View Full Version : Sometimes things just ain't meant to be
Zoidburg
22-08-2017, 12:24
A few weeks back I saw a pair of speakers on ebay I was very interested in, they had a BIN offer and i was tempted to give them a go even though it would have meant a car journey of about 6 hours round to collect them.
I emailed the seller at the time with a few queries and asked him to send me a few more pictures as well. The email was never responded to and so I watched as they went unsold. I'm pretty sure they have been up for sale again since at the same BIN but I resisted.
Anyway a couple of days ago I noticed they had been listed again as an auction and with an option of collection from a location closer to me which would have been much easier for me, had to be the same seller as the pictures and wording of the add were identical.
The auction was due to end at about 1pm today and as of about 11 am I was the highest bidder, id talked myself into really wanting them and that they were in fact mine already!!
Then low and behold the auction is pulled, I can only guess why but I'm a bit p!ssed !!
I guess it's just not meant to be in this case.,
killie99
22-08-2017, 12:37
Can I guess the 1st location was Dumfries and 2nd Wallsall? If it was you had a lucky escape ....
What were the speakers, Ben?
Maybe they will come up again and third time is the charm...
jollyfix
22-08-2017, 12:45
Can I guess the 1st location was Dumfries and 2nd Wallsall? If it was you had a lucky escape ....
Tell us more Stuart....
Zoidburg
22-08-2017, 12:53
Can I guess the 1st location was Dumfries and 2nd Wallsall? If it was you had a lucky escape ....
Not quite - collection from Bristol or Birmingham
Zoidburg
22-08-2017, 12:53
What were the speakers, Ben?
Maybe they will come up again and third time is the charm...
They were a pair of jbl L100
Zoidburg
22-08-2017, 12:55
Tell us more Stuart....
Yes please tell more
killie99
22-08-2017, 13:20
There is a seller Babacat1 on ebay who lists items as location Dumfries but if you want to collect them in person they are in Walsall. He also lists under another ebay user in Walsall (but I can't for the life of me remember the other name) and if you want to collect the items are in Dumfries. I've seen the exact same items get listed with both sellers. A couple of years back someone on Wigwam got stung buying from the Walsall located seller and there was a lengthy post where a number of people came forward to say they had a similar experience.
walpurgis
22-08-2017, 13:45
had to be the same seller as the pictures and wording of the add were identical
Not necessarily. It's not unknown for dodgy sellers to clone ads from other people's listings.
Zoidburg
22-08-2017, 13:47
Didn't get the chance to actually pay for anything so it's just frustrating really
walpurgis
22-08-2017, 13:51
Might have done you a favour really.
The L100 Century is more 'disco' than Hi-Fi. OK for parties, but not for serious music listening on a good system.
Might have done you a favour really.
The L100 Century is more 'disco' than Hi-Fi. OK for parties, but not for serious music listening on a good system.
No. I won't have that. They may not be the most transparent and refined of speakers but they are way better speakers than most of the UK flat earth tat that gets routinely rated as 'classics'.
walpurgis
22-08-2017, 14:36
That LE20 tweeter has a 'sizzle' to it, the cardboard coned mid honks at you and the bass driver intrudes into the lower mid. The bass is tight from the driver, but the cabinet is underdamped, so you get odd sounds from the port. Other than that they are just dandy! :D
Neil McCauley
22-08-2017, 14:36
No. I won't have that. They may not be the most transparent and refined of speakers but they are way better speakers than most of the UK flat earth tat that gets routinely rated as 'classics'.
+1
Zoidburg
22-08-2017, 14:47
They were something I'm very interested in trying. I've heard a couple of jbl speakers now and like what I've heard so far.
walpurgis
22-08-2017, 14:50
They were something I'm very interested in trying. I've heard a couple of jbl speakers now and like what I've heard so far.
Keep an eye out for the vintage L65 Jubal. I quite like those. Very nice top end from the slot lens tweeter.
Zoidburg
22-08-2017, 14:56
Keep an eye out for the vintage L65 Jubal. I quite like those. Very nice top end from the slot lens tweeter.
