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Bigman80
06-07-2017, 16:54
Hi all,

I attempted to make a video of the Alphason and Toshy combo today with decent sound quality. I Connected a phono jack to phono jack cable from the Headphone socket on the Creek headphone amp to the mic input on the camera, a Nikon DSLR 5300. The image was HD as one would expect but the sound is so bad its criminal. Its really hissing badly.

Anyone got any ideas other than editing the sound separately which is nothing but aggro.

Roy S
06-07-2017, 17:29
There was this thread

http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?47081-Member-s-System-Video-Thread-Please-Post-A-Video-Of-Yours!-)

Arkless Electronics
06-07-2017, 17:38
It must be me... maybe... but I don't even want to see photos never mind a video! It strikes me as being as sensible and relevant as recording the sound of an art gallery! carry on....

walpurgis
06-07-2017, 17:46
It must be me... maybe... but I don't even want to see photos never mind a video! It strikes me as being as sensible and relevant as recording the sound of an art gallery! carry on....

:lolsign:

Macca
06-07-2017, 17:54
I also don't see the point of it, I mean I'm going to listen to it through the speakers on a Lenovo laptop. They're surprisingly good in the same way as Farm Foods sausage rolls are surprisingly good - in that they are not as totally rank as you thought they might be, but are still totally rank.

How about doing a commentary instead, talk about the kit? I always watch those videos that start with a commentary and a walk around all the kit up until the point where they put music on and then I switch it off.

Bigman80
06-07-2017, 18:00
Well, he point wouldnt be to demonstrate the sound! lol

I like to see a video of something i am interested in purchasing and also as its a slightly unusual combo there is no Info available about how one could fit an Alphason/Linn to an SME arm board. I thought the project had been quite interesting and the results were worth sharing. And whats wrong with showing it in its full glory with a record playing!

Bigman80
06-07-2017, 18:01
SO, does anyone have a better way to record audio through a DSLR?

walpurgis
06-07-2017, 18:07
http://www.desktop-documentaries.com/dslr-audio.html

struth
06-07-2017, 18:08
You would need an XLR Box mate. DSLR mini jack has AGC which causes major problems. an xlr box will fix that by overriding it

Macca
06-07-2017, 18:10
seems to me yyou need to adjust levels at one end or the other. A mic feed isn't the same level as a line level from an amp - I guess. Can you reduce the sensitivity of the mic input? Or control the level of the output from the amp?

Bigman80
06-07-2017, 18:11
Top man, thanks Grant

struth
06-07-2017, 18:11
something like this http://www.rcblogic.co.uk/p-3295-beachtek-dxa-slr-pure-passive-xlr-adapter.aspx?st=33&source=paidclick&gclid=Cj0KCQjwv_fKBRCGARIsAL6R6egLNa2GIZejXZ4ccBky x0zAf_84znc6zKhUEVSrvtAzG1VdbDozn6waAruAEALw_wcB

Bigman80
06-07-2017, 18:12
seems to me yyou need to adjust levels at one end or the other. A mic feed isn't the same level as a line level from an amp - I guess. Can you reduce the sensitivity of the mic input? Or control the level of the output from the amp?

I dont have that many options, Macca. I'll get the manual out and have a look through.

User211
06-07-2017, 18:47
I also don't see the point of it, I mean I'm going to listen to it through the speakers on a Lenovo laptop. They're surprisingly good in the same way as Farm Foods sausage rolls are surprisingly good - in that they are not as totally rank as you thought they might be, but are still totally rank.

How about doing a commentary instead, talk about the kit? I always watch those videos that start with a commentary and a walk around all the kit up until the point where they put music on and then I switch it off.
Hm even if the audio doesn't interest you a video provides views of kit at all sorts of angles when shot well with that sort of intention.

But then again listening on a laptop is pretty shite unless you are connected to something decent.

Judging the SQ from videos is really dodgy and I have shot enough show videos to know that great sounding systems can sound good or bad when shot via video even with a relatively decent mic.

