technics and lenco gl75

[smithie]

hi all
i have a Technics 1500 mk1 turntable,love it to bits but its a bit sick regarding holding true rpm...a common problem most would agree with this model:)
anyhow,im gonna strip it right down and go through it,replacing caps etc,also going to replace arm for later technics 1210 arm along with rewire.
i cant be without my turntable while this is all going on so im gonna look for something to tie me over while all this work goes on with the Technics.
looking to get a Golding lenco 75 to fill the void,im curious to hear a idler turntable and this seems a cheapish way to give it a go,please look at my wanted ad if you can help regarding getting one:)
anyway my question is this...
what can i expect of the lenco,how would it compare sound wise to my dd Technics 1500? also if i maxed them both out regarding mods available for each deck,which do people feel will give the best and ultimate sound quality when all is said and done:cool:

kind regards
smithie

[Wakefield Turntables]

Have a look at my lenco 75 project thread in the idler sub section. You'll get some idea as to how far you can take a Lenco. :eyebrows:

[smithie]

hi andrew
thanks for the heads up,ive started to read the thread....98pages:stalks::stalks:

[smithie]

i seem to be drawn to this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/goldring-lenco-gl-75-linn-basik-LV-X/142422973053?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

will probably bid on it latter,what do the lenco experts think...all new to me but im trying to read up...so much info out there:):stalks:
if people think its worth going for then my next question is what do you guys think is the max its worth?
any help much appricated:lol:

regards
smithie

[Wakefield Turntables]

That is a very nice deck with a lot of work done for you I'd buy that in a heartbeat you have the heat platter the five holed wheel a new plinth and tonearm. Go f or it .

[smithie]

on your advice...i have:)
thanks

[Wakefield Turntables]

on your advice...i have:)
thanks

Oh! Well, I really really hope that your Lenco journey is a happy one. In all honesty I've had more fun with this deck than my other two (a 1210 and a Garrard 301).

[tapid]

I was in the same position as you about 18 months ago Paul thinking about trying a lenco, bought a mint one on ebay and now have 2 !
As andy says this looks a fine example, arms been changed which will pleases many so whats not to like, good luck !Btw On one of mine
I have decca s.g on vintage mayware arm and it sounds fabulous. best wishes.

[smithie]

hi guys
thanks for the insights and spur on....i have to try one now just to say i have,plus your thread on the gl75 mods rexton is infectious...and im only on page 32:lol:
just out of interest ,what do you guys feel would be a sensible price on that turntable i linked to before i should throw in the towel if it goes abit silly ,like ebay can from time to time:lol:
there doesn't really seem to be any ball park starting prices for these turntables,seem to go from one extreme to another:scratch:

regards
paul

[tapid]

Surprised there s only one bid at the moment, this maybe get to £ 250 ? . I sold a mint 75, unserviced ( except new v blocks ) for £ 315 2 months ago, but it had box
and full packaging so probably sent price up a bit, but that was still toppy i.m.o. Good luck anyway, well worth bidding upto 300 to my way of thinking, but thats just me.

[Wakefield Turntables]

hi guys
thanks for the insights and spur on....i have to try one now just to say i have,plus your thread on the gl75 mods rexton is infectious...and im only on page 32:lol:
just out of interest ,what do you guys feel would be a sensible price on that turntable i linked to before i should throw in the towel if it goes abit silly ,like ebay can from time to time:lol:
there doesn't really seem to be any ball park starting prices for these turntables,seem to go from one extreme to another:scratch:

regards
paul

Thanks for the kind words Paul Re: my thread, lets do some maths about the cost of parts for that Lenco on eBay.

Linn Basik arm £100 - 150
The plinth £50 - 100
The Lenco £100 - 150
The tonearm cable £50
Cartridge £30-50

So even if we look at the lower end of what I've quoted your looking at £330, if you dont like the Lenco you can always split the deck up and sell as seperates and quite possibly make a little cash.

