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Are Charlie Bigham ready meals the best 'fresh' ones or am I wrong?
Are Cook the best frozen ready meals or am I wrong?
What's yer fave ready meal?
Mine changes over time but Bigham's Fish Pie is great. Hard to beat that when trying at home.
walpurgis
06-07-2017, 19:04
Never eat ready made frozen meals myself. The grand kids like the Iceland roast chicken dinners though.
Are you posting this pissed by any chance? If not I would seriously consider....
(P.S. The aforementioned C.B. Is not frozen)
dont eat them now. Aldi used to do some excellent lowish cal ones with tons of fresh veg in but typically anything I like doesnt last long
Are you posting this pissed by any chance? If not I would seriously consider....
(P.S. The aforementioned C.B. Is not frozen)
I know. Read my post. Have you been drinking?
YNWaN - Cook is a brand of frozen ready meals in case you didn't know and I identify Bigham's as 'fresh'. Does that help?:)
I see your a Waitrose shopper Justin. Whilst your in Waitrose, may I suggest the Pieminister pies ,they are excellent!
Yup they are. Sainsbury's do Bigham too.
The Bigham Steak and Ale is good you just have to buy two in one go for 50p more than two Pieministers. I have just eaten one two nights on the trot. And you get free Ramekins which are very useful for ham, egg and cheese bakes:)
hifinutt
06-07-2017, 21:21
we have a lot of ready meals and I find Sainsbury and Tesco make some lovely ready meals . as does the co-op
walpurgis
06-07-2017, 21:23
Who sells decent Scotch Eggs these days? Supermarket examples are disgusting! Rather partial to a nice one.
Who sells decent Scotch Eggs these days? Supermarket examples are disgusting! Rather partial to a nice one.
Tesco Finest Scotch eggs are quite good, they used to do a black pudding scotch egg that was bloody lovely but alas no more.
walpurgis
06-07-2017, 22:25
Tesco Finest Scotch eggs are quite good, they used to do a black pudding scotch egg that was bloody lovely but alas no more.
Tried those and the Free Range Egg deli ones. Didn't think they were wonderful, but not as awful as some. Might check out M&S and Waitrose.
There's a Deli in Clifton Bristol that does amazing ones with all sorts of ideas for flavours in the pork. Harissa is my fave. Not much use though LOL.
walpurgis
06-07-2017, 22:46
Hmm. Not sure I'll be doing a five hour round trip for a scotch egg though. :D
southall-1998
06-07-2017, 22:49
Hmm. Not sure I'll be doing a five hour round trip for a scotch egg though. :D
That's right....Look after your pennies :lol:
S.
walpurgis
06-07-2017, 22:54
That's right....Look after your pennies :lol:
S.
:ner:
I know. Read my post. Have you been drinking?
That's a fair question for anyone in this whole group!
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Yup they are. Sainsbury's do Bigham too.
The Bigham Steak and Ale is good you just have to buy two in one go for 50p more than two Pieministers. I have just eaten one two nights on the trot. And you get free Ramekins which are very useful for ham, egg and cheese bakes:)
Yes the free Ramekins are a big bonus, think you need to share your ham,egg and cheese bake recipe!:)
Tried those and the Free Range Egg deli ones. Didn't think they were wonderful, but not as awful as some. Might check out M&S and Waitrose.
The scotch eggs from Tesco are disappointing (as is much from Tesco) and I much prefer the scotch eggs sold by the Co-op.
walpurgis
09-07-2017, 22:26
Another thing that is a let down these days is Piccalilli mustard pickles. I really like a decent one, but can't find any. Haywards and Heinz are dire and supermarket own brands even worse.
Make your own, mate ;)
Ready meals? Spawn of the devil! :spew:
Marco.
Yes the free Ramekins are a big bonus, think you need to share your ham,egg and cheese bake recipe!:)
Chop up some cold ham. Cheap super thin stuff is fine for this. Put in Ramekin and crack an egg or two in there and top with your fave cheese(s).
Bake it at 200 til it is done. About 10 mins but look at it and judge.
It is really good with some grilled toms and hash browns. Be careful not to overcook it.
You could add choppped toms as a layer. Hot sauce etc - whatever you think will work.
The scotch eggs from Tesco are disappointing (as is much from Tesco) and I much prefer the scotch eggs sold by the Co-op.
easy enough to make your own. its just egg and sausagemeat coated in breadcrumbs. add your own seasoning to the meat and bake o fry
spendorman
10-07-2017, 07:12
The scotch eggs from Tesco are disappointing (as is much from Tesco) and I much prefer the scotch eggs sold by the Co-op.
I found them worse than "disappointing", same from Asda and Sainsburys, cannot really eat them, Lidl ones, a bit better, certainly cheaper too.
M&S do the best ready meals. I rarely have them, but sometimes grabbing a bag of rocket, a ready-made lasagne & some garlic bread is a cheeky way to get a nice family meal when time is tight.
Aldi do some decent ready meals. was in today and bought 2. some triple cooked chips, beer battered haddock and a haddock mornay. do some lovely sourdough pizza too. got caught at till again with ginger beer b4 10 am. such a stupid law and typical of Sturgeon
Aldi do some decent ready meals. was in today and bought 2. some triple cooked chips, beer battered haddock and a haddock mornay. do some lovely sourdough pizza too. got caught at till again with ginger beer b4 10 am. such a stupid law and typical of Sturgeon
She should never have left The Krankies.
She should never have left The Krankies.
aye... lol... went to lidl and got some.... its a stupid regulation... ie, your a wino at 9.55 and a decent shopper at 10..... madness. should just be set to 8 am or so. no problem stopping it at 10 pm or thereabouts
Arkless Electronics
10-07-2017, 13:47
She should never have left The Krankies.
Scotland is lucky to have such a superb politician as leader.
Spectral Morn
10-07-2017, 13:52
Cloughbane are nice, sold in Asda and most Spar shops/filling stations. Mix with fresh veg and bobs your uncle http://www.cloughbanefarm.com/
List of meals http://www.cloughbanefarm.com/cooked-foods/traditional-meals.html
I like to mix in mushrooms as well.
Scotland is lucky to have such a superb politician as leader.
She's all heat and no light.
She only looks good because of the dismal standard of the rest of the UK politicians.
M&S Panang curry is IMO better than sex (whatever that is) It's a shame they don't do it with rice as it is a bit big for me alone. However it's the sort of stuff I could eat until I vomited. Highly addictive because it is (again IMO) so tasty.
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/default.aspx?id=293789614
this is quite nice
Beobloke
10-07-2017, 15:22
Another thing that is a let down these days is Piccalilli mustard pickles. I really like a decent one, but can't find any. Haywards and Heinz are dire and supermarket own brands even worse.
