find in sheets bigger than A4 size though. Being non-adhesive it avoids sticking issues obviously. I use it for smaller drivers and tweeters, it's dead easy to cut. Last time I located larger sheets was in W H Smiths, but that was years ago. Specialist art/craft shops may be able to source larger sheets.

Good suggestion but why pay over the odds when you can get a multicoloured pack of 10xA4 from Poundland?:eyebrows:

[struth]

Good suggestion but why pay over the odds when you can get a multicoloured pack of 10xA4 from Poundland?:eyebrows:

My mate started working there.. poor sod lol . says some of their stuff is quite good. Got me a record cover frame for a quid. even a glass front lol

[cooky]

Some gasket pron on 15" HPD;


https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4510/37378065974_555097d215_z.jpg

[mikeyb]

This is turning into rather a long day [emoji17]

[struth]

not arrived mike... bugger that when your eager.. bet if you go out for 5 mins they will come

[walpurgis]

Make sure you put each one back in the right cabinet! I hope you marked them carefully. :eek:

[mikeyb]

not arrived mike... bugger that when your eager.. bet if you go out for 5 mins they will come

maybe I should try what we did in our pigeon shooting days when we hadn't seen anything to shoot for ages, I always started dismantling the shotgun and sure enough..................... :lol:

NOT that I'm suggesting I'm waiting in on the UPS man with a firearm in my mitts, that's reserved for tomorrow IF he doesn't show tonight :eyebrows: :D

[walpurgis]

maybe I should try what we did in our pigeon shooting days when we hadn't seen anything to shoot for ages, I always started dismantling the shotgun and sure enough..................... :lol:

Bit like when you pick up a so-so looking bird in the pub and her gorgeous mate turns up a bit too late for you.




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[struth]

Bit like when you pick up a so-so looking bird in the pub and her gorgeous mate turns up a bit to late for you.

ugly ugly or fugly ugly? the kind the when she takes the pint of guinness out of her face, all the mirrors in pub crack.. ;) ... Yeah, that used to happen all the time....to my mate :D

[Macca]

Or lighting a ciggy at the bus stop. Bus will then come round the corner immediately.

[mikeyb]

It's my fault they're not here yet, I took down my PMC speakers earlier today.

I've just out then back in and will no doubt have to sit in all day tomorrow.

[Macca]

Disappointment She Wrote.

What does the tracking say?

[cooky]

What a pain. My pet hate. When I was 10 I waited an entire summer school holidays for the delivery of a bloody racing bike-I still have a twitch..

[mikeyb]

Didn't get tracking info so might not even be on their way, I was told yesterday that UPS would deliver today.

Ah well never mind I'm off tomorrow anyway [emoji6]

[Oddball]

The postman always rings twice

[mikeyb]

“Nurse, nurse!”

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171102/262b6b5b52187b4406d505b0841b5bb6.jpg

[emoji4]

[struth]

hope thats not a blowup brenda:lol:

[mikeyb]

hope thats not a blowup brenda[emoji38]Lol no she's in the 'other' Playroom [emoji6]

[mikeyb]

Clicky clicky :eyebrows:

https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Odds-and-Sods/i-r4SDm45/0/eb37a4ad/XL/IMG_0893-XL.jpg (https://mikeyb.smugmug.com/Other/Odds-and-Sods/i-r4SDm45/A)

[Ali Tait]

Somebody’s bought all your paint Mike! :-)

[walpurgis]

:popcorn:

[Pharos]

Are they JBLs in your profile picture Frank? If so which ones?

[mikeyb]

Somebody’s bought all your paint Mike! :-)

Thank god lol



More vids to come , tease .......... me ?

:lol:

[Edward]

:champagne::goodluck:

[cooky]

Are they JBLs in your profile picture Frank? If so which ones?

Yes, they are K2 S9800 inspired/DIY clones.They are active and use a combination of drivers from across the Synthesis program.15" ME150H bass from the S3100, I use a 4" beryllium comp driver(as in the DD66000) rather than the 3"Be from the S9800 on the same horn(H9800). I've dispensed with the super tweeter as the 4"Be is good out to 18khz.
Second system has the 3" 2435 Be on an Array SAM1 horn with a 12" 2206 bass mid. The house is also full of Tannoys, Arden1's and System 15 DMT2's in the main.I'm in the middle of an Arden Legacy clone project too using 3833/3836 drivers.

[mikeyb]

Link to the video above should work now, forgot I the gallery locked off [emoji6]

[walpurgis]

Yes, they are K2 S9800 inspired/DIY clones.They are active and use a combination of drivers from across the Synthesis program.15" ME150H bass from the S3100, I use a 4" beryllium comp driver(as in the DD66000) rather than the 3"Be from the S9800 on the same horn(H9800). I've dispensed with the super tweeter as the 4"Be is good out to 18khz.
Second system has the 3" 2435 Be on an Array SAM1 horn with a 12" 2206 bass mid. The house is also full of Tannoys, Arden1's and System 15 DMT2's in the main.

