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montesquieu
23-09-2017, 13:22
NOW SOLD.

Having bought Walpurgis’s Tannoy crossovers recently I dug out MY 12 in Monitor Golds from storage to hear how they were sounding, putting them in some maple cabs I also had stored away.

The answer is - fantastic! A really nice partnership with the Radford STA25 I have in at the moment (awaiting the STA100 coming back), which is just exactly what they would have been used with back in the mid 60s. Like pretty much all vintage Tannoy DCs, what they like is 20-40w of push-pull amplification which the Radford provides with aplomb.

The drivers are early Golds with the harder/sticky surround, and with the exception of the 8 ohm nominal impedance have more in common with earlier 12in Reds than with the later 12in Golds/rubber surrounds. The cabs are currently sealed (though port holes are available having been blocked up) and built to Chatsworth dimensions so the sound is pretty much as a Chatsworth cabinet - sweet, punchy, and detailed, though with a bass response that falls off quite rapidly below 60-70hz. (A properly designed port would improve on this at the expense of a little bit of impact).

Anyway while it’s been fun this past couple of weeks I don’t really want to put these back in storage so I’m offering them for sale. The crossovers are for the HPD315 but the crossover point is the same 1khz, so they work absolutely fine. (parameters here: http://www.44bx.com/tannoy/Tannoy_ts.html )

I'm selling the drivers on their own for £800 and with the crossovers for £950. The cabs are solid maple but very rough and ready so are offered for free to anyone who buys the driver and crossover, if wanted - they would need some work to be living-room friendly, but actually sound pretty nice even as-is.

I had toyed with making a project out of this, having the cabs fixed up and sprayed a funky colour, maybe port dimensions calculated and a tube fitted to the port hole that's currently blocked up. I also thought about having some corner Chatsworths made (how about this for a vintage theme - plans are available: http://www.worksofdesign.com/tannoy-12-monitor-red-loudspeakers-in-chatsworth-corner-cabinets-1958-2/ )

But the fact is I don't have the room, my study can really only accommodate small standmounts (currently Tannoy DCs, natch, but small modern DC6 versions). These vintage beauties deserve to be heard.

Collection from Bracknell area, less than 10 min from J4a M3 or from J10 M4.

https://i.imgur.com/Emg7Qdd.jpg

struth
23-09-2017, 14:58
some nice wood there going for free. wouldnt take much to have a perfect pair of top notch 12"MG's

ERICLIMPIT
23-09-2017, 16:04
Ooooh !! hugely tempted by these...

WESTLOWER
23-09-2017, 17:24
Ditto, but alas my amp isn't suited.

farflungstar
23-09-2017, 17:41
If anyone knows about Tannoys it's Tom, and having bought from him in the past his gear is always top notch and he's a true gent to deal with. Someone will be very lucky...

montesquieu
23-09-2017, 17:46
Ditto, but alas my amp isn't suited.

I used them with the Tim de P/Andy Grove WAD 300b PP .... that works very well with MGs, though hasn't the welly for HPDs.


If anyone knows about Tannoys it's Tom, and having bought from him in the past his gear is always top notch and he's a true gent to deal with. Someone will be very lucky...

Thanks Adey but you flatter me a bit .. quite a few whose knowledge I defer to certainly in technical matters, Walpurgis here, Paul Coupe of course, AnthonyTD, several others .. but I've certainly had a few different Tannoy DC drivers in different cabs, I recall counting up the amps I'd tried with them and it came to more than 30!

WESTLOWER
23-09-2017, 20:47
[QUOTE=montesquieu;900676]I used them with the Tim de P/Andy Grove WAD 300b PP .... that works very well with MGs, though hasn't the welly for HPDs.

Hi Tom, I had really hoped my 300b would be a good match as those are the drivers I had an itch for, but spoke with Paul Coupe and He advised that as my amp has No global negative feedback and the impedance is too high on my amp, closer to
3 Ohms where under 1 Ohm is required for optimum performance .
I have to say I'm very gutted as I had hoped to put those drivers with my amp. Maybe they would be a good match but I bow to Paul's knowledge ..

montesquieu
23-09-2017, 20:55
[QUOTE=montesquieu;900676]I used them with the Tim de P/Andy Grove WAD 300b PP .... that works very well with MGs, though hasn't the welly for HPDs.