You want Tracklements - fab stuff! http://www.tracklements.co.uk/pickles/particularly-british-piccalilli
Ready meals? Spawn of the devil! :spew:
Marco.
Couldn't agree more! The only time Mrs. B and I ever experienced ready meals was in our last house when we had no kitchen for about 6 weeks whilst an extension was built. We opted for the supposedy 'healthy' ones and, to be fair, some weren't too bad in taste terms. However, we both put on weight, my eczema got worse and our shopping was costing us around 20-30% more than usual each week! Never again.
You want Tracklements - fab stuff! http://www.tracklements.co.uk/pickles/particularly-british-piccalilli
Couldn't agree more! The only time Mrs. B and I ever experienced ready meals was in our last house when we had no kitchen for about 6 weeks whilst an extension was built. We opted for the supposedy 'healthy' ones and, to be fair, some weren't too bad in taste terms. However, we both put on weight, my eczema got worse and our shopping was costing us around 20-30% more than usual each week! Never again.
That's because ready meals are full of salt and sugar, and overall are poor in nutrition. Best avoided along with all 'fast food'.
Couldn't agree more! The only time Mrs. B and I ever experienced ready meals was in our last house when we had no kitchen for about 6 weeks whilst an extension was built. We opted for the supposedy 'healthy' ones and, to be fair, some weren't too bad in taste terms. However, we both put on weight, my eczema got worse and our shopping was costing us around 20-30% more than usual each week! Never again.
Try being without a kitchen for SIX MONTHS, currently in our case, lol! Lots of issues with it being an old house, workers letting us down, and the fact that we're having a bespoke design built from scratch...
However, we're lucky that my dad only lives 5 minutes away, so we've been using his kitchen and also going out a fair bit. But eating ready-meal shite? No! :nono:
What you describe above is symptomatic of the 'ready meal diet', which is all the more reason to make home-coked food. The problem in the UK, however, is twofold:
1) Folk don't have the time to cook because they're running around like blue-arsed flies, working round the clock, to pay a huge mortgage on their fancy big house, loans on their car, etc, (largely living beyond their means). Their work/life balance, therefore, has gone to pot! :doh:
2) Lack of (food) education and food culture in general runs deep, and is getting worse every year because of 1) above.
We need to get back to the situation of parents being brought up by their parents on simple (quality) fresh, home-cooked food, and passing the skills onto their children, and so forth, through generations (which is how I was brought up), but I simply can't see it happening; for me, it's more likely to get worse as the junk food/ready meal culture takes a greater grip with every passing day :rolleyes:
Marco.
hey, that junk is probably gonna be my dinner ;)
Infinitely Baffled
11-07-2017, 13:53
Scotland is lucky to have such a superb politician as leader.
I agree with you that she presents better than most; more focussed, more articulate and more "grown-up". Unfortunately, though, politically she is just another new wave separatist/nationalist/populist totem - see Trump, Farage, le Pen, Wilders et al. Just "Braveheart" flavour this time . Not what I think we need to see these days (or ever, frankly).
IB
hey, that junk is probably gonna be my dinner ;)
Yes, but you've got an excuse. And, you also make your own stuff sometimes (rather nice soup and bread, for instance)! :cool:
Marco.
actually mostly make my own when able. when im not i get ready meals, but try to get decent ones . im actually a very good cook, but when your just on your own and my age it is sometimes difficult to do it for one and more expensive.
Arkless Electronics
11-07-2017, 15:07
I agree with you that she presents better than most; more focussed, more articulate and more "grown-up". Unfortunately, though, politically she is just another new wave separatist/nationalist/populist totem - see Trump, Farage, le Pen, Wilders et al. Just "Braveheart" flavour this time . Not what I think we need to see these days (or ever, frankly).
IB
She's a good socialist and at the end of the day that's pretty much all that matters to me... I see her as quite the opposite to the hall of shame names you mention, all of which I despise.
RothwellAudio
11-07-2017, 15:29
She's a good socialist and at the end of the day that's pretty much all that matters to me...
She seems to me to have an almost psychotic obsession with independence for Scotland, regardless of what the Scottish people want. Seems to me she would have a referendum every six months until the Scottish people vote the way she wants them to.
Haselsh1
11-07-2017, 15:57
Sadly, I can't really share this one with you cozz even though I am from Grimsby, I hate fish. I do though adore curry type dishes so love the Sainsbury's ready meals especially the curry ones as they are really nice and thick and gloopy whereas the competition tend to be thin and watery. Could be of course that the Sainsbury ones are just more fattening and have a high oil content but after quite a few beers I couldn't bloody care less.
;)
Arkless Electronics
11-07-2017, 15:59
She seems to me to have an almost psychotic obsession with independence for Scotland, regardless of what the Scottish people want. Seems to me she would have a referendum every six months until the Scottish people vote the way she wants them to.
I would like to see Scottish independence but don't regard it as anywhere near as important as achieving a redistribution of wealth under true socialism.
Infinitely Baffled
11-07-2017, 16:03
She's a good socialist and at the end of the day that's pretty much all that matters to me... I see her as quite the opposite to the hall of shame names you mention, all of which I despise.
Noted, Jez, but as a good Socialist, you are proudly internationalist in viewpoint. Why doesn't her brand of backward-looking, nostalgia-driven, "let's curl-up with ourselves" nationalism offend you? If it were an English politician we would call them a "little Englander" (and I would agree with you). Why not "little Scotlander"?
Gary.
I do though adore curry type dishes so love the Sainsbury's ready meals especially the curry ones as they are really nice and thick and gloopy whereas the competition tend to be thin and watery.
Yes, but why not make your own curry? The (considerable) advantages are:
1) You know exactly what's gone into it.
2) Over time it's considerably cheaper than ready meals.
3) It's considerably healthier.
4) It's MASSIVELY tastier and more authentic!!!
:)
Doing otherwise is simply pure laziness and/or you're devoting too much time to other things, which ultimately matters MUCH LESS than eating well and healthily!
:exactly:
Marco.
stairpost
11-07-2017, 16:11
There's a Deli in Clifton Bristol that does amazing ones with all sorts of ideas for flavours in the pork. Harissa is my fave. Not much use though LOL.
Murray's the butcher on Gloucester road does some tasty ones too, I remember one with a hint of cider, delicious.