Interesting.

[mikeyb]

https://mikeyb.smugmug.com/Other/Odds-and-Sods/i-XGfwTQN/A

[walpurgis]

Very nice! That box must have weighed something. I know how heavy those are. :)

[brian2957]

Yup , enjoyed the video Mike . They look great :)

[mikeyb]

https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Odds-and-Sods/i-XGfwTQN/0/75858b0d/M/IMG_0894-M.jpg (https://mikeyb.smugmug.com/Other/Odds-and-Sods/i-XGfwTQN/A)

[Edward]

https://mikeyb.smugmug.com/Other/Odds-and-Sods/i-XGfwTQN/A


Good grief. I had not realised what monsters those are. Great unpacking and install videos.

[mikeyb]

https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Odds-and-Sods/i-XDznsgv/0/ae52bb30/M/IMG_0898-M.jpg (https://mikeyb.smugmug.com/Other/Odds-and-Sods/i-XDznsgv/A)


Yes, I know I didn't use foam tape around the baffle, I'll get some over the weekend and fit it then, promise ;)

[Ali Tait]

Look good Mike

[mikeyb]

Mystery - Delusion Rain

https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Odds-and-Sods/i-jK8Cp89/0/5c19b54e/M/IMG_0908-M.jpg (https://mikeyb.smugmug.com/Other/Odds-and-Sods/i-jK8Cp89/A)




Kraftwerk - Autobahn

https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Odds-and-Sods/i-FvvZBzJ/0/91f135de/M/IMG_0904-M.jpg (https://mikeyb.smugmug.com/Other/Odds-and-Sods/i-FvvZBzJ/A)
Jean Michel Jarre - Aero

https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Odds-and-Sods/i-kbMVt9P/0/ee0e4729/M/IMG_0905-M.jpg (https://mikeyb.smugmug.com/Other/Odds-and-Sods/i-kbMVt9P/A)

[mikeyb]

That paint came in handy [emoji4]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171102/c6c41f18db022f0391266a4102eb2925.jpg

[Oddball]

yeahhh!!!:rock:

[cooky]

Never get tired of seeing nice spanking new blue grey Tannoy cones..enjoy.:)

[mikeyb]

They've been running since 2pm lol

Sounding superb and seem to be fine in this part of the room [emoji6]

Just a pity it's cost me nearly five and half grand...... For the speakers, recone, new suite, decorating [emoji23]

[walpurgis]

Glad you got there eventually Mike. They can only get better!

You've not finished spending yet though. The paint cans will have to go, so you'll need short stands of some sort. :)

[mikeyb]

Glad you got there eventually Mike. They can only get better!

You've not finished spending yet though. The paint cans will have to go, so you'll need short stands of some sort. :)Ah, bugger I forgot about that, mind you fill them with water and reuse [emoji6]

[Bigman80]

Fantastic mate. They look the business and guessing they sound amazing? Can't really tell from the vids!

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[hermit]

Glad you got there eventually Mike. They can only get better!

You've not finished spending yet though. The paint cans will have to go, so you'll need short stands of some sort. :)

Or for the price of a set of stands go the whole hog and buy these big boys (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tannoy-Cabinets-Custom-350L-Birch-Ply-Bass-Reflex-with-Grilles-Red-Gold-HPD/222679442459?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC. MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D48785%26meid%3D6c5a573d3a524d 629cb4e670aa5b917b%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3 D1%26sd%3D142532177904&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&clk_rvr_id=1353121728174&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true) in Edinburgh :eek:

[montesquieu]

Or for the price of a set of stands go the whole hog and buy these big boys (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tannoy-Cabinets-Custom-350L-Birch-Ply-Bass-Reflex-with-Grilles-Red-Gold-HPD/222679442459?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC. MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D48785%26meid%3D6c5a573d3a524d 629cb4e670aa5b917b%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3 D1%26sd%3D142532177904&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&clk_rvr_id=1353121728174&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true) in Edinburgh :eek:

Hmmm .. don't look to me like there's much science gone into the build, three massive holes for ports on the bottom of the front panel, without tubes in .. suggests the builder didn't really know what he was building. Pretty thin ply and pretty skimpy bracing for such big boxes too, they could be OK .. but more likely they could end up flexing and booming with every drumbeat.

And £200 ... my bet is they sounded horrendous and he wants rid asap.

I'm firmly of the view that cabs need to be designed specifically for the drivers, the room and the listener, as a holistic exercise. Just whacking up a box of the right volume and cutting a few big holes in seems to me like a recipe for disaster.