[smithie]

thanks for all the advice everyone:cool:
well i won it,£195 plus postage,so if it survives postage then i should be a gl75 owner by the weekend and also get to hear for myself what all the fuss is about:lol::lol:
well i might not find out what the fuss is about at the weekend as ive just realised it hasnt got a cartridge with it...doh,and bugger:lol::)
better see if theres anything very cheap and cheerful going on the ebay to get me up and running as ive now spent all my money...and the wifes:lol::lol::cool:
any advice of a good cartridge match for the linn lvx tonearm that comes with this turntable....dirty cheap and cheerful of course:lol:

all the best
paul

[Truckletheuncivil]

An at-95e would be my choice. Cheap and you can get different styling if you feel the need. I think Linn used to rebadge them as their own in the past. Enjoy your new toy!

[Wakefield Turntables]

Well done Paul. Welcome to club Lenco. I'd counsel a Shure M55e and then got rod it when you have some spare cash. TBH a lot of the Shure are excellent and still very well supported, you can always get a JICO stylus to improve them.

[brian2957]

Audio Technica AT95E if you're skint and the Shure M55E with Jico SAS when you're flush Paul .

Congratulations on winning a very nice Goldring Lenco GL75 .

I quite fancied this one myself .

[struth]

An at-95e would be my choice. Cheap and you can get different styling if you feel the need. I think Linn used to rebadge them as their own in the past. Enjoy your new toy!

yes, like the shure you can get a shibata for the AT95, and very good it is too. great upgrade when youve got yhe cash and in meantime the standard 95 will cost only £25 or so.

[tapid]

Nice one Paul. Yes ,mine sold for 315 in april with stock arm, don't see how this is £100 worse ? Got it for a relative snip me thinks !

[smithie]

thanks guys
for all the advice and suggestions to,ill stick some pics and thoughts up when i get it and a cartridge sorted etc,in the mean time ill do some more reading up....there seems to be plenty of reading material for these decks...along with the mods:lol::lol:

[Wakefield Turntables]

thanks guys
for all the advice and suggestions to,ill stick some pics and thoughts up when i get it and a cartridge sorted etc,in the mean time ill do some more reading up....there seems to be plenty of reading material for these decks...along with the mods:lol::lol:

I can help with the mods. This will probably save time and money!!

[smithie]

appreciate that andrew,and will certainly take you up on that offer when the time comes...in the mean time im keeping up on your progress through the forum.
this was brought so i could play my records while i took my time on sorting out my poorly technics 1500 and doing afew mods to it....dont want to be lured to the darkside straight off before sorting the techie out:lol::lol:

[Wakefield Turntables]

appreciate that andrew,and will certainly take you up on that offer when the time comes...in the mean time im keeping up on your progress through the forum.
this was brought so i could play my records while i took my time on sorting out my poorly technics 1500 and doing afew mods to it....dont want to be lured to the darkside straight off before sorting the techie out:lol::lol:

No worries mate, I've buggered about with Technics decks as well http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?9568-Me-and-the-1210-are-gunna-have-us-some-me-time I've not the pleasure of a 1500 so I can't help much, sorry!!!

[smithie]

lol
you dont do short threads do you andrew:lol:
you guys are alot more into extracting the most from your turntables then i am,as a reference i wouldnt dream of spending much more then £150ish for a cartridge...tops!!
so with that in mind i need to stay planted with costs of mods and the bits and bobs otherwise i would never reap the advantages with my cartridge price limit:D

its not that i dont believe in more expensive cartridges or anything like that,its just im clumsy and i probably drink alittle more then i should and know that it will be sooner rather then later that ill have a incident and trash the stylus...bad enough if its £150...more expensive and ill probably hang myself:lol:....well at least im honest:cool:
ive been in this game around 37 years,turned my back on it many a time through the years to,but always ended up coming back to it in one form or another as i love music so much,ive certainly heard and owned some decent stuff through those years,but the biggest kick i find these days is buying something thats not silly money,cheap even in the grand scheme of things and sounds impressive and plays way above its weight...old or new it doesnt matter,along with modded or un-modded.
at the end of the day the best upgrade ive ever heard and never fails every time i use it to make my system the best sounding in the whole wide world is afew big glasses of nice red wine:lol::cool:
now,my intrest has been perked up by constant mention and glowing views over the shure m55e....,i love the sound of the nag m110 and the denon dl110....do you guys think im gonna like a m55e??
if so,what do they come in at for a good specced one....just soooooo much to read up on:stalks:

[Jimbo]

The M55e is a perfect match with the Lenco and indeed was sold with this cartridge or the M44-7. If you can get an M55e with original NOS stylus this would be a great cartridge to run with the Lenco and I am sure you would not be disappointed with the sound. They go for around £70-£100 with original stylus but replacement n55 stylus is available from Jico as is the amazing Jico SAS (£200) stylus which turbo charges the M55e to another level. I use both options and they are both great although the JICO SAS is up there with some of the best modern MM stylus available on the market.

I have also used the At95e with the Lenco but I would say the M55e is much better!

[CageyH]

On the cheaper side, have a look at the LP Gear stylus for the AT95e. The VL is a bit cheaper than the SA and gives you most of what the SA does. It reviewed well in HiFi Choice.

[smithie]

hi guys
many thanks for all the pointers and tips....hopefully ill have a shure m55 sorted for it soon,as that seems to be the in thing at the moment...hell ill try anything once,twice if i like it:lol:
anyway just to let you know that i am now the proud owner of a lenco gl75....it arrived safely even if the seller did nothing i asked regarding packing and stripping it down for safe posting:mental:
so far....loving it!!!

[narabdela]

On the cheaper side, have a look at the LP Gear stylus for the AT95e. The VL is a bit cheaper than the SA and gives you most of what the SA does. It reviewed well in HiFi Choice.

No doubt it is, but what's the point of trying to polish a turd? The M55E is a far better cartridge and a perfect match for the arm. Well worth the extra spend.

[smithie]

No doubt it is, but what's the point of trying to polish a turd? The M55E is a far better cartridge and a perfect match for the arm. Well worth the extra spend.

lolol
i guess we all have our views and "tastes" regarding various carts and stylus:),ive only ever heard around 6 total,and none of them exceeding £150,so ill always appreciate a heads up on any sleepers or combos that offer a big chunk of quality,old or new.
its all you guys with the knowledge and experience and share the results that is a life line for the likes of me and hopefully steer me in a direction to get the ultimate sound quality for my pounds:)
regarding the at95e...cash flow was tight so i asked in this thread for a cheap cart/stylus to get me up and running,so it was certainly a valid option to include it here,having used one in the past i can certainly add its a no brainer for sound vrs price...i have no experience what so ever regarding replacement stylus,so cant comment if the extra price/tweak takes it to a whole new level,so ill leave that at that,but i always enjoy reading peoples finding and reviews on such things:cool:
also bare in mind that my gl75 doesnt come with the standard arm,it has a ninn lvx...good or bad,thats what im working with...will the shure still be ok to use with that arm:scratch:
once again,thanks for all the help,input ,tips and advice....ive really fell in love with the deck...would really like to try and get the most out of it,so i may be willing to break afew of my budget limits i impose on myself in that quest when the time comes:lol:

regards
paul

[Wakefield Turntables]

Paul,

the M55E is a giant killer. I would save some money and go for the JICO neoSAS stylus and then say goodbye to faffing around with other carts or stylii. I've several MC carts costing several thousand quid and I can honestly hand on heart say that in some areas there is no difference in performance. The m55e tracks like shit on stick, is a fantastic all round performer with all genres of music, it's not a one trick pony. The linnbasic arm that you have mounted on the deck is perfect for the m55e. I understand you want to get the best out of the deck for as little money as possible. I think the Shure+JICO combo will enable you to do that.