Well I'm having haddock mornay tonight. An Aldi one. Should be delish old chaps
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170711/e747d8b51e1e539a14b4aeee346dbc2c.jpg
with herby new potatos...yum
That was damn good.. and enough left to have again....lucky me as there is no one else here..lol
walpurgis
11-07-2017, 17:06
lucky me as there is no one else here..lol
Lucky you definitely. Wish there was nobody else here. Soon, hopefully! :)
Lucky you definitely. Wish there was nobody else here. Soon, hopefully! :)
fling them all out mate ;) a man who can cook needs no-one lol....bar a visiting au pair
walpurgis
11-07-2017, 17:24
a man who can cook needs no-one
I'm the best cook in the house :).
Hopefully the daughter and her entourage will be moving out soon. The place is not big enough for six. She should be going to Kent to look after the very elderly ma in-law.
Trouble is, I get the wife back in exchange. Not the ideal bargain! :rolleyes:
a man who can cook needs no-one lol....bar a visiting au pair...
...a functioning right wrist, and a tub of Vaseline! :D
Marco.
Murray's the butcher on Gloucester road does some tasty ones too, I remember one with a hint of cider, delicious.
When I used to live in Redland I'd walk past it and often they'd have a barbeque on street giving out their sausages as samples. Fantastic.
Yes, but why not make your own curry? The (considerable) advantages are:
1) You know exactly what's gone into it.
2) Over time it's considerably cheaper than ready meals.
3) It's considerably healthier.
4) It's MASSIVELY tastier and more authentic!!!
:)
Doing otherwise is simply pure laziness and/or you're devoting too much time to other things, which ultimately matters MUCH LESS than eating well and healthily!
:exactly:
Marco.
Doing curry really well is actually really time consuming and also quite expensive. I got into it a long time ago then gave up due to the ridiculous effort involved.
Bodge jobs are a lot easier and you can get good results by taking an easier approach. But proper curries are another matter.
try making proper potted hough lol.. takes about 10 hrs. ive been keeping up the family tradition for most of my adult life(although not for last few years) It is amazing taste and texture. Hard bloody work tho.
Arkless Electronics
11-07-2017, 18:11
Murray's the butcher on Gloucester road does some tasty ones too, I remember one with a hint of cider, delicious.
My ex used to love my pork in cider... :eyebrows:
Doing curry really well is actually really time consuming and also quite expensive. I got into it a long time ago then gave up due to the ridiculous effort involved.
Bodge jobs are a lot easier and you can get good results by taking an easier approach. But proper curries are another matter.
Sorry mate, totally disagree.
Once you've got a stock built up of all the basic herbs and spices, it's just a case of buying the fresh meat, fish and/or veg, and you're away! And as long as you buy all your ingredients in bulk from an Asian supermarket (the products from which are much better and cheaper than those from a British supermarket), it's not expensive at all.
Make the curry into batches of individual portions and pop into the freezer. Then simply defrost and heat up when you need it. Job done! :cool:
Marco.
walpurgis
11-07-2017, 18:17
My ex used to love my pork in cider... :eyebrows:
:rolleyes:
My ex used to love my pork in cider... :eyebrows:
Pork sword? :D
Marco.
Arkless Electronics
11-07-2017, 18:33
Noted, Jez, but as a good Socialist, you are proudly internationalist in viewpoint. Why doesn't her brand of backward-looking, nostalgia-driven, "let's curl-up with ourselves" nationalism offend you? If it were an English politician we would call them a "little Englander" (and I would agree with you). Why not "little Scotlander"?
Gary.
It's a good point Gary and hadn't escaped me... I guess I see Scotland as wanting to escape from the Little Englander mentality south of the border, of wanting independence from an England first Westminster, and that they realise that a truly socialist future could be much easier without being in effect a satellite state of an uber capitalist "big brother" nation which is England/UK. I'm open to argument that I'm wrong on this one, but I guess whilst I see English nationalism as inward looking, xenophobic, tinged by the rot of patriotism and with far right over tones, I see Scottish independence as, like I say, a yearning for freedom from all this.
I see English nationalists as wanting the past back... red telephone boxes, the "thwack of leather on willow on the village green"... idiotic dreamers thinking The Empire will return etc but unfortunately too many also wanting it to be ok once again to put "No blacks, no Irish , no dogs" on a B&B door. I see Scottish nationalists as wanting to forge a new future devoid of all the baggage of Empire and capitalism.. modern, Eurocentric, forward looking rather than askance at an imperialistic past which cannot return.
My ex used to love my pork in cider... :eyebrows:
During my student days I would frequently cook pork with apricots: cheap, nutricious and delicious. :)
Sorry mate, totally disagree.
Once you've got a stock built up of all the basic herbs and spices, it's just a case of buying the fresh meat, fish and/or veg, and you're away! And as long as you buy all your ingredients in bulk from an Asian supermarket (the products from which are much better and cheaper than those from a British supermarket), it's not expensive at all.
Make curry into batches of individual portions and pop into the freezer. Then simply defrost and heat up when you need it. Job done! :cool:
Marco.
Pants.
Don't like curry. Think it's the smell first taste second
walpurgis
11-07-2017, 18:54
Don't like curry. Think it's the smell first taste second
Same here.
Pants.
Pants how, daftee?
We've been doing it for years, and (once you've built up a stock of the necessary herbs and spices) can make a HUGE pot of fantastic tasting curry for about a fiver!
We buy our Basmati rice in 20kg bags from an Asian supermarket in Liverpool, along with big bags of Garam Masala, Tumeric, Cardamom seeds, Madras curry powder, fresh ginger, garlic and coriander, etc, etc, etc.
It cuts the cost of making curries significantly, which we eat at least once a week! :cool:
Marco.
Use to live opposite a cameraman who used to do James Bond movies. He took me round a James Bond set at Pinewood Studios and then out for a curry. I was 12 and he ordered me a vindaloo.
I couldn't believe it. Never tasted anything like it. Spat it out after the first bite and wouldn't touch it again. His idea of a joke I think.
M&S Steak and Ale Gastro Pub pie just voted best steak and ale pie on Channel 4's Tried and Tasted. Pukka got slated.
Use to live opposite a cameraman who used to do James Bond movies. He took me round a James Bond set at Pinewood Studios and then out for a curry. I was 12 and he ordered me a vindaloo.
I couldn't believe it. Never tasted anything like it. Spat it out after the first bite and wouldn't touch it again. His idea of a joke I think.
Lol.... That was a bit daft, but knowing me and my love of hot/spicy food (from quite a young age), I'd probably have loved it! :D
This is where we buy all our stuff for curries: https://www.mattas.co.uk/
Utterly superb place, highly recommended! :cool:
Marco.
Pants how, daftee?
We've been doing it for years, and (once you've built up a stock of the necessary herbs and spices) can make a HUGE pot of fantastic tasting curry for about a fiver!
