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In my experience, folks on hi-fi forums often seem to suffer from this condition, so try it and see what you score:
http://aspergerstest.net/aq-test/
I scored 10 in the Option 1 test, which is about right, as I'm pretty far from being Aspergers.
Marco.
walpurgis
15-07-2017, 09:25
Done a similar test before. Got 22 with this one, 'borderline autistic'........... Hardly! :D
14 for me.. but i'm a nut and hate everyone including myself....bastard:eyebrows:
Got 26 on test 1 oh s...t ,that explains a lot about my son .BUGGER . No one worry I'm fine thanks for asking.lol.
Dunno about aspergers but I didn't have sufficient attention span to complete the test. Says a lot about me.
Lol! :D
If there was a test for being a 'zoomer', Grant and I would pass it with flying colours! :lol:
Marco.
Btw, I'd like to see all the mods take this test! ;)
Marco.
I scored a 7. Although I reckon if I had taken the test when I was 18, not 48, I would be up in the borderline area at least. Life has knocked the aspergers out of me lol.
Ha! Good one :eyebrows:
Marco.
narabdela
15-07-2017, 10:33
"a borderline indication of an autism spectrum disorder"
Doesn't surprise me. :cool:
What was your score. Hugh? :)
Marco.
In my experience, folks on hi-fi forums often seem to suffer from this condition, so try it and see what you score:
http://aspergerstest.net/aq-test/
I scored 10 in the Option 1 test, which is about right, as I'm pretty far from being Aspergers.
Marco.
Funnily enough that's exactly the score it gave me :).
Ali Tait
15-07-2017, 16:06
13 for me.
Stratmangler
15-07-2017, 16:36
9 for me, which rules obsessive behaviours out as being solely indicative of Asperger's Syndrome.
SteveTheShadow
15-07-2017, 16:36
24 for me, borderline autism, no surprise.:)
Stratmangler
15-07-2017, 16:38
24 for me, borderline autism, no surprise.:)
Yeah, but not over it.
SteveTheShadow
15-07-2017, 16:48
It's a strange one with me.
I obsess over details when it suits me, but will only look at the big picture when it doesn't.
A lot of things can become very black/white, especially in social/conflict situations where I completely fail to spot the nuances/body language/signals; just steaming on regardless, then either getting frustrated when someone gets mad at me ( cos I genuinely can't work out why they are annoyed) or just shut off and go blank on them.
Other times I am the perfect diplomat.
12 ... which, coincidentally, is also my mental age.
narabdela
15-07-2017, 17:35
What was your score. Hugh? :)
Marco.
30 :o
I got 30. I did one of these a few years ago and got about the same score. They Say :- "26-31 gives a borderline indication of an autism spectrum disorder. It is also possible to have aspergers or mild autism within this range".
Arkless Electronics
15-07-2017, 17:57
Hi Score! 31 Do I get a prize?:lol:
southall-1998
15-07-2017, 18:17
Scored 30....lol!
S.
Arkless Electronics
15-07-2017, 18:21
It could have done with a "neither agree nor disagree" option IMHO.... 3 or 4 of the 50 questions I had no preference one way or the other so put a random "slightly agree" or "slightly disagree" answer...
walpurgis
15-07-2017, 18:25
It could have done with a "neither agree nor disagree" option IMHO.... 3 or 4 of the 50 questions I had no preference one way or the other so put a random "slightly agree" or "slightly disagree" answer...
I thought so too.
think the majority of points will be at the extremes
Simon_LDT
15-07-2017, 18:43
23 for me, although could have answered some of those either way really. Think these kind of tests are pretty pointless as it's not always as black n' white as made out. I think most people will have some of these ''traits'' it's just how extreme you are about it.
I've definitely got OCD tendencies, but definitely would not say I actually have the disorder. I notice so many people say they have OCD or are 'anal' but actual OCD, I doubt it. Same as how many grade their records as 'near mint' when it's beat to shit!
I only got a miserly 12. Clearly I need to try harder. lol
Another interesting online personality test using the Briggs Myers model is here (http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp).
My type came up as an ENFP. The model has 16 broad personality types.
One issue I have with these type of tests is that it is difficult not to 'game' the test. Specifically one often steers ones answers to what we would like to be
rather than what we are.
I only got a miserly 12. Clearly I need to try harder. lol
Another interesting online personality test using the Briggs Myers model is here (http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp).
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Tried to answer honestly and came up with INTP
The description is quite close to me (I think) in some places, way off in others:
http://www.humanmetrics.com/personality/intp
walpurgis
15-07-2017, 21:08
Another interesting online personality test using the Briggs Myers model is here (http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp) .
Did that one too:
http://i66.tinypic.com/34p02zq.png
Sums me up quite well I thought! http://www.humanmetrics.com/personality/entj
So based on the very limited sample so far AoS forum moderators are often INTPs.
To quote in part:
INTPs are relatively easy-going and amenable to almost anything until their principles are violated, about which they may become outspoken and inflexible. They prefer to return, however, to a reserved albeit benign ambiance, not wishing to make spectacles of themselves.
:lol:
<ducks and takes cover> :)
walpurgis
15-07-2017, 21:17
You're asking for a clump sunshine! ;)
walpurgis
15-07-2017, 21:25
Idiot Test here: http://idiottest.net/
Just did the first one. Made me laugh! :D
Btw, I'd like to see all the mods take this test! ;)
Marco.
I scored 21, however if I were to do it again I could easily get a different result! I'm certainly developing OCD tendencies.