Andy

[smithie]

hi andy
much appreciate your thoughts and insight,have been reading up on everything you tried and played with regarding the lenco....anymore updates i may have missed?:lol:
i like the wooden body idea to,so i will certainly take the shure to the max as you have done when funds allow,be silly not to if its so good,and once again thanks everyone for the advice and tips....feel free to keep them coming:D
regards
paul

[Wakefield Turntables]

hi andy
much appreciate your thoughts and insight,have been reading up on everything you tried and played with regarding the lenco....anymore updates i may have missed?:lol:
i like the wooden body idea to,so i will certainly take the shure to the max as you have done when funds allow,be silly not to if its so good,and once again thanks everyone for the advice and tips....feel free to keep them coming:D
regards
paul

The wooden body costs about £45 delievered from Germany. I'm not sure how much of an affect it's had on my Shure cart as I did a few mods at the same time. So you might want to hold off from spending the money. Did you know that there is an in depth thread about this cart on the Forum? Probably every question, tweak and user experience has been documented in it.

[smithie]

forgot to put some pics up of the ebay special ...so without further ado

[smithie]

heres some more of the guts.
whoever originally built and modded this did a real great job,i guy who was selling it didn't seem to have so much passion towards it....still all being said,it did arrive safely....more by luck i suspect:)
i really like it,it has a slight rumble,and the linn arm lift seems to not go up far enough,and can lose height at times.
so once i drag myself away from just playing it i will have to strip it down and check it over,oil and grease....and maybe mod a little more:D

regards
smithie

[brian2957]

heres some more of the guts.
whoever originally built and modded this did a real great job,i guy who was selling it didn't seem to have so much passion towards it....still all being said,it did arrive safely....more by luck i suspect:)
i really like it,it has a slight rumble,and the linn arm lift seems to not go up far enough,and can lose height at times.
so once i drag myself away from just playing it i will have to strip it down and check it over,oil and grease....and maybe mod a little more:D

regards
smithie

The bearing is easy enough to strip and relube Paul so I would tackle that first . Then have a look at the idler wheel , it can cause rumble too .

If you want to tackle the motor there's a few instruction videos on youtube . I never touched the motor as mine was quiet .

Make sure that the motor isn't touching anything , including the plinth , as this can cause a really annoying vibration .

Looks like a very nice example of a GL75 :)

[Firebottle]

Beautiful example Paul, not sure about the table cloth though :eyebrows:

Just listening to some fabulous Ella Fitzgerald on HMV on my Lenco :)

[Wakefield Turntables]

You might want to check the alignment of the motor suspension springs as it's these little buggers which usually cause a lot of grief.

The motor is a doddle to service, with a little practice it can be stripped, cleaned, serviced and re-assembled in ~30 minutes.

The bearing take about 15-20 minutes to service and TBH once you've checked the motor suspension springs, serviced the motor and bearing you shouldn't need to anything more. The idler wheel needs to be checked to make sure it's aligned and not bent, but again that's pi$$ easy to do.

Nice deck by the way.

[smithie]

hi guys
thanks for the advice and tips...regarding the table cloth,thats laid down whenever im fiddling...it chills me as i work:lol::lol:
well for a quicky i took the platter off,the whole spindle came with it,along with the ball bearing....can detect a flat spot on the ball bearing which isnt going to help.....along with everything being bone dry:)
is the general consensus lith grease for the bearing?
all i had at hand,and im still trying to work out why i had that at hand:Dwas some ep90 gear oil...my theory being anything is better then nothing at this stage....ill have alittle listern later:cool:
as im gonna be getting my hands dirty with this deck(the plan was to just play this one while i work on the technics and get that sorted first:lol:) i think i need to start getting up a tool kit of supplys and bits and pieces for the day i go right through it,so any lists of things i need by those in the know would be handy....but i do realise its well covered in various threads....im just being lazy and trying to save time by not going all through them again:stalks:
the platter buffed up really well,more so as i didnt really put any effort into it.....oooh shiney:lol:

regards
smithie

[Wakefield Turntables]