The Mibo videos I shot gave a sense of vibe from the place no one could have ever received in any other way.

struth
06-07-2017, 18:51
iphone isnt bad audio wise. a caera is usually better picture wise but slightly worse audiowise. guess you could use a separate to record audio and blend with a program should be easy enough. Those xlr's are what any pros use with a dlsr as it works out a lot cheaper than a top notch video camera

Bigman80
06-07-2017, 18:54
I might try recording it on the Laptop and seeing how it sounds. I agree that the sound can provide an insight but it wont ever be precise.

YNWaN
06-07-2017, 19:03
I did a short vid ages ago of my TT, I just used my iPhone and whilst the sound was nothing special it was reasonably ok, certainly no SN issues.

YNWaN
06-07-2017, 19:06
I also don't see the point of it, I mean I'm going to listen to it through the speakers on a Lenovo laptop. They're surprisingly good in the same way as Farm Foods sausage rolls are surprisingly good - in that they are not as totally rank as you thought they might be, but are still totally rank.

How about doing a commentary instead, talk about the kit? I always watch those videos that start with a commentary and a walk around all the kit up until the point where they put music on and then I switch it off.

You fool ... Marco tells me a 'skilled listener' can discern the essence no matter how opaque the medium .....

hifinutt
06-07-2017, 21:19
I would love to make a video of my kit and speakers , especially when I manage to get them sounding brilliant , which is great to share with others . one day I will . I see all these you tube vids and rather enjoy them

Bigman80
06-07-2017, 21:55
I would love to make a video of my kit and speakers , especially when I manage to get them sounding brilliant , which is great to share with others . one day I will . I see all these you tube vids and rather enjoy them
YES!! I'm not alone lol.

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Barry
06-07-2017, 22:27
It must be me... maybe... but I don't even want to see photos never mind a video! It strikes me as being as sensible and relevant as recording the sound of an art gallery! carry on....

So what about your 'avatar'?

walpurgis
06-07-2017, 22:33
So what about your 'avatar'?

Touche' :D

Bigman80
06-07-2017, 22:35
So what about your 'avatar'?
Lmfao. Classic.

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alphaGT
07-07-2017, 03:36
Personally, I do live recording of my band. I have an app on my notebook called Reason, but there are dozens of different brands. And I have a nice Presonus audio to computer interface. I can record up to 8 channels at once. But if I were trying to make a sound track for my stereo video, I'd take two tracks and use two identical studio mic's, nicely placed on either side of the room. While recording the stereo in action, I would use a camcorder or two to video the stereo in action, with possible narration of the kit and cables. Then! I've got another program on my notebook that is designed for editing video. Called PowerDirector, I believe. It allows me to use up to 4 different videos and a sound track, and it automatically aligns all versions by listening to the sound track of each video version. Most ingenious. So, I can produce a video of my stereo with polished and edited sound, and jump between video angles at will, making a very professional looking product. Mind you it is many hundred dollars worth of software and gear, but I already own it for making videos of my band I play with. I'm sure even simpler versions that may be included on your notebook computer may be able to at least patch an audio track to the video.

Personally, I'm wanting to make such a video, or even take photos, but I keep putting it off until after I've cleaned house, and at least a year has slid past me so far.


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Audioflyer
07-07-2017, 07:45
I made these videos of my set-up last month manly to see how my room sounds, one of them was posted in the Philips GP390 thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0nFzIA9r0Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxCr9tion4c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a0rNhCB9S8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94VhG9zlDZQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWDN7KRoFCQ

They were recorded with a Panasonic HD camcorder, with the audio set to 24bit 48K.

After listening to them I thought they captured about 95% of what I'm hearing in the room.



Sharif.

Macca
07-07-2017, 07:57
You fool ... Marco tells me a 'skilled listener' can discern the essence no matter how opaque the medium .....

well they don't all sound the same even through my laptop speakers so clearly there is some differentiation. But I'm still of the opinion that the only way to hear someone's system is to sit in front of it.

struth
07-07-2017, 08:08
not all of us have to listen from pc through little laptop speaks though . i can send mine to the hifi ..in fact its easier to do so .. some as you say sound different from the usual are are"possibly" going to be best

Bigman80
07-07-2017, 09:34
Thanks guys. I have a little plan forming.