Idiot Test here: http://idiottest.net/
Just did the first one. Made me laugh! :D
I did most of them and passed each time = I'm a certified idiot. :lolsign:
walpurgis
15-07-2017, 21:37
I used to be a bit OCD. Generally too lazy to care much these days. But it still pisses me off when somebody hangs a toilet roll the wrong way round! :)
But it still pisses me off when somebody hangs a toilet roll the wrong way round! :)
Is there a correct way? I've often wondered about this vital point.
I'm just grateful when there is any when I need some. :rolleyes:
So based on the very limited sample so far AoS forum moderators are often INTPs.
To quote in part:
INTPs are relatively easy-going and amenable to almost anything until their principles are violated, about which they may become outspoken and inflexible. They prefer to return, however, to a reserved albeit benign ambiance, not wishing to make spectacles of themselves.
:lol:
<ducks and takes cover> :)
I'm an INFJ, but if I did it agin I could well get a different result.
walpurgis
15-07-2017, 21:52
I'm an INFJ, but if I did it agin I could well get a different result.
Did you read the full description of INFJ Barry?
http://www.humanmetrics.com/personality/infj
willbewill
15-07-2017, 21:54
33 for me but that was no surprise, I now know I've struggled with Aspergers and ADHD all my life (I was 63 today) but when I was young they were unheard of so my schooling involved a lot of canings and beatings and eventually being asked to leave.
walpurgis
15-07-2017, 21:55
my schooling involved a lot of canings and beatings and eventually being asked to leave.
We must be related. :D
walpurgis
15-07-2017, 21:58
Had to do another post so my number of posts now equals my age.
If you post again, it'll cock that right up! :lol:
Did you read the full description of INFJ Barry?
http://www.humanmetrics.com/personality/infj
No - couldn't be bothered!
Just read it - sums me up quite well. ;)
Tried to answer honestly and came up with INTP
The description is quite close to me (I think) in some places, way off in others:
http://www.humanmetrics.com/personality/intp
From memory, I'm INTP too and my view is the same as yours. It's a bit like horoscopes; some aspects of a 'sign' will fit some people, and one tends to overlook/ignore those aspects that don't. For example, I'm supposedly fascinated by numbers, whereas in reality I'm bemused by them.
walpurgis
15-07-2017, 22:19
However, horoscopes are pure 'flights of fancy'. Whereas, the test in question has some basis in logic.
willbewill
15-07-2017, 22:30
If you post again, it'll cock that right up! :lol:
So I deleted it :lol:
walpurgis
15-07-2017, 22:32
So I deleted it :lol:
:rolleyes:
:lolsign:
From memory, I'm INTP too and my view is the same as yours. It's a bit like horoscopes; some aspects of a 'sign' will fit some people, and one tends to overlook/ignore those aspects that don't. For example, I'm supposedly fascinated by numbers, whereas in reality I'm bemused by them.
Yes, complex maths makes my head hurt so I avoid it. Which isn't hard, thankfully. And if someone suggested having a game of trying to make as many words as possible from the letters on a mayonnaise jar I'd think they'd lost their mind.
I'm apparently exactly like my star sign though. I had one of those computer things done when they were all the rage in the early 90s, the one where you have to input where you were born and when you were born to the minute, not just the date. I thought the accompanying description was nothing like me but everyone who knew me including my girlfriend who I'd lived with for 3 years said it was spot on. So maybe there is something in it?
walpurgis
15-07-2017, 22:53
Yes, complex maths makes my head hurt so I avoid it
Me too as a rule. But if I apply myself, I can work complex sums out in my head to about eight or ten places. Usually when I'm in bed having trouble kipping.
I can work complex sums out in my head to about eight or ten places. Usually when I'm in bed having trouble kipping.
I'll stick with having a wank! :eyebrows:
Marco.
Did you read the full description of INFJ Barry?
http://www.humanmetrics.com/personality/infj
Took that test and I came up as being 'ENFJ':
This bit is *so* true of me: "Many ENFJs have tremendous power to manipulate others with their phenomenal interpersonal skills and unique salesmanship. But it's usually not meant as manipulation -- ENFJs generally believe in their dreams, and see themselves as helpers and enablers, which they usually are."
:exactly:
Marco.
Tried to answer honestly and came up with INTP
The description is quite close to me (I think) in some places, way off in others:
This bit I can definitely see in you, especially when it comes to politics:
"INTPs are pensive, analytical folks. They may venture so deeply into thought as to seem detached, and often actually are oblivious to the world around them."
;)
Marco.
This bit I can definitely see in you, especially when it comes to politics:
"INTPs are pensive, analytical folks. They may venture so deeply into thought as to seem detached, and often actually are oblivious to the world around them."
;)
Marco.
hey, i was same :steam:
LOL!
Well, unlike Macca, you show no evidence of the trait highlighted.
Marco.
The Black Adder
16-07-2017, 07:48
I had Asparagus last night... :)
interestingly I did it again and even though many answers ust have been different as the values were, but I still came out as a marginal intp...lol.. I read the full description and 90% of it isnt how I see myself
How we see ourselves and how other see us can be quite different. Sometimes because it is hard to see yourself objectively and sometimes because others project their own desires and motivations onto us and come to wrong conclusions about who we are. Perhaps the truth lies somewhere in between?
I'm apparently exactly like my star sign though. I had one of those computer things done when they were all the rage in the early 90s, the one where you have to input where you were born and when you were born to the minute, not just the date. I thought the accompanying description was nothing like me but everyone who knew me including my girlfriend who I'd lived with for 3 years said it was spot on. So maybe there is something in it?