We buy our Basmati rice in 20kg bags from an Asian supermarket in Liverpool, along with big bags of Garam Masala, Tumeric, Cardamom seeds, Madras curry powder, fresh ginger, garlic and coriander, etc, etc, etc.
It cuts the cost of making curries significantly, which we eat at least once a week! :cool:
Marco.
Will explain when I have the time.
Ok, shweety, but it won't change what I know for a fact and have been doing for over 20 years! ;)
Marco.
Enjoy the fruits of your substandard efforts for years to come then:ROFL:
Haha... I'll remind you of that when you visit and try Del's, and RAVE about it! Trust me, we both know what a good curry is, having eaten on many occasions with Indian friends, which we had up in Glasgow! ;)
Marco.
Infinitely Baffled
11-07-2017, 22:47
I see English nationalists as wanting the past back... red telephone boxes, the "thwack of leather on willow on the village green"... idiotic dreamers thinking The Empire will return etc but unfortunately too many also wanting it to be ok once again to put "No blacks, no Irish , no dogs" on a B&B door. I see Scottish nationalists as wanting to forge a new future devoid of all the baggage of Empire and capitalism.. modern, Eurocentric, forward looking rather than askance at an imperialistic past which cannot return.
Whoaa, Jez! That's heady stuff! I'd forget about electronics if I were you - I think a great future as a political speech-writer beckons.
If I'm being honest, I do get the point you are making. It would be dishonest of me to pretend that the SNP's secessionist stance is as cretinously neanderthal as UKIP's. I can see that they are different things. But I'm so cross with all these people who want to dismantle modern, idealistic (if flawed) political units, and replace them with little tribes, that I can't help feeling sour towards Ms Sturgeon. The future should be big and outward looking, not tiny and self-absorbed.
Gary.
Inclined to agree. Although if the controllers of the modern big units are ignoring your rights......
Haha... I'll remind you of that when you visit and try Del's, and RAVE about it! Trust me, we both know what a good curry is, having eaten on many occasions with Indian friends, which we had up in Glasgow! ;)
Marco.
I'm sure her curries are great Marco.
All I am saying is that producing truly outstanding curries can be a lot of hard work.
stairpost
12-07-2017, 08:26
When I used to live in Redland I'd walk past it and often they'd have a barbeque on street giving out their sausages as samples. Fantastic.
Yep, they'd have the whole pavement blocked by Saturday shoppers waiting for a proper butcher's beef burger.
I spent 20 years living in St Andrews, most of it spent working in shops on Gloucester road and I have to say I do miss the place.
I'm sure her curries are great Marco.
All I am saying is that producing truly outstanding curries can be a lot of hard work.
Lol.... Well, not if you're well prepared and have most of the ingredients at home already :)
Besides, the point is making the effort to eat proper home-cooked food (of any description) is always worth it, and more people should take the time to do it, rather than buying processed ready-meals :cool:
Prioritise QUALITY over convenience :thumbsup:
Marco.
That said, when you can't be arsed, eat decent ready meals if possible.
Indeed... Read the back and see what's in it first, before buying it :)
The best ready meals, in that respect, are often those produced locally (in the area you live) by small companies, and these are essentially 'home-made' items with minimal packaging and a short shelf-life, simply because they haven't been pumped full of chemicals and preservatives.
Marco.
Much better to make your own 'ready meals'. Simply make double the amount and freeze the other half. I do this with curry, chilli etc and quite often they taste even better the next time you eat them and have none of the nasty crap manufactures use and you get to choose the quality of ingredients you use!
walpurgis
12-07-2017, 10:20
A tip to anybody freezing food. Don't use disposable aluminium foil containers. Acids and alkalis in food dissolve aluminium and you end up ingesting it. Aluminium is toxic.
Much better to make your own 'ready meals'. Simply make double the amount and freeze the other half. I do this with curry, chilli etc and quite often they taste even better the next time you eat them and have none of the nasty crap manufactures use and you get to choose the quality of ingredients you use!
Precisely, Jim (on all counts). That's the point [the bit in bold] I was making earlier to Justin.
Marco.
jollyfix
12-07-2017, 11:09
Much better to make your own 'ready meals'. Simply make double the amount and freeze the other half. I do this with curry, chilli etc and quite often they taste even better the next time you eat them and have none of the nasty crap manufactures use and you get to choose the quality of ingredients you use!
Same here, but tend to cook more than double... Most ready meals as far as i know take around 25- 30mins to heat ( normal oven). I can cook a fresh meal in the same time, or quicker.
The other thing, in terms of the argument about it being a 'ball ache' to make a good curry, well that may be valid in terms of trying to compete with good restaurants and takeaways, but it sure as hell doesn't take much effort to better a ready meal curry from a supermarket!!
:exactly:
Marco.
jollyfix
12-07-2017, 14:46
A good curry is simple and quick. Well as long as the base gravy is made, and you have the right ingredients ,and pan etc. When i make my gravy, there is enough for around 15 meals. Just freeze. Making a restaurant / take away curry much quicker than a ready meal tasteless curry. Something like a Raan, takes ages due do the marinade etc, but thats not a curry, and more Indian home cooking ,which is totally different from take away curry.
You can not make a restaurant/ take away curry by using super market curry paste in a jar or similar. The ready made cooking sauces not that good, but there are a few ( buy from Indian shops) which are ok, but again not take away curry.
having sweet n sour chicken and rice made by Laila's Lancashire.a family affair apparently.. daughter Natasha Beaver (stop sniggering at the back);)is purchasing director... lets hope its not her beaver range im eating:eyebrows: Got it in Lidl..quite nice actually..
hope her hubby's name wasnt Harry:lol:
walpurgis
12-07-2017, 16:46
Having a large baked spud tonight. Half done in microwave, then filled with halved baby plum tomatoes, loads of butter and cheese and browned and finished in the oven and served with fried baby chestnut mushrooms and mixed beans in tomato sauce. All nice and simple.
Same here, but tend to cook more than double... Most ready meals as far as i know take around 25- 30mins to heat ( normal oven). I can cook a fresh meal in the same time, or quicker.
You can but you probably have washing up and you have to do things typically fairly intensely for those 30 odd minutes. Not good when you are knackered after work.
I'm not really defending ready meals, just being real about it.
I just did a fine mushroom parpadelle. Some leftovers for work tomoz. Nicer by a margin than an M&S ready meal of the same type/name. But that is 3 minutes in the microwave and zero hassle really.
Defrosting stuff is always a fag if you don't preplan.