Hi Tom, I had really hoped my 300b would be a good match as those are the drivers I had an itch for, but spoke with Paul Coupe and He advised that as my amp has No global negative feedback and the impedance is too high on my amp, closer to
3 Ohms where under 1 Ohm is required for optimum performance .
I have to say I'm very gutted as I had hoped to put those drivers with my amp. Maybe they would be a good match but I bow to Paul's knowledge ..

I assume then you have the single-ended/parallel single ended one. I ran the push-pull version very successfully with these speakers and only moved it on when I changed to HPDs in the larger cabinets, for which it didn't have enough power. I concur with Paul that the single ended version is unsuitable.

walpurgis
23-09-2017, 20:56
Adam. It would make sense to try your amp with these speakers if you have an interest. Tom is not that far from you.

WESTLOWER
23-09-2017, 21:15
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I assume then you have the single-ended/parallel single ended one. I ran the push-pull version very successfully with these speakers and only moved it on when I changed to HPDs in the larger cabinets, for which it didn't have enough power. I concur with Paul that the single ended version is unsuitable.

It's actually a PP amp but with No global feedback.

Geoff makes a pretty good suggestion but Paul was very sure when
I spoke to him (regarding a different Tannoy project, same drivers, and he had every incentive to be positive as I was going to give him some work!)
But also don't want to mess Tom about

walpurgis
23-09-2017, 21:26
I use modestly powered zero feedback amps with the harder to drive post HPD, DU series drivers and have no problems with grip or drive. I have owned the early Monitor Golds too and they are extremely easy to drive and are undemanding of amplifiers. Nothing is necessarily set in stone and I'm a firm believer in giving anything a go.

WESTLOWER
23-09-2017, 21:36
I hear you Geoff. It would be interesting to hear the amp with them I agree.
Maybe if Tom doesn't move them on instantly he may consider that.

montesquieu
23-09-2017, 21:39
[QUOTE=montesquieu;900746]

It's actually a PP amp but with No global feedback.

Geoff makes a pretty good suggestion but Paul was very sure when
I spoke to him (regarding a different Tannoy project, same drivers, and he had every incentive to be positive as I was going to give him some work!)
But also don't want to mess Tom about

Bring it over .. Barnet's an hour and 8min away according to Google maps. No obligation I'm always up for a chat about systems and I make decent coffee.

WESTLOWER
23-09-2017, 22:03
I'll pm you tom.

ERICLIMPIT
24-09-2017, 11:02
tried to pm you but your inbox is full Tom

montesquieu
24-09-2017, 17:46
[QUOTE=montesquieu;900676]I used them with the Tim de P/Andy Grove WAD 300b PP .... that works very well with MGs, though hasn't the welly for HPDs.

Hi Tom, I had really hoped my 300b would be a good match as those are the drivers I had an itch for, but spoke with Paul Coupe and He advised that as my amp has No global negative feedback and the impedance is too high on my amp, closer to
3 Ohms where under 1 Ohm is required for optimum performance .
I have to say I'm very gutted as I had hoped to put those drivers with my amp. Maybe they would be a good match but I bow to Paul's knowledge ..

Turns out Paul was right after all (I should have learned my lesson on that one by now as I have the T shirt already) however Adam also heard these with the Radford and was smitten, so they are now SOLD.

Was a fun afternoon in fact!

walpurgis
24-09-2017, 17:47
Result. If not quite as intended.

petrat
24-09-2017, 18:01
Welcome to the Dark Side, young Adam :rofl:

I fore-see an EAR 861 in your future :D

farflungstar
24-09-2017, 18:23
Ahhh yes, I forgot about the EAR.....

WESTLOWER
24-09-2017, 20:22
Thank you Tom for being so accommodating and welcoming.
Your system floored myself and Mrs westlower fella. There's no way I could leave without
Some of that sound. Again thank you for your time and knowledge, and of course the
Speakers...
That equalization box of tricks was also incredible, next on my list!

walpurgis
24-09-2017, 20:31
Well Adam. What you now own is regarded by many as one of the finest speakers ever made. Old they may be, but they seem to go on forever and sound glorious. Hope you enjoy them. :)

WESTLOWER
24-09-2017, 23:14
Geoff thanks for the heads up on trying these out, I'm sure they will
Give many years of pleasure :)