I really don't see how there can be, given that the constellations are just random groups of stars, often millions of light years apart, that the human eye groups into vague shapes, and that even the planets are so far away that they cannot influence us (eg by their gravitational fields). Still, as the foo-merchants are prone to say, 'science can't explain everything'.
I really don't see how there can be, given that the constellations are just random groups of stars, often millions of light years apart, that the human eye groups into vague shapes, and that even the planets are so far away that they cannot influence us (eg by their gravitational fields). Still, as the foo-merchants are prone to say, 'science can't explain everything'.
had one of those programs on a bbc computer. it was on a floppy. it was usually pretty accurate, although i dont see why it was. generalised traits maybe
I had Asparagus last night... :)
more than i needed to know Josie;)
I really don't see how there can be, given that the constellations are just random groups of stars, often millions of light years apart, that the human eye groups into vague shapes, and that even the planets are so far away that they cannot influence us (eg by their gravitational fields). Still, as the foo-merchants are prone to say, 'science can't explain everything'.
I don't see how it can either but that doesn't mean it can't. As for science get back to me when it can explain why light only decides if it is a particle or a wave when we observe it.
I don't see how it can either but that doesn't mean it can't. As for science get back to me when it can explain why light only decides if it is a particle or a wave when we observe it.
It would also mean that everyone born at the same time on the same day would have identical characters.
It would also mean that everyone born at the same time on the same day would have identical characters.
No, because precise location matters too.
Which would still mean two babies born the same time in the same hospital would be very alike. Which is probably demonstrably incorrect. At least I'd hope it is. Nevertheless it could be argued that they may share some traits that are a result of that same alignment.
Truckletheuncivil
16-07-2017, 08:59
I don't see how it can either but that doesn't mean it can't. As for science get back to me when it can explain why light only decides if it is a particle or a wave when we observe it.
Extrovert light waves hoping you'll wave back. Introverted light hopes you won't notice a single particle whizzing past.
i got 18 which means im normal or so they say lol
Extrovert light waves hoping you'll wave back. Introverted light hopes you won't notice a single particle whizzing past.
:lol:
walpurgis
16-07-2017, 18:47
A man showing his metal! ;)
I've never been diagnosed, but it's almost certain I do and have done much reading on it in the last ten years or so (one online 'test' I did in the last few days I scored 39 out of 50 with 32 being the approximate lower limit- oh shit, it's the test linked to by Marco!). Trouble is, 'we' develop strategies to cope with the worst of it as we get older and go out of our way to avoid difficult social situations, so it becomes more difficult for a proper diagnosis. I was able to chat about audio for hours to customers, but social chit-chat, no way. My better half puts up with a lot and she tells me I'm better than when we first met twenty two years ago when I was thirty eight, but I still don't 'read' people well and trying to understand a conversation in a noisy crowded room is still beyond me, so I don't socialise...
Sorry to hear that, Dave, and glad you're managing to cope with it.
However, have you ever thought that your Aspergers may have been a contributory factor to the 'difficulties' you've had on some forums, specifically why you and I have fallen out on the past? :)
Marco.
It's not necessarily an affliction or disability as such, as 'we' don't know any different and can usually navigate around it all in life to some extent.
One thing I'm learning later on life is to try to let things go and walk away of possible. Loads of 'stuff' going on this year - not necessarily bad, just another page in the book being started, and I can't cope with it all as all routines are out the window at present. I can't really answer your question properly except to say that 'we' are utterly convinced we are right when we experience and discover things in our chosen field/hobby/life-obsession, mapping them almost photographically in our memories for regurgitation decades later and finding it most uncomfortable when someone else disagrees with those memories and experiences. I've had to realise that fifty years is a hell of a long time and findings then may not always be the same now with modern technology and thinking - I mean, we're hearing old loudspeakers in good working order probably better than they've ever sounded, pickup cartridges too I suspect, although one or two vintage amps I've heard again in recent times are excellent now as they undoubtedly were then. Speakers I knew when brand new, won't always sound that way thirty years later, Mission (almost anything) for example, as the tweeters seem to change so much with time...
I'm probably talking crap again but just to give one in-audio example of how 'we' may act. The 'new' Doctor, a lady actor, was announced today for the show Doctor Who. Now, I grew up with a male lead ever since I became hooked on this blasted show back in December 1963, half way through the first Dalek story (I have strong opinions about them too, but not for here ;)). I'm most convinced that the lead should be a strong but quirky male character and couldn't understand the media fervour for a female lead, as to me it just seems 'wrong.' Today's announcement of a lady lead brought initially an angry reaction and I'm all set to stomp off in a royal huff and never watch it again, BUT... Reality is that despite being a TV show that was a huge part of my childhood and remains something I'll tune into when it's on, of course I'll give this lady a chance to see what the big sex-change regeneration means and brings to the formula...
Werner Berghofer
16-07-2017, 21:28
Marco,
I scored 10 in the Option 1 test, which is about right, as I'm pretty far from being Aspergers.I scored 27 in the Option 1 test:
26–31 gives a borderline indication of an autism spectrum disorder. It is also possible to have aspergers or mild autism within this range.
Maybe because English is not my native language? ;-)
Werner.
All interesting stuff, Dave, and thanks for sharing. We are clearly very different people, and I'm fortunate that I don't suffer from the same things you do.