Marco - my reference book on curry making has apparently been discarded. I was going to photo a recipe or two just to show you what can be involved. It is extreme in some cases.
walpurgis
12-07-2017, 19:14
Curry is for other people. I won't touch the stinky stuff. It looks like dog vomit! :)
jollyfix
12-07-2017, 19:19
You can but you probably have washing up and you have to do things typically fairly intensely for those 30 odd minutes. Not good when you are knackered after work.
I'm not really defending ready meals, just being real about it.
I just did a fine mushroom parpadelle. Some leftovers for work tomoz. Nicer by a margin than an M&S ready meal of the same type/name. But that is 3 minutes in the microwave and zero hassle really.
Defrosting stuff is always a fag if you don't preplan.
Marco - my reference book on curry making has apparently been discarded. I was going to photo a recipe or two just to show you what can be involved. It is extreme in some cases.
I get where you are coming from Justin, but for me even knackered i would rather cook fresh. I find for me its a good way to wind down after a full on day. Those 30mins are not as intense as you think, but depends of whats being cooked. After a 16hr hard day, i won't be cooking the same meal as a normal 8hr day, thats for sure.. Washing up, well not that bad if cooking a one pan meal.
Curry is for other people. I won't touch the stinky stuff. It looks like dog vomit! :)
You remind me of my Uncle Frank who spent 40 years working nights. Took his first foreign holiday (to France) in about 1983 with a suitcase full of pies and bacon.
walpurgis
12-07-2017, 19:29
You remind me of my Uncle Frank who spent 40 years working nights. Took his first foreign holiday (to France) in about 1983 with a suitcase full of pies and bacon.
Impossible. I don't eat pies or bacon! :D
Are you a meat and two veg man Geoff?
walpurgis
12-07-2017, 20:31
Are you a meat and two veg man Geoff?
No.
Not exactly vegetarian, but not keen on red meat, apart from bangers and corned beef occasionally. Fish & poultry are OK though.
No.
Not exactly vegetarian, but not keen on red meat, apart from bangers and corned beef occasionally. Fish & poultry are OK though.
That sounds like my nearly vegetarian girlfriend who also eats chicken and fish but no red meat!:lol:
Marco - my reference book on curry making has apparently been discarded. I was going to photo a recipe or two just to show you what can be involved. It is extreme in some cases.
Would be interesting to see if you can find it :)
Marco.
But red meat is the best of all the meats. Especially char-grilled.
Haselsh1
12-07-2017, 20:52
Yes, but why not make your own curry? The (considerable) advantages are:
1) You know exactly what's gone into it.
2) Over time it's considerably cheaper than ready meals.
3) It's considerably healthier.
4) It's MASSIVELY tastier and more authentic!!!
:)
Doing otherwise is simply pure laziness and/or you're devoting too much time to other things, which ultimately matters MUCH LESS than eating well and healthily!
:exactly:
Marco.
Totally agree Marco. Did a curry course many years ago and love making from scratch but if Sue is away on a course or whatever then it is a lazy sod of a night in. Once in a while I love it.
Haselsh1
12-07-2017, 20:54
Curry is for other people. I won't touch the stinky stuff. It looks like dog vomit! :)
Sorry but I don't understand how tomatoes and onion with a few spices can be any such thing.
Totally agree Marco. Did a curry course many years ago and love making from scratch but if Sue is away on a course or whatever then it is a lazy sod of a night in. Once in a while I love it.
No worries, mate, totally understand. However, in that situation I'd personally opt for a takeaway curry from a good Indian restaurant, instead of a supermarket ready meal. It'd be far better quality and you'd also get much more food for your money :)
In terms of those who hate curry, I think some of it is a generational thing, as most older folks I know can't stand the stuff, my dad included, and he loves all sorts of food, but mainly British and Mediterranean-style dishes.
Personally, I love hot, spicy food, but most importantly variation in my diet.
Therefore, if I have a curry one day, then the next day it'll be something totally different, such as pasta, and then once I've had pasta, the next day I might have something like roast chicken or lamb chops, then the next day a Chinese, etc - but it's always got to be something TASTY and worthwhile eating, which I'll look forward to having.
I simply don't do boring, bland food, bulked out just to act as sustenance! :nono:
Italians LIVE to eat, not EAT to live....
Marco.
Sorry but I don't understand how tomatoes and onion with a few spices can be any such thing.
One man's Vindaloo...
Aldi beer battered fish and triple cooked chips tonight.. bloody lovely. and same again for tomorrow
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No worries, mate, totally understand. However, in that situation I'd personally opt for a takeaway curry from a good Indian restaurant, instead of a supermarket ready meal. It'd be far better quality and you'd also get much more food for your money :)
In terms of those who hate curry, I think some of it is a generational thing, as most older folks I know can't stand the stuff, my dad included, and he loves all sorts of food, but mainly British and Mediterranean-style dishes.
Personally, I love hot, spicy food, but most importantly variation in my diet.
Therefore, if I have a curry one day, then the next day it'll be something totally different, such as pasta, and then once I've had pasta, the next day I might have something like roast chicken or lamb chops, then the next day a Chinese, etc - but it's always got to be something TASTY and worthwhile eating, which I'll look forward to having.
I simply don't do boring, bland food, bulked out just to act as sustenance! :nono:
Italians LIVE to eat, not EAT to live....
Marco.
That book is gone but it was an amazing example of the amount of pre-prep required before making fab curries. I'm sure I can find something equivalent online gimme this weekend.
Anyway, u is talkin' the talk but is u walkin' the walk? Post some pictures of these wonderments that look likely to be real genuine chez Marco.. Grant and I do.
A picture speaks a thousand words sometimes.
No worries. Will do, next time Del makes a curry. She's the chef de cuisine, not me :)
Marco.
P.S Cardinal sin, Granty: ketchup on fish! :spew:
It's either nowt, save some salt & vinegar, or tartare sauce.
walpurgis
14-07-2017, 19:27
P.S Cardinal sin, Granty: ketchup on fish! :spew:
I absolutely agree. It should have been brown sauce! :D
Haha - you can tell you daftees have no class! :ner:
Marco.
spendorman
14-07-2017, 19:34
No, no no! a wally and a pickled onion with fish and chips!
No worries. Will do, next time Del makes a curry. She's the chef de cuisine, not me :)
Marco.
P.S Cardinal sin, Granty: ketchup on fish! :spew:
It's either nowt, save some salt & vinegar, or tartare sauce.
You put what you want on yir fish...I fancied tomato sauce tonight. :ner: tomorrow I will go with Geoff and have brown
PS it had vinegar, pink salt and lemon juice on too
walpurgis
14-07-2017, 19:38
Actually, with fried or baked fish, like yourself Marco, I do like salt & vinegar or (proper) tartare sauce. Although Waitrose sell a lemon mayonaise that goes very nicely with fish.