hi guys
thanks for the advice and tips...regarding the table cloth,thats laid down whenever im fiddling...it chills me as i work:lol::lol:
well for a quicky i took the platter off,the whole spindle came with it,along with the ball bearing....can detect a flat spot on the ball bearing which isnt going to help.....along with everything being bone dry:)
is the general consensus lith grease for the bearing?
all i had at hand,and im still trying to work out why i had that at hand:Dwas some ep90 gear oil...my theory being anything is better then nothing at this stage....ill have alittle listern later:cool:
as im gonna be getting my hands dirty with this deck(the plan was to just play this one while i work on the technics and get that sorted first:lol:) i think i need to start getting up a tool kit of supplys and bits and pieces for the day i go right through it,so any lists of things i need by those in the know would be handy....but i do realise its well covered in various threads....im just being lazy and trying to save time by not going all through them again:stalks:
the platter buffed up really well,more so as i didnt really put any effort into it.....oooh shiney:lol:

regards
smithie

I'm not sure lithium grease is the way to go, I'm sure there's something in the grease which affects the thrust plate. Simple 3-in-1 oil, or sewing machine oil is perfect. The bearing can be changed (now you've opened up a can of worms with respects which to use). :eek:

[smithie]

I'm not sure lithium grease is the way to go, I'm sure there's something in the grease which affects the thrust plate. Simple 3-in-1 oil, or sewing machine oil is perfect. The bearing can be changed (now you've opened up a can of worms with respects which to use). :eek:

hi andrew
thanks for the heads up regarding the oil,i will certainly look into it when i get my head on.
do you feel a different bearing is a investment and improvement?of course the one you brought can no longer be brought,i was after the reinforcement coller that he made,still plenty others out there, they all look shiney and nicely made.
was thinking of going the double platter route....mainly to help sort my vta adjustment problem out....but i may have a quick fix for that,but i do like this,https://lencohell.wordpress.com/component/ but like all these things,you never know if there really a improvement till you have them,listened and played....thank god i have limited funds at the moment,that limits my hastiness and reckless gun oh approach.

[smithie]

heres a quick question...
i cant get the vta level because the linn arm fitted cant go down low enough to match up to the platter,i cant build up the platter enough with mats etc as i then run out of spindle to secure the record.....temp solution im thinking is to make a thick card or something spacer to fit between the arm headshell and cartridge,i realise i have to keep a eye on the weight of said spacer but do you experts reckon that will work?any problems with that idea? i have about 2-3mm thread length on the cartridge nuts and bolts so i should be able to make a spacer that size.

regards
smithie

[walpurgis]

An easy adaptation is to use a Rega glass platter on top of the existing Lenco one. There's a centre spindle extension available to do this. It works very well.

[walpurgis]

See here:

Extensions:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LENCO-GL75-GL78-Xad-Tall-Spindle-Extender-for-stacked-platters-using-Rega-parts-/400840163872?hash=item5d53ef8220:g:jXYAAOSwWKtUr7e n

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Goldring-Lenco-GL75-and-others-Spindle-Extender-ideal-for-stacked-platters-/401103364792?hash=item5d639fa2b8:g:hUIAAOxywh1S~Ri X

Platter:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rega-Glass-Platter-from-Planar-3-12mm-/311912008361?hash=item489f678aa9:g:ZgIAAOSwi1tZYAt 3


The glass platter looks really good once fitted. Gives a 12mm lift and more mass.

[smithie]

hi geoff
many thanks for the links and insight.
i cant believe how much choice,mods and approaches there are for this turntable...the choices are bewildering for sure:cool::scratch:
now let me open up afew can of worms...
ive read in plenty of places that the original lenco tone arm is really quite good/or total pants:lol:...opinions...gotta love them:D
my question is this to the peeps that have played and experimented with said arm and others....out of the original arm and the linn arm i have (linn lvx) what will give me the best sound quality and bang for the buck out of the two once tweaked and modded etc?
i did also think about a rega arm as most seem to think that would be a big step up and can still be brought cheapish,but im not sure if that can be mounted on the standard lenco base with suitable modification or it needs to go further out on a wider plinth(i love the plinth i have,so whatever route i go must work within the confines of the original lenco top plate...if that makes sense:))
these questions are just thoughts for future direction,ideas and mods...pre planning if you will,or is that just dreaming:lol::lol:

[Firebottle]

Nothing wrong with dreaming ;)

I have the original arm on my Lenco and am very happy with it. I was talking to Dom (famed for his cartridges) from North West Audio about the Lenco arm, he recons it is a good one, providing you change the original bearing blocks, as they will almost certainly be past their best now.