I can't really answer your question properly except to say that 'we' are utterly convinced we are right when we experience and discover things in our chosen field/hobby/life-obsession, mapping them almost photographically in our memories for regurgitation decades later and finding it most uncomfortable when someone else disagrees with those memories and experiences.
I think you're absolutely right, especially with the first bit. In terms of the last bit (in bold), thankfully that's something that doesn't bother me, as I'm not 'married to my opinions'.
What bothers me (in a major way) is when someone dismisses my memories and experiences as "imagined", or unreal in some other way, simply because the contents sometimes can't be confirmed by evidence from 'currently accepted wisdom' (read as 'Johnny's Book of Physics').
I've had to realise that fifty years is a hell of a long time and findings then may not always be the same now with modern technology and thinking - I mean, we're hearing old loudspeakers in good working order probably better than they've ever sounded, pickup cartridges too I suspect, although one or two vintage amps I've heard again in recent times are excellent now as they undoubtedly were then.
I completely agree, hence why our memories and experiences occasionally need to be replaced and updated, with current practical experience ;)
I'm probably talking crap again but just to give one in-audio example of how 'we' may act. The 'new' Doctor, a lady actor, was announced today for the show Doctor Who. Now, I grew up with a male lead ever since I became hooked on this blasted show back in December 1963, half way through the first Dalek story (I have strong opinions about them too, but not for here. I'm most convinced that the lead should be a strong but quirky male character and couldn't understand the media fervour for a female lead, as to me it just seems 'wrong.' Today's announcement of a lady lead brought initially an angry reaction and I'm all set to stomp off in a royal huff and never watch it again
Lol... As a fellow Dr Who fan (although from a different era than you), don't get me started on that shite... Dr Who should be a man, and his assistant a woman - end of! That's how the 'chemistry' works.
They've bastardised the formula once too often now (by 'kiddifying' and politically correcting it beyond all recognition), so I doubt I'll be watching it again. Bring back the days of Tom Baker and Sarah-Jane Smith!!
Marco.
Werner Berghofer
16-07-2017, 21:36
Martin
Tried to answer honestly and came up with INTPdid the same. Result: ENTJ.
Werner.
My view is that Dr Who is a children's programme, so I don't give a monkey's who they cast in the title role. The last time I watched it regularly, Tom Baker was the Doctor. (I did watch an awful one-off with Paul McGann as The Doctor in the mid '90s).
Spectral Morn
16-07-2017, 21:49
18
What bothers me (in a major way) is when someone dismisses my memories and experiences as "imagined", or unreal in some other way, simply because the contents sometimes can't be confirmed by evidence from 'currently accepted wisdom' (read as 'Johnny's Book of Physics').
I am blessed/cursed with a very poor memory of events, so someone else's version of what happened is far more likely to be correct than mine. As an example, my sisters and I were reminiscing about our childhood a while back. We all went to the same infant and junior school, and I said I vaguely remembered going from our school to church for some reason. My elder sister said 'We did that on the first Friday of each month when we were at primary school!', which, given I was at the school for six years, must have meant I did that seventy-odd times, and yet I'd almost completely forgotten about it.
My wife can remember her primary school in great detail; what the classrooms were like, the names of all her teachers, etc. To me it's just a blur, apart from the odd moment of excitement, as when another boy and I were carrying a crate of empty milk bottles along the corridor, and he let go of his end. That was the loudest thing I'd ever heard.
Ronksley
16-07-2017, 21:59
Try a few the questions annoyed me assumes one is part of society
Think this test is awful sure not psycho dr would rate it as in anyway meaningful
A questions like this
I usually notice car number plates or similar strings of information.
Excuse me sir can i see the unique code of your consumerist possessive Does it have a serial number ?
Is too full of society assumptions to make the test in anyway valid to me cars are a toxic danger the way they are logged to civil servants is completely irrelevant
I am fascinated by dates.
Of course I fucking am
I am single so yes one of my mine obsessions is getting dates so i might stand a chance of getting my end away
11/6/1997 mean anything to you guys
11/6/1997 mean anything to you guys
Is it your birthday?
Ronksley
16-07-2017, 22:02
I find social situations easy.
Another nosense question
Yes i do
because i don not care what people think of me
Ronksley
16-07-2017, 22:07
Is it your birthday?
No
Just refuse to have an ability to think of dates as having significance
Flanders are just related to how menu time this and that spin around that and this etc
and i believe the moments or moments or momentums are more important
walpurgis
16-07-2017, 22:14
I like dates. Eat a few every day. :)
Ronksley
16-07-2017, 22:17
I like dates. Eat a few every day. :)
Should help keep you regular
http://newsthump.com/2017/07/16/fictional-time-travellers-dont-have-vaginas-insist-morons/
Travelling through space and time in a police box requires a penis, according to several Internet morons this evening.
As Jodie Whittaker was confirmed as the new Doctor, lots of angry idiots insisted that the genitals of the Doctor play an essential role in the universe in which he resides.
Fan of made up science fiction television stories, Simon Williams, told us,”Yes I am angry about Jodie Whittaker being made the next Doctor.
“But I’m also angry that they have made me so angry about the lack of a penis in a TV show – which sounds extremely weird when I say it like that.
“But it’s not weird, it’s normal. Yes it is, shut up.
“Just because Gallifrey doesn’t actually exist and time travel isn’t really possible, doesn’t mean the writers can just go around making stuff up about the people they’ve made up.”
“Actually, that’s literally what we can do,” explained one of the show’s writers.