But I dislike tartare sauce where the capers have not been chopped fine. That's just not right!
OK so here's just the second link I found doing a Google. Beef Rendang.
There's much worse than this, but even the author is complaining about the amount of time it takes.
http://rasamalaysia.com/beef-rendang-recipe-rendang-daging/
You have to find shortcuts which always compromise on quality to make curry making practical. It's finding that balance between shortcut and quality that counts.
Unless you really can be arsed. It which case expect amazingness.
sounds quite nice.. i dont have most of those ingredients alas so it would be costly obtaining them
That's the other problem. It does cost a lot.
OK so here's just the second link I found doing a Google. Beef Rendang.
There's much worse than this, but even the author is complaining about the amount of time it takes.
http://rasamalaysia.com/beef-rendang-recipe-rendang-daging/
You have to find shortcuts which always compromise on quality to make curry making practical. It's finding that balance between shortcut and quality that counts.
Unless you really can be arsed. It which case expect amazingness.
Yes, but first of all, not all curries are as time-consuming to make as Beef Rendang. Many are much more simple, and arguably just as tasty!
Secondly, as I've said before, if you keep a stock of various asian herbs and spices in the kitchen (as we do), then you don't have to buy them all at once to make one curry, which can make it seem expensive.
Thirdly, it's always worth being "arsed" taking the time to cook properly. Typically, we spend two hours a day making the meals we eat from scratch, and on a Sunday, when we're doing something special, more like 4 hours - and that's just for lunch! ;)
I only put into my mouth food that I consider worthy of eating (which is healthy, TASTY, and exciting), not just any old muck to fill me up!!
Marco.
At college I lived with foreign students who started cooking their evening meal at 8am. 12 hours of cooking. Always cooked for myself as a student or when out of work but can rarely be bothered to when I'm out from 0800 to 1800 five days a week. Plenty of places nearby me to get food. Chinese, Japanese, Caribbean, Bengali, Punjabi, Kashmiri, Thai, pizza, chippy... You can have a different country every night.
At college I lived with foreign students who started cooking their evening meal at 8am. 12 hours of cooking.
I'm not surprised. It's because for 'us foreigners', food is such a major part of our lives, the planning of and eating of such consumes much of our time.
You've eaten one of Del's curries, which I seem to remember you liked! ;)
Marco.
I recall it well - It was very good.
Obviously it is a cultural thing that isn't unknown but is not common amongst the British. We work the longest hours in Europe here too, so that doesn't help. By the time I've got back from work and chilled out a bit it can be nine o'clock. Bit late to start a couple of hours worth of food prep.
Yup, and the working the longest hours thing is a major problem, in terms of stress, and its severely adverse effect on your heath.
Folks in the UK need to take a step back, appreciate what's MOST important in life [i.e. spending time with your friends and family] and sort out their work/life balance, before it's too late!
:exactly:
Marco.
You can't do it forever but you've got to make hay while the sun shines. Plus not having a job and not having any money can be more stressful than doing a 50 hour week but not having to worry about money because of it.
You can't do it forever but you've got to make hay while the sun shines.
Absolutely, and I've been there, as you know. The situation I'm in and enjoying now didn't just fall into my lap...
However, if folk were happier with simpler lives and less material possessions, the necessity to work to pay for it would subsequently reduce, and with it the associated stress. It's a simple equation :)
I was utterly astounded when I read recently that 'your friend and mine, over the road', at the age of 70 is paying a mortgage of £1600 a month!!! That's utter MADNESS :mental: :mental:
At that age, if you've been at all lucky and/or successful in life, you should be mortgage and debt free, living a stress-free existence of sun and Sangria!
:exactly:
Marco.
Depends on your outlook I suppose. I'm happy with a fairly modest life and no debts that's why I've never moved up to a better house. Didn't want to add to the mortgage when it is almost paid off. I don't mind working, it gets me out the house, but with a big mortgage you have no choice about it. Nothing worse than having no choice.
Nothing worse than having no choice.
Exactly! What price FREEDOM, and having TIME to do what YOU want, when YOU want?
I'd rather live in a flat in Stoke, which is fully paid for, earning £25k a year, working from home, than a big house in London, earning £100k a year, working all the hours under the sun to pay for it, whilst having no time to enjoy myself!
Ultimately, TIME (to do what you want, when you want) is more important than money....
I blame some of the women that folk marry, who 'demand' having a certain type of lifestyle, and expect you to fund it..... A £1600 per month mortgage, at the age of 70 (and with poor health) is just lunacy, IMO, and seriously smacks of a gold-digging female being behind it.
Marco.
dunno, a lot of men are vain too, and are desparate to impress with all the trappings of a successul life. If you get 2 together then watch out :eek:
Indeed, and I just don't understand that mentality. It smacks of deep insecurity!
Marco.
You can't do it forever but you've got to make hay while the sun shines. Plus not having a job and not having any money can be more stressful than doing a 50 hour week but not having to worry about money because of it.
It depends. really. When I was last unemployed, for about 6 months in my early 20s, I was happy as Larry. No money, but also no responsibilities, apart from rolling up at the dole office every other week to sign a form. My outgoings were almost nil; I spent very little on food, and back then the idea of forking out a couple of quid for a coffee would have seemed laughable.
I'm not in the slightest bit 'driven', and it was only the acquisition of responsibilities (mortgage, wife and two children) that got me out of bed in the morning. Other people can't abide being idle, and will work until they (literally in some cases) drop.
It's not a case of being idle though, Joe. It's a case of having other interests/hobbies in your life other than work, so that when you retire, you've got other things to do, which fills that void.
And therein lies the problem... If your life revolves around work (often without you realising it), then once the work stops, you don't know what to do with yourself! :doh:
You should really try and get yourself into a position, where you work as hard as is necessary (that's also the time to work stupidly long hours), early in life, so that you can retire at a reasonable age (no older than 65), thus allowing you to sit back and ENJOY the fruits of your labours, and most importantly, spend time with your loved ones.
This 'working 'till you drop' nonsense really needs to be sorted out, but the problem is the whole system/structure now is geared towards folk working longer than ever, and then being strangled in a mountain of debt until they die! :rolleyes:
Marco.
walpurgis
17-07-2017, 09:02
It's not a case of being idle though, Joe. It's a case of having other interests/hobbies in your life other than work, so that when you retire, you've got other things to do which fills that void.
Marco.
Damn right Marco. Dunno how I ever found the time for a job. Being retired is a full time occupation.
It's not a case of being idle though, Joe. It's a case of having other interests/hobbies in your life other than work, so that when you retire, you've got other things to do which fills that void.
