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Ian7633
14-07-2017, 16:31
After lots of chatting with Oliver ( Bigman80) and Jamie ( Jamie123) I decided to take the plunge and buy Oliver's Mission 774 tonearm. The combination of the Toshiba SR 370 and 774 works very well so I had to give it a go. I was very happy with the SME 3009 but in the quest for improvement I am very pleased to report that the 774 outperforms the SME, there isn't a vast difference and in fact they do sound similar but the 774 just does it better. There is a sense of space that the SME lacks and the mid and treble have a clarity and sweetness about them. The bass is maybe a tad deeper but it has more punch. These are all quite small improvements but improvements they are.
Not so important but can't be avoided is that the 774 is an ugly little spud and with the 2M Black bolted on it will never win a beauty contest but then neither will I, we make a grand pair. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170714/9392b38945a4d6336793d9c9b36dcb70.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170714/33f42004c7053344dd10048ef11fd3be.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170714/8bafd521d73bc4fd24f62c945f14fc87.jpg

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mayebaza
14-07-2017, 16:50
Never heard a bad sounding 774 👍

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walpurgis
14-07-2017, 17:23
I love the way the 774 looks (and sounds) on the SR-370.

http://i64.tinypic.com/2ike453.jpg

Ian7633
14-07-2017, 17:44
I love the way the 774 looks (and sounds) on the SR-370.

http://i64.tinypic.com/2ike453.jpg
I notice you have an armrest to keep things safe, is it the standard Toshiba item or an aftermarket one?. Oliver thinks a Technics one could be adapted but any thoughts would be welcome.

Bigman80
14-07-2017, 17:50
Ah! There she is. I love that tonearm. I'm glad it's doing the business for you mate. I did say it is better than the SME.

Looks ok with the 2m on too. Almost space age.

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walpurgis
14-07-2017, 17:51
I notice you have an armrest to keep things safe, is it the standard Toshiba item or an aftermarket one?. Oliver thinks a Technics one could be adapted but any thoughts would be welcome.

It's a Japanese item, could be a Technics one, but can't recall. I mounted it on the top of a dustbug base which is stuck to the TT with thin double sided sticky tape. The Technics items are about a fiver on ebay, but other arm rests are worth looking at too.

karma67
14-07-2017, 17:52
Ah! There she is. I love that tonearm. I'm glad it's doing the business for you mate. I did say it is better than the SME.

Looks ok with the 2m on too. Almost space age.

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yep, about time too,i was beginning to think sausage fingers had struck again :lol:

Bigman80
14-07-2017, 18:18
yep, about time too,i was beginning to think sausage fingers had struck again [emoji38]
Lol.

It doesn't look bad at all does it. The arm and table combo have read synergy.

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Ian7633
15-07-2017, 00:14
yep, about time too,i was beginning to think sausage fingers had struck again :lol:

I must have been having a good day Jamie, my fists of ham managed to do the job without incident :ner:

Bigman80
15-07-2017, 00:50
I must have been having a good day Jamie, my fists of ham managed to do the job without incident :ner:
Hahaha

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drSM
15-07-2017, 07:31
shit i thot Oliver pilled that sale
;)

karma67
15-07-2017, 07:59
what does the 'og' after mission 774 in both your signature lists stand for ?

Ian7633
15-07-2017, 08:36
what does the 'og' after mission 774 in both your signature lists stand for ?

I don't know, I believe it's just it's full name.

Macca
15-07-2017, 12:51
Original Gangster?

Ian7633
15-07-2017, 12:55
Organ Grinder

struth
15-07-2017, 13:19
outer gimbal

Martyn Miles
15-07-2017, 18:54
I know this will put the 'Cat amongst the Pigeons', but the below is the
way I hear it.
I've been running an LP12 with a Mission 774 arm and a MC cartridge for years.
Due to circumstances the MC is now in an Acoustic Research XA Turntable.

It sounds superb.

After some investigation and detective work, I can see that most modern suspended
turntables are a copy of the original XA.

Edgar Villchur & Acoustic Research were innovators in many areas of audio.
They certainly got it 'right first time' with the XA.

struth
15-07-2017, 19:01
great tt's AR

Bigman80
15-07-2017, 19:38
shit i thot Oliver pilled that sale
;)

I did after i agreed in principle to sell the Alphason to Ian, when the decision to keep the Alphason happened, Ian got in first!

karma67
15-07-2017, 19:46
i loved my first proper turntable,an AR 'the turntable' with a 774 fitted,i was very happy back then before all this chasing the sound started.

Jimbo
15-07-2017, 20:23
The 2M working well with the Mission Ian? :)

Ian7633
16-07-2017, 18:16
The 2M working well with the Mission Ian? :)

It is working very nicely with the 774, I'm getting quite good at setting it up now There is a clue as to when it's at the right VTA, if the bottom of the cartridge body is dead level with the record surface then the VTA should be about right. Graph paper and a mirror work perfectly.....I should give the credit for this to Jamie, he's a clever old thing.

walpurgis
16-07-2017, 18:35
VTA needs may vary from one cartridge to another and not all necessarily give their best when level (parallel to the record). I experiment to find what seems best.

Ian7633
16-07-2017, 19:57
Very true, they all have their optimum settings. The 2M Black is well known for being very fussy about VTA and the parallel cartridge body is a very good guide for it although it's still worth trying slightly lower or higher VTA.