“The Doctor has a long history of not using his penis to resolve issues across time and space, and we’re confident that Jodie Whittaker will have no issues in continuing that fine tradition.”
My view is that Dr Who is a children's programme, so I don't give a monkey's who they cast in the title role.
Yes, but it was once a children's programme that also appealed to adults, simply because it was produced in a more 'adult' way (and it was genuinely scary, through the eerie and dark atmosphere the stories created). Watch a Dr Who episode from the 70s/early 80s and it's a totally different beast.
These days it's more like a Harry Potter fantasy adventure (too much focus on special effects and not enough on quality acting or story lines), than a sci-fi series, with its child-like production, immature content and a propensity to pander to political correctness (hence the introduction now of a female doctor) - I'm surprised she's not also black! :doh:
Not that I have any problem with black people, but if they're going to play the political correctness card, they may as well go the whole hog!!
Bollox to it.
Marco.
Marco,I scored 27 in the Option 1 test:
26–31 gives a borderline indication of an autism spectrum disorder. It is also possible to have aspergers or mild autism within this range.
Maybe because English is not my native language? ;-)
Hi Werner,
Not sure. Are there such tests available in German? If so, take one and report back! :)
Marco.
Doctor Who was never intended originally as 'just' a children's programme you know. I seem to recall it was funded by the main BBC Drama wing rather than 'Children's TV.' In the 60's, the companions were chosen to keep Mum and Dad involved as well (oh I dunno, Polly, Jamie, Zoe and 'leather lungs' Victoria) and the first two, Ian and Barbara, were kind-of links to the teachers little ones like me had back then with granddaughter Susan more like us. The Dalek's Masterplan as an example was written so well and listening to the audio's now, with memories of its first broadcast and strong memories of the ageing and death of Sara Kingdom, her body becoming a skeleton and crumbling to dust, still sends shivers down my spine as it was a bold thing to show to a young audience (I was nine!). Sarah Jane was probably the best loved of all the companions as she was one of the few able to keep Pertwee's and Baker's on-screen ego's in check I thought. By this time, the small Hartnell loving kids had grown into teenagers, so the likes of Jo Grant* and Sarah Jane were perfect for hormonal teenage boys to lust after I thought - they were great actresses too in their own way and deserving of our fondness now (*batty but lovable actress Katy Manning was brilliant in recent times in the 'Who related Iris Wildthyme audios...).
Sorry for the thread drift. Doctor Who seemed to have the ability to get kids hooked over it's long life and many of these kids stayed with it as they grew up. Some scripts were childish to a degree, but others definitely had more mature themes with thinking about. My eighteen year old son began early the same - he was six in 2005 when the show was re-launched, although he went off the show in the Tennant era, but has all the season DVD's and has watched them since broadcast, tackling me about stories I soon forgot... We watched this last season with increasing disbelief, fervently wishing Capaldi had better scripts and that 'Bill' hadn't kept going on about being a lesbian every episode....
Yeah, we 'Aspies' do like our set routines and when they change, it throws us big-time. Interesting thing, life. Throws up all sorts...
Yes, but it was once a children's programme that also appealed to some adults, simply because it was produced in a more 'adult' way (and it was genuinely scary, through the eerie and dark atmosphere the stories created). Watch a Dr Who episode from the 70s/early 80s and it's a totally different beast.
So it's a children's programme that's been crap for over 30 years in your opinion. As long as its current audience is happy with it, I don't see the problem. I know that some people get hung up over which version of Star Trek is best, or pine for Blake's Seven, UFO, Captain Scarlet or other sci-fi programmes they recall from their childhood. It just seems odd to me, like worrying about who presents Blue Peter (a quick check reveals that they are currently a woman, a black bloke, and a white bloke with a stupid hairstyle).
walpurgis
17-07-2017, 08:47
it's a children's programme that's been crap for over 30 years
I'd go along with that. :)
Yeah, we 'Aspies' do like our set routines and when they change, it throws us big-time.
And yet Dr Who changes constantly! I can barely remember the William Hartnell Doctor (maybe we didn't have a TV then), so Jon Pertwee is the 'right' person in the role for me. Tom Baker seemed OTT, and anyway I was thinking I was bit too old to be watching a kid's programme by the time he took over. Soon after, I was without a TV again, so the Dr Who habit was broken.
walpurgis
17-07-2017, 09:11
I last consciously paid attention to Doctor Who, when Jon Pertwee starred in the early seventies. He was perfect for the role, bringing a humour and eccentricity, that the rather bluff William Hartnell and Patrick Troughton did not have. And Katy Manning was cute.
Since then, I've only seen it when others in our home have watched it and from what I saw, it did not seem as good.
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After observing the behaviour of my brother in law at a recent party I can only assume he is either aspergers or is entirely devoid of tact.
So much so that I now introduce him to people like "this is xxxx, my brother in law, he's a tactless f**ker" so as they don't get offended. My sister seems to love him though:scratch:
Doctor Who was never intended originally as 'just' a children's programme you know. I seem to recall it was funded by the main BBC Drama wing rather than 'Children's TV.' In the 60's, the companions were chosen to keep Mum and Dad involved as well...
Indeed (which is why it was so good), and for me that's patently obvious when you do comparisons with the current version, and it's why now (as an adult) it puts me off, as that 'kiddification' gets on my nerves.
The other major difference, and for me an integral part of what Dr Who was all about, was the accompanying superb sound effects, created by the BBC Radiophonic Workshop, which added to the dark and eerie atmosphere, during stories, I loved in the original series.