[walpurgis]

Hmmm .. don't look to me like there's much science gone into the build.

Yes. They're rubbish. And the baffle recess is shaped for something other than Tannoys.

[Pharos]

I have to agree Tom, but not so much with you on matching cabinets to a room, and people think if it looks good that fulfils the requirement, when in fact that is the last consideration, and my Lancasters sounded like wardrobes.

[mikeyb]

Right guys, I've now sold my TQ Claymore Amp and I'm wanting to find the ideal amp to match my Berkeleys.

I'm currently using an EWA M-50 Power Amp with a Xiang Sheng DAC Pre, the two might be sold off to add to the TQ funds, although I'm not averse to just adding a really good Pre Amp into the EWA M-50 Power Amp.

So I'm looking at a budget of anything from £1000-£1750 give or take. Can be integrated, pre/power, valves, Solid State, not really fussy. I'm just looking to get the best out of my final set of speakers.

My tastes include everything from Americana, Female Vocalists, Electronic, Prog, Classic Rock, Hard Rock. I do also like to go to 11 at times too. I like good clean bass, thunderous bass ( I love live music ), good vocals, but I'm easily put off if treble is a bit harsh or edgy as I hate that.

I just don't want to buy blind without advice as not much is selling just now and don't want to buy and not like it then have to try and get rid of it in this poor market.

Rest of system is my heavily modded Technics 1210, Fidelity Research FR64FX arm, Denon Gold cart, Firebottle Vivant Phono stage, Raspberry Pi with Allo Boss DAC and of course the Tannoy Berkeleys, all of these items are keepers.

Remote control would be useful but not a deal breaker. It must look good too, although I realise that everyone's taste is different.

I SHOULD have bought Martin's Yoshino 8L6 but by the time I'd made my mind up and sold my TQ it was gone. Another poor decision on my part [emoji17]

Modern or vintage considered.

So if anyone can help that would be great.

I forgot to say second hand preferred to maximise bang for buck [emoji6]

I'll put this question in a separate thread over in Blank Canvas so no need to reply here. It'll save this thread going off topic.

[Magna Audio]

Trying to find one amp to do everything required of it is a challenge. Silicon integrated amps are great for the bass but lack subtlety for the HF. SET amps are great for HF but struggle with the bass.
Push pull valve amps are somewhere in between. Jack of all trades.

You could always go active and use an amp ideally suited to the bass driver, something with decent damping factor and then a sweet little SET amp on the HF horn.

Best of both worlds, and then you are on that slippery slope again.. :)

[mikeyb]

Room is almost finished, I am about to buy some music related art for the walls, and the radiator will be replaced by one that’s less intrusive, but in the meantime here are a couple of photos.

Audio setup still in a state of flux, with Pre Amp or Integrated still on my shopping list. I’ve also to fit in an AV Receiver and Amazon Fire TV box so the unit will need to be changed, I might just order the same one but slightly taller. I still have the projector and 7ft screen fitted so we can still watch movies on the big screen. Surround system is 6.1 setup using B&W MT 30 speakers with B&W PV1 Subwoofer.

The first photo shows the ‘music room’ in relation to the rest of the living room.

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[struth]

Very nice Mike. Nice wee niche up at the stereo when just yourself but can take more too

[mikeyb]

Very nice Mike. Nice wee niche up at the stereo when just yourself but can take more too

Aye, and the large seat ( sort of 1.5 size ) just behind the 2 seat settee can be spun round to allow more listeners/viewers [emoji6]

[mikeyb]

Here’s a quick video showing the full layout

https://mikeyb.smugmug.com/Other/Odds-and-Sods/i-94Dc7gc

[struth]

looks good Mike. Nice panning too. Gray is the in colour. My daughters into that too.... think she found a grey hair and decided to colour match it:D

[Bigman80]

Nice listening space mate.

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[mikeyb]

Nice listening space mate.

Sent from my EVA-L09 using TapatalkThanks, I have my wife to thank for it, it was her suggestion to completely change everything around and move the TV into main space and to use the home cinema area for music listening instead. I think her idea has worked brilliantly.

I'll still be able to use the big screen for movies one I get that side redone with new AV receiver etc.

Also need speaker stands [emoji6]

[Bigman80]

Thanks, I have my wife to thank for it, it was her suggestion to completely change everything around and move the TV into main space and to use the home cinema area for music listening instead. I think her idea has worked brilliantly.

I'll still be able to use the big screen for movies one I get that side redone with new AV receiver etc.

Also need speaker stands [emoji6]We all have a lot to thank our wives/partners for. [emoji6]

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[walpurgis]

We all have a lot to thank our wives/partners for.

I'm very grateful to mine.........for staying at her mother's! :D

[Bigman80]

I'm very grateful to mine.........for staying at her mother's! :D🤣

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