And therein lies the problem... If your life revolves around work (often without you realising it), then once the work stops, you don't know what to do with yourself! :doh:
You should really try and get yourself into a position, where you work as hard as is necessary (that's also the time to work stupidly long hours), early in life, so that you can retire at a reasonable age (no older than 65), thus allowing you to sit back and ENJOY the fruits of your labours, and most importantly, spend time with your loved ones.
This 'working 'till you drop' nonsense really needs to be sorted out.
Marco.
Personally, I retired four years ago and paid off the mortgage at the same time. I'm also quite happy being idle. 'Dolce far niente', as some folks say.
Lol... Well, that's cool. However, the problem is work is such an integral part of some people's lives that they simply don't *know* anything else, including how to enjoy themselves!
In essence, they've completely lost focus on what life should be all about.
Marco.
It depends. really. When I was last unemployed, for about 6 months in my early 20s, I was happy as Larry. No money, but also no responsibilities, apart from rolling up at the dole office every other week to sign a form. My outgoings were almost nil; I spent very little on food, and back then the idea of forking out a couple of quid for a coffee would have seemed laughable.
I'm not in the slightest bit 'driven', and it was only the acquisition of responsibilities (mortgage, wife and two children) that got me out of bed in the morning. Other people can't abide being idle, and will work until they (literally in some cases) drop.
I was also unemployed in my early twenties and it was a great time in my life. There was literally no work, not even manual labouring so no need to feel guilty about 'dossing'. Nothing to lose, nothing I had to do except sign on once a fortnight. Got used to having no money, discovered ways to work around it. On the minus side I did sometimes worry about the future; you can't go on like that forever. Once I had a mortgage that was it, I had to stay in work. Fortunately by then there was work, I was always able to get something and keep paying it despite being made redundant twice. If I'd been stuck on the dole then I would have lost the house, that would all have been a bit grim.
some folk need to work. its their reason to be and cant survive without it.
I have a couple of friends who have interesting, high powered jobs and enjoy them and regard them as a hobby. MY father was the same. I've only had one job like that and it only lasted two years. Now I'm happy as long as I don't hate my work, and if I start hating it I can quit without worrying about losing the house.
some folk need to work. its their reason to be and cant survive without it.
Yes, and that mentality, when taken to extremes, is part of the problem. What you do (or should do), once you've reached retiring age, is replace work with a hobby you love, and then 'throw yourself into' that, like you did with your job.
That way you won't 'miss' working, thus can survive without it. It also helps if you're married or have a partner and/or kids, which helps you focus on other things than just work, such as enjoying their company and seeing a bit of the world outside of your own back door.
Quite simply, in everyone's life, there should be a predetermined (pleasurable) 'end goal', so when you're young, you work towards achieving that goal - and once done, you simply sit back and enjoy it!
Marco.
Quite simply, in everyone's life, there should be a predetermined (pleasurable) 'end goal', so when you're young, you work towards achieving that goal - and once done, you simply enjoy it!
Marco.
Plenty of people enjoy their work so it isn't really 'work' to them. What you are saying makes sense if you hate every minute of it but how many people does that apply to? Plus the irony is that if you have a high paid job the odds are that you do enjoy it. If you have a low paid job not only will you likely not enjoy doing it but you will be poor when you retire, you won't be living it up or jetting around the world on holiday.
I don't usually work more than 9-10 months in a year on average these days. But that's my choice in not just picking up any contract under the sun.
I'm a fussy freelancer these days. But not working for a bit really helps you chill and in my case do a lot more swimming etc etc.
Audio Al
17-07-2017, 12:22
Ready meal ? = mass produced muck :spew:
Make your own meals from fresh produce = :)
Plenty of people enjoy their work so it isn't really 'work' to them. What you are saying makes sense if you hate every minute of it but how many people does that apply to?
That's not what I mean. You have to see work, whether you love your job or not, simply as the facilitator that (eventually) enables you to do what you really want to do, such as enjoying time with your loved ones, free from any stress or worry about bills, as you've effectively 'prepaid' for the likely remainder of your existence.
Work, for any successful person with a healthy outlook on life, should *never* be the be-all-and-end-all, or your very reason for living. If it is, then I'm sorry, that's not a healthy place to be. And I can almost guarantee you that most in that unfortunate position aren't genuinely happy, whether they care to admit it or not.
Life is ALL about feeling happy and fulfilled as a person. Ultimately, nothing else matters, and if that's not the case, you simply won't genuinely be happy.
Plus the irony is that if you have a high paid job the odds are that you do enjoy it. If you have a low paid job not only will you likely not enjoy doing it but you will be poor when you retire, you won't be living it up or jetting around the world on holiday.
Yes, you may well enjoy your highly paid job, if you're in it for the RIGHT reasons and are genuinely happy.
However, many people I know with highly paid jobs simply have them to fund a certain lifestyle, which they feel that they should have, in order to fit in with others or consider themselves a 'success', and although they may *seem* happy on the outside, underneath it's all a pretence, often including the lifestyle that they have to work almost round the clock to afford.
That's not a life; it's merely an existence. I'd absolutely hate that, and it's what drives many people to heart attacks (or strokes) with the stress of it all.
If you're in a low-paid job, things may well be shit, for different reasons, BUT if you're happy with a simple life and few material possessions, thus have little debt and live within your means, overall feel happy and fulfilled as a person, have all the time you need to be with your loved ones and are 100% in control of your life, then that can be the greatest feeling in the world - and often one many millionaires never get to experience.
Marco.
my old mate loved working and especially the job he had most of his life. didnt want to retire but was forced to. became depressed not working and tried other jobs but hankered for his old one, then his brain went; stroke or something like that. then had a growth appear and soon never knew anyone. died a few months later. all very upsetting. we all felt if he had stayed in his job he would have lived longer. some folk dont like having a lot of spare time you see. I can understand it, as I dont like too much myself. But he was different and actually lived for his job. A lot of old folk did. he never smiled after he retired
my old mate loved working and especially the job he had most of his life. didnt want to retire but was forced to. became depressed not working and tried other jobs but hankered for his old one, then his brain went; stroke or something like that. then had a growth appear and soon never knew anyone. died a few months later. all very upsetting. we all felt if he had stayed in his job he would have lived longer. some folk dont like having a lot of spare time you see. I can understand it, as I dont like too much myself. But he was different and actually lived for his job. A lot of old folk did. he never smiled after he retired
Fair enough, mate. That's a valid instance of someone who was *genuinely* happy with his 'lot' in life, which revolved around his job. It's often not like that, though.