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RobbieGong
07-07-2017, 12:01
So what about your 'avatar'?

:lol:

struth
07-07-2017, 12:13
not all of us have to listen from pc through little laptop speaks though . i can send mine to the hifi ..in fact its easier to do so .. some as you say sound different from the usual are are"possibly" going to be best

Ok I take it back :D I did one on iphone and played it through system.. it sounded awesomeful:ner:

Pete The Cat
07-07-2017, 18:43
Although it may seem counterintuitive I like videos of hi-fi playing regardless of the fact that I'm listening on no-fi Creative PC speakers. I could watch the Kenrick Sound clips on YouTube all day, especially the ones that are quasi-documentary where they're delivering the gear and setting it up with great care :stalks:

Pete

struth
07-07-2017, 19:00
Oddly I just listened to it on the upstairs laptop through the creative speakers and it sounds quite decent. in real life it was stunning, but played back through hifi it was terrible. Guessing the iphone mic caused it

Arkless Electronics
07-07-2017, 19:09
I find it sad that anyone would want to make or watch a video of speakers and amps sitting there being the still life objects that they are... maybe the excitement comes when a TT starts to go round.. and round... and round... Plot spoiler alert! It keeps going round ... and round....

I'll get my coat... :sofa:

struth
07-07-2017, 19:16
I find it sad that anyone would want to make or watch a video of speakers and amps sitting there being the still life objects that they are... maybe the excitement comes when a TT starts to go round.. and round... and round... Plot spoiler alert! It keeps going round ... and round....

I'll get my coat... :sofa:

Your just angling to get on grumpy old men;)

walpurgis
07-07-2017, 19:20
Your just angling to get on grumpy old men;)

There's a thread for that. One of mine naturally :D: http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?25234-Grumpy-Old-Git-Thread!/page8&highlight=grumpy

Colinijohnson
07-07-2017, 20:38
I'd prefer tea & biscuits with live demo if it's not too far ;)


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Bigman80
07-07-2017, 20:51
I'd prefer tea & biscuits with live demo if it's not too far ;)


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Defo, Colin. I do like watching videos of people's setups though

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Colinijohnson
07-07-2017, 20:52
Mine would probably make you feel smug!


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Bigman80
07-07-2017, 21:26
Mine would probably make you feel smug!


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I doubt that !

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Minstrel SE
08-07-2017, 00:02
Oh I dont know. If its well recorded you get the idea of how good it must sound in the room. Ive heard some very good recordings of female vocals and Jazz on a good system.

Through headphones I can make slight allowances but it still sounds good so it must sound even better there.

I often like to see the equipment powered up and working...say a Nakamichi casstte deck or reel to reel for example

I do appreciate a good video although lets be honest that there are some terrible ones about. I appreciate the effort some people make to give me a feel for whats on offer with big vintage Tannoys or something special.

Mr Kipling
08-07-2017, 13:34
Yes. A Russian by the name of Alex. He's made numerous of classic gear and they set a standard for others to aim for. I haven't found any that match his. My favourite combination is the Sony SS-A5 La Voce speakers and Akai AM1T amp:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RobIh1Rcljc
http://youtube.com/watch?v=efU7LWwTNYs
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fV34nlVmwRM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_u9rYNck3mI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=q-OxThatXYA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XszPUQoypTw
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4bEuv7RYhLo

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Bigman80
08-07-2017, 18:54
Yes. A Russian by the name of Alex. He's made numerous of classic gear and they set a standard for others to aim for. I haven't found any that match his. My favourite combination is the Sony SS-A5 La Voce speakers and Akai AM1T amp:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RobIh1Rcljc
http://youtube.com/watch?v=efU7LWwTNYs
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fV34nlVmwRM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_u9rYNck3mI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=q-OxThatXYA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XszPUQoypTw
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4bEuv7RYhLo

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Those A5 speakers are my ultimate want. I'd love to hear some let alone own some!

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alphaGT
09-07-2017, 05:30
Those A5 speakers are my ultimate want. I'd love to hear some let alone own some!

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But we're hearing them now, through the video? ;)


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Bigman80
09-07-2017, 06:35
But we're hearing them now, through the video? ;)


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Lol

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