I have added a headshell weight cut from lead sheet and an additional counterweight to add mass, and now run a low compliance cart with no problem.

Cheers,
Alan

[Wakefield Turntables]

hi andrew
thanks for the heads up regarding the oil,i will certainly look into it when i get my head on.
do you feel a different bearing is a investment and improvement?of course the one you brought can no longer be brought,i was after the reinforcement coller that he made,still plenty others out there, they all look shiney and nicely made.
was thinking of going the double platter route....mainly to help sort my vta adjustment problem out....but i may have a quick fix for that,but i do like this,https://lencohell.wordpress.com/component/ but like all these things,you never know if there really a improvement till you have them,listened and played....thank god i have limited funds at the moment,that limits my hastiness and reckless gun oh approach.

The original bearing is a fantastic piece of kit and TBH is more than capable. I bought a bearing from Jolyon on LH purely because of the excellent price, £135, it certainly beats paying £750+ for a garrard bearing :rolleyes:. There is a new bearing being produced by a chap in Malaysia for £130 (i think) which is getting good feedback. You can't buy the Jolyone bearing anymore so if you fancy an experiment I would first tinker with the original bearing with different types of oil and ball bearings, thrust plates and then if that dosen't quench your thirst for modding, you can try an after market jobbie.


heres a quick question...
i cant get the vta level because the linn arm fitted cant go down low enough to match up to the platter,i cant build up the platter enough with mats etc as i then run out of spindle to secure the record.....temp solution im thinking is to make a thick card or something spacer to fit between the arm headshell and cartridge,i realise i have to keep a eye on the weight of said spacer but do you experts reckon that will work?any problems with that idea? i have about 2-3mm thread length on the cartridge nuts and bolts so i should be able to make a spacer that size.

regards
smithie

Why not try adding some old records under your platter mat, some people swear that the best platter mat is a 12" single. ;) You could always buy some from your local charity shop to experiment. This will certainly improve your VTA and may give you a positive sonic gain!



hi geoff
many thanks for the links and insight.
i cant believe how much choice,mods and approaches there are for this turntable...the choices are bewildering for sure:cool::scratch:
now let me open up afew can of worms...
ive read in plenty of places that the original lenco tone arm is really quite good/or total pants:lol:...opinions...gotta love them:D
my question is this to the peeps that have played and experimented with said arm and others....out of the original arm and the linn arm i have (linn lvx) what will give me the best sound quality and bang for the buck out of the two once tweaked and modded etc?
i did also think about a rega arm as most seem to think that would be a big step up and can still be brought cheapish,but im not sure if that can be mounted on the standard lenco base with suitable modification or it needs to go further out on a wider plinth(i love the plinth i have,so whatever route i go must work within the confines of the original lenco top plate...if that makes sense:))
these questions are just thoughts for future direction,ideas and mods...pre planning if you will,or is that just dreaming:lol::lol:

Stick with your Linn tonearm, it's not best but you've not fully explored its capabilities. Why not play around with the VTA and platter mats and see if these help?


Nothing wrong with dreaming ;)

I have the original arm on my Lenco and am very happy with it. I was talking to Dom (famed for his cartridges) from North West Audio about the Lenco arm, he recons it is a good one, providing you change the original bearing blocks, as they will almost certainly be past their best now.

I have added a headshell weight cut from lead sheet and an additional counterweight to add mass, and now run a low compliance cart with no problem.

Cheers,
Alan

The original arm is ok but I wouldn't have one on my Lenco.