My dad gave up running his fish & chip business as soon as he'd amassed enough cash to see him (and my mum) out of this world, which was when he was just over 60, and didn't regret it one iota, because then they could enjoy life together, going out for lunch most days, long walks in the country, holidays abroad and spending time in their garden.
The very LAST thing in his mind was standing behind a counter serving the general public, from 4pm to midnight, six days a week [much as he 'enjoyed' it when he had to]! ;)
I managed to 'retire' much earlier, largely through some clever investments, and I've never been happier, getting up in the morning and only doing what *I* feel like doing, not what someone else forces me to. Fortunately though, I've got umpteen different interests to keep me occupied, so I almost never get bored :cool:
Marco.
Yup each to their own i guess...id rather have your life than his, and in reality im probably in between. I enjoyed my job and didnt like having to stop, but i found there was more to life, for me than working.
He didnt tho
The other thing is, if they're married or have a partner, how do all these folk who love working 24/7 have time to enjoy their relationship? :scratch:
I love spending time with Del, and miss her even when she's gone to lunch for a few hours with some friends, never mind anything else! My mum and dad were the same: very close.
Marco.
So these folk who love working all the time must be:
a) single.
b) not very close to their partners.
c) in an unhappy marriage/relationship, seeking some form of escape.
If none of the above apply to someone you know who's obsessed with work, then perhaps you could explain to me how they can hold down a meaningful relationship? :hmm:
Marco.
dont think they all work 7 days a week.lol most probably did a 5 day week and a saturday morning.(some switching wed for sat) that was the usual hrs for many. sat pm in pub, sun morn in church and pm in garden
walpurgis
17-07-2017, 17:47
I've known a few career obsessed 'high fliers', women as well as men, who have similar minded partners, each working maybe up to twelve hours a day. Any children have a carer for the day and the couples see each other for perhaps an hour or two daily apart from time in bed. Not a lifestyle I'd opt for, no matter how rewarding financially.
Known a few that just wanted to be away from wife
Absence makes the heart grow fonder.
rmcin626
17-07-2017, 19:17
Interestingly I am looking to retire in the very near future, working for 40 years is enough. My job is ok and reasonably well paid but I am not enjoying the changes that are happening around me. I think I have enough interests to keep me busy.
Absence makes the heart grow fonder.
Absinthe makes the tart grow fonder, as Ernest Dowson put it.
dont think they all work 7 days a week.lol most probably did a 5 day week and a saturday morning.(some switching wed for sat) that was the usual hrs for many. sat pm in pub, sun morn in church and pm in garden
Sounds heavenly, lol... So when did such couples get time to go out for a meal together, or enjoy each other's company in some other way, outside of the same four walls? 5-day week, plus a Saturday morning, then 'he' goes to the pub Sat night, presumably alone to meet 'the lads?
Then Sunday morning it's church time, and "PM in the garden" I presume involves just him, or is 'she' joining him? Then it's Monday again and back to square one....
If that was the extent of my 'life', I'd already have had my head inside a gas oven.....! ;)
Marco.
I've known a few career obsessed 'high fliers', women as well as men, who have similar minded partners, each working maybe up to twelve hours a day. Any children have a carer for the day and the couples see each other for perhaps an hour or two daily apart from time in bed. Not a lifestyle I'd opt for, no matter how rewarding financially.
Me neither, and of course each to his or her own, but in terms of the bit in bold, spare a thought for the kids, who'll grow up not knowing you [adopting the personality of the carer/nanny in the process], as well as most likely resenting you because you weren't there for them when they needed you most! :doh:
How NOT to be a parent.
Marco.
Me neither, and of course each to his or her own, but in terms of the bit in bold, spare a thought for the kids, who'll grow up not knowing you [adopting the personality of the carer/nanny in the process], as well as most likely resenting you because you weren't there for them when they needed you most! :doh:
How NOT to be a parent.
Marco.
Doesn't tally with my own experience, knowing children who grew up with nannies. It isn't how much time you spend with your children it is the quality of time that counts. If your children see you infrequently and each time you see them you're a bastard to them then yes, that is going to cause them problems. Otherwise they are far more likely to idolise you than if they see you all the time. Obviously there is a balance in the middle somewhere. You don't want them becoming emotionally needy. That seems to be the trend these days and it is very disturbing.
My sister works hard, and is out of the country quite a bit on business trips. She's the managing director of a retail store all of you will have heard of. Without exception.
She's a millionaire many times over.
She's pretty normal, really. She's just my sis. No apparent abnormalities, seems really quite happy and is a very nice person.
How the f does she manage it? Beats me:)
Doesn't tally with my own experience, knowing children who grew up with nannies. It isn't how much time you spend with your children it is the quality of time that counts. If your children see you infrequently and each time you see them you're a bastard to them then yes, that is going to cause them problems. Otherwise they are far more likely to idolise you than if they see you all the time.
I know where you're coming from, and appreciate that may be the case for some, but in my experience (with folk I know like that) it's been the opposite.
They're usually too wrapped up in their careers to give proper love and attention to their children, often trying to substitute that with expensive gifts, thinking that as long as the kid is palmed off with the latest 'must have' toy, they'll be happy, when all the kid really wants is some proper affection.
In my experience too, you don't usually grow up to be a warm, caring human being unless you've been brought up in loving and close family environment. There's almost always an emotional price to pay for any kid who's been neglected (or not as well looked after as it should have been), and I'm not talking about pampering.
YMMV.
Marco.
walpurgis
17-07-2017, 21:12
If your children see you infrequently and each time you see them you're a bastard to them then yes, that is going to cause them problems.
That is true!
Sounds heavenly, lol... So when did such couples get time to go out for a meal together, or enjoy each other's company in some other way, outside of the same four walls? 5-day week, plus a Saturday morning, then 'he' goes to the pub Sat night, presumably alone to meet 'the lads?
Then Sunday morning it's church time, and "PM in the garden" I presume involves just him, or is 'she' joining him? Then it's Monday again and back to square one....
If that was the extent of my 'life', I'd already have had my head inside a gas oven.....! ;)
Marco.
That was the British way. Rarely did they have time or money for dining out. They weren't overly touchy feely either. Up til end of second war that was just way it was. For older couples who had been adult in war it pretty much stayed that way. Different cultures do things differently
Fair enough. Just glad that my parents weren't like that, and I grew up in a very different environment :)
In terms of the money thing though, there was obviously enough for him to go to the pub and drink there all night on Saturday! ;)
Marco.
lol, not all night.. a couple of hrs was more normal for decent folk. Wife would be making tea and doing her high dusting :ner:
...then a bit of 'how's yer father' for pudding? It's amazing where you can drip some hot custard! :D
Marco.
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