That's nonexistent now, and been replaced with (often) over the top special effects, designed to appeal to today's kids, with low-attention spans. Hey ho......
Marco.
So it's a children's programme that's been crap for over 30 years in your opinion.
Nope, not quite. It's gradually been getting 'crapper', post Tom Baker, to the point of where it is now. Of the new doctors, Christopher Eccleston and David Tennant were half decent, as were their respective assistants, but the rest for me haven't been worthy of the position.
As long as its current audience is happy with it, I don't see the problem.
Indeed, but people like me (and I suspect Dave) would've liked to have seen it remain truer to its original roots, as that format is what attracted us to the programme in the first place. In that respect, it's rather like it is with music...
Often a band's first album is their best album, and they can never quite capture or recreate the 'original sound'/vibe, or what fans considered was best about that first album, in later albums.
Essentially, when you 'taste' something you like, you simply want MORE of the SAME, but next time perhaps even better, not a completely different flavour (or product) altogether.
And so it is with Dr Who. 1963-1981: the golden years! After that, forget it...
Marco.
Doctor Who may have changing scenario's, but the broad format was the same and the escapism may have helped, I don't know I remember hating every new actor to play the role at first. Only now with the recordings on the shelf, can I go back and see that these 'new' characters weren't bad at all, each bringing a fresh aspect to the character while staying true to the original concept - in my opinion. My favourite Doctor has to be Patrick Troughton - I loathed him at first in his first story (Power of the Daleks), yet he was deliberately trying to throw the audience a little before settling into the wonderful, intelligent and naughty/irreverent character he became, such a shame that so much of his work for the show is missing and possibly lost forever now. Pertwee too I disliked, yet he developed a wonderful almost fatherly kind of way and of course the action-man side appealed to teenage boys, the 'Brigadier' (and the needle between them) also inforcing that role. The current stuff, most of it, rewards a second look as there's so much going on you can't take it in on first watching. Only the recent 'Moffat-era' stories cause me to run from the hills although that may change. A show that was an important part of my childhood and I'll never fully abandon it. This new gender-change will rock it to the core though, so we'll see. Can't see young boys playing with a female Doctor model against the toy Daleks and Cybermen though, so a potential toy revenue channel may have been blocked from the start.
Back to Aspies and audio... I can think of one speaker designer who is almost certainly off the scale with his attitude and utter blind dedication to his products, design procedures and so on and I'm sure there are others in this industry. The problem comes when they know a lot about a little yet think they know everything about it all (Roy Gandy was very much like this in the early days of Rega and for years, there was a kind of patronising smugness permeating through the company). If I come across like this I apologise... Also been reading the 1976 Angus McKenzie speaker tests he did for the first HiFi Choice. My Gawd he was scathing of so many models and didn't hold back in an almost rude way - another utterly dedicated soul who didn't suffer fools gladly I was told. Some of the smaller models may have been blown in the high-power tests apparently done before the listening tests were carried out though and I remember when the Audiomaster Image 2's came back after a rotten review, A severely upset Robin Marshall showed us the destroyed crossovers with overheated tweeter coils and melted caps - severe damage as I recall - maybe this is what started him on the road to ever simpler speaker designs, culminating in the (to me) endearing Epos ES14. The Audiomaster 3/5A's (also not liked as much as the Chartwell equivalent, when they should have been similar - only the BBC had centre-line identical ones and these had XLR connectors on the back) were also overheated, but everything still worked I remember.
Watched up til tom baker went, although not avidlŷ. Wasnt a big telly adictvwhen young. Didnt have much tv anyway, initial,y only a couple of channels and not all day. May only have been one
There were only really a few good episodes in the Pertwee/Baker era. Before it was rubbish and after Baker it was rubbish again. Did watch some of the Tennant episodes but he carried it really, the stories were pretty weak on the whole.
My favourite stories remain Genesis of The Daleks, The Ark In Space, Robots Of Death and The Pyramids of Mars. Watched them all again last year. Now these could be remade with a bigger budget and some CGI effects to tart them up a bit and they would be tremendous. Ironic how back then they did not have the budget or technical capability to make the most of the great scripts, when now that they do they don't have any great scripts to work with.
The writers ought to re-watch those classics and learn from them instead of obsessing over who is gay and lesbian. Do they not realise that no-one who is not gay or lesbian gives a toss about that shit? They marred the otherwise brilliant Sherlock Holmes series with that crap, not enough to ruin it but they tried their hardest.
As for new Doctor being a woman, who cares? They buried the original concept of the show years ago already. It can't get any worse now whatever they do.
walpurgis
17-07-2017, 10:54
Nobody seems to mention Sylvester McCoy. I agree. Probably best forgotten! :D
As for new Doctor being a woman, who cares? They buried the original concept of the show years ago already. It can't get any worse now whatever they do.
Good point, but in making that decision I suspect that they'll have lost most of the show's original fans, so let's hope for the sake of the producers that it doesn't adversely affect the viewing figures.
Marco.
Nobody seems to mention Sylvester McCoy. I agree. Probably best forgotten! :D
Sylv could do manipulative and quietly menacing, but get him to shout and it all fell down big time. I thought that the classic series got a lot better in it's final series or two after a dire few years before (the Cartmel 'Masterplan' was supposed to help resurrect it) just before it was cancelled, but I was told that by then, everyone wanted the series gone and probably didn't know what to do with it by then. Putting it up against Corrie, which had some very strong storylines at the time) was just the thing to do to make an excuse for low audience figures.