[Idlewithnodrive]

I have the original arm on my Lenco and love it. Just re-wired and new V-Blocks and it sounds better than either the Regas or Linns that I have used on previous Lencos.

Keeps the deck original and looks better too.

[smithie]

hi
thanks everyone for your input and thoughts.
well im still happy and really impressed with the lenco,so much so that its really getting me back into vinyl big time,so much so that i want this to be the best sounding of my source choices within my system:D...and ive always been a digital kinda guy:scratch:
ive been busy of late but i have managed to find the time to strip down the bearing,clean,replace ball bearing and pressure pad and re-oil....that tinkering certainly paid dividends regarding uplifting sound quality,but as mentioned in a previous post the ball bearing that came with it had a flat spot,also the grub screw type thing on the side of the bearing that locks in the spindle wasnt screwed in... rumble has now gone,or at a level that isn't noticeable or a worry to me:)
can i also say a big thank you to "brian 2957"...aka brian for selling me a shure m55e and jico stylus along with some parts to service my bearing and afew other bits....total pleasure to deal with and chat to....many thanks once again brian.
regarding tonearm,i think the best thing for me to do is to source all the bits to make up the original lenco arm and set up and have a listen and compare to the linn arm i have.
trouble is my turntable isnt standard so i i cant just put the original arm back in to try...so ive managed to locate a cheap top plate....i can see me building another one as and when cheap parts come up and can be found,if im lucky with that idea/plan then ill probably build it to standard spec with its original arm....at least it would give me a chance to hear the two arms and decide what i like,and if i find a cheap rega rb250,or jelco arm then i could be in for a long haul:D
at present im looking over ebay for cheap decent carts to buy and listen to, after listening to the shure im coming to the conclusion that there could be something in these old timer carts:D:lol:...trouble is it looks like everyone else has come to the same conclusion,as alot dont seem cheap enough for a punt or try...not that i would know what was a decent cart and a bargain to be had:lol:...the joys of being a noob again after so long digital:scratch::cool:
of course you can all feel free to send me a private message regarding some sleepers worth trying and still going for peanuts because of there undiscovered status:please:...im good at keeping secerts:D:D
ive started already....and come unstuck straight away...told you i was a noob,or is that nob?:lol:...still it was cheap:cool:...any help and love with this...
http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?52704-shure-m75-stylus-help&p=881994#post881994

regards
smithie

[smithie]

hi everyone
i have a question to any wood experts out there...can anyone tell me what wood the plinth to my turntable is made out of?
im building a phono project to go with this turntable and would like to build a cabinet to match along the same lines..i know nothing about wood,it seems to match up to a oak of some sort,but then i see oak in other pictures and it dont look anything like it...being colourblind dont help either:lol:....anyone?

[walpurgis]

Yes Anto. I think it is Oak (or Oak Veneer). Oak grain patterns can vary.

[smithie]

thanks geoff
i really like my turntables look,hence my quest to know exactly what wood it is (no veneer here:)) as a mini me phonostage sitting next to it to me would look even better.
im not letting the fact that i know nothing regarding wood or wood work skills deter me:lol:
thanks for the help.

regards
paul

[walpurgis]

Build your phono stage box from MDF and veneer it Anto. Much easier and cheaper than working from solid Oak.

Plenty of decent veneer on ebay. That's where I get mine from.

[smithie]

hi geoff
im trying to get away from mdf,and veneering is another string i dont have on my bow:D
i was aiming to make a smaller little box like my turntable has,cant seem to find "anto" but this looks like it might match ...alittle:D

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Solid-Oak-Timber-20mm-choice-of-lengths-and-widths/261951303675?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=560768301852&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

didnt think the price was to bad considering it includes delevry.
i take it ill need a mitre saw gadget to cut the angles to form the box/enclosure....anyone know if i go with this stuff and build it as im aiming if it will destort/warp? the turntable seems ok,so im guessing not....but im guessing nevertheless:D
see,i told you i know bugger all about wood....i better have a read up i guess.