Decent jbls seem to be few and far between when your looking to buy
walpurgis
22-08-2017, 15:43
If I had the money, I'd seriously like to try a pair of JBL S2600. That's a 12" bass driver by the way, so you can see they're not exactly small speakers.
https://s28.postimg.org/ovg0x7a31/mxcp1377379393414092411.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/thc55jvm1/)
Neil McCauley
22-08-2017, 15:51
These are worth investigating, the JBL L212 system; towers + sub woofer
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=jbl+212&client=firefox-b&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiniZrrmOvVAhUJKMAKHYkoB8sQsAQIUg&biw=1160&bih=598
Owner reviews at http://www.audioreview.com/cat/speakers/floorstanding-speakers/jbl/l212/prd_119737_1594crx.aspx
Working L212 systems can sometimes be found at https://www.hifishark.com/model/jbl-l-212
If I had the money, I'd seriously like to try a pair of JBL S2600. That's a 12" bass driver by the way, so you can see they're not exactly small speakers.
https://s28.postimg.org/ovg0x7a31/mxcp1377379393414092411.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/thc55jvm1/)
They were almost affordable when they came out. About £3.5K I think. That was in the 'Nineties though when I didn't even have 3.5 pence. You'd be very lucky indeed to find any for sale in the UK.
southall-1998
22-08-2017, 15:56
That LE20 tweeter has a 'sizzle' to it, the cardboard coned mid honks at you and the bass driver intrudes into the lower mid. The bass is tight from the driver, but the cabinet is underdamped, so you get odd sounds from the port. Other than that they are just dandy! :D
Buy a wig and wear it, Geoff. It'll dampen the tweeter nasties :eyebrows:
S.
walpurgis
22-08-2017, 15:56
You'd be very lucky indeed to find any for sale in the UK.
Surprisingly, I have seen these for sale once in a blue moon.
Audio Al
22-08-2017, 16:04
I have 2 pairs of JBL 100's :)
walpurgis
22-08-2017, 16:05
Buy a wig and wear it, Geoff. It'll dampen the tweeter nasties :eyebrows:
S.
I can't actually think of an answer to that Shane.
(well not a polite one anyway :lol:)
walpurgis
22-08-2017, 16:06
I have 2 pairs of JBL 100's :)
Inevitable really! :)
Surprisingly, I have seen these for sale once in a blue moon.
If you do again let me know as I would have them like a shot.
walpurgis
22-08-2017, 17:27
If you do again let me know as I would have them like a shot.
Ain't gonna be cheap mate. Probably in the same ballpark as used Tannoy Kensingtons.
What do they go for?
I was thinking 3 grand at a push.
walpurgis
22-08-2017, 17:33
What do they go for?
I was thinking 3 grand at a push.
Can't recall, but they'll be sought after. You might get lucky at three gand but I'm thinking likely a bit more.
southall-1998
22-08-2017, 17:35
Macca better start cutting down on the Twix buying ;)
S.
Macca better start cutting down on the Twix buying ;)
S.
And the 'everything else' buying too.
Anyways, perhaps Audio Al could be persuaded to part with one of his pairs of JBL L100?
Arkless Electronics
22-08-2017, 18:03
Just to add something pretty random on old speakers... I'm surprised the old white front Mission 770's don't have more of a following as a "desirable classic".... They were regarded as a "giant killer" in their day;)
Just to add something pretty random on old speakers... I'm surprised the old white front Mission 770's don't have more of a following as a "desirable classic".... They were regarded as a "giant killer" in their day;)
There doesn't seem to be many, or any, about for sale so that could be why. Agree they were a good combination of strengths.
Audio Al
24-08-2017, 09:09
Inevitable really! :)
I have been running them stacked using my John Wood amp and 4 ohm taps :)
Just to add something pretty random on old speakers... I'm surprised the old white front Mission 770's don't have more of a following as a "desirable classic".... They were regarded as a "giant killer" in their day;)
I heard these way back in the '80s - a Linn Isobarik killer (but then that's not difficult IMO).
Anyways, perhaps Audio Al could be persuaded to part with one of his pairs of JBL L100?
Are those the ones with the 'chocolate bar' sculptured foam grills? (available in blue, orange and chocolate brown. :))
If so, they are best listened to suspended from the ceiling (the speakers that is) and aren't too bad a listen.
L100/4311B great fun, imperfect but very enjoyable JBL only sold 500000 of them.
Mission 770 mk1 or 2 deserve to become classics, all barring a slight tubby colouration to the bass they were/are rather good in an SP1 sized box as I recall.
walpurgis
24-08-2017, 14:36
Are those the ones with the 'chocolate bar' sculptured foam grills? (available in blue, orange and chocolate brown. :))
Yes.
https://s27.postimg.org/p3f1t3oc3/mxcp71dc6a925bd9328af99ed3a33066e1e4.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
That's a later pair with the symetrical driver arrangement.
L100/4311B great fun, imperfect but very enjoyable JBL only sold 500000 of them.
Mission 770 mk1 or 2 deserve to become classics, all barring a slight tubby colouration to the bass they were/are rather good in an SP1 sized box as I recall.
It was the slightly tubby colouration that made them if you ask me. Similarly true of the JBL L100. Get that little bump in the bass just right and bingo! you have a speaker with mass appeal.
paulf-2007
24-08-2017, 16:05
I have 2 pairs of JBL 100's :)and only 2 ears......go figure.:)
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