Try the Big Finish audios. So very good in the most part and the production is good too for a good stereo to get its teeth into. I'm currently starting again with the Dalek Empire series (Sooooosan Mendezzzzz - in a rumbling deep voice... ;)) which I find absolutely brilliant ;)
Werner Berghofer
18-07-2017, 06:50
Marco,
Are there such tests available in German? If so, take one and report back! :)been there, done this: Same score, same result. The tests available in German usually are the same test you originally posted here, with just the questions translated to German.
Don’t give a f*ck about the result, actually it’s nothing new for me. As long as my bicycle loves me, everything is just fine.
Werner.
Don’t give a f*ck about the result, actually it’s nothing new for me. As long as my bicycle loves me, everything is just fine.
Lol - good attitude, Werner! Psychos unite :D
Marco.
I only got a miserly 12. Clearly I need to try harder. lol
Another interesting online personality test using the Briggs Myers model is here (http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp).
My type came up as an ENFP. The model has 16 broad personality types.
One issue I have with these type of tests is that it is difficult not to 'game' the test. Specifically one often steers ones answers to what we would like to be
rather than what we are.
I got ENFJ on that one.
ISTP for me. Just like Frank Zappa and Burt Reynolds.
Am an INTP here. Taken a few tests and always the same results, just took that test linked above - there must be something in it? As for Asperger's, nope, but was an ADHD kid now thankfully the H is now gone, so ADD. All this really means is that my attention span is very low unless I am engaged, but if I am, then I enter what is known as "hyper concentration". Am a constant daydreamer, something common to ADD and INTP.
Interesting common outcome regarding INTP:
"You have marginal or no preference of Thinking over Feeling (1%)"
jandl100
24-07-2017, 12:42
22 - which didn't surprise me. I don't have aspergers tendencies much at all, not particularly obsessive about anything, but I am quite strongly anti-social, especially in groups larger than 2 or 3.
I think a female Dr Who is a great idea.
Mind you, the show has been crap since the demise of Patrick Troughton, imho! :ner:
Stratmangler
24-07-2017, 13:09
ISTP for me. Just like Frank Zappa and Burt Reynolds.
We're in good company, you and I.
... but I am quite strongly anti-social, especially in groups larger than 2 or 3.
And, in that respect, you're not alone. However, as I'm completely the opposite (very little fazes me socially), I've always wondered what causes such 'shyness' in someone? :)
Marco.
jandl100
24-07-2017, 14:39
I was probably dropped on my head when I was a baby.
Lol! I'm being serious though, as it's quite common.
Me? I'll chat to anyone (friends or complete strangers), in any environment and in front of any number of people. Plus, I'm usually the one you'll hear who's leading the conversation!
'Shy and retiring' I am not :D
Marco.
dont think its shyness with most, its just they dont like lot of folk and noise. like some folk dont like heights and others dont like scrambling into tight holes(except you there mate;) )Wouldnt catch me pot holing, but dont, or didnt mind heights. climbed up many scaffold or high ladders.
Yep, feeling overwhelmed and dreading small talk can easily be misconstrued as shyness.
What is 'shyness' then?
I can understand dreading small talk and social situations if they are going to be boring. But surely only a shy person would dread them regardless.
jandl100
24-07-2017, 15:34
I don't do small talk, and feel uncomfortable when in situations where it seems to be required.
I'm quite happy to chatter away about specific things of interest, though.
That is a kind of shyness.
I think shyness is rooted in self-consiousness, but social anxiety is more broad.
What is 'shyness' then?
I can understand dreading small talk and social situations if they are going to be boring. But surely only a shy person would dread them regardless.
not nes.... Its sometimes that some folk just cant be bothered with a lot of folk about and maybe having to shout etc. My son has agoraphobia but I dont. Neither of us likes to be in crowds, although to be fair I dont panic; just cant stand the hassle. prefer smaller numbers. I didnt mind pub being reasonable busy when young but didnt like it crammed to rafters....didnt like discos either as they were toooo loud:D but im not shy
walpurgis
24-07-2017, 15:43
dont think its shyness with most, its just they dont like lot of folk and noise. like some folk dont like heights and others dont like scrambling into tight holes(except you there mate;) )Wouldnt catch me pot holing, but dont, or didnt mind heights. climbed up many scaffold or high ladders.
I don't mind socialising (with most people). But I don't like crowded and noisy environments. Does anybody?
Don't mind caves too much, but can't bear heights, as in ladders and scaffolds etc. Strangely though, trotting round the coastal paths a foot from the edge of a 150 foot cliff doesn't bother me too much.
dont think its shyness with most, its just they dont like lot of folk and noise
I can't stand a lot of folk and noise either, and much prefer peace and quiet - *BUT* it doesn't make me dread the former, or ill, if I have to endure it for a period of time, so I think we're talking about something different here.
Also, I hate small talk (much prefer chatting about subjects I'm interested in with folk I know), but again it wouldn't duly perturb me if for some reason facing it (with strangers) was unavoidable.
That's why in the Aspergers test, on any question relating to the issue of 'shyness', I answered indicating the opposite! :)
Marco.
jandl100
24-07-2017, 15:51
I just can't think of what to say to the buggers! :scratch:
- and I am deeply uninterested in what colour they are re-tiling their bathroom. :lol:
Oh I know, I can't stand that sort of mind-numbing shite either - the pishanto some women appear to love indulging in for hours! :doh:
I'm also deeply un-nosey, so couldn't give a flying fuck what the latest 'local gossip' is [who's had a baby, an affair with the postman, or changed the colour of their curtains]. It's one of the reasons why we don't have neighbours!
Detached houses rule ;)
Marco.
was at a very busy party at neighbours and I seemed to be holding the floor. everyone asked me to go to their parties lol.. they said I knew lots of stuff and had great sense of humour, and was not afraid to slag folk off and talk about tits:eek: well, i was on my second bottle of best bourbon
walpurgis
24-07-2017, 15:59
Erm. This appears to be 'small talk'!
:D
jandl100
24-07-2017, 16:01
Ah, so maybe after 61 years I am getting the hang of it. ;)
Btw - what colour is your bathroom tiled?
walpurgis
24-07-2017, 16:06
Btw - what colour is your bathroom tiled?
Army 'green drab' to match the rest of the house! :)
jandl100
24-07-2017, 16:07
Army 'green drab' to match the rest of the house! :)
Gosh, that's fascinating.
walpurgis
24-07-2017, 16:11
Gosh, that's fascinating.
Yup. Goes with the camouflage curtains.
Erm. This appears to be 'small talk'!
:D
no, i was probably trying insult some folk, and shag the women knowing me :D
Ah, so maybe after 61 years I am getting the hang of it. ;)
Btw - what colour is your bathroom tiled?
Sshh... We won't mention your brown carpets! :lol::D
;)
Marco.
And, in that respect, you're not alone. However, as I'm completely the opposite (very little fazes me socially), I've always wondered what causes such 'shyness' in someone? :)
Marco.
I think it's generally a heightened awareness of self; the constant fear that 'everyone's looking at me' (though they usually aren't). Often shyness coincides with adolescence, when the body is changing and there's emotional changes going on too; some people grow out of it as they become more comfortable in their skin, as it were, others don't. It may be partly a cultural/generational thing too; until relatively recently children in England were expected to be seen and not heard, especially out in public, so parents would discourage children from talking to adults, with the result that the children became tongue-tied.
I just can't think of what to say to the buggers! :scratch:
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I was the same until I worked in sales. I was shy as a boy though, like Joe says we were brought up not to bother the adults by talking to them or indeed engaging with them in any way. Was even worse with girls. no sisters and all boys school, they might as well have been a separate species for me as a teenager.
they are a separate species mate. ;)
I think it's generally a heightened awareness of self; the constant fear that 'everyone's looking at me' (though they usually aren't). Often shyness coincides with adolescence, when the body is changing and there's emotional changes going on too; some people grow out of it as they become more comfortable in their skin, as it were, others don't. It may be partly a cultural/generational thing too; until relatively recently children in England were expected to be seen and not heard, especially out in public, so parents would discourage children from talking to adults, with the result that the children became tongue-tied.
Thanks for that, and I can appreciate where you're coming from, although I had a somewhat different upbringing.
Marco.
I was the same until I worked in sales. I was shy as a boy though, like Joe says we were brought up not to bother the adults by talking to them or indeed engaging with them in any way. Was even worse with girls. no sisters and all boys school, they might as well have been a separate species for me as a teenager.
Lol... Just shows you how different we are! I've never really been shy, even as an only child, as I was brought up used to adult company and mixing with them from an early age. As such, from as soon as I could hold a decent conversation, I was always an opinionated wee bugger! :D
What also helped, in that respect, was working in my dad's chip shop and interacting with the general public, which happened from my early teens. Also, the schools I went to were all mixed, and I had no problem chatting to (or chatting up) girls! ;)
Marco.
And, in that respect, you're not alone. However, as I'm completely the opposite (very little fazes me socially), I've always wondered what causes such 'shyness' in someone? :)
Marco.
There are probably as many answers as there are 'shy' people. One possibility is that a person has no small-talk or no interest in small-talk which can be uncomfortable, or maybe in a larger group one doesn't have the urge to 'compete' for attention which again can be awkward. The list is endless. Turning it round, Can you say what it is that makes you so sociably well adjusted? I bet it's not a universal correlation.
Edit: I see your later post, but had already posted this
Lol... Don't know about "socially well-adjusted", Mark! :D
I'm just not in the slightest bit shy and completely comfortable talking to anyone, in any environment I've experienced so far. I've done public speaking in the past too, in front of 100s of people. It's just not something that bothers me.
There are plenty of other things that do, though! :)
Marco.
P.S Just noticed your edit, but replied anyway.
I don't do small talk, and feel uncomfortable when in situations where it seems to be required.
I'm quite happy to chatter away about specific things of interest, though.
That is a kind of shyness.
Small Talk! Most people talk bollox and only about the stuff they want to talk about. Can't stand being one to one with someone I don't know, or barely know. I would rather put a scalding hot Steam Iron to my cheek and hold it there all night, much less painful. If they do, as an afterthought ask you anything about yourself I make something up which I hope will make them clam up, like "what do you do"..."Oh i'm a roadsweeper"
Try serial-killer next time ��
Small Talk! Most people talk bollox and only about the stuff they want to talk about.
That's fine for me; I'm a good listener and am quite happy if people blether on about stuff and I just need to smile and nod. Where I have a problem (sometimes, and a lot less frequently than when I was in my teens) is thinking of things to say myself. Once I get started though, it's hard to shut me up.
walpurgis
25-07-2017, 22:27
Once I get started though, it's hard to shut me up.
We've noticed! ;)
(sorry, couldn't resist :))
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